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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Why are you here?

« on: April 02, 2009, 01:12:45 am »

I found CT after learning Akira Toriyama did the character designs. 'Nuff said. 

Heh, quite opposite for me.  I discovered Dragonball after learning it was made by the same guy who designed the characters for CT.

same deal. except i got really bored with dragonball really quick. ok lucca doesn't have glasses, magus is green, frog is just a bald guy, and goku has no sword but does have a funky luminaire that he throws at people and EVERYONE IS CONSTIPATED so i stopped watching after frieza (freeza? sp?)

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General Discussion / Re: The $%*! frustration thread

« on: March 30, 2009, 02:46:02 pm »

[. . .] and having an MRE for dinner after skipping breakfast and lunch.

OUCH.  That does suck.  Haha, and the hunger still didn't make it taste better?

Smoking pot would probably make it taste better, haha. Or at least it may make you THINK it tastes better. But seeing as you're obviously eating MRE's against your will, I'd say weed is not an option.

Try beer. If possible.

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Polling / Re: what would be the lamest retcon ever?

« on: March 30, 2009, 02:42:00 pm »

The lamest retcon would be if Guile turned out to be post-CT:DS Magus.

I like that one though. 

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Chrono Chastity

« on: March 30, 2009, 02:39:32 pm »

In my opinion, Ozzie wasn't a father figure to Magus

Not powerful adult Magus, but perhaps young impressionable Janus?

Ozzie was integral for Magus to wage the Mystic War and attain the resources he needed to achieve his goal,

Magus was integral for Ozzie to wage the Mystic War. Magus wasn't a Mystic, and if he never met Ozzie, he never would have waged war on anything. The war would still happen, the humans would just win sooner without the Mystics' strong leader.


I will give you that Magus is very self-restrained. He knows what he's capable of, and doesn't necessarily take advantage of that at every opportunity, so he probably wouldn't have raped anyone, all things considered.

Ozzie, Flea, and Slash, definitely rapists. And they probably raped Janus as a boy, or at least abused him. If they didn't then Ozzie would have had to make Janus want to stay with him, because even a kid knows how to run away from a stranger. That's where I was getting the whole father figure thing from. I suppose it depends on specifically how old Janus was during the Ocean Palace incident.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Questions for the Crimson Echoes team

« on: March 30, 2009, 12:19:57 am »

are there any plans to expand crimsonechoes.com?

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Chrono Chastity

« on: March 30, 2009, 12:18:09 am »

I'm assuming Ozzie would treat Magus the same as all his other prisoners when he first found the boy. When Magus becomes the leader of the Mystics, that is definitely not a tradition he would want to keep around.
It could go one of two ways, really. Magus could carry out his reign the same way he was raised and go on to rape, plunder and pillage. Or he would stamp that behaviour out of the Mystics as soon as he comes into power. Seeing as how he his one goal drives everything he does in the Middle Ages, he probably wouldn't give in to distractions like that.

ah yes, the town drunk had two sons. he raised them equally, and he died of his own alcohol abuse. one never touches a drop of alcohol his entire life, says he learned not to from his dad. the other becomes the father, essentially by becoming a drunk and eventually killing himself off, but before that he says he learned to drink from his dad.

this raises several questions that don't matter, like what about the king and queen zeal? what about schala and the gurus? they don't exist for this metaphor to work, the father is just ozzie.

the REAL question here: which son is magus?

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General Discussion / Re: The $%*! frustration thread

« on: March 30, 2009, 12:14:02 am »

However, now she continues to barge into my room. And I can't do the same to her. Because it's not nice. Even though my shit is in her room. It just makes me want to strangle her. Break her skinny little spine in half...

i had the same problem with my buddy/neighbor barging into my HOME whenever he felt like it. every time he'd be all "what were you jerkin it?" and i'd be all "no but i coulda been" till i just started locking my door and stopped answering it. i told him there was a new rule. call before you come over. it didn't keep him from trying, but he knew if he came over and the door was locked, he had to call. and even then, if i heard him touch that door at all, i'd let the phone just ring and ring.

cause fuck em. if they don't show you respect, they don't deserve respect. i'd reccomend getting your clothes out of her room if she continues the same behavior, and if you can't, just go in. all you have to do is shout the words "GOLDEN RULE" every time, which can be used doubly as a warning and a justification.

just a suggestion. good luck with that!

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Submissions / Re: Chrono Cuddly!

« on: March 29, 2009, 02:54:42 pm »

do it.

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Polling / Re: Worst Sequel Ever!

« on: March 29, 2009, 02:17:51 pm »

HA-HA. YES-OF-COURSE-THAT-WOULD-BE-HILARIOUS-LOL.
NOT-A-PROGRAM.
NOT-A-PROGRAM.
NOT-A-PROGRAM.
NOT-A-PROGRAM.
NOT-A-PROGRAM.

Coming soon...
Chrono Cuddly! Play through an all new adventure of Chrono with a brand new plot, the same cast as the original game, but now an evil being has changed them all... INTO PANDAS! Cute, fuzzy wuzzy pandas! Crono and his katana claws! Frog with the Masabamboo! Ayla with a body slam! Marle with the Crossboo! Lucca is still smart and is a koala instead! Robo has fake paws that are actually laser beams! And Magus is Black Bear but still has his awesome long flowing bluish hair! Coming out for the Nintendo Wii, Xbox 360, and the Playstation 3 September 18 2010. Hits Europe two weeks later and US shores recieve this a month later than the Japanese release date.
...
Now I'm determined to make art of this.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Chrono Chastity

« on: March 29, 2009, 01:47:46 pm »

in the same world we're talking about, where sex is prevalent in the chronoverse, yes. the porreans did rape guardians. however, not ALL the porreans raped people. and not ALL the guardians got raped. some just got killed.

Cyrus's murder was a way to secure power and a way to discourage other opponents .

so is rape.

I guess this is where our disagreement stems from--I don't see rape as a way to secure power. It's a form of dominance, yes, but I see Cyrus's murder as a way for Magus to show his superiority towards Ozzie. I don't think Magus could show that through rape. By killing Cyrus he proved that he could be a ruthless leader and that he was truly the demagogue the Mystics needed.

very true. we just don't know what happened behind closed doors. while you bring up an interesting point that magus would look up to ozzie, and feel like he has to prove himself (which makes sense if you consider ozzie to be magus's father figure, so says freud), i had'nt thought about it like that and rather found magus and ozzie to see each other as equals, or at least equally respected/feared. i'd picture, before crono&co got there, that 600ad magus' castle looked similar to jabba the hut's lair, in that there would be prisoners of war, scantily clad and fearing for life, as well as people on his side, scantily clad and sitting around. why? because it's what i've seen and jabba and ozzie are both big fat reptilian baddies. that would make magus boba fett though. 

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Dream Devourer ending links Magus to Guile?

« on: March 29, 2009, 01:09:21 pm »

We believe he's searching for Schala.

But we don't know.

Also, Schala may just be a symbol of a different life for him. The thing he may be looking for is simply his past. Including Schala and Zeal and maybe even Alfador and the Gurus. It may be his humanity. The distinction between a thing and a person isn't too big to say they're not connected.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Chrono Chastity

« on: March 29, 2009, 12:53:51 pm »

I was talking to FouCapitan, not you.

my bad.

not all murderers are rapists, and that's that.

not all rectangles are squares but all squares are rectangles. i know. you know

Cyrus's murder was a way to secure power and a way to discourage other opponents .

so is rape.

it's still not worth debating this long. we see the character differently. i think that's cool. the whole game is able to be interpreted a bunch of ways, and that was kinda the point.

It's all an academic discussion, however, because canonically there's no chance of it whatsoever. History has to be highly sterilized in order to avoid drawing attention to itself in the context of an adventure story like Chrono Trigger. No character who would become playable would ever have been implied to be a rapist in a sanitary game like this.

emphasis quote. in game, no he could not rape anyone. impossible. because we had censorship. hell, there's not even blood in the battles, the dead badguys just disintegrate and diffuse into the air.

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General Discussion / Re: Animation pains and rules!

« on: March 29, 2009, 11:53:07 am »

very well done! keep it up.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Chrono Chastity

« on: March 29, 2009, 11:25:20 am »

the murder i'm using for comparison is cyrus.

and there IS a difference between killing and murdering.

magus did both.

i understand you guys don't agree with me. but there's not much evidence one way or the other. we may as well be debating the existence of god.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Chrono Chastity

« on: March 29, 2009, 01:48:12 am »

you bring up a better point. there IS a lot we don't know about magil AND guile. maybe they were rapists.

but really, the thread is about fantasy characters and whether they've experienced the act of intercourse, when the closest thing to sex mentioned in the game is married couples talking about whether they're having kids. it's my opinion that if it were a real world, most of them would not be virgins. simply because sex is something people do. and often.

magus is evil so when it comes to sex, either it's rape or it's not happening. that's just my opinion. magil and guile are not intended to be targets, because i honestly don't think it would hurt either of their characters. no more than would the fact that magus was a killer. a murderer.

i've known people who have been raped. i've known people who have been murdered. the ones who were raped are still here. most of them learn eventually that things can be good. the point is they're alive. it's just as scary, but i'd say a murderer is worse than a rapist in terms of name-calling. you say i am calling guile and magil rapists? i disagree. i call them guilty souls, formerly corrupted by power. whatever that corruption manifested itself as. i'm not saying you're wrong for your opinion, but you know he's a killer, is being a rapist really that much worse? at most, they're equally terrible.