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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CT:DS Sales Numbers
« on: February 25, 2009, 01:24:54 pm »
No one seemed to have updated the european sales. Anyone knows where you can actually check that?

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Can someone explain to me what this ultimania is suppose to be? From what I understand from the chrono cross ultimania, its kind of like an art book with additional side notes the creator put in as to why or why not this design was used. I'm guessing its "offically" made.

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Ok, so to review, what could have happend to Melchior.

One major issue is, does he even remember the events of CT during 12,000 BC, or does he forget due to time bastard?

I do think this would greatly influence what he would do during 1005AD, but seeing where he is at the end of CT, I do not think it matters overall.

Is he already dead?

Although some of you believe he is, and it is possible he might have had horrible health, I somehow doubt he kicks the bucket in five years. Maybe in twenty. He did not seem to be in bad health.

Lucca burns orphans as part of her plan :?? "How the hell did we get there? :shock:"

We really need a sequel.

A new question just came to mind, when did Melchior appear from the gate? I doubt he built a house and several dozen swords to sell at the fair in less then a few days.

My guess is that he would have been there for  [600AD Magus's age] minus [12000BC Janus's age] amount of time.
So if Magus is like 32 and Janus was 8 when he was sent back in time, it would be 24 years.

It makes sense: by the time Crono meets Belthasar, he is pretty much on the point of death.
Melchior has a house and seems to be accustomed to a whole new way of life.
Can't say much for Gaspar, the EoT is strange.

And I don't believe Melchior recalls the new version of 12000BC, unless you don't like using TTI and TB.

That cake was sitting there for 24 years? I'm glad I never ate it :p. Anyway, now that brings another question, how old was Magus? I always assumed he was in his mid twenties, since most Jrpgs have a taboo for having someone older then 25 as a main character.

Anyway, true, Belthasar was indeed at the point of death, I have actually considered this, however, he was also alone and was starting to go senile/insane possibly due to loneliness "or how Cross puts it, he always was insane :p". He might have been in the future, but most of the equipment there where well worn/rusted, not to mention the possibility he may have developed other medical problems that could have surfaced in the diseased ridden future, that leaves you hungry  :lol:. "How Crono and Co didn't get sick or without mutating we may never know :p ." Melchior on the other hand, did have access too physicians. Granted  we don't know how well doctors in that time line could cure people with ethers  :), or if magical spells like cure work outside restoring hit points.

Also, that Belthasar in Cross was indeed able to live healthy for some time in 2300AD "they probably cured cancer by then". He also seemed to have access to better equipment. Granted he might have simply built the Neo Epoch and began warping through time almost immediately.

The thing I find confusing about Melchior is that he never says about remembering the new or old events. If you did indeed change his history, and there by changing his memories, he might have remember telling you all about it, or even asking you questions about saving him when you did see him "for the first time".

I actually think time travel immunity applies here. What I mean is, Crono talks to Melchior at the fair about, lets say swords, Crono goes back in time and changes 12,000 bc, Crono comes back to the present, but Melchior doesn't mention it because now that Crono has changed the past, back then when Crono was at the fair buying swords from Melchior, Melchior  did ask or tell him about 12,000bc, and since he had already asked, he would have no reason to bring it up again. Crono, under TTI and TB, would not remember this conversation.

Although, the real solution to this probably was the fact there where several writers each with their idea of time travel.... So time it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey.

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Submissions / Re: Robo/R66-Y CG Cinematic
« on: January 08, 2009, 12:20:50 pm »
How long did it take you to make that Robo model?

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Ok, so to review, what could have happend to Melchior.

One major issue is, does he even remember the events of CT during 12,000 BC, or does he forget due to time bastard?

I do think this would greatly influence what he would do during 1005AD, but seeing where he is at the end of CT, I do not think it matters overall.

Is he already dead?

Although some of you believe he is, and it is possible he might have had horrible health, I somehow doubt he kicks the bucket in five years. Maybe in twenty. He did not seem to be in bad health.

Lucca burns orphans as part of her plan :?? "How the hell did we get there? :shock:"

We really need a sequel.

A new question just came to mind, when did Melchior appear from the gate? I doubt he built a house and several dozen swords to sell at the fair in less then a few days.

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Do you mean Mechior was supposed to be warped instead of just disappear?

Nah, just that...it seems Kato took time traveling more seriously. In an interview, Horii said that he was a big fan of the TV show Time Tunnel, and mentioned how he was fascinated by things like going back in the past and interfering with your own personal past, which = grandfather paradox. Which the rest of the Chrono series doesn't use, so we take Kato's logic over Horii & Toriyama's.

I wasn't aware Toriyama actually wrote any of the stories.

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Although it would be beneficial if he did remember what happened in 12,000 BC when Crono and Co went through there, do you think overall it would matter in the case of him helping Guardia?

It seems to me that In the end Melchior would still side with Crono, if not because of his generosity with them throughout the game, but because we could most likely guess that Dalton was a jerk before hand too. How "evil" of a jerk before hand who knows.

Also, do you think he gave hand in helping Belthasar during Cross?

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Screenshot or he's just a traveler who saved the future.

Also, Kid is actually the daughter clone of Doctor who, and goes by the name of Jenny on the main land.
 

In all honesty though the worst part is that when a new Chrono is released it will probably bring more questions then answers. If it takes place chronologically after Chrono Cross then I don't see much of those mysteries between CT and CC being explained. Now if it happens following CT or in the years between CT and CC then we might get some answers... or we might not as the timeline may have changed in ways we haven't yet seen (we still have no idea what the ideal world ended up being or if the time traveling events of CC were retained).

If they where to make a sequel, I would hope they would they would place it in the new time line, but back between CT and CC.... AND AFTER CC WITH WHEN YOU TRAVEL FOWARD IN TIME!!!

If they don't have it in the new universe, it would seem like CC never happened. Unless at the end of that game, after beating down Dalton "Wild guess here" and ending the war, there is a huge white light, and your standing in a completely peaceful, non war-torn field, with some blond girl in a white dress and a pink bow walking by the camera.

Its been ten years since the last Chrono game, They usually like to do things by 5s, since that is when we heard about Chrono Break. If anything, I will hope for an announcement this year. After this year though, I will go back to assume they gave up again.


To run off of Art's idea, after the fall of Guardia she may have had no choice but to sell weapons to Porre, after all they must realize how dangerous her technology could be. If she wasn't aiding them I would bet she would have been imprisoned and the orphanage closed down, and Lucca wouldn't have let that happen. Even if she had to work for the 'bad guys' to save her kids she would.

That seems more likely, minus the letting them burn part :p, however she probably didn't even know there where kids hiding in those places.

Yea this is right.  Shadow D. Darkman's version sounded like a reverse-time bastard idea (i.e. the original Melchior is replaced by the new one).  

Funny story though, the Frog/Queen Leene ending is almost an example of reverse-time bastard:

When Marle exits the gate, she already bears the frog genes that she didn't originally have.  Even though it is a joke ending, it's just funny that there is more "highlighted evidence" for the opposite of Time Bastard.

Even stranger is that I argued awhile ago that Marle was reverse-TB'ed in 600AD....

So are you saying he would probably remember Crono afterward, or that he wouldn't? If we go off that theory?

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Doctor Who is FULL OF WIN. I loved the one with the television parasite (around the 50s I think) b/c when the control freak father goes "I... AM... TALKING!!!" and the Doctor goes "AND I'M NOT LISTENING!!!"

FULL OF WIN.

Seriously.

On that subject, Crono is actually a Time Lord.

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It has been said that the Melchior you meet on the Mountain of Woe gets a taste of Time Bastard alongside Young Janus.

Personally, I don't believe it.

I believe the black portal sent them to the times that they were supposed to be sent to, thus preserving the flow of time. Melchior was sent to Medina, where he became a swordsmith. Janus was sent to 600 A.D. where he would grow up and become Magus.

It counteracts the fact that if they weren't sent back, then Melchior would not be there to be mentioned by the two imps you meet in Medina, nor repair the Grandleon, and Fiendlord Magus would never exist.

However, if Melchior and Janus DID cease to exist because of Time Bastard, then their memories must be transferred to the originals who assisted Crono in his adventures, otherwise it would result in a paradox asking why Melchior doesn't remember meeting Crono in Zeal when he clearly did, and did not go nuts like Belthasar did in the ruined future, and why Magus doesn't recall Crono coming to Schala's aid in her time of need. IMO, Time Traveler's Immunity only prevents what has already happened from not happening, such as Magus not suddenly forgetting that Crono died, despite witnessing the event. Though Janus did not witness it, Magus did.

This is all well and good, however, in ether case, if Melchior didn't remember who they where, vs if he did, in the end he seems to be friendly with them regardless. Perhaps if he didn't remember, he might not be so willing to make 20 more rainbow swords and armor for their army, however, if that was the case, then Dalton wouldn't really have any problems with them ether. The relationship between Melchior and Dalton before the events of Trigger are unknown, but I would guess he was probably around the same type of person. That is of course, if the gate Dalton went through didn't have its own set of rules.

I assumed he did remember after you changed they past, but then again, maybe he didn't.

To quote Doctor Who "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff."

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Speaking of which, does anyone know where you can get the cutsence version of that song?

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In CT, when I first played it in 95, Heckran, later when I replayed the game, I didn't have much problems.

In CC, any boss that had instead death attacks. I mean seriously, how fair is it that my guys at full health all died in one attack because of it  :x Other then that, pretty smooth sailing.

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Melchior surely died of alcohol overdose after Crono and Marle's wedding. And the mastermind behind that is no one other than Lucca, who exchanged the content of Melchior's bottle from wine to pure, 96-degree alcohol.

Aside from where this topic is going -  :picardno

I really did have a good laugh from that post.

I would be more mad that we turn the topic into how burning orphans can accomplish anything, if it was not so hilarious. Seriously though.

Melchior..... What happened?

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Melchior surely died of alcohol overdose after Crono and Marle's wedding. And the mastermind behind that is no one other than Lucca, who exchanged the content of Melchior's bottle from wine to pure, 96-degree alcohol.

GASP, I just had a revelation. The FMV on the playstation cutsence that shows 1005 AD. It was infact the same day that Marle and Crono got Married. It was supprise attack, Lucca began to burn everyone, since everyone had been occupied with the wedding, and everyone one was in one place. Lucca was indeed as cunning as she was evil  :shock: .

ALL ACCORDING TO HER PLAN Oh-ho-ho-ho!!!! Foolish orphans your where nothing but fuel for my plan, NOW BURN. I always found it ironic that Lucca's house burnt down, Lucca, who used fire magic........ Did Lynx start the fire? Did he really? I remember one theory some said she jumped out the window that Harle and Lynx was looking out.

Its fun to scrutinize characters into villains :p .

In the script a kid says Lucca escaped through a trap door with Kid. A door she told no one else about. Because she wanted them DEAD. The fire thing is just icing on the cake.

...actually, since you went back in time and saved several orphans from a firey doom... how come Kid didn't suddenly have a few new friends and companions?

I believe in an interview with one of the game designer, since Kid was the last one you rescued, she didn't see anyone else get saved and assumed the worse, also, some children did die.

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Don't tell me the whole orphanage thing was for...
YES It was!

As for Melchior, maybe he was in Medina all the time, but even I doubt he would have been alive that long after.

I'm going to give his health more credit then less then five years.  He was pretty old though. :p

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