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Since Another Eden is full of references and straight out straight copies from Chrono Trigger, I thought I'd post a comparison of the games world maps here, incase anyone is interested. Huge huge spoilers up ahead, so stop now if you havent gotten into Another Eden yet. The maps I pulled out of the japanese site.

Present

Present is where both games start and the setting is post-medieval/renaissance type. Another Eden (300AD) is not so high-tech as Chrono Trigger (1000AD) (for example Lucca Ashtear in Another Eden is not tinkering with tech).

Chrono Trigger:


Another Eden:


The maps are definately different, but there are some similarities:
-The starting town is at about the same location
-Some mountain ranges match up
-The island, where you do a similar thing in both games lines up ;)
-The place where beasts live is at a similar location

Future:

The Future (1100AD) in Another Eden is partly floating, because the Earth is poisoned. Maybe a reference/another timeline to the domed 1999AD? I'm gonna compare with the CT's 1999AD fanmade map, since I think that is maybe more closer to the Future in AE.

Chrono Trigger:


Another Eden:


The ground in AE is foggy and partly hidden, so its hard to see. It seems there are 3 continents on the ground, and one larger one  and few smaller floating. Some notes:

-The large floating one could be the Porre continent, and the ones on the ground could be the other large ones
-The upper right floating island is again the place where you do the thing ;)
-The floating island on the lower right is called Laula Dome, which underlines the dome thing from Chrono Trigger
-Kingdom of Zeal reference, anyone?

Antiquity:

The setting of antiquity in AE is kind of a mix of prehistory and the Kingdom of Zeal royalty, without any tech stuff.




The Antiquity (20,000BC) in AE seems to have a one-continent type thing going on, just like in prehistory of CT. The vicinity of the Volcano is more prehistory-like, whereas the kingdom in the west is more CT-antiquity. This is maybe the map with most similarity. Just move the volcano to the upper right in the big continent and let the river flow into the middle and you could have nearly the same map. Frog from AE is from this time period.

-That island in the corner is "still" there ;)

Hopefully there is something interesting here to look at and speculate about. If you havent yet gotten into it (and you looked at this and partly spoiled yourself), I urge you to give AE a try! There are just so many similar things, that there might even be a canon connection lurking somewhere!  :o

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Cracking out who exactly is Zoah?
« on: March 24, 2019, 02:17:48 pm »
Hi, I've been think a lot about who Zoah is/was supposed to be. Here I'll try to compile some info about him, and try to connect the dots.

As a starter, here is the infamous quote about Zoah from the developers:

"We might not be able to talk about the official game now, but there's a secret under Zoah's iron mask. It's said that his face was once injured in war and now he hides the wound with an iron mask, but in reality he's wearing it so as not to reveal his identity. Zoah's role was to be that of the prince of a certain country, secretly watching over the protagonists' doings from the beginning. If you had chosen the forest route (Slash Route) when it came time to infiltrate the Viper Room, you ought to have been able to see an event shedding light on Zoah's true identity."



And here is his character sheet info:
Full Name: Zoah
Occupation: One of the 4 Devas
Origin: El Nido
Age: 28
Species: Human
Home Time: 1020 A.D.
Home Area: Viper Manor
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 203 lbs.
Build: Mammoth
Hand: Right-Handed
Weapon Type: Glove
Innate Element: Yellow

Some speculations about him is here: https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Zoah_(Planned_Identity_of).html, which includes information about connection to Guardia, and pondering whether Magus and Crono could be candidates of who he is.

If we assume that he has not done any time travelling, he would have been born in 992 AD. This means he'd be 8 years old during Chrono Trigger, and 13 years old when Porre invaded Guardia. Since he is possibly connected to Guardia and being a prince of some sort, that would mean he would be a brother or cousin of Marle somehow? Queen Aliza's death is approximated to be around 988 AD, but it could be a possibility that Queen Aliza died during childbirth? This would mean that he lived his childhood somewhere else, or was just not shown during Trigger. He would've come back to Guardia during the war in 1005 AD, and would've fought in the war (as a 13-year old) and got injured. Possibly he could've been the last defender using Masamune. This whole ordeal could have traumatized him, leading to his berserker angry loud voice, and making him use his fists instead of a weapon like a sword, since he failed with Masamune.

Another choice would be that he was an illegimate son of King Guardia XXXIII. He would've been sent to live in El Nido (or his mother being from there) because of the illegimitacy. Maybe he heard that his father is from Guardia (or even that he is the king!), and went to protect Guardia and gotten injured. From there on he'd decided that "AS FOR ME, I CHOOSE TO LIVE IN BATTLE AND ONE DAY TO DIE IN BATTLE.".

Another idea could be that he has somehow time travelled from 600 AD, got injured in the war there and got sent to the 1000 AD era somehow. His age leads me to think, that maybe he is somehow Cyrus? Maybe the statement that "Zoah's role was to be that of the prince of a certain country" means that maybe in some timeline the King at 600AD would've died and the Queen would have remarried with Cyrus, making him a prince somehow (similar to how the husband of Queen Elizabeth is a prince)? Cyrus got injured, got sent through time to El Nido sometime before 1020AD, and decided that he'd use his fists since he failed as a swordsman.

The idea that Zoah is Crono would work, if Crono was indeed the "last defender" in 1005AD when he was 23, got sent through time to 1015AD, where he decided to take the identity of Zoah and be one of the 4 Devas, while also similarly being traumatized and deciding he'd use his fists instead of a sword because of his failure (and also leading to pump iron and using growth hormones). Yellow innate could match Crono because of his lightning attacks. A similar scenario could work with Frog (=Glenn version) somehow (he was a frog prince in some timeline in the endings!).

Any other leads? Does anyone have skills to look at the Japanese original texts if there is some translation differences there or other clues?

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