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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Character Trust
« on: August 03, 2004, 11:02:39 pm »
Here's a question that lies behind almost all of the theories and analysis posted on this site:
Can we trust everything we're told by characters within the games?
We can probably trust almost all of it--these characters' shpeils (sp? Is there even a correct spelling?) are often the ways the producers and writers reveal the plot us; sometimes in an uncharacteristic manner (Kid in Chronopolis), sometimes appearing for no other purpose (Crono, Marle, and Lucca at the end of CC). These cases we can almost definitely trust.
Other conversations are less trustworthy. For instance, when Serge talks to Belthasar, Belthasar's plan has not yet been completely fulfilled, so he may have reason to lie to Serge so Serge will take the correct actions.
Can we trust everything we're told by characters within the games?
We can probably trust almost all of it--these characters' shpeils (sp? Is there even a correct spelling?) are often the ways the producers and writers reveal the plot us; sometimes in an uncharacteristic manner (Kid in Chronopolis), sometimes appearing for no other purpose (Crono, Marle, and Lucca at the end of CC). These cases we can almost definitely trust.
Other conversations are less trustworthy. For instance, when Serge talks to Belthasar, Belthasar's plan has not yet been completely fulfilled, so he may have reason to lie to Serge so Serge will take the correct actions.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Beyond Time - Outline and the Bend of Time [FINISHED]
« on: June 21, 2004, 07:50:36 pm »
This is where I'll be working on my article, "Beyond Time" which covers places outside the normal boundaries of time, and how temporal mechanics apply to them. So far, it's just an outline; I'll be working on it from here. Note that I'll be making edits to this post without specifically marking "Edit."
UPDATE: I've decided that since this article is so big (or will be), I'll split it up between threads to better organize any commentary.
A. Introduction
Note: Certain quotes have been edited for spelling and grammar and truncated from their original versions. This is done to facilitate the reading of this article, and it is not my intention to misrepresent the quotees in any way.
B. Mechanics
--I. Standard Time (ST)
--II. Time-Error (TE)
--III. Mixed (M)
C. Locations
--I. The End of Time
----1. Mechanics - TE
----2. Nature - Spacetime point of least resistance; connects to all time portals. Probably QC-like.
----3. Residents
------a. Gaspar - Guru of Zeal; sent here after Lavos encounter. Holds Time Egg (Chrono Trigger). [Name Gaspar derived from one of three wise men in Christian Bible]
------b. Spekkio - Calls self God of War; teaches magic. Strength proportional to that of opponents. Possibly Nu, natural phenomenon, or embodiment of magic. [Name Spekkio derived from Latin "Specchio" for "Mirror"]
--II. Lavos' Pocket Dimension
----1. Mechanics - TE
----2. Nature - Area of space outside the timeline created by Lavos, allowing him access to all time periods.
----3. Residents
------a. Lavos
--III. The Black Omen
----1. Mechanics - M (Certain creatures and the structure progress through time normally, other creatures progress through Time-Error instead)
----2. Nature - Formerly the Ocean Palace, empowered by contact with Lavos via the Mammon Machine. Contact with Lavos has caused miscellaneous temporal disruptions.
----3. Residents
------a. Queen Zeal - Queen of the Kingdom of Zeal who used the Mammon Machine to try to drain Lavos' energy, resulting in Zeal's destruction.
------b. The Mammon Machine - Machine created by Queen Zeal to drain Lavos' energy.
------c. Nu - Two Nu mysteriously exist here. They were possibly in the Ocean Palace when it rose.
--IV. The Temporal Vortex
----1. Mechanics - ST
----2. Nature - Appears to be two-dimensional, either an impressionist painting or a drawing of M.C. Escher. Referred to as "The place where lost souls wander." Probably QC-like. Possibly the gap between Home and Another.
----3. Residents
------a. Sprigg - Mysterious woman capable of morphing into monsters.
--V. The Bend of Time
----1. Mechanics - ST
----2. Nature - Architecture and design similar to EoT, minus Spekkio's room; contains gates allowing battle with various monsters; possibly decommissioned EoT or dimensional equivalent of EoT. Possibly QC-like.
----3. Residents
------a. Octopus - Next to nothing known; mentions "God of War"
------b. Ozzie, Slash, and Flea - Famous villains from CT; possibly arrived after events in 600 AD. in CT due to some teleporting error; possibly replicas (created by Octopus?)
--VI. The Dead Sea
----1. Mechanics - ST
----2. Nature
----3. Residents
------a. Miguel
------b. Ghosts of Crono, Marle, and Lucca
--VII. The Darkness Beyond Time
----1. Mechanics - TE
----2. Nature - Repository for discarded time strands.
----3. Residents
------a. Time Devourer/Schala - Evolved being created by merger of Schala and Lavos; intends to devour all timestreams.
Please respond if you notice any obvious flaws or ommissions. For arguments on theories, respond to the applicable post in the Analysis thread.
UPDATE: I've decided that since this article is so big (or will be), I'll split it up between threads to better organize any commentary.
A. Introduction
Note: Certain quotes have been edited for spelling and grammar and truncated from their original versions. This is done to facilitate the reading of this article, and it is not my intention to misrepresent the quotees in any way.
B. Mechanics
--I. Standard Time (ST)
--II. Time-Error (TE)
--III. Mixed (M)
C. Locations
--I. The End of Time
----1. Mechanics - TE
----2. Nature - Spacetime point of least resistance; connects to all time portals. Probably QC-like.
----3. Residents
------a. Gaspar - Guru of Zeal; sent here after Lavos encounter. Holds Time Egg (Chrono Trigger). [Name Gaspar derived from one of three wise men in Christian Bible]
------b. Spekkio - Calls self God of War; teaches magic. Strength proportional to that of opponents. Possibly Nu, natural phenomenon, or embodiment of magic. [Name Spekkio derived from Latin "Specchio" for "Mirror"]
--II. Lavos' Pocket Dimension
----1. Mechanics - TE
----2. Nature - Area of space outside the timeline created by Lavos, allowing him access to all time periods.
----3. Residents
------a. Lavos
--III. The Black Omen
----1. Mechanics - M (Certain creatures and the structure progress through time normally, other creatures progress through Time-Error instead)
----2. Nature - Formerly the Ocean Palace, empowered by contact with Lavos via the Mammon Machine. Contact with Lavos has caused miscellaneous temporal disruptions.
----3. Residents
------a. Queen Zeal - Queen of the Kingdom of Zeal who used the Mammon Machine to try to drain Lavos' energy, resulting in Zeal's destruction.
------b. The Mammon Machine - Machine created by Queen Zeal to drain Lavos' energy.
------c. Nu - Two Nu mysteriously exist here. They were possibly in the Ocean Palace when it rose.
--IV. The Temporal Vortex
----1. Mechanics - ST
----2. Nature - Appears to be two-dimensional, either an impressionist painting or a drawing of M.C. Escher. Referred to as "The place where lost souls wander." Probably QC-like. Possibly the gap between Home and Another.
----3. Residents
------a. Sprigg - Mysterious woman capable of morphing into monsters.
--V. The Bend of Time
----1. Mechanics - ST
----2. Nature - Architecture and design similar to EoT, minus Spekkio's room; contains gates allowing battle with various monsters; possibly decommissioned EoT or dimensional equivalent of EoT. Possibly QC-like.
----3. Residents
------a. Octopus - Next to nothing known; mentions "God of War"
------b. Ozzie, Slash, and Flea - Famous villains from CT; possibly arrived after events in 600 AD. in CT due to some teleporting error; possibly replicas (created by Octopus?)
--VI. The Dead Sea
----1. Mechanics - ST
----2. Nature
----3. Residents
------a. Miguel
------b. Ghosts of Crono, Marle, and Lucca
--VII. The Darkness Beyond Time
----1. Mechanics - TE
----2. Nature - Repository for discarded time strands.
----3. Residents
------a. Time Devourer/Schala - Evolved being created by merger of Schala and Lavos; intends to devour all timestreams.
Please respond if you notice any obvious flaws or ommissions. For arguments on theories, respond to the applicable post in the Analysis thread.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / The Bend of Time
« on: June 19, 2004, 07:39:18 pm »
Alright, I'm gathering data for my "Beyond Time" (Working title) article, covering places outside the normal scope of time (such as the End of Time), or which don't behave by the same rules across time periods (such as the Black Omen). The only place not covered in other threads is the Bend of Time, so I'm starting this thread for any theories on its nature, creation, purpose, etc. Post any and all theories and questions here.