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I see the Dream Devourer as the perfect means of placing Magus in CC. He loses his memory and becomes Guile. The age issue is possibly retconned, or explained as he arrived long enough before CC to age into what Guile is.

If Cross gets the same treatment as Trigger, personally, I wouldn't want it that way.

Why not? It makes sense, no?

Maybe, but that doesn't change my opinion of that. There are still many posibilities about what is his fate after that.

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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Was Zealian blue hair dyed?
« on: November 25, 2008, 12:36:42 am »
I've checked both the original english and the retranslation like over ten times, and so far, the only blue hair mentioned is about Magus, when Frog asks where did the blue-haired one went after waking up in Ayla's tent. That, and Ayla asking if the blue-haired one tasted good.

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I see the Dream Devourer as the perfect means of placing Magus in CC. He loses his memory and becomes Guile. The age issue is possibly retconned, or explained as he arrived long enough before CC to age into what Guile is.

If Cross gets the same treatment as Trigger, personally, I wouldn't want it that way.

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I think it explains how Crono, Marle, and Lucca know about it when they appear as the apparitions in CC.

Not sure on that one. We still don't know if they died or survived the Fall of Guardia.

True, but maybe the illusions have their memories.

Again, no way to prove unless we know exactly how they came into existance.

2300
That one was funny. Definetly waiting for the next one.

2301
Hey, guys? I've gotten confused as to the final U.S. release date is. Isn't it tomorrow, November 25? Please reply ASAP.

Yep, 25th.

YES!!!

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Good. Although, I don't have a DS. Guess I'll stick with the Japanese ROM for now.

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I think it explains how Crono, Marle, and Lucca know about it when they appear as the apparitions in CC.

Not sure on that one. We still don't know if they died or survived the Fall of Guardia.

2303
Wonder Shot's damage now varies depending on play time rather than a random multiplication.

And how does that one works now?

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I think the problem here is that many take in the fact you can load the normal save file after defeating Lavos, and as such, Crono and company can fight the Dream Devourer before Lavos, which can't be, since Lavos must be defeated first. If taken that out of the picture, then it's impossible for them to fight the Dream Devourer before Lavos.

And about after defeating Lavos, I'm not sure. How would they know about the Dream Devourer anyway?

2305
Confuse is now Frenzy. Now that name makes sence for the attack.

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Is Guile an amnesiac post-CTDS Magus?
« on: November 23, 2008, 09:00:51 pm »
I support that theory, and about those three areas, I don't know. Probably explored by party ''B'' too.

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My opinion remains as it is: The Crono and company who fought the Dream Devourer and the ones who fought Lavos are two different versions. They did fought the being, but they aren't the same who fought Lavos.

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Is Guile an amnesiac post-CTDS Magus?
« on: November 23, 2008, 04:43:57 pm »
I do hope it will be DS, since otherwise I'll have to buy a PSP. But I'm saving money just in case :D

Me too. Although right now I have the money, I usually don't buy a new console for just one game. But who knows, if the game is good enough, I may do. And considering it is Chrono Cross, then I will.

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''I'm not following your logic. There has to have been a point in 1000 AD where there was no forest, or else Chrono and team would never have planted the seed. If you go back in time and change something, the changes are evident only after you make the change. Just as the Chrono series explains, every time something in a timeline is changed in the past, it creates a "new dimension" proceeding from that point forward. The characters return to the new dimension where there is a forest, and the old dimension without a forest is relegated to the Darkness Beyond Time. I believe.''

There, there it is the answer. It goes like this:

1st. Time Line (Without forest):

1,000

1) Crono arrives here with the seed. No forest.
2) He travels to the year 600.

First time line from 600 onward is sent to the DBT, 2nd time line is created.

2nd Time Line (With Forest):

600

1) Crono arrives from 1,000.
2) Crono plants the seed.
3) Crono returns to 1,000.

600-1,000

1) Forest grows.

1,000

1) By TTI, Crono arrives with the seed. He sees the forest.
2) Crono decides there is no need to plant it anymore.
3) By TB, Crono disappears the moment the other one, who did travel, went to 600.
4) By TTI, the Crono who did planted the seed returns to find the forest.

There, it works that way.

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I think the ones who fight the DD are past versions of them, who were surprised to find the Temporal Vortexes and the portal to Time's Eclipse and decided to check them out. Those areas open after the defeat of Lavos, so why not a past version of them (who can, unlike the current ones, who defeated Lavos and went their separate ways) traveled to those places?
Pardon me if I do say that this makes no sense.

Taken from a previous post of mine:

After all, even if they are in, for example, 600 A.D. fighting Retinite, before, while going for the Masamune, there wasn't any Sunken Desert, but after telling the woman in Zeal not to burn the seed, there now is, meaning all past versions who crossed 600 A.D. for various reasons (Looking for the Masamune, going to Magus's Castle, etc.), are now going to see the place. Eventually, they will get Time Bastarded, but still, they can do something that can make a further change to the time line to the ones already done (thankfully they don't, or else more troubles could arrise to keep track of the continuity).
I prefer to see it as when a change is made to an era, the characters will only see those changes in subsequent visits. It makes things (thankfully) much less confusing. For example, there is the normal flow of time, and there is the character's timeline.

They travel through 1,000 AD at first, there is no forest. -> They then travel to 600 AD and planet the seed. -> They go back to 1000 AD and the forest is there. -> The history books say that a forest grew there starting in 600 AD.

But that does not mean that they forest was there in their past visits to 1000 AD.

It will be, since the first time-line-chronological event was the planting of the seed. After that, the forest will grow. In their first travel through 1,000 A.D., the forest will be there. True, it eliminates the need to plant the seed now, but we have Time Bastard and Time Traveler Immunity to solve this. Then, when the ones who planted the seed return to 1,000 A.D., the forest will be there thanks to their change.

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