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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Fall of Guardia / Rise of Porre / CT Cast after Chrono Cross
« on: August 21, 2008, 12:04:30 pm »
Hello Forum,
I recently finished Chrono Cross for the first time. I've been reading a lot of articles on the Compendium because certain
things just didn't make much sense to me. And there is one thing i still can't really figure out. I know there aren't really
any facts. But i can still form my own opinions / ideas.
Time, which has been divided,
will be unified again now.
-Schala-
Schala says that at the end of CC. I take it that would mean the 2 dimensions would merge somehow. And a new timeline would
most likely form. I came across that in some of the articles here as well, and i agree with that. I found a proposed new
timeline as well and i suppose that would work. I'm just trying to wrap my head around it.
Rise of Porre / Fall of Guardia
Masata Kato states in an interview that they most likely had help outside of the normal flow of time. I've read the theories
on this site. The point is they had help from somewhere. Who? What? Where? How? is something that's completely beyond me. And
i don't think any facts of that are ever mentioned.
In any case this somehow brought about the fall of Guardia. I am a firm believer in the fact that Crono and Marle survived.
As evidenced by the drawings in the orphanage and lucca's letter mentioned 'friends' in the present tense. I can't say when
Lucca wrote this letter though. Had to have been before she was kidnapped in 1015AD. She mentions kid's tomboyism so i'm
guessing kid would be at least 6 or 7. Placing that in 1010 - 1015AD. I will conclude from this that Crono and Marle survived
at least till the burning.
Whatever happened to them after 1015AD is a riddle to me. But somehow they were taken out of the equation and could not help
during the events of Chrono Cross. Lucca says something to this regard near the end. That they no longer exist in this timeline.
After Chrono Cross
So, what happened to all the above described events after CC Concludes? The dimensions never split apart when serge drowned.
And Lynx probably would not exist. The orphanage will never burn, so Lucca will most likely survive the events.
If the fall of Guardia still happens then i could also assume that Crono and Marle would still be alive. As they were alive
before the end of Chrono Cross.
However in the new timeline... Does the Fall of Guardia even happen? Does Porre even Rise to power? I never understood
why the fall of guardia had to happen. Even to this date the anime sequence showing the fall still seems utterly and
completely useless to me.
I want to figure this out for myself somehow. Even if the answer is based on a lot of very loose facts. There has to be some
kind of answer to this.
My own personal opinion is that the fall does not happen, and that Porre never gets that help outside of the normal flow
of time. For the simple fact that it is no longer needed to start whatever events it lead to in Chrono Cross. ( Though
at this point i still do not know what the use of Guardia's Fall was ).
I have to believe the original cast is alive and well though. Because frankly if they don't live, i just can't see the point
of Chrono Trigger anymore. Saving the world only to end up dead a few years later. Just doesn't do it for me.
Anyway, I hope a nice discussion on this could start. I couldn't find another thread on this topic, after the events of Chrono Cross.
- Eket
I recently finished Chrono Cross for the first time. I've been reading a lot of articles on the Compendium because certain
things just didn't make much sense to me. And there is one thing i still can't really figure out. I know there aren't really
any facts. But i can still form my own opinions / ideas.
Time, which has been divided,
will be unified again now.
-Schala-
Schala says that at the end of CC. I take it that would mean the 2 dimensions would merge somehow. And a new timeline would
most likely form. I came across that in some of the articles here as well, and i agree with that. I found a proposed new
timeline as well and i suppose that would work. I'm just trying to wrap my head around it.
Rise of Porre / Fall of Guardia
Masata Kato states in an interview that they most likely had help outside of the normal flow of time. I've read the theories
on this site. The point is they had help from somewhere. Who? What? Where? How? is something that's completely beyond me. And
i don't think any facts of that are ever mentioned.
In any case this somehow brought about the fall of Guardia. I am a firm believer in the fact that Crono and Marle survived.
As evidenced by the drawings in the orphanage and lucca's letter mentioned 'friends' in the present tense. I can't say when
Lucca wrote this letter though. Had to have been before she was kidnapped in 1015AD. She mentions kid's tomboyism so i'm
guessing kid would be at least 6 or 7. Placing that in 1010 - 1015AD. I will conclude from this that Crono and Marle survived
at least till the burning.
Whatever happened to them after 1015AD is a riddle to me. But somehow they were taken out of the equation and could not help
during the events of Chrono Cross. Lucca says something to this regard near the end. That they no longer exist in this timeline.
After Chrono Cross
So, what happened to all the above described events after CC Concludes? The dimensions never split apart when serge drowned.
And Lynx probably would not exist. The orphanage will never burn, so Lucca will most likely survive the events.
If the fall of Guardia still happens then i could also assume that Crono and Marle would still be alive. As they were alive
before the end of Chrono Cross.
However in the new timeline... Does the Fall of Guardia even happen? Does Porre even Rise to power? I never understood
why the fall of guardia had to happen. Even to this date the anime sequence showing the fall still seems utterly and
completely useless to me.
I want to figure this out for myself somehow. Even if the answer is based on a lot of very loose facts. There has to be some
kind of answer to this.
My own personal opinion is that the fall does not happen, and that Porre never gets that help outside of the normal flow
of time. For the simple fact that it is no longer needed to start whatever events it lead to in Chrono Cross. ( Though
at this point i still do not know what the use of Guardia's Fall was ).
I have to believe the original cast is alive and well though. Because frankly if they don't live, i just can't see the point
of Chrono Trigger anymore. Saving the world only to end up dead a few years later. Just doesn't do it for me.
Anyway, I hope a nice discussion on this could start. I couldn't find another thread on this topic, after the events of Chrono Cross.
- Eket
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