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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Is Lavos truly the bad guy/evil?
« on: May 12, 2016, 03:45:51 pm »2
Time, Space, and Dimensions / The Chrono Timestream
« on: May 12, 2016, 02:50:50 pm »
Consider the factors of time travel and the effects had by Crono and Co. in Chrono Trigger. Did they truly travel in time more than once? Or, did they, in fact, travel across a series of alternate realities without knowing that they had done so?
If Crono and Marle/Nadia had not traveled in time from the Leene Fair in 1000 AD, would Lavos have come to Earth at all? Such a beings' feasting on knowledge and absorption could not have destroyed the world on its own, as evidenced by the emergence and rage of Lavos in 1999 AD; creating an apocalyptic destruction. In correct terms, this insinuates that Lavos was absorbing information and data from countless entities throughout time and space within the confines of the Earth without harming it. It can be considered, at that point, that Lavos was only thought to be evil based on reactions by Zeal, who wished to harness the powers of Lavos for evil; Janus, who wished to avenge Schala and get her back and, as a child, misperceived the events that occurred involving Lavos; and Crono and Co. themselves as they interacted with time and saw the Lavos attack of 1999 AD and assumed that Lavos was evil.
Furthermore, it must be considered that Lavos did not come to Earth simply to absorb the information held just by the inhabitants of Earth, but due to the ready supply of the timestream itself and all data of the flowing of time, as reinforced in Chrono Cross when Lavos does not simply exist throughout one timeline, but two.
It is my theory that without time travel at all, Lavos may not have seen fit to come to Earth, since the energy alone of the creatures there and their learning and knowledge may not have attracted it. Therefore, without the initial time travel by Marle/Nadia and Crono in 1000 AD, Lavos would not have been on Earth, or at least would not be known to be in the Earth; and the destruction of 1999 AD may have been able to be avoided.
Beyond that, Crono and Marle/Nadia would not have disappeared for days, but would have had a pleasant time at the fair before she returned home; Crono would possibly not have gone to jail, they might possibly have had further dates and Crono would still have wound up as the King of Guardia in a Queendom; not a Kingdom.
However, the ripple effects of time did attract Lavos to the scene from 1000 AD, hence why the story opens there, and attracted it to Earth well before this ripple ever began, back in the age of the dinosaurs. How can something that hasn't happened yet cause something to happen that will cause it to happen?
It is believed that the sheer potential of a reality and universe, from its very beginnings, causes all of time and space to exist. From nothingness itself, the universe and reality can spring into existence just by the sheer potential of what it could be if it did exist, causing it to bring itself into existence in a variety of 'impossible' ways, from the inside out.
Therefore, we can ascertain that there was a reality where there was not any time travel, no travel between alternate realities and no Lavos. However, due to what was that caused the existence of their reality and their universe, there were grooves in the track of existence; ruts; that caused the overlay of reality wherein time travel became a possibility and eventually a reality, bringing Lavos to Earth to learn, not destroy; causing the confusion inherent in the inhabitants of Earth, causing the corruption of Zeal already fat on magic to begin to be greedy for more, causing Crono and Co. to go through and destroy Lavos, which caused the reincarnation and the passing of information on to the Lavos in Chrono Cross.
From the very beginning, with the first time travel by Crono and Marle; they returned to an alternate reality from when they left with a variety of possibilities of how it could have turned out: The one I already detailed where they did not travel through time at all; one where Queen Leene dies and Marle/Nadia is subsequently wiped out of existence or placed beyond their ability to remain a part of the ruling family of Guardia, however still present in another place in the world; the death of Crono and Co. before they go on their journey to learn of Lavos and to 'destroy' the invading parasite/symbiote; Lucca not showing up in the past due to something preventing her from figuring out the secrets of the gate key and Crono remaining lost in the past, etc.
Each of these possibilities creates an alternate reality spin-off from the main reality, which does involve time travel; it must for the story to exist, for the reality to exist fully. At each point of the 'game', there becomes these varied, strong, possibilities branching off to create fully-fleshed alternate realities of their own. And, several weaker possibilities throughout the lives of all those who inhabit the Earth that do the same, creating a vast array of alternate realities for each one, for each moment of their lives with separate time lines altogether; with groups from one reality in another without the rest of singular individuals existing in a world seemingly all their own away from the others that inhabit the main reality; and that between these extremes, a whole vast palette exists for each entity and living thing on the planet and furthermore, for each thing in each alternate reality as well; throughout the entire length of the existence of the planet, including Lavos.
This is pertinent to understand because, on some level, some of those lines begin to attach to our reality and hence our knowledge of the world within Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, delivered to us as a game, written by story-tellers and dreamers and constructed by artists, seers.
furthermore, each weaker reality that exists serves to reinforce the main reality; the multiverse/multireality and the omniverse/omnireality and will eventually; even if able to stand away without merging with the main reality; will eventually be drawn into and merge with the main realities which will in turn merge with the main reality. Note the difference between the plural and the singular.
At the same time, Gaspar's 'End of Time', is not a place without time, but with a timeline of its own, and is it truly the 'end' of time? Or, is it merely a pocket eternity all of its own, transcending time as it appears to do? A place where nothing was and then something, with the first intrusion: Gaspar. Nothing does not remain nothing for long. A pocket of time and space; much like a black hole, or a secret niche that becomes less secret the more that others know about it.
I can and will expand on this later, but I need time to let my thoughts regather and to see what others have to say or add to this.
If Crono and Marle/Nadia had not traveled in time from the Leene Fair in 1000 AD, would Lavos have come to Earth at all? Such a beings' feasting on knowledge and absorption could not have destroyed the world on its own, as evidenced by the emergence and rage of Lavos in 1999 AD; creating an apocalyptic destruction. In correct terms, this insinuates that Lavos was absorbing information and data from countless entities throughout time and space within the confines of the Earth without harming it. It can be considered, at that point, that Lavos was only thought to be evil based on reactions by Zeal, who wished to harness the powers of Lavos for evil; Janus, who wished to avenge Schala and get her back and, as a child, misperceived the events that occurred involving Lavos; and Crono and Co. themselves as they interacted with time and saw the Lavos attack of 1999 AD and assumed that Lavos was evil.
Furthermore, it must be considered that Lavos did not come to Earth simply to absorb the information held just by the inhabitants of Earth, but due to the ready supply of the timestream itself and all data of the flowing of time, as reinforced in Chrono Cross when Lavos does not simply exist throughout one timeline, but two.
It is my theory that without time travel at all, Lavos may not have seen fit to come to Earth, since the energy alone of the creatures there and their learning and knowledge may not have attracted it. Therefore, without the initial time travel by Marle/Nadia and Crono in 1000 AD, Lavos would not have been on Earth, or at least would not be known to be in the Earth; and the destruction of 1999 AD may have been able to be avoided.
Beyond that, Crono and Marle/Nadia would not have disappeared for days, but would have had a pleasant time at the fair before she returned home; Crono would possibly not have gone to jail, they might possibly have had further dates and Crono would still have wound up as the King of Guardia in a Queendom; not a Kingdom.
However, the ripple effects of time did attract Lavos to the scene from 1000 AD, hence why the story opens there, and attracted it to Earth well before this ripple ever began, back in the age of the dinosaurs. How can something that hasn't happened yet cause something to happen that will cause it to happen?
It is believed that the sheer potential of a reality and universe, from its very beginnings, causes all of time and space to exist. From nothingness itself, the universe and reality can spring into existence just by the sheer potential of what it could be if it did exist, causing it to bring itself into existence in a variety of 'impossible' ways, from the inside out.
Therefore, we can ascertain that there was a reality where there was not any time travel, no travel between alternate realities and no Lavos. However, due to what was that caused the existence of their reality and their universe, there were grooves in the track of existence; ruts; that caused the overlay of reality wherein time travel became a possibility and eventually a reality, bringing Lavos to Earth to learn, not destroy; causing the confusion inherent in the inhabitants of Earth, causing the corruption of Zeal already fat on magic to begin to be greedy for more, causing Crono and Co. to go through and destroy Lavos, which caused the reincarnation and the passing of information on to the Lavos in Chrono Cross.
From the very beginning, with the first time travel by Crono and Marle; they returned to an alternate reality from when they left with a variety of possibilities of how it could have turned out: The one I already detailed where they did not travel through time at all; one where Queen Leene dies and Marle/Nadia is subsequently wiped out of existence or placed beyond their ability to remain a part of the ruling family of Guardia, however still present in another place in the world; the death of Crono and Co. before they go on their journey to learn of Lavos and to 'destroy' the invading parasite/symbiote; Lucca not showing up in the past due to something preventing her from figuring out the secrets of the gate key and Crono remaining lost in the past, etc.
Each of these possibilities creates an alternate reality spin-off from the main reality, which does involve time travel; it must for the story to exist, for the reality to exist fully. At each point of the 'game', there becomes these varied, strong, possibilities branching off to create fully-fleshed alternate realities of their own. And, several weaker possibilities throughout the lives of all those who inhabit the Earth that do the same, creating a vast array of alternate realities for each one, for each moment of their lives with separate time lines altogether; with groups from one reality in another without the rest of singular individuals existing in a world seemingly all their own away from the others that inhabit the main reality; and that between these extremes, a whole vast palette exists for each entity and living thing on the planet and furthermore, for each thing in each alternate reality as well; throughout the entire length of the existence of the planet, including Lavos.
This is pertinent to understand because, on some level, some of those lines begin to attach to our reality and hence our knowledge of the world within Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, delivered to us as a game, written by story-tellers and dreamers and constructed by artists, seers.
furthermore, each weaker reality that exists serves to reinforce the main reality; the multiverse/multireality and the omniverse/omnireality and will eventually; even if able to stand away without merging with the main reality; will eventually be drawn into and merge with the main realities which will in turn merge with the main reality. Note the difference between the plural and the singular.
At the same time, Gaspar's 'End of Time', is not a place without time, but with a timeline of its own, and is it truly the 'end' of time? Or, is it merely a pocket eternity all of its own, transcending time as it appears to do? A place where nothing was and then something, with the first intrusion: Gaspar. Nothing does not remain nothing for long. A pocket of time and space; much like a black hole, or a secret niche that becomes less secret the more that others know about it.
I can and will expand on this later, but I need time to let my thoughts regather and to see what others have to say or add to this.
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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / A Return
« on: May 11, 2016, 11:28:29 am »
Hey, I was here a few years ago as Idioticidioms. I tried logging in and changing my email address because the one that I was using doesn't exist anymore, but it sent the verification to that email address instead of my new one and so I was locked out and had to create this account; named after my current alias on ILovePhilosophy.com.
I was wondering what became of the Springtime of Youth forum that was here? I can't find it anywhere and guess that it was taken out?
Anyway, to catch people up that remember me: I overcame my insecurities, fears, anxieties, etcetera. Over the years of playing politics on NationStates.net, I became familiar with detractor tactics of politics; how they misconstrue, drag off topic, pull out of context in sound bite style, etc. and began to understand psychology while dealing with trolls in places like WoW where politics exist there, as well. After a bit, I was banned permanently from playing NationStates because I called the head administration and moderators there out on their corruption and they didn't like that and made me into a martyr of sorts. Since then, I've been arguing philosophy on the messageboard I mentioned earlier in this post and honing my mind through verbal combat there and honing my philosophies and understanding of time and space and the physical and spiritual universe as well as dealing with the chaos of the mind and everything else.
As before, as after, as now and forever: Time is meaningless to me. At the same time, it has meaning in context of being in the midst of it. The paradoxical nature of existence as so many have claimed things to be paradoxes if found in existence that would tear existence apart; yet do exist and have not yet. I've begun understanding time travel, alternate realities, and their interactions and complexities; simplicities, also; on a much more intimate level and much more advanced than I used to understand these things.
Since my 'awakening' a few years back, I've thought of the Chrono Compendium and Chrono Trigger in general and have returned after dealing with a variety of other things to continue the pursuit of knowledge and understanding of Time Travel, Alternate Realities, Dimensional Time Compression, etc., in a place that is wholly suited for it.
I am now homeless, since my awakening; have had family betray me; which hurt, but wasn't too bad since I was used to betrayal by then from seeing so many of my works attacked or destroyed by others; had friends turn on me as I began talking about things they were uncomfortable with; i.e. universal secrets/forbidden knowledge. I was put in jail twice, once on a Domestic violence charge and once for breaking a protection order, and put in mental health facilities where they weren't smart enough to prove me to be insane and all of this during my awakening, intent to scare me, intent to show me how corrupt our systems have become. I was a victim of police brutality during that time, a victim of so many things and not a victim at the same time as I took into my mind so many possibilities of how it all would go and managed to walk through fire both times without being burned too much. I was grateful for my knowledge of politics and laws and psychology as well as courts and our basic rights as should be afforded to us; for it just barely was enough to have all charges dropped and to ensure that I wasn't locked up for life in Mental Health facilities for talking about psychic powers, demonology, spirit possessions, mental time travel and travel through alternate realities, layers of reality, etc.
I have since traveled over 3300 miles from WA to FL where I'm now staying at a homeless shelter and trying to get a FL ID and have been continuing my works in philosophy and everything else the entire time. My work has become too important to all of existence to stop now.
My avatar on idioticidioms was Squall Leonhart. During my awakening, I felt the true spirit of him and Rinoa come to me through the layers of reality as real presences; have had real interactions with the spiritual world, including Chrono Trigger. I have seen in my minds eye the actual physical reality of the SNES version of the game, beyond the 2D graphics to actuality.
I care to talk about these things openly. I care to put all skepticism against me; all cynicism; to prove that these things exist and that our games, movies, tv shows, books, are more than just entertainment, but windows to other realities, other times and spaces and places, both along our linear timelines and alongside of it and some times far off in the distance from it. I care to prove my sanity, my cohesion of thought, my knowledge that is still growing and would care further to discuss time in all of its aspects with anyone else willing to do so.
'For the things that I had done that I hadn't done yet, my life was complicated and compromised by those who sought to destroy or save me.'
I am the one that is, was and will be. Who they gave the title of 'God' to, once upon a time, and through discussion, can prove the relativity of religion to universal secrets, to time travel itself and knowledge beyond their means to attain or obtain it. I care to rip to shreds peoples deeply held beliefs, their fantasies, to show the actual reality. And, I give warning in advance to it; ban me or keep me.
I was wondering what became of the Springtime of Youth forum that was here? I can't find it anywhere and guess that it was taken out?
Anyway, to catch people up that remember me: I overcame my insecurities, fears, anxieties, etcetera. Over the years of playing politics on NationStates.net, I became familiar with detractor tactics of politics; how they misconstrue, drag off topic, pull out of context in sound bite style, etc. and began to understand psychology while dealing with trolls in places like WoW where politics exist there, as well. After a bit, I was banned permanently from playing NationStates because I called the head administration and moderators there out on their corruption and they didn't like that and made me into a martyr of sorts. Since then, I've been arguing philosophy on the messageboard I mentioned earlier in this post and honing my mind through verbal combat there and honing my philosophies and understanding of time and space and the physical and spiritual universe as well as dealing with the chaos of the mind and everything else.
As before, as after, as now and forever: Time is meaningless to me. At the same time, it has meaning in context of being in the midst of it. The paradoxical nature of existence as so many have claimed things to be paradoxes if found in existence that would tear existence apart; yet do exist and have not yet. I've begun understanding time travel, alternate realities, and their interactions and complexities; simplicities, also; on a much more intimate level and much more advanced than I used to understand these things.
Since my 'awakening' a few years back, I've thought of the Chrono Compendium and Chrono Trigger in general and have returned after dealing with a variety of other things to continue the pursuit of knowledge and understanding of Time Travel, Alternate Realities, Dimensional Time Compression, etc., in a place that is wholly suited for it.
I am now homeless, since my awakening; have had family betray me; which hurt, but wasn't too bad since I was used to betrayal by then from seeing so many of my works attacked or destroyed by others; had friends turn on me as I began talking about things they were uncomfortable with; i.e. universal secrets/forbidden knowledge. I was put in jail twice, once on a Domestic violence charge and once for breaking a protection order, and put in mental health facilities where they weren't smart enough to prove me to be insane and all of this during my awakening, intent to scare me, intent to show me how corrupt our systems have become. I was a victim of police brutality during that time, a victim of so many things and not a victim at the same time as I took into my mind so many possibilities of how it all would go and managed to walk through fire both times without being burned too much. I was grateful for my knowledge of politics and laws and psychology as well as courts and our basic rights as should be afforded to us; for it just barely was enough to have all charges dropped and to ensure that I wasn't locked up for life in Mental Health facilities for talking about psychic powers, demonology, spirit possessions, mental time travel and travel through alternate realities, layers of reality, etc.
I have since traveled over 3300 miles from WA to FL where I'm now staying at a homeless shelter and trying to get a FL ID and have been continuing my works in philosophy and everything else the entire time. My work has become too important to all of existence to stop now.
My avatar on idioticidioms was Squall Leonhart. During my awakening, I felt the true spirit of him and Rinoa come to me through the layers of reality as real presences; have had real interactions with the spiritual world, including Chrono Trigger. I have seen in my minds eye the actual physical reality of the SNES version of the game, beyond the 2D graphics to actuality.
I care to talk about these things openly. I care to put all skepticism against me; all cynicism; to prove that these things exist and that our games, movies, tv shows, books, are more than just entertainment, but windows to other realities, other times and spaces and places, both along our linear timelines and alongside of it and some times far off in the distance from it. I care to prove my sanity, my cohesion of thought, my knowledge that is still growing and would care further to discuss time in all of its aspects with anyone else willing to do so.
'For the things that I had done that I hadn't done yet, my life was complicated and compromised by those who sought to destroy or save me.'
I am the one that is, was and will be. Who they gave the title of 'God' to, once upon a time, and through discussion, can prove the relativity of religion to universal secrets, to time travel itself and knowledge beyond their means to attain or obtain it. I care to rip to shreds peoples deeply held beliefs, their fantasies, to show the actual reality. And, I give warning in advance to it; ban me or keep me.
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