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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 28, 2006, 07:26:51 am »

What kazmaka is pointing out is that we don't really know if one second in the Chrono dimension is the same as one second in Lavos' pocket dimension.

As usual Chrono'99 is hitting the mark on my points, thankyou.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 26, 2006, 06:54:23 pm »

But Lavos can time travel, well sort of, he isnt in a particular time, yes he landed in 65,000,000 bc, but it could of been 5 seconds before the CT game, because of the pocket dimension stuff and whatnot.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 26, 2006, 06:36:33 am »

But we have no idea how long Lavos was on the planet for, thats the whole point about the pocket dimension and time error.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 25, 2006, 04:59:36 am »

There's lot's geo-thermal energy in the Middle Ages probably because Lavos stores enough nurishment for hibernation(remember that he's inactive for almost 15,000 years.)  Besides, he sucks more than enough nurishment for 65 million years.

Since heat returns to Earth, life blooms once again. And because of it, he continues gather more DNA data to evolve futher while hibernating.

Is it just me... Or is everything said there based on incorrect statements ?

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 09, 2006, 01:29:11 pm »

In FF7, once the planet lost the lifestream, it crumbled up and floated away.

Good point, except this is Chrono Trigger. DEE DEE DEE!

..... You do remember that you were the one who started the whole lifestream thing anyway.... The CT version would be .. The Life of the 'Entity' as it is agreed that the 'Entity' is the planet, and the 'Entity' is very much alive.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 06, 2006, 02:02:09 pm »

Well yea, but even without lifestream, continents and species wouldn't just dissapear.

How would species not disapear, they would go extinct on one timeline due to there being no 'Lifestream' left to give 'Life' to the species. And in some whacky beliefs what i've said about continents is also true, without energy the planet cannot keep itself together, in a sense.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 06, 2006, 05:46:35 am »

Also the point that absorbing the energy of the planet weakens the planet, we dont know what effects this may of had, the planet may of had more continents, more life forms, radically diferent environment, but after loosing so much energy it lost this. We are seeing the planet as a strange entity here with numerous powers, who know what it could of been like at its full potential.

That'd be absorbing lifeforms and land mass, not energy. The energy Lavos was absorbing was probably geothermal energy or like, mystical spirit energy from the planet or something, like the Lifestream.

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My point WAS that the energy was probably something similiar to the Lifestream. The lifestream gives life to everything, without the lifestream, there would be nothing on the planet, well not exactly, but there would be no life. So if Lavos was absorbing the Lifestream (or this planets equivalant) there would be no life on the planet, eventaully, the planet itself would die, there probably would be no planet left at all if Lavos kept absorbing the energy.

Your other point didnt actaully make enough sense for me to reply, and its kinda odd how we call Lavos a he opposed to a she.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 05, 2006, 07:11:19 pm »

Actually, it's more hinting towards the fact that the sunstone already ran out, or was on it's last end. Heck, in 2300AD, the sunstone is a moonstone, and with Zeal's ever need for magic and their usage rate, if the sunstone can deteriorate in 14,300 years without anyone using it, imagine how fast it'd deteriorate from the Zealian's power hungry usage.

I havent actaully played CT in a while, but i dont recall any specific mention that use of the sunstone like they were was actaully causing it to run out, and we dont know how long and extensively they were using it beforehand, or what it was really doing underground in the Sun Palace. For all we know being underground away from any sunlight causes it to loose its power, whereas if they had kept using it, and kept it in a nice sunny spot, it may never of waned away, as long as Melchior never got his hands on it to make sun shades.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 05, 2006, 05:28:47 pm »

How about collecting DNA and Energy? DNA for Evolution and energy for laying eggs(+the new collected DNA). Becoming better and reproduce is logical for me.

How much energy do you need just to lay a few eggs ? And since when did Lavos "Lay eggs". The fact is we dont really know much about the life cycle of a Lavos... And still, the mere fact he needs to collect Energy points to the conclusion that Lavos had dried up his reserves, so still the Zealians would not bother using his energy, the sun stone would of been just as ample an energy source.
Also the point that absorbing the energy of the planet weakens the planet, we dont know what effects this may of had, the planet may of had more continents, more life forms, radically diferent environment, but after loosing so much energy it lost this. We are seeing the planet as a strange entity here with numerous powers, who know what it could of been like at its full potential.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 05, 2006, 03:36:53 pm »

No see, Lavos was an adult when he landed. As infants, they stay on the planet they're born on until adulthood, then inseminate another planet until they enter gestation.

Then why did he have the need to absorb the planets energy ? I see no logical explanation for this being true...

Edit : And if you say he needed the energy because he was feeling pekish after his long trip, everything aformentioned would still apply as Lavos would be weak after using so much energy the Zealians would still not try absorbing his entire null energy.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 05, 2006, 11:17:11 am »

Yeah good point... Without belthesar they would remain quite unintelligent...

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 05, 2006, 05:29:31 am »

But hes only an infant.. He stays in there for .. well i dont know how long, until hes got all the energy and DNA or whatever that he wants, then he pops out in the CT timeline to destroy the world, and lay his eggs.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 04, 2006, 02:26:23 pm »

The other timelines would not of led to apocalypse, at least not a Lavos intervened apocalypse like the CT timeline does, as Lavos would not pop out of his Pocket Dimension, this is proved by the fact CT exists.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 03, 2006, 08:37:07 am »

Thanks Chrono'99, that is my point exactly. Well, one person agree'ing with me is all I came here for, thanks for your time.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines

« on: July 01, 2006, 02:56:16 pm »

Yes.. Thats only 1 possible timeline, there could be many other possibilities that i cant really be bothered to go into details of and think about. And thats not what happens before Crono and co. start Time Traveling.. The 'Lavos Timeline' is, what i described is clearly diferent.