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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: If you browse the GameFAQs forums
« on: November 25, 2008, 10:22:08 am »
I wish I could keep track of it too but GameFAQs is blocked on this laptop.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« on: November 25, 2008, 10:21:09 am »Wait, the age issue...
How do we explain that?
First, I'll tell those who don't know what the age issue is. (I doubt there's anyone who doesn't but it's best to err on the side of caution)
Simply put, the age issue is used by /b/tards (most appropriate name for these people that I can think of) that say that Guile is too old to be Magus. IMO, the Dream Devourer events are an attempt to connect Magus and Guile. As was the case with everyone else, I initially mistook Guile for Magus. And then I was told he wasn't. Then I discovered that he was supposed to be Magus but was altered due to his story being too complex to work into CC's already complex story. And now they have done the Dream Devourer stuff in CTDS, providing an explanation for why Guile and Magus are so different, that being that Magus encountered the Dream Devourer, and lost the resulting battle. Schala then sent him to the Present, where he awoke with no memory of his life. He would then start over as Guile, the enigmatic magician that teamed up with Serge to raid Viper Manor.
Wait, the age issue...
How do we explain that?
Not sure, Guile (26) is younger than Magus (30+), and if it is accepted that they are the same being then it creates a big problem.
Simple. SE hadn't decided to incorporate Guile into being an amnesiac Magus when they gave Guile his age.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« on: November 25, 2008, 09:27:09 am »Quote* Chrono series rules would absolutely forbid meeting a future version of yourself from YOUR perspective if YOU are the player. Time travelers are supposed to be on the cutting edge of their own personal histories. You can meet past versions of yourself, but not future versions from your perspective.
* If Future Magus really were from an alternate dimension, why would he be searching for THIS dimension's Schala? And this would also mean that the Darkness Beyond Time is connected to infinite dimensions (one DBT per infinity), which creates all sorts of probabilistic issues with the creation of a Time Devourer, which is capable of destroying the universe. Basically, as long as the probability of a Time Devourer forming is greater than 0 (and it is, apparently), then all existence would have been destroyed by now.
This is exactly why I think the Magus at Time's Eclipse is just "Future Magus", not "Another Dimension Magus".
Agreed. This complements the theory that Guile is an amnesiac Magus, as it explains the age issue.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CT DS - Needed Items [Contribute Inside]
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:57:53 am »Damn, you are totally on the ball. I didn't expect to get an answer until after I went to bed. Thanks a lot.
Talking to me?
<(???)
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Heh Chrono
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:56:58 am »And how do you get it? By paying that dude in the End of Time?
Same way you got the rest of the maps, I guess. You get it when you arrive.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CTDS New Ending =o
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:44:46 am »*sigh* Youtube took down the intro....
You know, pardon my language but f--- Youtube... Sure, a few years ago they would've been on my approval list but they take down so many videos that they sunk to my hated list. F*** THEM!
What did it say about the Intro? BTW I am kinda pissed at them myself b/c they deleted a series of vids depicting a run through MGS4, saying... sh**, I can't remember.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CTDS dialog translation to SNES CT?
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:43:13 am »Do we know if the Japanese CTDS script is any different from the original Japanese script? Y'know, besides the added content stuff anyways, of course...>_>
If it is, it would be cool to get a CTDS retranslation.
Seconded. I'm already reading the SNES retranslation.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS - Reactions (Spoilers)
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:41:55 am »Meh DS Mode still allows you to use buttons, but it's just as easy to navigate as classic mode. I use DS mode, but I never use the stylus
Hmm... I might do that instead. Thanks for the tip.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CT DS - Needed Items [Contribute Inside]
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:41:03 am »
Ugh, my brain hurts. 
But at least I can look to CTDS.
But at least I can look to CTDS.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:34:29 am »I see the Dream Devourer as the perfect means of placing Magus in CC. He loses his memory and becomes Guile. The age issue is possibly retconned, or explained as he arrived long enough before CC to age into what Guile is.
If Cross gets the same treatment as Trigger, personally, I wouldn't want it that way.
Why not? It makes sense, no?
Maybe, but that doesn't change my opinion of that. There are still many posibilities about what is his fate after that.
True, but we try to form theories.
Not really sure, just tossing it out there 'cause I like mixing the time travel and dimension travel concepts between
the games =)
I'm assuming that the concept behind "you can fight the DD in old saves rather than New Game +" represents an alternate world. You, as the player, defeat Lavos by some means initially but are then given the chance to go back and make a different choice.
1. Dimension A: Chrono and Co. defeat Lavos
2. Dimension A: Magus goes out to find Schala
3. Dimension B: Chrono and Co. stumble upon dimensional distortions instead of fighting Lavos
4. Dimensional Distortions: Dimension B Chrono Team learns of Dalton's plans, defeat some clones and enter Time's Eclipse
5. Time's Eclipse: Dimension B Chrono Team meets Dimension A Magus, who references the battle with Lavos
6. Time's Eclipse: Dimension B Chrono Team defeat the Dream Devourer but are sent back to their own time. Magus has his memories erased and is sent somewhere.
7. Dimension A: Dalton invades Guardia, Chrono Team A is blindsided because only Team B was informed.
And life goes on...
Supported. It seems to be the most reasonable of all the theories I've seen.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:29:30 am »
Which one PC original one?
Never mind. It's too late. As for which P.O.P. I meant the original version. A copy was embedded in P.O.P. Sands Of Time. I couldn't play it myself b/c my GCN is dead and my Wii is disconnected (so that my brother's PS3 could connect to the system in the Wii's place).
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Heh Chrono
« on: November 25, 2008, 08:27:15 am »What's this about a map with Kato? I know about the guy that offers to repair a map, but I didn't think it meant anything
He gave 1999 A.D. a full map. It looks like 600 A.D. except with domes and environmental aspects from 1000 A.D. It appears that Lavos surfaced on Medina Continent around where Magus Castle and Heckran Cave used to be.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Heh Chrono
« on: November 25, 2008, 12:33:51 am »We all know how Chrono's name is translated to Crono in the english versions. HOWEVER. Here comes the developer's ending when you talk to the Frog King sprite:Quote from: Fumi NakashimaDid you see the little character animations on the world map, ribbit? There's Lucca reading a book, Chrono all in a rush... Know what I'm talking about, ribbit?
Interesting how they call him Chrono there.
Just a funny lil' thing I though I should share for those who care
You've got the Developer's Ending? What does Taizo Mamo say? And since you can have over a million G, can you fix that broken map with Mitsuda in it?
he wants 10M G not 1M G.
Ouch. That's gonna be a lot of NewGame+ runs.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CT DS - Needed Items [Contribute Inside]
« on: November 25, 2008, 12:32:59 am »
Which one of Crono's swords is the Rainbow?
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