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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: 11 years later... No sequels...
« on: July 10, 2011, 01:06:45 am »
With the recent DS and upcoming VC and PSN releases, it's abundantly clear that Square Enix is testing the market. What better way to gague interest in an 11 years dead series than to re-release the first game and see how it sells? If you really want another Chrono title, there's only one thing to do: Buy all the versions of Chrono Trigger/Cross.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Crazy End of Time Theory?
« on: July 10, 2011, 12:58:00 am »
I will have to disagree. When we look at Gaspar's knowledge of the player's actions, we can conclude that the "End of Time" very obviously isn't subject to the rules of a standard timeline, and rather exists, in some way, removed from it. It is also important to note that the End of Time grants access to "all times" (not accessible for obvious reasons). It stands to reason that Gaspar, already posessing some knowledge of how to manipulate time, could have retrieved the resources required from different points in history. Though it's true that Gaspar could have "dreamed" up the place, it is unlikely he would have known much about architecture so much different than anything he's ever seen in 12,000 BC. Gaspar necissariliy had the ability to percieve and manipulate time on an unprecedented scale from the End of Time, and it's much less of a leap to posit that he retrieved things from the past rather than willed them into existence.
Another thing to note. If Gaspar had the ability to create objects by dreaming them into being, it is very implausible that he wouldn't create an ultimate weapon of some sort, or at least do something with that infinite creative prowess to remedy the Lavos situation that, despite his position as an "outside observer", he was very much invested against.
Another thing to note. If Gaspar had the ability to create objects by dreaming them into being, it is very implausible that he wouldn't create an ultimate weapon of some sort, or at least do something with that infinite creative prowess to remedy the Lavos situation that, despite his position as an "outside observer", he was very much invested against.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Queen Zeal calling Lavos' Power
« on: July 03, 2011, 01:45:59 am »
Once you defeat Queen Zeal and she summons Lavos' power, you see a scene where the Black Omen appears to be hovering, not above land like in every era it appears in, but over Lavos in 12,000 BC. After this scene you begin the fight with Lavos' Shell. Now upon trivial evaluation the extent of the continuity and plot issues posed by this event has eluded me, and I still can't intuit the solutions, but I feel like throwing out a few ideas and seeing what the community comes up with will be an effective way to plausibly explain what happened.
A few important issues to address.
The Omen is no longer in its original time and position.
Even if you start in Antiquity, the Black Omen has at least moved to be positioned over Lavos. I posit not that the Omen is Epoch-esque, that is to say being capable of time travel or much physical transport, but that due to the Mammon Machine's heavy integration into the structure it is inherently linked to Lavos. Perhaps when the controller (Lavos Conduit?) of the vessel, Queen Zeal, formally made a plea to Lavos the vessel responded and was warped to the beast. This is evidenced by no real scene of transport, it's almost as if the machine immediately arrived above Lavos.
Losing to Lavos results in the same scene in 1999 A.D.
Now this is almost certainly a development oversight. It's conversely unlikely we're meant to read too far into this, but that's what we rabid fans do eh? When I try to reconcile this plot wise, it is still very strange. It seems unlikely that Lavos would be able to emerge, kill our brave heroes, and then quitely rebury itself to emerge again in 1999. Ignoring the option of writing it off as a dev. issue, I can't seem to reconcile this.
Beating the Lavos Shell after running through the Omen eliminates the Omen from the time of entry.
This one requires a bit of explanation. What this means is, if you enter the Omen in, say, 1000 A.D, beat the Lavos Shell, then take the gate back to the end of time, the Omen is gone from 1000 A.D. However, there is still only one Omen in 12,000 B.C. and running through in 600 A.D. and 12,000 B.C. have the same cut scene with Queen Zeal. Once again it's easy to write this off as an oversight, and it likely is, but I'm sure there's a canonical way to decipher this.
A few important issues to address.
The Omen is no longer in its original time and position.
Even if you start in Antiquity, the Black Omen has at least moved to be positioned over Lavos. I posit not that the Omen is Epoch-esque, that is to say being capable of time travel or much physical transport, but that due to the Mammon Machine's heavy integration into the structure it is inherently linked to Lavos. Perhaps when the controller (Lavos Conduit?) of the vessel, Queen Zeal, formally made a plea to Lavos the vessel responded and was warped to the beast. This is evidenced by no real scene of transport, it's almost as if the machine immediately arrived above Lavos.
Losing to Lavos results in the same scene in 1999 A.D.
Now this is almost certainly a development oversight. It's conversely unlikely we're meant to read too far into this, but that's what we rabid fans do eh? When I try to reconcile this plot wise, it is still very strange. It seems unlikely that Lavos would be able to emerge, kill our brave heroes, and then quitely rebury itself to emerge again in 1999. Ignoring the option of writing it off as a dev. issue, I can't seem to reconcile this.
Beating the Lavos Shell after running through the Omen eliminates the Omen from the time of entry.
This one requires a bit of explanation. What this means is, if you enter the Omen in, say, 1000 A.D, beat the Lavos Shell, then take the gate back to the end of time, the Omen is gone from 1000 A.D. However, there is still only one Omen in 12,000 B.C. and running through in 600 A.D. and 12,000 B.C. have the same cut scene with Queen Zeal. Once again it's easy to write this off as an oversight, and it likely is, but I'm sure there's a canonical way to decipher this.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: An Idea for deleting the DS New Game Plus.
« on: July 03, 2011, 01:15:21 am »
Why, exactly, would you want to remove the option to do a new game plus?
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Best Party?
« on: July 03, 2011, 01:11:04 am »
I pretty much exclusively stick to Crono, Frog, and Magus. The vortexes are no exception.
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