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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The possibility of a Chrono Cross remake.

« on: November 24, 2008, 12:31:23 am »

Anyone who upholds FF7 as a pinnacle of anything needs to take a long hard look at their tastes in entertainment. (Not to bash FF7; its vastly over-rated but fun, in my opinion

And I'm not holding it in the pinnacle of things, (nor, in reverse, am I Cross) and that's rather presumptuous to think that. I chose that for the comparison because both games were worked on by Kato.  A large portion of FF7's hype is from utilizing a new means of cinematic presentation to emphasize emotional elements unlike anything done before in game, or at least on an accessible scale.  By today's standards now, it isn't as good, but as a product of its time, that's where it stands out.  I could've also suggested Xenogears (which I would say is better than Cross and FF7)  but I felt that FF7 is more universally experienced, and thus would get a larger range of replies.

I do find the replies rather interesting though,  particularly since many missed the question comparison (which at least someone admitted they weren't sure what I meant) and instead focused on the two games as a whole.  I'm trying to be an aspiring writer in fiction works, so when I play games, I place a greater amount of attention on the separate parts of the game, and then later the whole, which is why I brought up a focus aimed strictly at emotional character weight.

Yea, the characters of FF7 are cookie cutter, more designed to fit known roles in the Final Fantasy archetype,  but what makes each story different is the dynamic tension, which the characters themselves go through. I found myself bored with Cross, like with an assigned novel and research paper; its characters and environment 'unbelievable' or rather, unconvincing.  The effects on Cross that events can change by who you recruit into your party is okay, but the lack of direct association anyone has to the story outside of Kid and Serge is horribly lacking.  They're not so much tied to the cause of saving time and dimensions, but rather just choosing to work with Serge for whatever.  It felt more like everyone else is out of the story loop and that this was Square's way of trying to be a Suikoden. (which handles large casts and stories very well)  By the comment on 'optional' characters, I'd just about associate that with the entirety of the cast of Chrono Cross.  Its 'better' characterization is both lacking in quality and overwhelming in quantity.  

As a game, Cross is a bit the better, showing the signs of experience and success in its gameplay.  As a story, (or as a story being told) I find it weaker, especially being a 'Chrono' game.  I think if they'd severed ties with Chrono Trigger and aimed it as a stand alone universe, it would've made the game that much more interesting.

I have to agree with you there. I disliked the large character cast in the game. The only characters I absolutely loved were Serge, Lynx and Kid. The three were very deep characters, and I wished that the game focused a bit more on the three. I wish SE could cut out the other completely useless and random characters, like everyone except Glenn, Harle, the people in affiliation with General Viper and Viper Manor, and maybe Fargo and Steena.
If they cut down all the random characters, you'll find yourself with a much better game. Less characters = more character development.
People wouldn't have reacted so negatively to the game if there was that "close-nit" group feel that Trigger had.
Wouldn't you agree.
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This is a random topic, but how many of you would have liked to have Lynx (the real one) as a recruitable character?

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The possibility of a Chrono Cross remake.

« on: November 23, 2008, 01:24:50 am »

I have to agree with Dark Serge. In terms of gameplay, Cross is the better game. I liked the feature where you could run away from all battles, save some exceptions. Cross focuses on the player's enjoyment as well as provide some difficulty. FF7 on the other hand requires time to power your characters. Some bosses are tough to beat and can frustrate the player. Cross is more enjoyable that way.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The possibility of a Chrono Cross remake.

« on: November 22, 2008, 09:57:09 pm »

I'd like more of an enhanced port more than anything, with features, such as better graphics, fixing unclear aspects of the game, maybe adding more character development and FMV's.
Because SE is breathing life into the series, I think Cross is worthy of a enhanced port.
Besides, Chrono Cross is a great game, but if SE just adds a little more character development and fixes up the unclearness of the plot, you'll have a much better game.
Make sense?

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]

« on: November 21, 2008, 04:32:22 pm »

Looks like they're planning to stamp out Cross completely.  I wonder why...

What makes you think that. Clearly, they are leading into Chrono Cross, because the Dream Devourer wasn't "destroyed" and Magus looses his memory. The FMV of the wedding depict Lucca finding Kid, and the secret ending showing the fall of Guardia.

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]

« on: November 20, 2008, 09:32:06 pm »

I am pretty happy that Chrono Cross wasn't thrust out of the window, this further evidences that a Cross port/remake is on its way.
I am very happy about this.

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]

« on: November 20, 2008, 06:07:30 pm »

Dark Serge, is the FMV with Crono and Marle's marriage the same as in the PSX version?
Does it still show Lucca finding Kid as a baby?

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS's Scores

« on: November 14, 2008, 04:49:13 pm »

Well, it's not a surprise that it would get that score...

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Official Youtube / NICOVideo / Dailymotion Thread

« on: October 26, 2008, 02:07:53 am »

I found some stuff...

A Chrono Cross manga?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1947851

Serge appears in this video around 1:30. He is in the Lucky Star Anime opening.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1197172

Oh dear... xD
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4069708

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The possibility of a Chrono Cross remake.

« on: October 21, 2008, 05:10:17 pm »

I believe that they will remake it; it's far too good of a game, and series, to be neglected. I don't understand why Square Enix focuses on games, like some of the Final Fantasy games, that do not receive as good of reviews than both CT and CC have gotten. Clearly, CT and CC offer players a different experience than your generic Final Fantasy. It's sad how the series have become underrated, when they have so much potential.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / The possibility of a Chrono Cross remake.

« on: October 21, 2008, 03:57:19 am »

Since the Chrono Trigger DS game is going to be released in a matter of weeks, do you guys think that a Chrono Cross remake is possible?
I believe that there is a possibility that it could be remade.
Since Trigger was ported to the DS, it is most likely that Square will finally give some attention to the Chrono series.
Discuss...