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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: December 02, 2005, 05:57:08 pm »Quote from: Sentenal
TTI does exist. And I think you agree with it as well, you just don't know that you do. It simply means that time travelers are immune to changes in the past due that the future they were born/lived/etc has now been discarded and replaced. Its like you said here, more or less:QuoteThe time traveler is not affected by shifts in time currents because he or she hails from another dimension -- even though the dimension is almost precisely the same. All possibilities mannifest themselves in the multiverse. By traveling back in time (up stream), a time traveler leaves his or her original dimension for a dimension whose only difference is that the time traveler appears spontaneously in a different time.
That is time travelers immunity.
You misunderstand. Time Traveler's Immunity is a name given to an observed effect (like centrifugal force). The observation is correct, but the "immunity" can only exist in Multiverse time travel. You cannot have TTI in linear time theories as it denies the nature of time. TTI is not universally applicable and thus is unwise to be quoted with everyother post. Thus, as an independant theory, TTI does not exist.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: December 02, 2005, 05:16:08 pm »Quote from: GrayLensman
Also, the time bastard theory supposes that Robo A2 would, in fact, disappear. The Chrono Series doesn't show duplicate time travelers being created. For example, Crono has TTI in 600 AD, and presumably there is another version of Crono in the future who would warp to the past, but no duplicates time travelers appear.
Not necessarily. The time gates and the Epoch of Chrono Trigger adjust for the passing of time within time periods. When Crono goes inbetween times, he arrives at the same time as when he left. There is no canceling out in the Chrono Universe. If there was, then each time Crono and Crew would return to a time period, nothing would have changed since their very first visit. That would mean Queen Leene would have to rescued again, and again, and again, and again, a chain that would continue so long as you kept time traveling back to 600 AD.
And besides, when using the Time Egg, characters don't cancel themselves out. I've edited the post you were reffering to, to address this.
Again, there is no TTI.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: December 02, 2005, 10:50:04 am »Quote from: Silvercry
If that’s the case, then please explain Doan’s presence at the Moonlight Parade. Please. Its been driving me crazy for the last 10 years now. If time changes are ‘instant’, then at the exact moment the tip of the Rainbow found its way into the heart of the Lavos Core, Doan’s 2400 AD would have ceased to be, banished to the DBT. In its place, the saved future would exists, complete with Chronopolis and FATE. In fact, when Crono and company returned home, El Nido would be off in the ocean somewhere, waiting for them. TTI protects Robo from blinking out, but Doan should not have been there! Lucca could travel through time all she wants to gather everyone together for the Parade after Lavos’s defeat, but if she tried to go to the future, she should find a thriving society that may or may not contain a man named Doan.
Please explain.
If Doan is brought to the End of Time before Lavos is destroyed, he should not disappear. Changes to a dimension's future are instant. But changes to the future have no affect from members of that dimension's future who have traveled to the past. You (Silvercry) are applying a theory of time that is not constant to the Chrono Universe. When Robo returns home, he returns to a future where "he" might not exist, but he (as he knows himself) will arrive and exist there. I know that's confusing. I'll try to clarify,
Quote from: Doan/Robo Paradox
We will call the Robo that travels with Crono and Crew, A1.
We will call the Robo that is affected by changes in a dimension's time stream, A2.
When Lavos is destroyed, the robot factories will never be overrun by Mother Brain because the humans will be alive to manage them.
No Mother Brain means A2 would likely have his orginal, human designed, programing. ("Likely" because we must assume Mother Brain doesn't gain control through a violent takeover a la "Matrix" or "Terminator," and that Prometheus droids are created at all. We assume because Chrono Cross tells us we should.)
When A1 comes to the future, both A1 and A2 will exist. They neither cancel each other out, nor create a paradox. They simply exist as beings from different dimensions.
Should A1 come to the future and A2 not exist, A1 will still exist. Saying that A1 would dissappear would be equivalent to saying that Frog disappears when he travels to 1000 AD. Saying that A2 would disappear would be equivalent to saying the Time Egg is bogus.
I hope I clarified my point.
Time Traveler's Immunity does not exist in the sense that it's being used in this topic. TTI is an observer's view of a change in dimensions, not a law of occurance. The time traveler is not affected by shifts in time currents because he or she hails from another dimension -- even though the dimension is almost precisely the same. All possibilities mannifest themselves in the multiverse. By traveling back in time (up stream), a time traveler leaves his or her original dimension for a dimension whose only difference is that the time traveler appears spontaneously in a different time.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: December 02, 2005, 10:37:45 am »
Ayla's comments about Lavos were directed at the brilliant, growing red star in the night sky. All through out the 65 million BC time period, Lavos is there in the sky -- Ayla did not make up the name on the spot. If Lavos was traveling at the speed of the common meteor, then Ayla may have had at least a year (it seems Lavos had his own glow, like a comet) to name the "Big Fire."
Doan is from a dimension where the world is still destroyed (unless fashion in the future has reverted back to the Dark Ages). He would have to have been brought back before Lavos was destroyed and Crono and Crew lost the ability to visit the destroyed future. I can't say who did this. Personally, I don't think the programers much cared for the specifics behind having Doan at the Moonlight Parade, it simply made a good ending having him there.
The Temporal Inertia theory is not an applicable theory to the Chrono Universe because no where else are changes gradual then the Marle paradox. The theory is also not constant to our own universe. "Back to the Future" needed a Temporal Inertia Theory because without one, the movie would be impossible as any changes to the traveller makes to the past should have no affect on himself or poccessions he brings. You could call this Time Travelers Immunity, but TTI really doesn't exist as this is just a biproduct of 5th dimensional travel.
Doan is from a dimension where the world is still destroyed (unless fashion in the future has reverted back to the Dark Ages). He would have to have been brought back before Lavos was destroyed and Crono and Crew lost the ability to visit the destroyed future. I can't say who did this. Personally, I don't think the programers much cared for the specifics behind having Doan at the Moonlight Parade, it simply made a good ending having him there.
The Temporal Inertia theory is not an applicable theory to the Chrono Universe because no where else are changes gradual then the Marle paradox. The theory is also not constant to our own universe. "Back to the Future" needed a Temporal Inertia Theory because without one, the movie would be impossible as any changes to the traveller makes to the past should have no affect on himself or poccessions he brings. You could call this Time Travelers Immunity, but TTI really doesn't exist as this is just a biproduct of 5th dimensional travel.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: November 24, 2005, 04:51:26 pm »
You cannot apply general laws of anime to the Chrono Universe. First of all Chrono Trigger is older than many animes. Second of all, it's its own game. It isn't dependant on anime plot lines.
Zaper, before you make another post, make sure you re-read the entire topic conversation. Lucca doesn't have to be proven wrong by a direct quote. If I say that pigs fly, and no one corrects me, pigs won't suddenly be able to fly. What everyone is saying is that Lucca isn't right 100% of the time. She first opened a gate by sheer accident. She never explains her theories of time to gamers. What Lucca says to Robo is out of worry. Anyone with loved ones can relate to the fact that sometimes worry exists for irrational things.
Zaper, you are getting confused by the examples people are using to prove you wrong. When they say "By defeating Lavos, Crono and Co. never see him. Thus, Lavos lives," they are using an ABSURD situation to examplify the fact that Lucca is wrong about time. Lavos is gone in Crono's dimension. Marle's case was an extrordinary situation that never appears again in the game.
Zaper, before you make another post, make sure you re-read the entire topic conversation. Lucca doesn't have to be proven wrong by a direct quote. If I say that pigs fly, and no one corrects me, pigs won't suddenly be able to fly. What everyone is saying is that Lucca isn't right 100% of the time. She first opened a gate by sheer accident. She never explains her theories of time to gamers. What Lucca says to Robo is out of worry. Anyone with loved ones can relate to the fact that sometimes worry exists for irrational things.
Zaper, you are getting confused by the examples people are using to prove you wrong. When they say "By defeating Lavos, Crono and Co. never see him. Thus, Lavos lives," they are using an ABSURD situation to examplify the fact that Lucca is wrong about time. Lavos is gone in Crono's dimension. Marle's case was an extrordinary situation that never appears again in the game.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / 2 Time Traveling Theories
« on: November 22, 2005, 12:53:11 am »Quote from: Zaperking
Yeah, and that was called Chrono Cross.....
So a sequel to Chrono Cross then. It doesn't matter. Inconstancy allows for additional games in a series to clarify a mystery, elaborate on a mystery, or deepen a mystery. Clearly Chrono Cross deepened the mystery, but it didn't bar future games within the Chrono Universe.
A plot hole is more like an access point than a hole. Hole implies mistake. Think of these "gaps" as blank pages in a book: they have yet to be written, and have yet to be explained.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: November 21, 2005, 11:04:27 pm »
Again, magic makes the Chrono Universe escape loop holes. Gamers can't necessarily complain that the makers of the Chrono Universe make no sense with the application of their physics because magic makes no sense. However, I don't think magic was Balthazar’s field of expertise. Balthazar (please correct me if I err) was the Guru of Reason. He dealt with physical reality. The blackbird, a giant flying MACHINE, was Balthazar’s invention. If the man had interested himself in magic, he could have simply made a giant flying rug with maybe a hot tub. Surely the epoch was not dependant upon magic for its functions.
So much of the Enlightened One's world involved a strange coexistence of magic and machine. The floating islands themselves bring to question what kept them afloat. But if they were magic, would they have fallen when Lavos emerged? We can accept that the Mountain of Woe was magic because the Guru of Life's escape seemed to break an enchantment. But couldn't a computer algorithm have completed such a similar self-destruct command? The Enlightened Ones note that the only thing that differentiated them from the Earthbound Ones was magic, but did magic come before machine? Or did machine allow for the discovery of magic, which then led to the oppression of the magic-less Earthbound Ones?
I feel that machine came first. It seems impossible that magic should have been discovered without sensors to identify Lavos. Similarly, the Enlightened Ones note that it was under Queen Zeal that magic truly flourished, hinting that magic was still a rising power that no one yet fully understood. The Gurus' ranges of expertise were of philosophy and machine, not the super natural. The Earthbound Ones would have been the underclass, they did not have access to resources or methods to process them; the elite of the society then profited under the discovery of magic, furthering the divide between the classes.
Time travel never associates with the super natural in the Chrono Universe. Lavos can have an affect on the time stream merely because of the immense energy he has collected. Whatever the "entity" is, its affect on time is most likely due to an enormous energy supply or sixth dimensional control.
The elements of Chrono Cross are not super natural as they are man made. They probably are similar to the precursors of the Enlightened One's magic. Remember, history always repeats itself. As elements have prices, the underclass would get cut out of the benefits. With further and further advancements, elements would become magic. Maybe Lavos' destruction of the world exists as a way of keeping magic in check? Maybe Lavos are sent to every new planet. Maybe something triggered the Chrono Lavos to behave in a way that did not suite its purpose, requiring its elimination. Like a corrupt program is eliminated in a computer, or a dysfunctional cell within the human body. A destroyed Lavos would then require a replacement -- something stronger and more stable.
Or maybe Lavos simply represents a malevolent alien species driven only by the instinct to reproduce. In that sense, Lavos is a planetary virus.
The Gateways that Crono and crew use cannot be the only ones in existence. The Epoch probably uses other gateways that exist in the sky or may even be too small for the crew to see (they need to see a gate after all, before they can use it with the key). Now why it had to be those set times... well will let Chrono Cross sequel tell us. If you go by the theory that Lavos was intentionally placed on earth as a safety against magic's misuse, then those times are the most relevant and vital to addressing the issue and CONVINCING Crono and crew that something in their world needs fixing. If Crono and crew went too far when they destroyed Lavos (perhaps they were meant to weaken it), then maybe their elimination would be required, and a grand dimensional manipulation required to set the necessary safeties back on line.
Or Lavos is just the villain for a clever video game that convinces its players that there are worlds within worlds and what they play is only scratching the surface of the game's true story.
Or I digress. Time, is what we will it to be. Its conception in the Chrono Universe was arbitrary. Marle is affected by a paradox that occurs no where else. Were the theories of Chrono Trigger in check, destroying Lavos should have made everything the crew had done disappear (as Lavos had never destroyed the world, thus Crono and crew would never have journeyed). If we accept that a change in dimension can eliminate such paradoxes, then why was Marle removed? We must then accept that Chrono Time is not our own time and thus indefinable.
Or we say that some exterior being removed Marle. Recall what she says. She wasn't dead. Her consciousness was intact. And yet she disappeared from the space time continuum into nothing. Not long afterward, she reappears. Who then could have removed her, creating this non-sensible seeming paradox? The "entity"? A Crono and crew that comes from a future time? Another group?
Or maybe the programmers just wanted an engaging mini plot, never suspecting the damage their choices would wreck further along the time line.
So much of the Enlightened One's world involved a strange coexistence of magic and machine. The floating islands themselves bring to question what kept them afloat. But if they were magic, would they have fallen when Lavos emerged? We can accept that the Mountain of Woe was magic because the Guru of Life's escape seemed to break an enchantment. But couldn't a computer algorithm have completed such a similar self-destruct command? The Enlightened Ones note that the only thing that differentiated them from the Earthbound Ones was magic, but did magic come before machine? Or did machine allow for the discovery of magic, which then led to the oppression of the magic-less Earthbound Ones?
I feel that machine came first. It seems impossible that magic should have been discovered without sensors to identify Lavos. Similarly, the Enlightened Ones note that it was under Queen Zeal that magic truly flourished, hinting that magic was still a rising power that no one yet fully understood. The Gurus' ranges of expertise were of philosophy and machine, not the super natural. The Earthbound Ones would have been the underclass, they did not have access to resources or methods to process them; the elite of the society then profited under the discovery of magic, furthering the divide between the classes.
Time travel never associates with the super natural in the Chrono Universe. Lavos can have an affect on the time stream merely because of the immense energy he has collected. Whatever the "entity" is, its affect on time is most likely due to an enormous energy supply or sixth dimensional control.
The elements of Chrono Cross are not super natural as they are man made. They probably are similar to the precursors of the Enlightened One's magic. Remember, history always repeats itself. As elements have prices, the underclass would get cut out of the benefits. With further and further advancements, elements would become magic. Maybe Lavos' destruction of the world exists as a way of keeping magic in check? Maybe Lavos are sent to every new planet. Maybe something triggered the Chrono Lavos to behave in a way that did not suite its purpose, requiring its elimination. Like a corrupt program is eliminated in a computer, or a dysfunctional cell within the human body. A destroyed Lavos would then require a replacement -- something stronger and more stable.
Or maybe Lavos simply represents a malevolent alien species driven only by the instinct to reproduce. In that sense, Lavos is a planetary virus.
The Gateways that Crono and crew use cannot be the only ones in existence. The Epoch probably uses other gateways that exist in the sky or may even be too small for the crew to see (they need to see a gate after all, before they can use it with the key). Now why it had to be those set times... well will let Chrono Cross sequel tell us. If you go by the theory that Lavos was intentionally placed on earth as a safety against magic's misuse, then those times are the most relevant and vital to addressing the issue and CONVINCING Crono and crew that something in their world needs fixing. If Crono and crew went too far when they destroyed Lavos (perhaps they were meant to weaken it), then maybe their elimination would be required, and a grand dimensional manipulation required to set the necessary safeties back on line.
Or Lavos is just the villain for a clever video game that convinces its players that there are worlds within worlds and what they play is only scratching the surface of the game's true story.
Or I digress. Time, is what we will it to be. Its conception in the Chrono Universe was arbitrary. Marle is affected by a paradox that occurs no where else. Were the theories of Chrono Trigger in check, destroying Lavos should have made everything the crew had done disappear (as Lavos had never destroyed the world, thus Crono and crew would never have journeyed). If we accept that a change in dimension can eliminate such paradoxes, then why was Marle removed? We must then accept that Chrono Time is not our own time and thus indefinable.
Or we say that some exterior being removed Marle. Recall what she says. She wasn't dead. Her consciousness was intact. And yet she disappeared from the space time continuum into nothing. Not long afterward, she reappears. Who then could have removed her, creating this non-sensible seeming paradox? The "entity"? A Crono and crew that comes from a future time? Another group?
Or maybe the programmers just wanted an engaging mini plot, never suspecting the damage their choices would wreck further along the time line.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / 2 Time Traveling Theories
« on: November 21, 2005, 04:10:15 am »
Its been my experience that plot holes mean room for sequels.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: November 21, 2005, 04:03:23 am »
I forget whose idea the gravitational loop is, but it is not mine. You could probably find out who it is by looking through the archives of Discover magazine or Technology Review magazine (I forget which).
The multiverse is physicist David Deutsch's theory. Its principles were settled by Sir Isaac Newton, Max Planck, and Albert Einstein.
Application of the multiverse theory and the definitions of time are mine. My point is, if you wish argue about the accuracy or validity of my points, these who I state here are my sources, take up any factual issues you have with what I've posted, with who is most directly associated with your issue. (I don't want to prove that time travel using a gravitational loop is possible).
The multiverse is physicist David Deutsch's theory. Its principles were settled by Sir Isaac Newton, Max Planck, and Albert Einstein.
Application of the multiverse theory and the definitions of time are mine. My point is, if you wish argue about the accuracy or validity of my points, these who I state here are my sources, take up any factual issues you have with what I've posted, with who is most directly associated with your issue. (I don't want to prove that time travel using a gravitational loop is possible).
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Chrono Time
« on: November 21, 2005, 03:51:35 am »
It is extremely difficult to apply conventional theories of time to the Chrono Universe. Its time physics follow their own laws because they were written that way. Think of every video game as being like a book from Myst: each represents a wholly independent reality which obeys the laws of physics established by its authors.
According to our physics, the Chrono Universe is either impossible or at least vastly over simplified. The details of current theory are murky, nigh impossible to verify, and still hotly debated by scientists as they comprise the core of one the most controversial issues of modern physics.
Chrono Trigger heavily involves the use of a time machine, however currently there is only one design that’s been deemed plausible. The machine design relies on a gravitational loop, which anchors the machine between two points in time (So the machine can only go as far back into the past as its creation, and only go so far into the future as the present). The loop exists for the time machine itself to exist. It cannot go further into the past than its creation because its method of transportation didn't exist thus, it cannot travel. If the Epoch was based on gravity, it could technically only move between 12,000 BC and 2300 AD (assuming that Belthazar had finished the loop at least in 12,000 BC). Odds are the Epoch does not utilize a gravity loop, but then modern physics has currently no other candidates for the job of time travel.
However, assuming that we have a vehicle capable of uninhibited time travel and using the theory of Multiverse. You could return to your time of origin with any changes you made to the past in effect. However, to change the past would be to alter your dimension. Your being is super dimensional, so you are unaffected. Killing your grandfather doesn't eliminate you; it eliminates the "you" of that dimension. In essence, by killing your grandfather, you have made a branch in time, or a slide in dimensions. Should you return to your time of origin, everything that would have resulted from actions of your grandfather has changed. You have merely traveled along the timeline of your "new" dimension. Going back to prevent yourself from killing your grandfather causes a similar dimensional shift. You can only go forward in these dimensional shifts, not back (you don't have the means). Dimensional shifts represent the "fifth" dimension of observation, or motion along and between alternate dimensions and time. (I follow with a brief outline of the dimensions)
[First dimension: a line, we observe motion along one axis; second: a single plane, we observe motion along and between two axes; third: two perpendicular planes, we observe motion along and between three axes; fourth: time, we observe the motion of motion (along and between three axes) along a single superior axis; fifth: multiverse, we observe the motion of motion (along and between three axes) along and between two superior axes; sixth: I have not capacity of explaining this, but theoretically we should observe the motion of motion (along and between three axes) along three superior axes. These are also the dimensions of physics, not of geometry. In geometry, the fourth dimension is a tesseract a.k.a., a hypercube.]
The Multiverse Theory is the application of Quantum Mechanics to macro-physics: just as a photon can occur in multiple instances, so do we occur in multiple dimensions. Just as a photon projected at a sensor is fated to land at point B, we are fated to die; however just as a photon seems to occur in multiple existences at the same time, so do we. Therefore, in one dimension the photon hits point B, and in another it hits point A (We however can still observe this and this principle lies at the heart of contemporary speculation, debate, and theory of micro-physics, and represents one of the principles that Einstein died trying to reconcile with macro-physics). So it is that our death as multiple instances to occur. We choose our course along the fourth and fifth dimensions (though we are incapable of moving backward), and Fate affects more-so the creation of alternate dimensions.
In Multiverse Theory we can reconcile Chrono Trigger. Chrono Cross, however, requires uninhibited motion between two dimensions that accounts for their respective motion along the fourth and fifth dimensional axes. For Chrono Cross to occur, sixth dimensional transportation would be required (the portal at Opassa beach which relies on the intervention of a sixth dimensional being).
For the purpose of the Chrono Universe, time gates are plausible as portals to set time periods. Their motion is linear along the time axis and thus can occur in parallel worlds. The End of Time exists in the context of Chrono Trigger, if we accept that at some point all time lines end, regardless of their dimensional situation. This endpoint exists as the End of Time and would be much like the void after a waterfall. The Bend in Time would be like an eddy, where currents from one time stream swirl, giving access to multiple time points within one dimension.
Or we could say that Chrono Universe physics are similar but different from our own because that's the way that they were written, and go along our merry way. In the end, the designers of the Chrono Universe have creative license. They can say that there exists a continent in Chrono Cross that wasn’t in Chrono Trigger. They can say that time turns lead into gold on the third Tuesday of every year in which the digits add up to 66. It’s their world. We simply chose to see it in the context of our own.
According to our physics, the Chrono Universe is either impossible or at least vastly over simplified. The details of current theory are murky, nigh impossible to verify, and still hotly debated by scientists as they comprise the core of one the most controversial issues of modern physics.
Chrono Trigger heavily involves the use of a time machine, however currently there is only one design that’s been deemed plausible. The machine design relies on a gravitational loop, which anchors the machine between two points in time (So the machine can only go as far back into the past as its creation, and only go so far into the future as the present). The loop exists for the time machine itself to exist. It cannot go further into the past than its creation because its method of transportation didn't exist thus, it cannot travel. If the Epoch was based on gravity, it could technically only move between 12,000 BC and 2300 AD (assuming that Belthazar had finished the loop at least in 12,000 BC). Odds are the Epoch does not utilize a gravity loop, but then modern physics has currently no other candidates for the job of time travel.
However, assuming that we have a vehicle capable of uninhibited time travel and using the theory of Multiverse. You could return to your time of origin with any changes you made to the past in effect. However, to change the past would be to alter your dimension. Your being is super dimensional, so you are unaffected. Killing your grandfather doesn't eliminate you; it eliminates the "you" of that dimension. In essence, by killing your grandfather, you have made a branch in time, or a slide in dimensions. Should you return to your time of origin, everything that would have resulted from actions of your grandfather has changed. You have merely traveled along the timeline of your "new" dimension. Going back to prevent yourself from killing your grandfather causes a similar dimensional shift. You can only go forward in these dimensional shifts, not back (you don't have the means). Dimensional shifts represent the "fifth" dimension of observation, or motion along and between alternate dimensions and time. (I follow with a brief outline of the dimensions)
[First dimension: a line, we observe motion along one axis; second: a single plane, we observe motion along and between two axes; third: two perpendicular planes, we observe motion along and between three axes; fourth: time, we observe the motion of motion (along and between three axes) along a single superior axis; fifth: multiverse, we observe the motion of motion (along and between three axes) along and between two superior axes; sixth: I have not capacity of explaining this, but theoretically we should observe the motion of motion (along and between three axes) along three superior axes. These are also the dimensions of physics, not of geometry. In geometry, the fourth dimension is a tesseract a.k.a., a hypercube.]
The Multiverse Theory is the application of Quantum Mechanics to macro-physics: just as a photon can occur in multiple instances, so do we occur in multiple dimensions. Just as a photon projected at a sensor is fated to land at point B, we are fated to die; however just as a photon seems to occur in multiple existences at the same time, so do we. Therefore, in one dimension the photon hits point B, and in another it hits point A (We however can still observe this and this principle lies at the heart of contemporary speculation, debate, and theory of micro-physics, and represents one of the principles that Einstein died trying to reconcile with macro-physics). So it is that our death as multiple instances to occur. We choose our course along the fourth and fifth dimensions (though we are incapable of moving backward), and Fate affects more-so the creation of alternate dimensions.
In Multiverse Theory we can reconcile Chrono Trigger. Chrono Cross, however, requires uninhibited motion between two dimensions that accounts for their respective motion along the fourth and fifth dimensional axes. For Chrono Cross to occur, sixth dimensional transportation would be required (the portal at Opassa beach which relies on the intervention of a sixth dimensional being).
For the purpose of the Chrono Universe, time gates are plausible as portals to set time periods. Their motion is linear along the time axis and thus can occur in parallel worlds. The End of Time exists in the context of Chrono Trigger, if we accept that at some point all time lines end, regardless of their dimensional situation. This endpoint exists as the End of Time and would be much like the void after a waterfall. The Bend in Time would be like an eddy, where currents from one time stream swirl, giving access to multiple time points within one dimension.
Or we could say that Chrono Universe physics are similar but different from our own because that's the way that they were written, and go along our merry way. In the end, the designers of the Chrono Universe have creative license. They can say that there exists a continent in Chrono Cross that wasn’t in Chrono Trigger. They can say that time turns lead into gold on the third Tuesday of every year in which the digits add up to 66. It’s their world. We simply chose to see it in the context of our own.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / An incomplete theory of time
« on: November 21, 2005, 03:49:06 am »
It is extremely difficult to apply conventional theories of time to the Chrono Universe. Its time physics follow their own laws because they were written that way. Think of every video game as being like a book from Myst: each represents a wholly independent reality which obeys the laws of physics established by its authors.
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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Lavos in 600AD
« on: November 21, 2005, 12:55:05 am »
Lavos also didn't emerge near death mountain either. According to the movie that Crono and Co. see, Lavos emerged close to where Guardia would have been.
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