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Dream Splash I - Zeal [2007] / Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
« on: June 07, 2008, 04:44:59 pm »...
Actually, they are Polygons. I prefer to use polygons. My highschool teacher bought Maya for our computer tech class.
O.o; that must be a loooooooot of polys.... Oh well XD keep at it... As for me... I should get back to doing the inside of Zeal XD
ganbatte
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Vipers...related to Tata?(+Pierre and Hero's Medal)
« on: June 07, 2008, 03:22:23 pm »
ok lets look at something, Pierre's hero equipment seems to be the same ones from the previous chrono installment,
The hero medal: no one knows for certain where it went after 600AD, Glenn perhaps left it in the hands of someone he trusted, asin other theories, possibly someone in Porre.
If I remember correctly, Porre was home to Tata as well(the boy who cried hero). Tata, if you remember, had a shield--
a green slightly shiny one. This seems to be the same shield as is found in the Viper manor treasury.
Now, here is my theory, (I hope its a viable one this time XD; )
Ok, I'm basing this on the theory that Glenn created the Dragoons in Porre after the events of CT. For sake of simplicity, we assume the family lines of all characters are fairly linear and not branching in every direction.
It doesn't take into account Glenn's(El Nido) relation to Glenn(Frog).
I am sorry if my thoughts seem stupid or not very well thought out, but I enjoy simply theorizing and conversing...
The hero medal: no one knows for certain where it went after 600AD, Glenn perhaps left it in the hands of someone he trusted, asin other theories, possibly someone in Porre.
If I remember correctly, Porre was home to Tata as well(the boy who cried hero). Tata, if you remember, had a shield--
a green slightly shiny one. This seems to be the same shield as is found in the Viper manor treasury.
Now, here is my theory, (I hope its a viable one this time XD; )
- Glenn establishes the Acacia Dragoons.
- Tata, seeking to redeem himself for past mistakes, trains and eventually joins the Dragoons
- Glenn entrusts the hero medal to the grand master reigning during his declining age and health
- Tata continues his family line and makes a tradition of a son being born into the Dragoons
- Tata's family either is, or becomes, the Viper family, whose heirlooms include Tata's shield
- The above mentioned grandmaster leaves in his age to start or be with his family, leaving the Medal to them
- Eventually Gen. Viper becomes the current heir to the Viper line, makes his name in porre etc etc and ends up in El Nido--taking the shield with him.
- The family of the ex-grandmaster has continued now, and has a very strong sense of duty, honor, etc etc...but, being far removed from the Dragoon order themselves, are not entirely capable as warriors... more like "noblemen"
- Succeeding the ex-grandmaster family is Pierre, who made his way to El Nido to 'reclaim his family's glory as Dragoons' or something(as part of his quest, he takes his family heirloom, the hero medal with him, as proof of lineage)
- Serge is sucked into another world by the vaccuum of his absence, beginning the adventures in chrono cross, meeting pierre, viper, etc. linking their histories together once again.
Ok, I'm basing this on the theory that Glenn created the Dragoons in Porre after the events of CT. For sake of simplicity, we assume the family lines of all characters are fairly linear and not branching in every direction.
It doesn't take into account Glenn's(El Nido) relation to Glenn(Frog).
I am sorry if my thoughts seem stupid or not very well thought out, but I enjoy simply theorizing and conversing...
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Dream Splash I - Zeal [2007] / Re: [WIP] Zeal Palace in 3D (one person can't do all of Zeal, ne?)
« on: June 07, 2008, 02:19:58 pm »
Maya 8.5, I took a class in it last semester. I had some issues with the stairs, if you look at the original map, some of the stairs don't seem to occupy all 3 dimentions...(like they're painted onto the wall) So I had to take a little creative leeway... But I suppose a few things can't be helped... I plan on making the whole palace one file, continous mapped, from the main hall to all the corridors, to the rooms, to the mammon machine... if they all fit without overlapping.
(BTW, the mammon machine the JS rooms both use the same hallway right? and the Throne room uses a different one?
(BTW, the mammon machine the JS rooms both use the same hallway right? and the Throne room uses a different one?
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Playable character mod: Schala
« on: June 07, 2008, 07:38:26 am »hmm... just my opinion, but a short skirt doesn't really seem fitting for Schala... Schala struck me as a very refined young woman... (basicly, the type of girl Marle wasn't, but should have been.) The dagger I can see though. A lot of women, especially of high status, carried daggers for self defense in the middle ages--not that 12000BC is "middle" ages... but... seems fine.
(A lot of people don't know that... also some men would carry around several daggers of valuable material, for chance encounters with a woman that might need wooing... as gifts. It was sort of a gift for women men could carry around without losing face... as opposed to things like flowers and jewelry... also they were slightly less likely to be stolen...)
Rambling aside, I wouldn't mind playing Schala myself... but... idunno... that skirt just kind of... makes Schala look kind of whorish to me...doesn't bother me as much on Lucca... but then I don't use her much and she is far from refined...
I suppose you're right but it'll take to darn long to modify everything, I'll give it a try but I don't think it's really worth it. Plus don't you think it would it be hard to run in a dress?
well.... I suppose... but, if it had a split down the side, one that is fairly invisible while walking or stading, you could use her stock positions, plus the extras you would need to make could be derived from them... inserting only a leg or something...
but hey, it's your thing don't let my ides hinder you.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Belthasar......? (with a little Of Project Kid mixed in)
« on: June 07, 2008, 06:47:19 am »
Ok... I'm officially confused.
Belthasar was warped to the ruined future, right? There, he developed Epoch and a way to climb up to Death Peak. (speaking of, if death peak is lavos covered in crud, where do the lavos spawn come out of...? shouldn't there be a pathway inside lavos from there?)
Anyway, shortly after death peak, he died and left his last memory fragments in the Nu/robot/thing....
How did he A. escape the destruction of the future, and B. end up in the non destroyed future...?
He was sent to an already crushed future, which was destroyed when lavos was defeated. Wouldn't, then he be forced into the darkness beyond time or cease to exist or something? According to Time Traveler's Immunity, he should be unchanged by events changed in the past, however, since he was transported to the dying world after the day of lavos, when history was changed, shouldn't he have remained in the dead time or possibly in the DBT because the place he was transported to, would have never existed?
Even still, how did he have the time, (if he was dying anyway) to build the Neo Epoch, to somehow save himself from having to wait 10000 years for Serge to show up in Viper's library, (or for that matter for Viper's library to exist)?
Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I never thought about it until after I read about TTI etc...
Not only that, but he would have had to have lived a fairly long while in Chronopolis to get all his planning/studying/discovering done for Project Kid...
And speaking of Kid, she obviously didn't met Serge until he was attacked by Karsh, so, shouldn't that mean she went back in time afterSchala was freed, and in any case, HOW did she travel through time?
Chrono Cross never seems to make full sense to me... normally I'm pretty good with this stuff but... every time I figure something in CC out, it only confuses other things I thought were given...
Belthasar was warped to the ruined future, right? There, he developed Epoch and a way to climb up to Death Peak. (speaking of, if death peak is lavos covered in crud, where do the lavos spawn come out of...? shouldn't there be a pathway inside lavos from there?)
Anyway, shortly after death peak, he died and left his last memory fragments in the Nu/robot/thing....
How did he A. escape the destruction of the future, and B. end up in the non destroyed future...?
He was sent to an already crushed future, which was destroyed when lavos was defeated. Wouldn't, then he be forced into the darkness beyond time or cease to exist or something? According to Time Traveler's Immunity, he should be unchanged by events changed in the past, however, since he was transported to the dying world after the day of lavos, when history was changed, shouldn't he have remained in the dead time or possibly in the DBT because the place he was transported to, would have never existed?
Even still, how did he have the time, (if he was dying anyway) to build the Neo Epoch, to somehow save himself from having to wait 10000 years for Serge to show up in Viper's library, (or for that matter for Viper's library to exist)?
Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I never thought about it until after I read about TTI etc...
Not only that, but he would have had to have lived a fairly long while in Chronopolis to get all his planning/studying/discovering done for Project Kid...
And speaking of Kid, she obviously didn't met Serge until he was attacked by Karsh, so, shouldn't that mean she went back in time afterSchala was freed, and in any case, HOW did she travel through time?
Chrono Cross never seems to make full sense to me... normally I'm pretty good with this stuff but... every time I figure something in CC out, it only confuses other things I thought were given...
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Dream Splash I - Zeal [2007] / Re: [WIP] Zeal Palace in 3D (one person can't do all of Zeal, ne?)
« on: June 07, 2008, 05:59:52 am »
I'm hoping progress is worthy of a double post...
Here is the first image of Zeal Palace, unskinned, low detail...
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Here is the first image of Zeal Palace, unskinned, low detail...
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Playable character mod: Schala
« on: June 07, 2008, 04:45:06 am »
hmm... just my opinion, but a short skirt doesn't really seem fitting for Schala... Schala struck me as a very refined young woman... (basicly, the type of girl Marle wasn't, but should have been.) The dagger I can see though. A lot of women, especially of high status, carried daggers for self defense in the middle ages--not that 12000BC is "middle" ages... but... seems fine.
(A lot of people don't know that... also some men would carry around several daggers of valuable material, for chance encounters with a woman that might need wooing... as gifts. It was sort of a gift for women men could carry around without losing face... as opposed to things like flowers and jewelry... also they were slightly less likely to be stolen...)
Rambling aside, I wouldn't mind playing Schala myself... but... idunno... that skirt just kind of... makes Schala look kind of whorish to me...doesn't bother me as much on Lucca... but then I don't use her much and she is far from refined...
(A lot of people don't know that... also some men would carry around several daggers of valuable material, for chance encounters with a woman that might need wooing... as gifts. It was sort of a gift for women men could carry around without losing face... as opposed to things like flowers and jewelry... also they were slightly less likely to be stolen...)
Rambling aside, I wouldn't mind playing Schala myself... but... idunno... that skirt just kind of... makes Schala look kind of whorish to me...doesn't bother me as much on Lucca... but then I don't use her much and she is far from refined...
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Dream Splash I - Zeal [2007] / Re: [HELP] Zeal Palace in 3D (one person can't do all of Zeal, ne?)
« on: June 07, 2008, 02:23:34 am »
Bah! I was completely wrong on all accounts XD;;;
Oh well useful much, thanks.
I'll show off my prelims as soon as I get something decent looking... til then...
Oh well useful much, thanks.
I'll show off my prelims as soon as I get something decent looking... til then...
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Dream Splash I - Zeal [2007] / [HIATUS] Zeal Palace in 3D (one person can't do all of Zeal, ne?)
« on: June 07, 2008, 01:58:05 am »
First off, I have only this to work from:
http://sdb.drshnaps.com/images/BGs/CT/ZealPalace.png
Now, my question is this:
There are 3 doorways in that image:
One on the far left, leading down a hallway to a fork that leads to Janus and Schala's rooms.
One leading down the main corridor (in the center) to the Mammon machine room.
But, where does the one farthest to the right lead? (or I may have it backwards and that one leads to J and S's rooms...)
Is it the room that resembles the Mammon Machine room, but has some sort of throan instead? (I don't remember well... and I don't have ZSNES with me or the patience to play up to Zeal just for a small detail lookup...)
If there's a map here on the compendium that I may have missed, please point it out?
http://sdb.drshnaps.com/images/BGs/CT/ZealPalace.png
Now, my question is this:
There are 3 doorways in that image:
One on the far left, leading down a hallway to a fork that leads to Janus and Schala's rooms.
One leading down the main corridor (in the center) to the Mammon machine room.
But, where does the one farthest to the right lead? (or I may have it backwards and that one leads to J and S's rooms...)
Is it the room that resembles the Mammon Machine room, but has some sort of throan instead? (I don't remember well... and I don't have ZSNES with me or the patience to play up to Zeal just for a small detail lookup...)
If there's a map here on the compendium that I may have missed, please point it out?
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Dream Splash I - Zeal [2007] / Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
« on: June 07, 2008, 01:19:14 am »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a big pile of NURBS isn't it?
If so, I would seriously recommend using subdiv objects, they act like nurbs, but you can edit them like a polymesh... and you can make creases and such... much... much... easier... and with more precision. for instance you can make the mountains a little bit sharper, without making them look like cubes or whatever...
BTW, this is NOT me teling you how to do your business, it is only a suggestion... from one maya user, to another...
Are you in school for modeling or game design? (Like me XD; ) Either way I wish you the best of luck in all endevours... and hope for your ability to expediate your work so you have more time of your own... (college work suxz... but that's just my opinion)
If so, I would seriously recommend using subdiv objects, they act like nurbs, but you can edit them like a polymesh... and you can make creases and such... much... much... easier... and with more precision. for instance you can make the mountains a little bit sharper, without making them look like cubes or whatever...
BTW, this is NOT me teling you how to do your business, it is only a suggestion... from one maya user, to another...
Are you in school for modeling or game design? (Like me XD; ) Either way I wish you the best of luck in all endevours... and hope for your ability to expediate your work so you have more time of your own... (college work suxz... but that's just my opinion)
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Submissions / Re: I was inspired into the Chrono fandom once again...
« on: June 07, 2008, 12:27:40 am »
"In the hands of an artist, even pain can be beautiful..."
I'm working on getting a new pen for my tablet, apparently you can buy them separately from the manufacturer.... with a little palm grease... (actually I just emailed them asking for one and they said I could buy one.... XD)
But yeah... I've always felt there was a far stronger connection between Serge and Kid myself... but then again... people here have brought up the Serge, Kid, Leena conundrum.... (for me though, I see it this way... Leena reminds me of the woman who put me through hell... until I finally rid myself of her... ((long story short, she had mental problems...literally...)) and Kid reminds me almost of my fiancee...)
Ignoring that, like I said before, pain can be beautiful... I like melancholia sometimes.
I'm considering writing a series of (extremely)short stories about some of the random possibilities of Chrono Cross...
And maybe I'll post them... if anyone's interested, you can look me up on http://www.fanfiction.net/~satoh
though be warned, there MAY be mature content on one or two of them... and there's as of yet no Chrono stuff(because, hell, its hard to make a fic match the awesomeness of it)
And last but certainly not least, thank you both/all for the complements, and any criticism as well.
I'm working on getting a new pen for my tablet, apparently you can buy them separately from the manufacturer.... with a little palm grease... (actually I just emailed them asking for one and they said I could buy one.... XD)
But yeah... I've always felt there was a far stronger connection between Serge and Kid myself... but then again... people here have brought up the Serge, Kid, Leena conundrum.... (for me though, I see it this way... Leena reminds me of the woman who put me through hell... until I finally rid myself of her... ((long story short, she had mental problems...literally...)) and Kid reminds me almost of my fiancee...)
Ignoring that, like I said before, pain can be beautiful... I like melancholia sometimes.
I'm considering writing a series of (extremely)short stories about some of the random possibilities of Chrono Cross...
And maybe I'll post them... if anyone's interested, you can look me up on http://www.fanfiction.net/~satoh
though be warned, there MAY be mature content on one or two of them... and there's as of yet no Chrono stuff(because, hell, its hard to make a fic match the awesomeness of it)
And last but certainly not least, thank you both/all for the complements, and any criticism as well.
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Submissions / I was inspired into the Chrono fandom once again...
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:26:08 pm »
As it says, I've become addicted to the Chrono adventures yet again, do to this forum... As such I've begun playing CC again and I drew a crappy little pic in a crappy little drawing book....ok maybe it isn't... crappy... but I could have done better if I had spent more time on it... (also if I still had my tablet's pen >.<; )
And I colored it in Photoshop CS2
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And I colored it in Photoshop CS2
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Kajar Laboratories / Re: chrono trigger dubbed
« on: June 06, 2008, 06:33:04 pm »Ha! I really dig this kind of stuff. How many lines does Crono have? I suppose his lines will just be sound effects with the exception of the slideshow ending, should the team get that far.
I believe Crono has one line, in one of the endings, where Lucca makes up a story about him saying something to her.
As for sound effects, I don't think he has any... I could use the PSX scene of his death as evidence that even when screaming he is silent.... however... none of the characters "talked" in that game either so... it's conjecture at most.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Project Kid
« on: June 05, 2008, 07:23:22 pm »
I realize I'm new and I've screwed up a few theories already, but that's what the FAQ is for ne?
Perhaps some of the entries are less clear than they could be... (simply one more reason I botched my hair dye comment...maybe?)
Perhaps some of the entries are less clear than they could be... (simply one more reason I botched my hair dye comment...maybe?)
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: The Red Lucca Gate
« on: June 05, 2008, 05:31:17 am »
As I said, it isn't necessarily a working theory, just something I came up with spur-of-the-moment... If I wanted to I could research the scenes leading up to, during and after, and come up with evidence... but at the moment I'm struggling with my chrono cross discs...