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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Re: On the subject of Nu...
« on: June 21, 2007, 07:00:28 am »
I agree with Radox Redux on the issue of Nus being in some way closely associated with the Entity. For one, I always interpreted the scene in Zeal where the inventor of Tabs tells you his Nu assisstant has been stealing tabs and hiding them to mean that all the tabs you found in the game were hidden by that Nu. Which of course implies the ability to time travel, which implies a closeness to the Entity.
Am I crazy? Did anyone else interpret that scene that way? I know it's a stretch...
Am I crazy? Did anyone else interpret that scene that way? I know it's a stretch...
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Why do we love the Chrono series so much?
« on: June 21, 2007, 06:39:47 am »
I always considered Marle to be naive and sweet-natured, not bossy and bratty. Impulsive I'll give ya. But why all the hate? I've always like Marle, she's nice and always appreciative of people helping her out--which is kinda the opposite of bratty. Also her desire save the future is highly unselfish and "good," which is ALSO kinda the opposite of bratty.
What I'm saying is, I like Marle. Go Marle!
(Kanadyets, I think we basically agree? I'm not saying competition is wrong, I'm just saying that if you're say, a soccer player and the entire reason you're playing is to be the best soccer player, and not because youlove soccer, then maybe something is wrong. I mean, competition is good (sometimes) because it maximized potential, not because it establishes a pecking order! And of course people will do things with the desire to be better than others, just I think that it's not the most constructive atitude to have. Except, apparently, in ZeaLitY's case.)
What I'm saying is, I like Marle. Go Marle!
(Kanadyets, I think we basically agree? I'm not saying competition is wrong, I'm just saying that if you're say, a soccer player and the entire reason you're playing is to be the best soccer player, and not because youlove soccer, then maybe something is wrong. I mean, competition is good (sometimes) because it maximized potential, not because it establishes a pecking order! And of course people will do things with the desire to be better than others, just I think that it's not the most constructive atitude to have. Except, apparently, in ZeaLitY's case.)
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Fabulous Mystic Style
« on: June 21, 2007, 06:21:30 am »
I was alright with it up until the incest bit. For some reason that always makes me just a little uncomfortable.
Besides, Magus would totally be a... Dominator? Obviously not dominatrix. Dom? We'll say dom. He's always overcompensating, what with the icy demeanor and the giant phallic tower that maggiekarp pointed out to turning people into frogs for laughs. I bet it holds true in the bedroom, people aren't always the opposite of what they appear in there, are they?
Besides, Magus would totally be a... Dominator? Obviously not dominatrix. Dom? We'll say dom. He's always overcompensating, what with the icy demeanor and the giant phallic tower that maggiekarp pointed out to turning people into frogs for laughs. I bet it holds true in the bedroom, people aren't always the opposite of what they appear in there, are they?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Why would Serge and Kid get married?
« on: June 21, 2007, 06:15:12 am »
Come on, Kyronea! You can't argue with logic!
...that's exactly why Kid married Norris!
...that's exactly why Kid married Norris!
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General Discussion / Re: This sucks...
« on: June 21, 2007, 06:07:02 am »Feminist thinking is divided on the question of sex employment, Molecule. There are plenty of voices from many perspectives, and the discussion is by no means settled. Accordingly, you're simply wrong to have made the blanket statement that "strippers aren't powerful."Sorry, I didn't realize it was necessary to say, "While there are many contesting opinions on this issue, mine is that--" before I stated my opinion on a contested issue. My bad. But yeah, I guess I did come off a bit strong, sorry about that.
Things that bother me about the idea that sex=power:
1. Historically it hardly ever works. When was the last time that female sexuality resulted in anything but opression for women on any sort of large scale?
2. It's fundamentally sexist, as it implies that men will do anything for sex. Or conversely, that women are sluts who will give up purity for what they want.
3. It's hardly ever indicative of a heathly understanding of sex. In Spider Robinson's (science fiction) book Callahan'sLady, about the one honorably run brothel in New York City, the whole point is that sex is seen as something two adults do for fun, and nothing more. The main character, a young prostitute used to using sex as a tool, (& thus, she thinks, a source of power) has to be re-educated in what sex means before she can really get anywhere in life. Yes, it's fiction, but I think it makes a good point.
Also, strippers provide a service. Do we really think of other service providers, like waiters and taxi drivers, being more powerful than the people they provide the service for? People who have disposable income to spend on luxury services, while the service providers usually barelymade enough to scrape by on?
Okay, the reason I stated my opinion so strongly in my initial response is that to say "sex workers can be powerful," while theoretically correct, ignores the massive, widespread exploitation and abuse of women in sex worker positions. Any women working as a stripper in a bar frequented only by "drooling idiots" is likely to be exploited. Overly sexualised women in video games are definately exploited, or rather feminine sexuality is being exploited, because these women aren't real. I'm not even saying sex employment is by definition is a bad thing. I'm saying that the way it's implemented now, with the workers being construed as dirty harlots and the patrons being construed as drooling idiots, with the idea of a women's power to idiot-ify a man and a man's power to objectify a women maintaining center stage, it's no real way to give power to women. It's no real way to be.
..okay, that was in reply to Lord J. And Kanadyets typed up a whole thing while I was wrestling with this... here goes:
Sorry about the sweepingness of my generalizations. I meant to imply that exploitation was the norm, not that it occured in every instance. And yes, you did posit an example. In debating circles we call that a rhetorical question. The answer isn't given, but it's bloody well implied.
Of course people should be held accountable for their decisions. Here, it's you who seem to be assuming that I beleive sex workers to be "selling their proverbial souls." Never have I said anything to imply that stripping or other forms of sex work are inherently wrong. The only bad decision the sex workerwould be making is staying in a bad situation. And maybe it's the only way for them to get money they know, so it's not so much a decisions. That's where the exploitation and abuse tend to come in.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Fabulous Mystic Style
« on: June 21, 2007, 04:24:58 am »
Wow. This thread went to kind of a weird place.
I take back what I said about Magus's sexuality, okay guys? You can stop punishing me.
I take back what I said about Magus's sexuality, okay guys? You can stop punishing me.
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General Discussion / Re: This sucks...
« on: June 21, 2007, 04:05:07 am »If anyone needs half naked(or is it half clothed?) women
Reframing the great philosophical debates of our times.
Look, DOA itself isn't the problem. There'll always be fringe applications of any medium (film, novels, etc.) dedicated to sex. Sex sells, after all. And heck, SEX isn't the problem. It's the incredibly juvenile attitude the game industry, in general, takes towards sex that's the problem. In no other medium are women so objectified and are there so few realistic depictions of women. I'm including comics here. Yeah, it's bad.
..for a better worded version of what I mean, see points 4 & 5 of this article.
Kanadyets: Not only is your example tasteless, it's wrong. It's so wrong it hurts. Strippers aren't powerful. They're being exploited both by the customer and their management. They are, in general, desperate women who aren't really in control of their lives. While it's true that accepting and understanding sex and in trn displaying what you've got can certainly be empowering, it's reallysomething you have to do on your own terms. Not those of a sleazy strip club owner.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: How Does the Dead Sea Exist in Home World?
« on: June 21, 2007, 03:35:37 am »
That's the way I read it, yes. What with all the talk about Serge being the "missing piece" and all. Time travel itself doesn't cause dimensional splits, it's this very specific instance that does.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: If there were to be a new Chrono game...
« on: June 21, 2007, 03:12:32 am »
So easy, he could probably double up on roles and play Serge, too.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Fabulous Mystic Style
« on: June 17, 2007, 08:28:06 am »
I like this topic!
Magus had to design all the bits of the castle that relate to summoning Lavos, that's a certainty. And as we can see, if from nothing from the summoning the party so rudely interrupts, he does have a flair for the dramatic. Given that his henchmen tend to be blundering fools when it comes to traps/fortifications, I'd say he set up the inimitably spooky maze that is Magus's Castle.
I do, however, assume he handed some decorating duties over to Flea and Ozzie.
Hrm. Would Queer Eye for the Straight Anti-Hero be too spoilerish?
Also, do we have any indication that Magus is, in fact, straight?
Magus had to design all the bits of the castle that relate to summoning Lavos, that's a certainty. And as we can see, if from nothing from the summoning the party so rudely interrupts, he does have a flair for the dramatic. Given that his henchmen tend to be blundering fools when it comes to traps/fortifications, I'd say he set up the inimitably spooky maze that is Magus's Castle.
I do, however, assume he handed some decorating duties over to Flea and Ozzie.
Hrm. Would Queer Eye for the Straight Anti-Hero be too spoilerish?
Also, do we have any indication that Magus is, in fact, straight?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: I know why Frog talks like Shakespeare
« on: June 17, 2007, 07:40:32 am »
Kid's accent is almost certainly meant to be Australian. She uses the term sheila to refer to Leena if Leena's with you when you first reach Another's Termina. That's generally regarded as an Australian term. (It's basically the female equivalent of bloke--it's not an insult.) So, whether she actuallydoes speak accurate Australian or not, I beleive an Australian accent isintended.
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General Discussion / Re: Nintendo Wii Prints Money
« on: June 17, 2007, 07:27:38 am »
That's only true for American money! But Japan--which, you'll remember, is the where the Wii is made--uses yen! And, as Penny Arcade tells us, yen look like M&Ms. Thus, the Wii doesn't need a printer--it needs a miniature choclate manufacturing plant! And, according to inside sources, Willy Wonka was close to perfecting such a device just months before the Wii was announced. Perhaps he did perfect it! Perhaps it's there is our Wiis, waiting to be unleashed by the proper wave of the Wiimote! UNITE, WII OWNERS! WE DESERVE THE TRUTH!
(To prevent confusion I guess I should note I don't actually own a Wii. It's fun to say though.)
(To prevent confusion I guess I should note I don't actually own a Wii. It's fun to say though.)
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General Discussion / Re: This sucks...
« on: June 17, 2007, 07:04:45 am »This is also true of Lulu, who is someone else you do not want to roll with.
I dunno. I wouldn't mind rolling with her.
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[extracts mind from gutter]
There! Better. I really think the excessive amount of female flesh found in video games does turn women off video games. Imagine, guys, that there was a game that exclusively included guys in thongs playing beach volleyball. Now imagine this isn't a weird specialty game, but an offshoot of a major game that allows you to fight these same guys with mostly fully-clothed women. And even the most respected games in this second game's genre include guys revealing clothing that accentuates their most private bits. Imagine that most big games don't even have guys in them, just fully covered women, but when guys do pop up, they are usually portrayed primarily as sex symbols.
Yeah, there's a reason that although women certainly show an interest in the few games that DO cater to their interests, there are few avid female gamers.
I also have a problem with undressed=powerful. I dunno if it's a good message to send out there?
That said, I think the Chronoverse is pretty good about welcoming women I think. Even though there are sexy girls in Cross, there are also powerful women who don't also have to be sluts! And there's plenty o' beefcake too. Nikki shirks shirts, and Karsh and Guile also show tantalizing glimpses of bare chest. Oh la la!
...in case anyone is confused, yes, I am a (straight) guy. I'm just comfortable about it.
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General Discussion / Re: Nintendo Wii Prints Money
« on: June 17, 2007, 06:43:06 am »
"Now that," I thought as I read the post subject, "Is what I'd call a useful feature."
Talk about a letdown.
Talk about a letdown.
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Fan Project News/Updates / Re: Chrono Crisis Story Update
« on: June 17, 2007, 06:37:48 am »and the writing... "May our prayers for peace echo throughout eternity." SO CHRONO!
It's a direct quotation of an inscription on Nadia's Bell in Chrono Cross.
D'oh!
...well, I still stand by assertion that the Crisis writing is incredible. I just picked the wrong bit to quote.
Man, if I didn't take offense to stupidity so easily I'd find the whole D R E A M incident utterly hilarious.
I do give him points for "Ultra-Mega 3000 RPG Maker." If there was a RPG making program in the Cronoverse, that'd be its name.
Hmm. The 3000 would flow better if it was at the end.