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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 21, 2008, 06:01:26 pm »Is there also a new FMV ending? Or just the new ending with Magus?
Just the ending with Magus
Perhaps something new is shown on new game+ ? I'm guessing no one has gotten that far yet though.
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Site Updates / Re: CT DS Leaked, SPOILER! SPOILER! NEW CT:DS POST-FINAL BOSS REVEALED!
« on: November 21, 2008, 05:09:07 pm »
Chrono Cross had good points, i loved the schala/time devourer stuff. Absolutely loved it.
But Kato absolutely felt the need to add a scene to the end of Chrono Trigger that shows us the Fall of Guardia. It had to be in there to somehow magically link it to Chrono Cross. Much later in an interview he tells us, that it didn't have much to do with Cross and thus he left any explanation of the event out of it.
He gets another oppertunity to fix the Fall of Guardia stuff with CTDS. And he again leaves it completely open? I could never understand why the Fall of Guardia had to happen for it to be linked more with Chrono Cross, and there was absolutely no reason for it, it seems. It's just a revenge thing from Dalton now.
I'm sorry, but that just pisses me off.
But Kato absolutely felt the need to add a scene to the end of Chrono Trigger that shows us the Fall of Guardia. It had to be in there to somehow magically link it to Chrono Cross. Much later in an interview he tells us, that it didn't have much to do with Cross and thus he left any explanation of the event out of it.
He gets another oppertunity to fix the Fall of Guardia stuff with CTDS. And he again leaves it completely open? I could never understand why the Fall of Guardia had to happen for it to be linked more with Chrono Cross, and there was absolutely no reason for it, it seems. It's just a revenge thing from Dalton now.
I'm sorry, but that just pisses me off.
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Site Updates / Re: CT DS Leaked, SPOILER! SPOILER! NEW CT:DS POST-FINAL BOSS REVEALED!
« on: November 21, 2008, 01:06:47 pm »
All the new ending does is tie in with Chrono Cross even more, and yet we still can't answer one of the most important questions. What are the fates of the original team(Crono and Co)?
Kato needs to get off his ass and answer that question instead of jumping through more hoops to connect CT with CC.
Kato needs to get off his ass and answer that question instead of jumping through more hoops to connect CT with CC.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 21, 2008, 03:50:15 am »Well it was only supposed to be a CT port to begin with. Imo we should be glad that they at least added some new content instead of just porting it over. They could have done better, but I'm happy with this too.
I'm far from it, not even going to buy it anymore. The only explanation i can deal with now is that everyone is send back to their own time, but Crono, Marle and Lucca are sent after the fall has taken place. And i'm sure most of you will have countless theories to counter that, but just bah.
I just knew i was gonna be dissapoined by this new "material" just as much as i was with the fall of guardia ending. Can't believe that for a moment i thought different.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 21, 2008, 03:24:49 am »
That's it? Memory Loss... oh fuck you kato. We still don't know shit about Crono, Marle and Lucca. And now i suppose we are going to get chrono trigger 2? That will just be another empty promise. Bastards
Where the hell is a somewhat happy ending in all this? This is just some lousy attempt at making guile = magus. I want to fracking know what happens to Crono and Marle after the fall. They deserve a happy life for all the shit they dealt with. Another 20 years of waiting before we may see something remotely resembling a new crono game, and i'll tell you right now. We still won't have an answer to that question.
Where the hell is a somewhat happy ending in all this? This is just some lousy attempt at making guile = magus. I want to fracking know what happens to Crono and Marle after the fall. They deserve a happy life for all the shit they dealt with. Another 20 years of waiting before we may see something remotely resembling a new crono game, and i'll tell you right now. We still won't have an answer to that question.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 20, 2008, 07:05:16 pm »
ShadowPlumb Robe?
Fiendlord?
Dear god... what have they done to magus o.o;
Fiendlord?
Dear god... what have they done to magus o.o;
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 20, 2008, 05:55:02 pm »
From the wiki: (not 100% reliable of course)
Upon completion of the game, a new ending referred to as the 'Dimensional Distortion' is unlocked. This is supposedly an entirely new dungeon that contains a new final boss.
It fits though. You basically got 3 new dungeons that are unlocked. 1 of them showed you stuff from Dalton, perhaps the new boss is unlocked after you beat the other dungeons. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens when you've finished the other 2...
Upon completion of the game, a new ending referred to as the 'Dimensional Distortion' is unlocked. This is supposedly an entirely new dungeon that contains a new final boss.
It fits though. You basically got 3 new dungeons that are unlocked. 1 of them showed you stuff from Dalton, perhaps the new boss is unlocked after you beat the other dungeons. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens when you've finished the other 2...
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 20, 2008, 05:22:30 pm »
Starting to think that the new ending might reveal what happened to Crono, and Marle during the fall of guardia.
Temporal Vortex seems to be setting things up as a prelude to the actual fall. And then this TimeDevourer/SchalaLavos thing shows up to keep Crono and Co busy. When they finally return to their own time, the fall of guardia has happened already.
Of course that could just be wishfull thinking on my part, to have the original cast survive the ordeal...
Temporal Vortex seems to be setting things up as a prelude to the actual fall. And then this TimeDevourer/SchalaLavos thing shows up to keep Crono and Co busy. When they finally return to their own time, the fall of guardia has happened already.
Of course that could just be wishfull thinking on my part, to have the original cast survive the ordeal...
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]
« on: November 20, 2008, 03:21:15 pm »
Just wanted to say thanks for doing this Dark Serge.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CTDS New Ending =o
« on: November 15, 2008, 09:05:55 pm »
I just no longer believe in seeing said sequel... i was already surprised to no extend when an extra ending was announced, that is related to cannon. I believe that is all we will get, and some stuff to fix some plot related stuff with dalton.
Honestly the only thing i could think of where the new ending comes in play is the fall of guardia, what else is there? Schala becoming the time devourer? that just doesn't fly with me. Think about it... if Crono and Co sees that happening, they wouldn't just drop their quest to go home. They would save her no matter what. And that would most definately erase CC from canon.
DS: I guess we differ on that. I have to know what happens to the protagonists. An RPG is about it's characters IMO, you see the story through their eyes. The characters develop as the story goes on, that's far more important. In CT lavos is the tool that bonds these characters together in a common goal. That was another thing i really missed in CC(too many characters).
Honestly the only thing i could think of where the new ending comes in play is the fall of guardia, what else is there? Schala becoming the time devourer? that just doesn't fly with me. Think about it... if Crono and Co sees that happening, they wouldn't just drop their quest to go home. They would save her no matter what. And that would most definately erase CC from canon.
DS: I guess we differ on that. I have to know what happens to the protagonists. An RPG is about it's characters IMO, you see the story through their eyes. The characters develop as the story goes on, that's far more important. In CT lavos is the tool that bonds these characters together in a common goal. That was another thing i really missed in CC(too many characters).
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CTDS New Ending =o
« on: November 15, 2008, 08:39:55 pm »
Dark Serge:
I'm not a chrono series fan then
I just love chrono trigger, as it was the first RPG i ever played. Square ruined that for me quite a bit with the whole fall of guardia bit, and not clearing it up anyway in well... ever. The CT cast either dies, or comes back as some sort of ghost/entity/spirit/leftovertimethingy with very little explanation as to how? why? I will admit that the schala/time devourer thing was interesting though. As a CT fan i wanted a few more answers, and not be left with 30 more.
Really hope this new ending clears at least some things up. I just wanna frigging know what happened to chrono, marle and guardia. Which is a perfectly legitimate question. And one i can imagine new people to the series will ask when they see that ending sequence on CTDS.
Mav:
I was only talking about the fall of guardia, not what an entire new game would encompass. Just saying that the fall of guardia just isn't enough to fill a new game with, but perhaps they will in a new ending. Or perhaps an epilogue mobile game like FF4: The After.
I'm not a chrono series fan then
I just love chrono trigger, as it was the first RPG i ever played. Square ruined that for me quite a bit with the whole fall of guardia bit, and not clearing it up anyway in well... ever. The CT cast either dies, or comes back as some sort of ghost/entity/spirit/leftovertimethingy with very little explanation as to how? why? I will admit that the schala/time devourer thing was interesting though. As a CT fan i wanted a few more answers, and not be left with 30 more.Really hope this new ending clears at least some things up. I just wanna frigging know what happened to chrono, marle and guardia. Which is a perfectly legitimate question. And one i can imagine new people to the series will ask when they see that ending sequence on CTDS.
Mav:
I was only talking about the fall of guardia, not what an entire new game would encompass. Just saying that the fall of guardia just isn't enough to fill a new game with, but perhaps they will in a new ending. Or perhaps an epilogue mobile game like FF4: The After.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CTDS New Ending =o
« on: November 15, 2008, 06:20:22 pm »
Too bad it's a sequel we will never, ever get to see. Even if CTDS ends up selling well, i still wouldn't hold my breath. You probably can't fill an entire game anyway with a short story like the fall of guardia.
Something Intervened with the flow of time
Castle went boom
Town went burn
Stuff apparently got rebuild
Sounds more like something you'd put in an epilogue, or perhaps a new ending. We already have a part of it, they might as well tell us what else happened there. They will probably do it in a way that will piss off CT fans though, in an attempt to make CC more canon. Easiest and quickest answer being that Crono, and Marle end up dead.
Something Intervened with the flow of time
Castle went boom
Town went burn
Stuff apparently got rebuild
Sounds more like something you'd put in an epilogue, or perhaps a new ending. We already have a part of it, they might as well tell us what else happened there. They will probably do it in a way that will piss off CT fans though, in an attempt to make CC more canon. Easiest and quickest answer being that Crono, and Marle end up dead.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CTDS New Ending =o
« on: November 15, 2008, 02:37:50 pm »
I have played and finished CC. Didn't like it for the sole reason it doesn't explain jack about the fall of guardia, which was my main reason for playing CC. They've left that open for a true sequel, one we are never going to see.
I've had discussions about the fall, and about what happened to crono and marle on these boards before. No real evidence is ever provided if they are either dead, alive, or kidnapped by aliens. I'm hoping this new ending will fix that somehow.
New insights on the fall of guardia would be nice, and some evidence pointing out that crono and marle are still alive would definately be a plus. I'm hoping the fall of guardia doesn't happen anymore, which probably erases CC from canon as well. I can live with that.
New Chrono game would be nice, but i don't see it happening. I'd rather see them clear up the fall of guardia events and go back to making final fantasy(not that those games have lived up to the hype lately).
I've had discussions about the fall, and about what happened to crono and marle on these boards before. No real evidence is ever provided if they are either dead, alive, or kidnapped by aliens. I'm hoping this new ending will fix that somehow.
New insights on the fall of guardia would be nice, and some evidence pointing out that crono and marle are still alive would definately be a plus. I'm hoping the fall of guardia doesn't happen anymore, which probably erases CC from canon as well. I can live with that.
New Chrono game would be nice, but i don't see it happening. I'd rather see them clear up the fall of guardia events and go back to making final fantasy(not that those games have lived up to the hype lately).
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CTDS New Ending =o
« on: November 15, 2008, 05:58:36 am »
I am probably alone in hoping that the new ending removes the CC storyline from Canon, and make room for a new sequel. Even if that doesn't happen, i still hope it will lead to a much better ending then the fall of guardia scene.
Cause that's really not a scene you want to put at the end of a game, if you're trying to get new people interested in the franchise. Especially if a sequel explaining it will never be made.
Cause that's really not a scene you want to put at the end of a game, if you're trying to get new people interested in the franchise. Especially if a sequel explaining it will never be made.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Fall of Guardia / Rise of Porre / CT Cast after Chrono Cross
« on: August 24, 2008, 05:17:16 am »
CC leaves a lot of things to the player, in terms of figuring shit out. While that doesn't have to be a bad thing, it can quite frustrating. I agree with Captain B. Even if they make another chrono game, it will most likely not answer a whole lot of questions.
Kato does state that he left some things for another story. It was in one of the interviews i think ( was about a question from chrono trigger. I just can't find it again ). I really hope they cover at least that much. You can't really rely on a 5+ year old interview though....
Kato does state that he left some things for another story. It was in one of the interviews i think ( was about a question from chrono trigger. I just can't find it again ). I really hope they cover at least that much. You can't really rely on a 5+ year old interview though....