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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: New Translation vs Translation Differences Article
« on: December 11, 2008, 11:30:33 pm »
Yeah, he was called Bandeau in the SNES version and Robo always has said Lavos erupts at 1 24, only now I think it is made more clear that it is 1:24 as in an hour and minute, not a month and date. I was never sure how to interpret it before.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Lynx/Dark Serge's Having Kid Around
« on: December 08, 2008, 12:41:09 am »
No one has addressed the real issue here. If Kid's pendant rewinds time so she does not remember being stabbed, and also does not remember that Serge and Lynx switched, when she wakes up later it should be very clear to her something is very wrong with Serge. He dresses completely differently, he ACTS completely different (I think he goes around terrorizing people in the cities with his shadow cats - at least Arni is afraid of him), and his goals would have changed a lot since the last memory of him. Yet she doesn't question any of this and continues to follow him around? I don't understand at all. You could say Dark Serge altered her memory using FATE, but if that's the case then the whole pendant part holds no relevance since FATE un-did her memories.
I never understood why Dark Serge became all mean anyway. He just suddenly goes around terrorizing people? I wonder why that is.
I never understood why Dark Serge became all mean anyway. He just suddenly goes around terrorizing people? I wonder why that is.
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: Guardia's Royal Crest
« on: December 05, 2008, 02:49:24 am »
I don't think it's a dragon you guys, I think it's supposed to be a representation of a dactyl. This would make more sense given that Ayla and Kino are Guardia's oldest ancestors and dactyl's were important to their society. I know it's not a big deal, but dragon could be just any old dragon, but if it is dactyls specifically then it seems a whole lot more significant and cooler =)
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: I don't understand King Guardia
« on: December 01, 2008, 06:26:32 pm »
I understand what you're saying, and yeah the trials go on for minutes because it's a game and we don't need an hour cutscene devoted to it, but I'm saying realistically even if the whole thing is a farce it'd take longer than just a couple hours and would be a big scandal, maybe like the OJ Simpson trial (lol), since it would be a first in the history of the country the king is thrown out. Just like how IMO the climb up Death Peak surely must have taken a couple days since it's comparable to climbing Everest or something. Death Peak was the largest mountain on the planet and it wasn't just a day's stroll to the summit.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / I don't understand King Guardia
« on: December 01, 2008, 04:39:51 pm »
I'm playing the CT DS and I re-did the rainbow shell sidequest for the millionth time and it reminded me of something I never understood for years. The king in 600 AD agrees to keep the rainbow shell and then Crono's party goes to 1000 AD Guardia castle and right away the current king is on trial. The chancellor claims he sold the shell, but the king denies it saying no shell even exists, so it's impossible he sold it. Even outside the courtroom Marle claims it's a scam because there's no shell.
Okay I can understand Marle getting confused about time travel changes, since she's the traveller, her memories may be different, but that doesn't explain the king's ignorance. As soon as the shell got to the castle in 600 AD from that moment forward time would change to allow the shell being kept there. What I mean is when King Guardia XXXIII (I think, the 1000 AD one) was born in whatever year, say 940 AD, he'd have grown up with the shell already being a family heirloom that has been there for over 300 years. So in other words he should be fully aware the shell is in the castle because he knows no other history.
The best I can compare it to is when you changed the Porre mayor. Once you give the wife the jerky in 600 AD time changes so the new mayor in 1000 AD knows no other reality other than him being too generous. So in that sense King Guardia knows no other reality other than having the shell be the family's heirloom.
Also, wouldn't the king being put on trial jeopardize the events from the beginning of the game? I mean realistically the trial must have been going on for more than just that day, so a week or so at least, I mean it IS the trial of the millennium really, the king is about to be dethroned and the kingdom overtaken. So wouldn't the king being on trial, possibly imprisoned, erase all the fighting he did with Marle at the beginning of the game since he was too preoccupied with other matters to argue with her? I mean Marle would remember it, but again, the King would have no recollection yet in the courtroom he seems to acknowledge it all.
Also it seems the king being on trial could jeopardize the fair, since with the kingdom in jeopardy who's going to set up a fair? It wouldn't have surprised me to go from 600 AD to 1000 AD and find the fair gone, since it was never set up to begin with given the current situation of the trial.
Okay I can understand Marle getting confused about time travel changes, since she's the traveller, her memories may be different, but that doesn't explain the king's ignorance. As soon as the shell got to the castle in 600 AD from that moment forward time would change to allow the shell being kept there. What I mean is when King Guardia XXXIII (I think, the 1000 AD one) was born in whatever year, say 940 AD, he'd have grown up with the shell already being a family heirloom that has been there for over 300 years. So in other words he should be fully aware the shell is in the castle because he knows no other history.
The best I can compare it to is when you changed the Porre mayor. Once you give the wife the jerky in 600 AD time changes so the new mayor in 1000 AD knows no other reality other than him being too generous. So in that sense King Guardia knows no other reality other than having the shell be the family's heirloom.
Also, wouldn't the king being put on trial jeopardize the events from the beginning of the game? I mean realistically the trial must have been going on for more than just that day, so a week or so at least, I mean it IS the trial of the millennium really, the king is about to be dethroned and the kingdom overtaken. So wouldn't the king being on trial, possibly imprisoned, erase all the fighting he did with Marle at the beginning of the game since he was too preoccupied with other matters to argue with her? I mean Marle would remember it, but again, the King would have no recollection yet in the courtroom he seems to acknowledge it all.
Also it seems the king being on trial could jeopardize the fair, since with the kingdom in jeopardy who's going to set up a fair? It wouldn't have surprised me to go from 600 AD to 1000 AD and find the fair gone, since it was never set up to begin with given the current situation of the trial.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: plot point I don't get (spoilers but doubtful)
« on: November 29, 2008, 11:08:13 pm »
The part about Magus delaying attacks or stalling for times makes sense, but it just gets me because towns people say they've been at war for "years", yet in the game Guardia is still intact and the mystics haven't really done ANYTHING (only recently kidnapped the queen). It's like how long can this guy stall for time before Ozzie and crew realize he's not got his heart into it and take matters into their own hands?
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: plot point I don't get (spoilers but doubtful)
« on: November 29, 2008, 04:37:39 pm »
Well whether it was some or all, it would really only take Flea (the most power I presume) to kill the king, change into a bat, and fly out the window.
I mean I know we wouldn't have as great a game then, but ignoring the game part and just looking at the story it would have made more sense.
I mean I know we wouldn't have as great a game then, but ignoring the game part and just looking at the story it would have made more sense.
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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / plot point I don't get (spoilers but doubtful)
« on: November 29, 2008, 04:16:08 pm »
Okay if the Mystics (not gonna call them fiends, bleh) can change their form to look like humans (the ones in the cathedral did, and Flea can) why didn't they just disguise themselves as Guardia guards and infiltrate the castle, kill the king, and take over? It'd have been so easy! Instead they have this roundabout plan of Yakra taking the queen and smashing the bridge (which to me still makes no sense, because then how can they get across themselves to attack the castle?). Plus, if they come out of the Magic Cave why did they leave Dorino and Porre alone? Those towns were completely defenseless yet they weren't ransacked at all.
I don't know, can someone explain the Mystic's line of thinking, because from a tactical standpoint they really blew it.
I don't know, can someone explain the Mystic's line of thinking, because from a tactical standpoint they really blew it.
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