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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Ozzie's Pants
« on: July 29, 2005, 12:13:49 pm »
well doesnt slash just loose his sword? slasher 2? but infact if ayla steals slashs sword what is he using for the remainder of the fight 
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / 2 Time Traveling Theories
« on: July 29, 2005, 11:40:12 am »
most of the articles people have wrote here seem to be plot holes at first, its just peoples imagination and knowledge that seem to create intriguing stories as to how CT actaully happened. have you ever wondered if the makers thought at all about half the stuff you have? it would be intriguing to find out what the makers think about all your thoughts, and see how close you come to the truth.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Insanely easy way to defeat Son of Sun
« on: July 29, 2005, 11:18:09 am »
i beat him easy without any red or ruby equip, just the top aoen equip or whatever i had at the time, cant really remember, it was pretty easy really.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Ozzie's Pants
« on: July 29, 2005, 11:15:17 am »
hold on a sec, are u saying when ayla charms ozzie and flea to get these items, theyre taking off their underwear? infront of the crono crew, maybe its just me but isnt this a little wrong? 
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / What did Gaspar mean by this?
« on: July 29, 2005, 10:46:52 am »
yeh even if your high level if your armour is weak you slaughtered by lavos, try attacking lavos with one of your team in good armour and one in low stuff, unless your incredibly high lvl the one with low armour will die very easily.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / just a thought
« on: July 29, 2005, 06:34:54 am »
forgive me if someone else has already put forward the notion i am about to, or if you have disproved it already, ive read through most of the articles but not much on this forum. having no experience of chrono cross or radical dreamers this is purely based on CT
there a few points i have, some more important than others :
1) marle's pendant -
why does it react to lucca's machine? presumable because the entity made it, but any further interpretations on this are welcome.
where did she get it from? it has been passed down from generation and looks like schala's so you presume they are one and the same, so marle is schala's decendant? if any can confirm these facts please do, for this creates the same paradox as the queene leene event at the start of the game, during the ocean palace disaster where schala disapears (to be fused with lavos) - which presumably does not happen unless crono interferes - surely this would mean schala has no children, marle does not exist, yet she never disapears. so can someone please clear this up for me, thanks in advance.
2) the wormholes idea of time -
you mentioned before how the wormholes and epoch never take you to the exact time they did the first time you use them, after going through the portal to 600ad, the next time you come all the events that took place while you were there are still existent. i didnt really understand what you were talking about when you cleared it up, but this is my theory - since the ocean palace disaster when janus and the sages were ported to diferent era's of time, this would appear to be when the portals where created, i know you say the entity did this and that could also be used in this theory just in a diferent way but bear with me, the portals where the people are taken are in the same place as where the portals you go through take you, so my idea is that during the ocean palace disaster lavos may have gone out of control and made these time gates (we know lavos has some form of control over time). now we take janus's case, when he goes through the gate he is a child, when crono and co go through the gate he is an adult, so universal time has passed since the ocean palace disaster. we have no idea how much universal time passed so we cannot prove that this time represents anything, my guess is that universal time is simaliar to the time in the lavos's pocket dimension, which goes with the theory the portals where opened by lavos, so therefore the time you arrive at when you go through a portal or use epoch is the designated time of the portal + universal time.
if you are sticking with the theory the time gates were created by the entity, then you could instead call these era's in time the time gates link to, memories of the entity, the era's of time the entity remembers most well and so these era's are the most powerful era's, when the ocean palace disaster occurs, i remain with my idea lavos went slightly out of control or something along these lines he used whatever powers of time he has and sent the people to these era's as they are the easiest places for this to occur, or he just opened a gate, the guru's and janus got sent through, and they were pulled to the times they were as if these times are magnets pulling matter out of the dimension you get sent to when you go through a gate (you must all now the eery visual effects when you jump through a gate, lets call that a dimension). okay tell me what you think about that.
3) time in the end of time -
the end of time i believe to be like lavos's pocket dimension, a dimension out of the universe if you will for i dont really know how to explain it, in fact lets say these are the same dimension, just diferent areas of it, now this is farfechted but the dimensions in which crono and co, serge, and all these dimensions you find out about in CC are inside this larger dimension of which lavos and the EoT inhabit, now lets say each dimension has its own "time", the larger dimensions "time" would be my idea of "universal time" that affects all other dimensions, while the time inside the dimensions (ill take the one from CT as an example) is the time like that of which crono travels, the reason time steadily goes on even when he is time traveling is because of the larger dimensions universal time.
4) exploring this theory -
now this probably contradicts a lot of CT and CC, so needs further exploration. lavos is part of the larger dimension, i will call this dimension X from now on, and crono's dimension Y, so keep up. getting more farfetched, lavos and the EoT probably among other things just exist in dimension X, going through time (we know for sure that EoT does sucumb to time by what belthesar says, he mentions how many poeple have been stumbling into the end of time recently - this in itself could provide many questions if would delve deep enough, but it would be more or less pointless as none of it could be proven in the slightest - now if time did not pass in the EoT everyone who ever went there would be there at the exact same time, and they are not). Knowing how belthesar knows everything that happens in crono's world, we would say that time in the other dimensions is much like a video for beings outside of that dimension to watch, rewind, and fastforward. lavos would be able to go from dimension X to any dimension, he chooses Y, he burrows deep into the core of a planet in Y and creates a pocket dimension - this would be like eating away part of dimension Y so just X remains, from dimension X he can watch every occurance in time on that planet, and choose the best time for him to come of his pocket dimension, into dimention Y and absorb their DNA or whatever he does (for reference i believe that this is the only way for lavos to leave his pocket dimension in dimension Y and return to the expanse of dimension X).
a contradiction to lavos's pocket dimension sucumbing to only universal time would be the fact that if you destroy his shell, it is still there in 12000ad during the ocean palace disaster, this would assume what happens in the ocean palace disaster actaully happened before you destroyed his shell, if you have destroyed his shell before this, it would mean u destroyed his shell during the 1999ad apocalypse, becuase the only times u fight lavos are either at the start of the game (right teleport), the ocean palace or in 1999ad, beating him either time except the latter results in the special ending, and is near impossible unless you are playing a + game, this leads to the general fact that crono NEVER defeats lavos outside of 1999ad, as there is no ending for a result other than this, we know the 1999ad event would be the time when lavos was ready to come out of his dimension and devour the world, so this would be late in universal time, while the ocean palace disaster could be at any time before this occured. one solution to this is that because the pocket dimension is inside dimension Y it is affected by the time of dimension Y, i would say that time travel is only possible if you are in a dimension outside of the one you originated from, EoT, the area you pass through form gate to gate namely dimension X, the pocket dimension is inside dimension Y so lavos cannot travel time inside it, he merely watches time waiting for the right moment, and sometimes intervenes, the ocean palace disaster, of which i will discuss later.
5) lavos's intentions- queen zeal states he is sucking the energy out of the planet, what she means i dont know, i merely know he is evolving humans so that he can merge his dna with theirs, does anyone know for sure why? poeple claim its for food, but how would mergind dna be sustanance, one thing we do know is what happened to lavos when he merged with schala, TD, so did he see this planet in this dimension and see the life-forms which at the time would be lizardmen, but he also saw the humans that once existed, was he interested in the humans, and so he came there, destroyed the lizardmen - by accident or not? - and then started forcing human evolution into a way that will eventaully lead to him evolving himself into an even greater being. now if lavos is using the essence of the planet as sustanance that would be what queen zeal is talking about, maybe he is using the planet as sustanance to continue his efforts of procuring dna to improve himself with.
6) the ocean palace disaster -
The zealians used the sun stones power for magic and such, but the sun stones power is limited and it ran out, the zealians discovered immensive power coming from inside the earth somewhere, they began extracting this energy and using it for their magics, this was lavos's energy which he used to remain alive if you will, for without this energy you would assume he could not open portals or create pocket dimensions, or sustain his life at all. when he noticed his energy being drained, he somehow used the energy the zealians were using to control them, he controlled the queen as it is likely she wanted immense power, lavos just took this ambition and amplified it in her to drive her insane and under lavos's will, he used her to awaken himself so that he could destroy the zealians before they used too much energy, and before they became too powerful to stop him, he then retreated back into the earth to continue his work.
okay my head is hurting now and im forgetting lots of things so ill take a break, please post back on what you think on some of these ideas please, anything is welcome.
there a few points i have, some more important than others :
1) marle's pendant -
why does it react to lucca's machine? presumable because the entity made it, but any further interpretations on this are welcome.
where did she get it from? it has been passed down from generation and looks like schala's so you presume they are one and the same, so marle is schala's decendant? if any can confirm these facts please do, for this creates the same paradox as the queene leene event at the start of the game, during the ocean palace disaster where schala disapears (to be fused with lavos) - which presumably does not happen unless crono interferes - surely this would mean schala has no children, marle does not exist, yet she never disapears. so can someone please clear this up for me, thanks in advance.
2) the wormholes idea of time -
you mentioned before how the wormholes and epoch never take you to the exact time they did the first time you use them, after going through the portal to 600ad, the next time you come all the events that took place while you were there are still existent. i didnt really understand what you were talking about when you cleared it up, but this is my theory - since the ocean palace disaster when janus and the sages were ported to diferent era's of time, this would appear to be when the portals where created, i know you say the entity did this and that could also be used in this theory just in a diferent way but bear with me, the portals where the people are taken are in the same place as where the portals you go through take you, so my idea is that during the ocean palace disaster lavos may have gone out of control and made these time gates (we know lavos has some form of control over time). now we take janus's case, when he goes through the gate he is a child, when crono and co go through the gate he is an adult, so universal time has passed since the ocean palace disaster. we have no idea how much universal time passed so we cannot prove that this time represents anything, my guess is that universal time is simaliar to the time in the lavos's pocket dimension, which goes with the theory the portals where opened by lavos, so therefore the time you arrive at when you go through a portal or use epoch is the designated time of the portal + universal time.
if you are sticking with the theory the time gates were created by the entity, then you could instead call these era's in time the time gates link to, memories of the entity, the era's of time the entity remembers most well and so these era's are the most powerful era's, when the ocean palace disaster occurs, i remain with my idea lavos went slightly out of control or something along these lines he used whatever powers of time he has and sent the people to these era's as they are the easiest places for this to occur, or he just opened a gate, the guru's and janus got sent through, and they were pulled to the times they were as if these times are magnets pulling matter out of the dimension you get sent to when you go through a gate (you must all now the eery visual effects when you jump through a gate, lets call that a dimension). okay tell me what you think about that.
3) time in the end of time -
the end of time i believe to be like lavos's pocket dimension, a dimension out of the universe if you will for i dont really know how to explain it, in fact lets say these are the same dimension, just diferent areas of it, now this is farfechted but the dimensions in which crono and co, serge, and all these dimensions you find out about in CC are inside this larger dimension of which lavos and the EoT inhabit, now lets say each dimension has its own "time", the larger dimensions "time" would be my idea of "universal time" that affects all other dimensions, while the time inside the dimensions (ill take the one from CT as an example) is the time like that of which crono travels, the reason time steadily goes on even when he is time traveling is because of the larger dimensions universal time.
4) exploring this theory -
now this probably contradicts a lot of CT and CC, so needs further exploration. lavos is part of the larger dimension, i will call this dimension X from now on, and crono's dimension Y, so keep up. getting more farfetched, lavos and the EoT probably among other things just exist in dimension X, going through time (we know for sure that EoT does sucumb to time by what belthesar says, he mentions how many poeple have been stumbling into the end of time recently - this in itself could provide many questions if would delve deep enough, but it would be more or less pointless as none of it could be proven in the slightest - now if time did not pass in the EoT everyone who ever went there would be there at the exact same time, and they are not). Knowing how belthesar knows everything that happens in crono's world, we would say that time in the other dimensions is much like a video for beings outside of that dimension to watch, rewind, and fastforward. lavos would be able to go from dimension X to any dimension, he chooses Y, he burrows deep into the core of a planet in Y and creates a pocket dimension - this would be like eating away part of dimension Y so just X remains, from dimension X he can watch every occurance in time on that planet, and choose the best time for him to come of his pocket dimension, into dimention Y and absorb their DNA or whatever he does (for reference i believe that this is the only way for lavos to leave his pocket dimension in dimension Y and return to the expanse of dimension X).
a contradiction to lavos's pocket dimension sucumbing to only universal time would be the fact that if you destroy his shell, it is still there in 12000ad during the ocean palace disaster, this would assume what happens in the ocean palace disaster actaully happened before you destroyed his shell, if you have destroyed his shell before this, it would mean u destroyed his shell during the 1999ad apocalypse, becuase the only times u fight lavos are either at the start of the game (right teleport), the ocean palace or in 1999ad, beating him either time except the latter results in the special ending, and is near impossible unless you are playing a + game, this leads to the general fact that crono NEVER defeats lavos outside of 1999ad, as there is no ending for a result other than this, we know the 1999ad event would be the time when lavos was ready to come out of his dimension and devour the world, so this would be late in universal time, while the ocean palace disaster could be at any time before this occured. one solution to this is that because the pocket dimension is inside dimension Y it is affected by the time of dimension Y, i would say that time travel is only possible if you are in a dimension outside of the one you originated from, EoT, the area you pass through form gate to gate namely dimension X, the pocket dimension is inside dimension Y so lavos cannot travel time inside it, he merely watches time waiting for the right moment, and sometimes intervenes, the ocean palace disaster, of which i will discuss later.
5) lavos's intentions- queen zeal states he is sucking the energy out of the planet, what she means i dont know, i merely know he is evolving humans so that he can merge his dna with theirs, does anyone know for sure why? poeple claim its for food, but how would mergind dna be sustanance, one thing we do know is what happened to lavos when he merged with schala, TD, so did he see this planet in this dimension and see the life-forms which at the time would be lizardmen, but he also saw the humans that once existed, was he interested in the humans, and so he came there, destroyed the lizardmen - by accident or not? - and then started forcing human evolution into a way that will eventaully lead to him evolving himself into an even greater being. now if lavos is using the essence of the planet as sustanance that would be what queen zeal is talking about, maybe he is using the planet as sustanance to continue his efforts of procuring dna to improve himself with.
6) the ocean palace disaster -
The zealians used the sun stones power for magic and such, but the sun stones power is limited and it ran out, the zealians discovered immensive power coming from inside the earth somewhere, they began extracting this energy and using it for their magics, this was lavos's energy which he used to remain alive if you will, for without this energy you would assume he could not open portals or create pocket dimensions, or sustain his life at all. when he noticed his energy being drained, he somehow used the energy the zealians were using to control them, he controlled the queen as it is likely she wanted immense power, lavos just took this ambition and amplified it in her to drive her insane and under lavos's will, he used her to awaken himself so that he could destroy the zealians before they used too much energy, and before they became too powerful to stop him, he then retreated back into the earth to continue his work.
okay my head is hurting now and im forgetting lots of things so ill take a break, please post back on what you think on some of these ideas please, anything is welcome.