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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 11, 2018, 07:17:15 pm »

I refuse to be your example, your whipping boy. I refuse to just lay down and die as you do this to me. I provided to eternity. I spoke with truth about a matter of time and space, my expertise. I gave quality material befitting this place and what it was created for. I have not done, as others have done; as ThatGuy has done; as you have done; and tore apart what others loved of this place.

I refuse to let you not be haunted by this encounter. You just over-stepped and miscalculated on an epic proportion.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 11, 2018, 07:14:45 pm »

You have done nothing to provide a safe place for people to communicate here. You have done nothing to actually help give people a place where they can rationally and reasonable come together and you expect me to respect you and the bullshit rules you choose when and where to enforce. I refuse. You aren't worth respecting. You will regret this.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 11, 2018, 07:12:45 pm »

But, I want whoever will view this between now and when you VIOLATE me by removing the evidence to view it. To know what went down here, for what it is worth.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 11, 2018, 07:11:59 pm »

I'll repeat it: ThatGuy is a fucking moron. I told him to shut his fucking stupid mouth because he is wrong. As a place that discusses time travel and alternate reality as THEORY, I provided proof as a philosopher as my thesis. He contributed nothing and tried to shut me down. How is that BULLSHIT acceptable and my response not?

Note that I'm not crying, I'm just making it easier for your worthless ass to ban me and get it done with.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 11, 2018, 07:10:18 pm »

This is a reminder for all users that we do have a Charter with a Code of Conduct. Please be courteous to one another and respectful.

Your code of conduct doesn't cover; conveniently; what was done to me. And, I doubt you care, but many others do, how I've gone throughout my past ten years on the internet actually having complaints that administrators like yourself should have addressed and didn't. I do take personal umbrage against this as you administrate me because you view me to be 'easy', instead of actually doing your job.

You're a piece of shit and a waste of flesh and I'm going to be laughing as the things that 'don't exist' cause you pain for this.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 11, 2018, 07:08:15 pm »

This is a reminder for all users that we do have a Charter with a Code of Conduct. Please be courteous to one another and respectful.

Fuck you and fuck your piece of shit life. I'm not going to bother to sit here and explain myself or ask for understanding from a spoiled ass piece of shit admin like you.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 10, 2018, 05:47:03 pm »

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 08, 2018, 02:58:36 pm »

I don't think you understand.

The original timeline, aka the Lavos timeline, was what was there before Crono and co. started time travelling. In it, Lavos destroys the world. In it, Nadia was found by whoever (not Crono and co.). In it, Marle was never mistaken for Leene.

And... in it...

Crono and co. never defended Zenan bridge!

So, assuming that without Crono and co. the Mystics would have taken the bridge (which is not a wild assumption at all, in fact, it seems almost certain), the original timeline would have seen the Mystics taking the bridge.

When dealing with the original aka Lavos timeline... time travel is irrelevant. Because in it, there was no time travel.

In the original timeline, Chrono and Co. defended the bridge before they went back in time to defend the bridge.

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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Re: How did lavos absorb DNA?

« on: February 04, 2018, 05:28:09 pm »

I suppose only Lavos could tell you for sure which senses it used, if it had ever thought to consider that or analyze it at all. I've 'seen' several ways that things that don't exist by societal standards have shown me in my minds eye, but each things walk in existence is its own and unique and while things are similar, how they play out is different due to the world, the 'laws' that govern it and how the 'magic' of reality works beyond our fantasy notions of magic.

I would say that it is obvious that Lavos does watch. When you fight the Final Battle with it down under all of its armor, it flashes through time periods during the fight, a form of illusion painting the picture. Perhaps along with illusions and others means, it also relies on senses we, as humans, rely on beyond sight, hearing, etc. Without going too much in detail, it IS a creature caught, but not stuck, in a time loop where he transcends all time periods just because he is in one, like the Black Omen. Otherwise, you could kill him in the future and still go back in time, era by era, and kill him over and over.

That, in itself has him existing within his own form of 'black hole', but not what we view as a black hole or any form of wormhole. It shows when you face him a couple ways that he is just resting in a cave, not a space all its own, but under the shell exists an air that could have its own time bubble, much like the End of Time, but still different all the same. And then, There's Lavos itself having all that time in that time loop to learn how to use abilities beyond fighting to pierce the universal mind and learn from countless things like The Matrix. It's even possible for it to have 'samples' of cell tissue and particles from every living thing to be brought to it through wormholes, causing no actual damage to anything. Not osmosis, but an actual manipulating of reality to bring the matter to him and into himself.

Now, let's say that this is actually possible for some beings and see if you can extend beyond the barrier of disbelief. Already between Trigger and Cross, Lavos learns both of Time and Alternate realities and the co-relations between them, perhaps sees and experiences more than the limited game engines could fully bring out. In a vast omnireality with near-infinite amount of alternate realities for almost every decision, eventually securing a strong linear time line that can no longer be altered through time travel at all, because it has already been altered in ever conceivable manner. But, for a being going through it's linearity, like Lavos, it would be like entering past an event horizon and not seeing the inevitability of what the future forces the past to meet as it fulfills whatever purpose is fulfilled by its analyzing of time and space as it did and must then be given an exit, a beautiful death. Until it hit the point of Chrono killing it, it would not have been able to conceive of being able to be defeated by them, for the same reason that Sephiroth lost to Cloud even with Clouds lack of skill and ability to be on the level of a God, how when destiny and fate intertwine with free will, combatants are forced to meet in a middleground realm of 'fair fight' where they are simultaneously brought to a middle level between each, one a downward slipping towards the death they often wanted and the other an uphill battle into rising to their destiny to become the best fighter in their world.

Otherwise, with Sephiroth being able to keep them all immobile in the air would have proven for it to be impossible for them to actually kill him in a matching of skill; Lavos has to be the same. The choice to fight, the choice to enter into battle in terms of 'to the death'. Not just for the life of the planet, but for the sheer force of the warriors blood rising in them all and wanting to put it to the test, wanting to 'feel', to be 'alive', if only for a moment before their final death. The fact is that this can be evidenced in a lot of our different stories, so has an actual credibility to the concept. It is literally how Goku in Dragon Ball Z met all of his enemies head on, no matter how stronger than him they were and beat them all one way or the other even if he had to put a bad dog down. Literally how every RPG is and how life itself is as we enter into it, culture-shocked from birth and rushing through it without knowing, knowing and blind until we find our feet in it here and there only to be caught unawares by another part of 'life'.

and, as we absorb information and data from everything we encounter, even in the mind and spirit, so, too, would have to be assumed of Lavos and every other living entity.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Alternate Zenan Bridge Defense Theory

« on: February 03, 2018, 04:32:39 pm »

Hi everyone. I was compelled to sign up after reading this...

https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Zenan_Bridge_(Defense_in_Lavos_Timeline).html

Which is a perfectly good explanation. But I always imagined something different so I wanted to share.

It's entirely possible that Zenan Bridge wasn't held. Remember that Magus, in the Lavos Timeline, wasn't interrupted when he summoned Lavos. As we see later, in 12000BC, his plan to destroy Lavos doesn't work. There's no reason to think it'd go any different in 600AD.

Also remember that when Magus disappeared, his army scattered.

So, it's possible that in the original Lavos Timeline, they did break through Zenan bridge, Magus summoned Lavos, failed to defeat him, and disappeared from the world forever, and his army scattered just the same as it does in the Keystone Timeline. The only difference being, the Mystics were closer to winning.

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Now, the real question is- why did the war with Guardia coincide with Magus's summoning Lavos?

The way time travel works, the only true moment that the timeline existed where Magus summoned Lavos unchecked was in a blip of a timeline as the timeline surrounding Nadia/Marle unraveled and re-weaved itself. It was never a strong timeline, so there being no defense of Zenan Bridge is ridiculous. Only Nadia's involvement changes. They still had designs on the Queen and causing a schism in the human Kingdoms. Therefore, most assuredly, the Queens disappearance was noticed, the fake recognized immediately for suddenly acting different, Nadia didn't play the part, but the offensive against the Mystics would have still been in effect, thus causing a rout as the enemy retreated from the Kingdom of Humans as a diversionary tactic to the main show. Destroy the bridge, cease them from following and they're left scratching their heads, whether the real Queen is found or not.

However, the elements of fate and destiny were stronger than the blip of a timeline could ever be and Chrono and Lucca and Glenn were always unavoidable essences, causing the strong timeline to weave itself over and around and destroy the usurping timeline, for certainly Glenn still had history with Magus and between these checks and balances that keep reality together bouncing off each other and calling each other, There most certainly always was a Zenan Bridge Defense with or without, but the with is stronger was before, during and after the blip.

Decent theory, though. Hard to think these things through when you think you're on to something.

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General Discussion / Re: God, I Miss This Place

« on: February 03, 2018, 04:26:54 pm »

It's hard to truly miss what's still around. You spend too much time dwelling on 'glory' days and good times, then you might be holding your selves back from moving on to enjoy new ones as they come without comparing them to the past.

I mean, I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's really the right context for what kicked this thread off. Sure, it's nostalgia. But I don't think anyone missing a golden era of activity here on the forums is causing anyone to miss out on other opportunities. It's not like there's a forum monopoly on the internet, hahaha...

But I do get what you mean as a general fact, and in that it can absolutely be true!

You might be right, but I think it's important to say it anyway even if only one person feels the way I responded to. It's a precedent of 'the needs of the few; the me; outweigh the needs of the many', and certainly, I might have simply felt the need to express the sentiment whether anyone needed to hear it or not. It might have just been for my own selfishness.

Or, maybe, I'm just being another twisted sadist in an existence that seemingly has too many. It's really hard to tell some times.

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General Discussion / Re: God, I Miss This Place

« on: February 02, 2018, 05:50:26 pm »

It's hard to truly miss what's still around. You spend too much time dwelling on 'glory' days and good times, then you might be holding your selves back from moving on to enjoy new ones as they come without comparing them to the past.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Was Crono Supposed to Die?

« on: January 20, 2018, 04:55:14 pm »

I remember reading once that Kato planned to have Crono die for good. I finally found the source.

Originally, Chrono Trigger writer, Masato Kato, wanted to keep Crono dead. To continue the mission, the party would actually have to recruit a younger version of Crono. But Square deemed it too depressing and requested that the rest of the story be written in a way that he can still be saved.

Is there a source for that, however? Some interview with Kato that I'm missing where he addresses this?

Anyhow, I figure that, if true, this could be good justification as for why Crono appears to be dead in Radical Dreamers; i.e., it's how Masato Kato wanted it, and being a "spin-off" he didn't have Squaresoft looking over his shoulder as closely.

All great warriors have enemies that try to kill them off for good. It's a hard thing to do if the warriors fate is greater than those that attempt to kill them, even supposed creators of supposed fantasy realms.

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General Discussion / Re: God, I Miss This Place

« on: January 10, 2018, 05:01:42 pm »

I remember when Ramsus commended me on asking questions of one of the decisions made by the administrative team, one of the few places I've been in my life where that's actually happened. I've been kicked out of a lot of other places in between now and then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ProEFvXvW6c

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: A Theory Regarding Schala

« on: December 18, 2017, 03:11:10 pm »

But back to the point of the Guardia line, there's no indication in the game that they were descended from Zeal's royal family.

They show the lineage of Nadia/Marle to her ancestor in time travel form to teach a bit of time travel theory and that, along with the Pendant tie into Schala and Zeal and given natures' tendency for coincidence, read co-in-cidence, not how you normally hear it, as well as the fact that storyline elements play out even in reality, in our own lives and you have enough credible actual, logical deductions to at least get a foot in the doubt of plausible theory and thus provides more proof of the theory that it is connected than there is otherwise.

I can even list a bunch of other sources to tie into the 'seeming-incest' form comment I dropped, and those sources do come from other parts of our cultural platform, from books to movies and not directly related to Chrono Trigger and the Chronoverse by anything other than their connection to our own reality and the evidence there of other things spirits take and finding a common element in how those stories tie together to look at Chrono and Nadia as distant relatives down a long-lived family tree and how that is coincidal by similarity to Link and Zelda, Will and Kara in Illusion of Gaia, Kidd and Serge in Chrono Cross; repeating patterns that even in reincarnation, the bible has proven reincarnation to multiple forms and translations by the hands of others in the mix to provide in gluing-feathers-to-our-arms-and-jumping-off-cliffs to creating airplanes style of finding a way to get shit done from magic to technology to time travel and alternate reality to Saga Frontier and other frontiers of theology to attribute even time and space to forms of magic, shown even through Janus' 'shadow' attacks, to bring it back in five degrees of existence format to the original topic.

And, to go even further, 'the black wind that howls', is very reminiscent of anti-matter/dark matter, spirits of the dead, even science has proven to have witnessed a wind that travels through space and passes through matter as if it weren't even there, to tie 'spirit' matter into matter of another form, as strong and as real as matter and thus matter itself, possessing different qualities, which proves earlier in this post the theory of this fueling our magic and technology, referencing Final Fantasy 7 and Shinra Technology, so on and so forth. And the fact that this all rolls into even psychological analyses of character and storyline elements only gives added effect to the possibility of it at the very least if not the proof for us lacking the actual 'had-to-be-there' effect and had to rely on 'logical deduction' for how faulty that can be at times.

And then, comparing the legends and perhaps sharing a perception or two, like Eminem's 'go inside each others minds, just to see what it'd be like to, walk a mile in each others shoes.'

And, this is what is known as roundabout logic to find evidence in seeming abstract concept to give credibility to a concept much in the way sages learn to predict the future, a class added to remade Final Fantasy 5 as a new 'Job', and that concept helped me define what I've just shown you. That is my masterpiece, my symphony orchestrated perfected over a decades worth of fights fought in the mind and spirit on the internet and in the past 3 and a half years as the eternal warrior, giving me insight into the minds of entities like Chrono, Goku, even vegeta, Piccolo, and Magus/Janus. I understand the dark minds perfectly in ways that others here years ago could not, giving my attempted story 'Magus Rising' a much more realistic tone than their 'masterpiece' Crimson Echoes, which could not capture the essence of the actual characters, the one major gripe I have with a lot of things, like them slandering Faramir's character in the movie versions of the Lord of the Rings, making him try to steal the ring instead of what he actually did in the books by letting Frodo go free.

It's unintentional and artistic license, and I think an indication of the paths of life where the artists were coming from, for being pretty good with the mechanics of everything else they were using, from it lacking quality for them not having had enough life experience to have grown enough to be able to bring about a better quality project. For what it was, it was still good, but showed them lacking the pain and lessons in life that years have probably given them since then.

And that, I know to be true through narcissistic-like self-analysis of my own path in life. I have even griped about them deleting my thread in 'The Springtime of Youth' for erasing a path to the infinite. Good-naturedly, of course, because it was after the fact and human nature to just get rid of things they have trouble facing, we've all done that. But, that's an old issue from years ago already, but even knowing the history of a forum like this ties into being able to know the rate and growth of any community or; on a larger scale; reality.