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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Theory on how Lavos was put into DBT

« on: December 04, 2005, 01:15:03 pm »

It doesn't look like a bug. It's perfectly ok, it fades in simultaneously with the other character's shadows. If it was a bug, it wouldn't be as clear as that, it'd have like mix-matched colored shapes around the Bit.

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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Theory on how Lavos was put into DBT

« on: December 03, 2005, 09:38:13 pm »

I've always had the impression that that's where they went. It seemed different than his Pocket Dimension.

Nonetheless, what is the point of this existing bit? Doesn't it seem strange that it would appear again after Lavos has been wiped out?

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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Theory on how Lavos was put into DBT

« on: December 03, 2005, 07:14:20 pm »

Ok, I don't think anyone's said this before, but I thought it was plainly obivous. Lavos transports Crono and Co. to the DBT to fight. At the end of it Lavos vanishes and we hear him scream. Suddenly there's a white light, and we can see the sillohettes of Crono & Co. but we can also see the sillohette of the Right Bit of Lavos.

Perhaps this surviving bit got stuck in the DBT and merged with Schala?

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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Yet Another Theory on the Rise of Porre

« on: December 03, 2005, 07:10:25 pm »

Hmm, well since you insisted that changes in time were "instant" in another topic, then when Crono and Co get back to 1000AD, the Time Crash should have happened. Hence, Kid is created and everything leads off from there.

That would be true if Crono stayed in the future until 2400 and then time traveled backwards.  However, they went back home from 1999ad, well before the time crash.  Time had no progressed to 2400 yet.

I thought they went back home from Lavos' Pocket Dimension?

And I thought that the pocket dimension collapsed upon Lavos' death Oo.

Didn't the Lavos Core transport them to the DBT to battle? So wouldn't they have transported from there?

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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Yet Another Theory on the Rise of Porre

« on: December 02, 2005, 09:52:14 pm »

How about when Masa and Mune challenge Crono and Co. so they can obtain the broken Masamune?

Masa and Mune are the sword's sprites, its guardians, or protectors, so to speak.  They test those who want to use it.  They don't influence those who use it.

It's probably always been corrupted since it had absorbed a vast amount of Lavos' energy. If you look at Masa and Mune's dialogue from Zeal and their dialogue from Denadoro, their attitude seems to be a bit harsher at Denadoro , as they plainly state that humanity is ignorant. Whereas in Zeal they seem to be wiser and live peacefully with humans like Melchior.

And arguement "its probably something".  Great.  Masa and Mune don't influence Frog to do anything.  It never influenced Cyrus to do anything.  It only did so when it was evil and red.

There was probably no one who controlled the sword till Cyrus. And oo looky here, Cyrus died having it, like a curse for controling the Masamune (plus Cyrus is a pansy). Frog's need to restore his honor may have powered up Masa and Mune and made them atleast able to handle the sword. The sword itself seems to work off peoples emotions. But in CC, it works off only the negetive and jealous feelings. In a sence, it does work off your soul. Maybe if Frog's desire had been revenge, then it would have turned into that evil thing too.

1.) Don't get me started on Cyrus.  Make another thread for that
2.) This is how it works when the Sword is good:  Wielder controls the sword.  This is how it works when the sword is bad:  Sword controls its wielder.

Frog: The Masamune?!
Masa: Heh heh.
Mune: That's it!  That was special!
Masa: Quite.  I guess it means that a Hero's power comes from within.
Mune: Mucha metaphysical, man.
Masa: Like, MIND over matter, Mune!
Frog: My... mind?
Mune: Now for a yummy, full-on test!
Masa: It's thrasin' time!
Frog: 'Tis flowing with strength and vigor.  Ahh!  'Tis the true identity of
the Masamune!!  Cyrus, I promise to fulfill your wishes!  'Tis a sad
farewell!  Onward, all!

Its clear here the the weilder exersizes control of the Masamune when its good.  However, when evil, its visa versa.  It wasn't the Masamune's fault that Cyrus died.  It was that he was fighting Magus.  So you are right in the fact that it works off peoples emotions, but its the whielder controlling the sword in good-form, rather than the opposite when its evil.

They may be protecting it, but they're still acting of their own will.

Edit: Sorry, you must have misunderstood, the thing about them challenging Crono was directed at the comment of them not being able to act on their own will.

I never said it was evil, just that Lavos' energy had changed their attitude.

And I'd appreciate a reply without cheek. I havn't done anything to offend.

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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Yet Another Theory on the Rise of Porre

« on: December 02, 2005, 06:27:59 pm »

1) The Masamune has been shown to have a will of it's own.

When its evil.  I don't remmber any instances of that when its good.

2) Garai looks big because he wears big armour. Cyrus looks the same.

Its not just a matter of looking big, its a matter of looking like a GIANT GHOST.

3) The blade was probably always corrupt.

Proof?

4) Fate can still exist in a world where time travel happens. Put it simply, someone wanted them to time travel, and because Fate knows everything, in it's eyes, they were destined to do it the second time around.

Eh?  FATE comes to exist near the end of Keystone 1 timeline.  Thats the one after Lavos is defeated, and after Crono does his changes to history, and after the party returns to their time.  Technially, it only has to be after Lavos is defeated.  FATE was made in the saved timeline.  FATE in the "past" (and El Nido) didn't come about until after the timecrash, which starts Keystone 2, I believe.

How about when Masa and Mune challenge Crono and Co. so they can obtain the broken Masamune?

It's probably always been corrupted since it had absorbed a vast amount of Lavos' energy. If you look at Masa and Mune's dialogue from Zeal and their dialogue from Denadoro, their attitude seems to be a bit harsher at Denadoro , as they plainly state that humanity is ignorant. Whereas in Zeal they seem to be wiser and live peacefully with humans like Melchior.

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Magic, Elements, and Technology / Creation of the Masamune

« on: December 02, 2005, 05:43:49 pm »

Hmm I think it would stay the MM Masamune because of TTI, which kinda makes me wonder. When the Masamune is transformed who recovers it and puts it in Denarado MTs.?

I just had a thought, maybe the monsters stole it while everything was crumbling down. And it probably was held as a powerful weapon they could use against the humans.

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Kajar Laboratories / CT Warcraft III

« on: December 02, 2005, 08:18:48 am »

That looks pretty cool. Wish I still had the game.  

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Magic, Elements, and Technology / Creation of the Masamune

« on: December 01, 2005, 10:04:09 pm »

Melchior knew what would become of all of it. Even without the CT crew, he still made the knife to stop the Mammon Machine.

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Kajar Laboratories / CT Warcraft III

« on: December 01, 2005, 08:08:04 pm »

Oh cool. I've seen those before, hope to see the screens soon.   They sound cool. Can you have like, Zeal and Dalton as heroes?

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Kajar Laboratories / CT Warcraft III

« on: December 01, 2005, 06:02:17 pm »

Any screens? Sadly I don't have WarcraftIII anymore.  

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Janus and the Gurus fate....

« on: November 30, 2005, 06:50:31 pm »

Where DID Janus go? I don't remember seeing him in Algetty, but he must have been somewhere there.

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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Lavos: The Point Of Multiple Forms

« on: November 30, 2005, 08:00:48 am »

Or a more simple analysis...

Shell=Body
Second Form=Organs
Core=Brain

I don't see you coming up with anything.

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General Discussion / Chrono Cross Opening

« on: November 29, 2005, 05:28:45 pm »

It's not really illegal...

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Janus and the Gurus fate....

« on: November 29, 2005, 07:23:10 am »

Zeal wasn't on Lavos' back in the memory...She was only standing in front of him. There's really no way to tell if she was evil, since she has no dialogue or actions in that whole scene.