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Fan Project News/Updates / Re: Chrono Crisis Update
« on: April 23, 2006, 09:03:00 pm »
Now that you mention it, I can very much see the ToD influence. Good call.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 23, 2006, 08:41:42 pm »
The only thing I was calling insolent was the "kthxbai" comment. It's unecessary and makes me feel like he was trying to call me a n00b. Every other response I find valid and appreciate.
I can't respond to any posts right now, but I will later. Also, I'm kind of curious as to what Zeality has to say about this, since he hasn't posted yet.
I can't respond to any posts right now, but I will later. Also, I'm kind of curious as to what Zeality has to say about this, since he hasn't posted yet.
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Fan Project News/Updates / Re: Chrono Crisis Update
« on: April 23, 2006, 08:37:00 pm »
The menu is breathtaking for a fan made RPG. I'm absolutely speechless.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 23, 2006, 05:15:27 pm »
I had a feeling someone would say that. But I do have proof. As I said, the Frozen Flame in Radical Dreamers looks exactly like a Dreamstone. Dreamstone is also used in the making of the Mammon Machine which is used to commune with Lavos, as is the Frozen Flame. Also, Ultimania says that Dreamstone and the Frozen Flame are one in the same. That's three fairly solid reasons to believe this theory.
Please don't be insolent. It's so pointless.
Please don't be insolent. It's so pointless.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 23, 2006, 04:22:07 pm »
You've got to keep in mind that when Lavos lands we so no evidence of anything, really. We just see the innitial explosion. We don't see any tunneling going on either, but it's obvious he's done it.
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General Discussion / Re: The Chrono Compendium - <you fill the slogan>
« on: April 23, 2006, 03:45:35 pm »
The Chrono Compendium - Now with 50% more Com
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 23, 2006, 03:28:25 pm »
While the impact, in retrospect, was much less severe than it could have been, it was strong enough to obliterate the plateau that the Tyranno Lair was on, cause a massive explosion, and create a gigantic crator. That could be enough to warrant some pieces of Lavos flying every which way. Not to mention, he does have the ability to shed parts of him. Such as his quills. These things together seem to me to make it feasable that the collision could have spread Dreamstone about the Planet.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 23, 2006, 02:47:13 pm »
That could be valid if you had any proof of that whatsoever. But it's pure speculation.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 23, 2006, 12:30:20 pm »
Lots more response today. Before I start replying, I'd like to point out that this is of course only a theory based on the appearance and abilities of Dreamstone, coupled with Ultimania saying Dreamstone and the Frozen Flame being one in the same. Now then.
The weapon name translations I did not know. While it is perhaps a possibility that they are nothing but names, I guess this stands as one of the best obscure arguments against this. However, it's possible that many Dreamstones fell to the Planet in meteor showeresque fashion.
That's simply the way she makes it sound. If it were extremely abundant, why would she only have the one? And yes, far-fetched maybe. But so is a large parasite from space falling to a planet and slowly devouring it over the period of 65,000,000+ years. I say Dreamstone falling to the Planet is just as reasonable as Lavos falling to it.
Lucca: We'd love to go, but we've got to look for the Dreamstone now.
Ayla: Stone? Plenty stones! Here, there, at village. You take plenty.
Crono come, Ioka village this way.
The word "Dreamstone" wasn't used by Ioka. That name probably came about more around 12,000 BC. All Ayla heard was that they were looking for some manner of stone. So she said there were lots of stones at the village. Cause well, there probably are lots of stones at the village. Not Red Rocks though.
You're right, that does sound a bit out there. I phrased that incorrectly. I wasn't assuming that the Dreamstone in CT could have some way been used to contact Lavos or grant any special powers if that's what you were thinking. Of course all I meant was that Dreamstone fell from Lavos. But what you said explains what I meant better. The Frozen Flame was a special kind of Dreamstone.
Err.. I'm pretty sure that more or less covers all the replies. Remember, it's only a theory based on those three things stated at the top. Please try not being too harsh.
She didn't have the only Dreamstone, in fact there seemed to be quite a few around and they made weapons out of it:
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dream_Bow
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dream_gun
Check the translation of the japanese weapon.
The weapon name translations I did not know. While it is perhaps a possibility that they are nothing but names, I guess this stands as one of the best obscure arguments against this. However, it's possible that many Dreamstones fell to the Planet in meteor showeresque fashion.
Ayla says that the "Rare Red Rock" is hers, so that means its the only one on the planet at that time? What sort of logic is that. Also, the idea that a chunk of Dreamstone just happend to fall of a Lavoid, and then just happend to land on Earth, is a really far-fetched idea.
Dreamstone is probably a naturally forming mineral, but a mineral that is not exclusive to Earth.
That's simply the way she makes it sound. If it were extremely abundant, why would she only have the one? And yes, far-fetched maybe. But so is a large parasite from space falling to a planet and slowly devouring it over the period of 65,000,000+ years. I say Dreamstone falling to the Planet is just as reasonable as Lavos falling to it.
Yes, and also, Ayla says that there's plenty of stones, and that she'd give her own one to Crono if he beat her in the soup eating compitition.
Lucca: We'd love to go, but we've got to look for the Dreamstone now.
Ayla: Stone? Plenty stones! Here, there, at village. You take plenty.
Crono come, Ioka village this way.
The word "Dreamstone" wasn't used by Ioka. That name probably came about more around 12,000 BC. All Ayla heard was that they were looking for some manner of stone. So she said there were lots of stones at the village. Cause well, there probably are lots of stones at the village. Not Red Rocks though.
The fact that a Dreamstone is a Frozen Flame is also helped along by the fact that the Frozen Flame in Radical Dreamers looks exactly like a Dreamstone.This is quite illogical. You CAN assume that the Frozen Flame is a (special) Dreamstone, but how can you say that Dreamstones are all Frozen Flames? The Dreamstones seen in CT clearly have none of the Flame's power.
You're right, that does sound a bit out there. I phrased that incorrectly. I wasn't assuming that the Dreamstone in CT could have some way been used to contact Lavos or grant any special powers if that's what you were thinking. Of course all I meant was that Dreamstone fell from Lavos. But what you said explains what I meant better. The Frozen Flame was a special kind of Dreamstone.
Err.. I'm pretty sure that more or less covers all the replies. Remember, it's only a theory based on those three things stated at the top. Please try not being too harsh.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 22, 2006, 11:23:42 pm »
Now keep in mind I said only one at the time. Of course, due to the fact Lavos had yet to land, this could be the case. However, of course, once Lavos landed, his collision undoubtadely caused many fragments to scatter. Not to mention that with Zeal's link to Lavos, it might have been possible to in some way "request" more Dreamstone.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?
« on: April 22, 2006, 10:56:41 pm »
Out of curiousity, why is Dreamstone labelled a naturally occuring substance? Ayla says it herself. "Rare, red rock sign of power. Ayla strongest in Ioka village. So Ayla's rock!" This would make one think that the red rock in Ayla's possession is most certainly not naturally occuring and at that time, the only one around. As such, it seems feasable that Dreamstone is indeed a sort of Frozen Flame. The one thing that contradicts this theory is of course, how did it come to be on the Planet before Lavos' arrival. But that itself is also fairly easy to explain. It could simply have fallen off a Lavoid and travelled to the Planet. The fact that a Dreamstone is a Frozen Flame is also helped along by the fact that the Frozen Flame in Radical Dreamers looks exactly like a Dreamstone. The Frozen Flame in Chrono Cross is probably a part of Lavos that he intentionally shed so that whoever touched it first would become Arbiter, while Dreamstone is probably an untintentional shedding.
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