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Yeah. He's not the beta tester or group that leaked the original copy. Can't really punish people for enthusiasm over the leak...
Let's start with I'm not accusing anyone; frankly, I'm not even suspicious of anyone.

But, he is, or has, actively spreading the leak. I just think you aren't taking a hard enough line on this. Not very long ago, you would have banned this guy.

It just doesn't make sense. The guy could, in theory, be the original leaker, and simply covering his ass with BS stories, and you completely trust him--hell you even condone his spreading of the leak by saying he is at no fault.

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For any beta testers, friends of beta testers, and so on, leak = ban, and the Compendium can't really protect you if SE subpoenas your name or decides to prosecute. We will document to the best of our ability who's thinking about leaking. Even a fake leak = ban. You were asked to comply with the C&D and warned.
Serious question here: why hasn't buu700 been banned yet (or any other further action)? If you guys are trying to dispel suspicion, you have an odd way of doing it.

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General Discussion / Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« on: December 05, 2010, 03:41:02 am »
One thing, before you go off for too long. Maybe it's going a little bit over my head. But, I'm unsure what your intention with the phrase "the law" is. Are you being creative with the whole power and law analog? Because in a literal sense, the US's law does not apply to wikileaks's situation.

Other than that, please take your time. I'm in no rush, and I'd like to see what you'll have to say on this.

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General Discussion / Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« on: December 05, 2010, 12:05:42 am »
Wikileaks did nothing illegal; the person that originally leaked the information to wikileaks however did. Not to mention wikileaks isn't even US based.

Check it, dawg:
Whether or not we understand the full ramifications of the latest leak, we can examine the legalities of prosecuting Wikileaks and the publishers. In the United States, generally publishing classified information is not a crime, though news organizations can be prosecuted for publishing the identities of covert agents, nuclear secrets, and certain communications intelligence such as cryptography, signals communication intelligence, or interception of foreign governmentsí communications. The blog Legal As She Is Spoke does a good job of analyzing the applicability of the Espionage Act and its various sections, namely section 793(e), 794(b) and 798, which cover the punishments for those who communicate or fail to communicate confidential information, publish confidential information with the intent to deliver it to an enemy, or publish specific categories of information. You can find a good definition of espionage at the Looper Reed & McGraw Law Blog.
The government can prosecute whoever leaked the classified information, since that was an illegal act. However, itís harder to prosecute Wikileaks: since itís not based on the United States, it would probably not be subject to a court order from a U.S. district court. On the other hand, while the ruling from the Pentagon Papers case stops the Government from preventing publication, it does allow the Government to hold those who publish information accountable after publication if laws were broken. There may also be issues with prosecuting WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, since he is not a US national. In the mean time, there has been talk of shutting down the WikiLeaks site or limiting its access within the US.

Other than that, I agree. 

Yet another thing to add to the list of things uncovered that are unethical at best.

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General Discussion / Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« on: December 03, 2010, 04:53:04 pm »
Bad News: US Government censors 70 websites for whole world.  :( Not one for slippery slopes, but this might start a dangerous trend with sites like wikileaks and other sites that our government doesn't 'agree' with.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-knocked-off-net-dns-everydns

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General Discussion / Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« on: November 28, 2010, 05:11:27 pm »
Maybe I'm not just getting it, but how is this different than, say, the police shutting down a crack house?
It's more subtle than that. To use your analogy, it's like the police building a wall around a crack house in another country. The US isn't the only country that won't be able to view the sites (that are in another country, btw). Legally, the US can do this as the sites need physical components like the DNS servers (as long as one doesn't know the IP address) within US borders. But, it's still international censorship, and not something I can ethically stand behind, even if I don't advocate the sites themselves. It is a dangerous precedent, especially in a world that increasingly is trying to remove the walls of censorship and secrecy put up by governments.

On a related note: drugs cannot be compared to information. They are quite different.

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General Discussion / Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« on: November 27, 2010, 06:29:48 pm »
Good News: Black Friday went all right for most places (including my home town). A few places, not so much, but still. :roll:

Bad News: US Government censors 70 websites for whole world.  :( Not one for slippery slopes, but this might start a dangerous trend with sites like wikileaks and other sites that our government doesn't 'agree' with.

[edit] Missed a "this" and a "that"; it's convenient how related those words are.

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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / Re: Life goes on.
« on: November 06, 2010, 10:46:39 pm »
Anytime! :)

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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / Re: Life goes on.
« on: November 06, 2010, 10:02:59 pm »
Link of War:

It's by David Hsu-Yen; here's his deviantART page. Quite a nice piece IMO, incorporating sort of a God of War-esque element, hence the name.

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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / Life goes on.
« on: November 06, 2010, 04:09:40 am »
Just stopping by out of an instance of nostalgia. Not sure if I'll stay here very long. I miss the hustle and bustle that this site once had, but the wave had to crash some time, I suppose. Life is stereotypical like that.

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General Discussion / Re: Whats YOUR Favourite Game?
« on: November 06, 2010, 03:27:29 am »
Final Fantasy Tactics... just going by the sheer number of hours I had invested into it.

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General Discussion / Re: What Is "Justice"?
« on: October 22, 2009, 04:30:59 pm »

I appreciate your forthright honesty, BROJ, and I'm sorry if my actions seemed irrelevant.

I'm also sorry if I'm taken as a waste of your consideration. 

Please don't burn a bridge over something this minute.
Yeah, it's okay. I just find needless corrections annoying at best.

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General Discussion / Re: What Is "Justice"?
« on: October 22, 2009, 04:04:07 pm »

What about the rest of the definition?

"...with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

I had no intent, motive, or whatever you wish to call it, of upsetting you, BROJ, nor did I intend to disrupt the discussion.  So, by definition (as you pointed out earlier for the term "justice"), what I did wasn't trolling.

Once again, please don't make a mountain out of a molehill.  Thank you.  :)
Pfft, whatever... so you did it altruistically; you're still being irrelevent (and a waste of my consideration).

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General Discussion / Re: What Is "Justice"?
« on: October 22, 2009, 03:32:46 pm »

What have I done so far that you consider to be trolling?  If you can't provide an example, is that a fair accusation?  If not, then the spellcheck was a temporary inconvenience.

No need to make a mountain out of a molehill.
a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community
Is pointing out minor typos germane to a conversation about justice? That is all.

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