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Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => Polling => Topic started by: utunnels on February 20, 2010, 09:52:10 pm
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OK, you can discuss anything related in this topic, either Trigger or Cross.
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I guess it would depend on the game system (enemies relatively level up with the player, or if enemies have fixed, static strengths that don't change). If enemies have fixed strengths, then a harder NG+ might be more fun, but I would leave it as an option. It's fun in some RPGs for me to use NG+ to 1-hit bosses and so on.
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Oh, relatively level up is an interesting idea, like FF8.
In Cross's case, there are many elements that you may not use during the whole game play, like magic/physical immune, element recharge, status change... maybe a harder gameplay can force the player to use them.
I was thinking about enhancing enemies according to how many stars you get. But what's point to get more stars if it becomes harder?
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You can do it yourself by un-equipping stuff...It's what I do in CC so that I can actually survive the tedium of NG+ runs...Time Shifter is what should definitely be in EVERY game that has a NG+ feature though. More games should incorporate things that are already emulator standards...
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I say do it the way Golden Sun does. After you've beaten the game for the first time, you are presented with a few choices when you make a new game. First is Easy Mode, which is essentially NG+. You get all the levels, stats, and spells as your last save file. The second is Hard Mode. You start at level 1 again, but the monsters get a lot harder. It does lead to a few instances of grinding, but it makes the boss battles very exciting.
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It'd be good to have a choice. It's pretty fun to go through with Beserkers and wipe most beasts out...even more so to do that with Lavos. :) However, it would be nice to make it harder without starting a new game or using weaker weapons. Actually, I think I'd want to make it so the enemies are harder, but the regular beasts are still easy.
I didn't vote in the poll because none of them really applied.
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Perhaps instead of having the regular enemies be easy they could incorporate the Mother/Earthbound series' instant win easy battle mechanic (which I've always been amazed hasn't been stolen by every other RPG out there since)...
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Perhaps instead of having the regular enemies be easy they could incorporate the Mother/Earthbound series' instant win easy battle mechanic (which I've always been amazed hasn't been stolen by every other RPG out there since)...
Yeah, it is so unique. I don't recall any other RPG used that feature.
Though some Heroes of Might and Magic games allow auto-battle, but that is not the same thing.
I'm always thinking players should have more fun using elements, but when you have all kinds of strong elements, the game just begins to become too easy.
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Voted for the first option, point being getting new endings. If you are talking relative leveling - like everything around you levels as you level, I say "boo!" and with great force! Sheeeeeit, at some point or not it feels good to mow folks over. In a game with lots of endings, more than 3, it can be tedious to do the whoooooooooole thing over again. And again. etc etc etc But I do think that once or twice for a new ending is ok.
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Whenever I here new game+ it sounds like a new game where you still have all your stats and powers from the original saved file (which it is). Then there's hard/expert/elite mode etc. which is completely different. You are sent back to level one and all the enemies are ridiculously stronger. Now if combining the two is what Uttunels is getting at then that's kind of pointless because everything is balanced out again. The only difference between this new game and a regular one is that everyone immediately starts out with the ability to blow stuff up.
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i would like it if it were like ff8. the beasties at the beginning of the game werent still beginning of the game level beasties and the beasties at the end of the game would eat you no matter what.
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Yeah, it seems like these should all be options that pop up at the beginning like Active & Wait...Enemies that level & set enemy levels (Static & Set?)...Start with old stats & start fresh (New+ & New-?)...Or maybe a setting for some kind of New++ which would level enemies at some preset advantage (10+ your level or 2x your level or some such) and still allow for your old stats...*shrugs*
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Perhaps instead of having the regular enemies be easy they could incorporate the Mother/Earthbound series' instant win easy battle mechanic (which I've always been amazed hasn't been stolen by every other RPG out there since)...
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has wondered this
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Interesting poll ! I choose harder because it could really add to the challenge ; CT has very few difficult bosses. This is element that made Diablo II a successful game ( the possibility to restart with your current state in a much higher difficulty). I don't see why it couldn't work with jRPGs especially when you can max your character that much.
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Interesting poll ! I choose harder because it could really add to the challenge ; CT has very few difficult bosses. This is element that made Diablo II a successful game ( the possibility to restart with your current state in a much higher difficulty). I don't see why it couldn't work with jRPGs especially when you can max your character that much.
This.
If enemies are harder, you should also been given the chance to get better equipment not available in the first playthrough, much like in the Diablo series.
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Why not? You already beat the game and are going back through it with your levels and everything the same as when you finished the game. There's no challenge there except to find endings you haven't seen before or push yourself to level 99. I honestly think it should be the next step after the end of the game and become harder and harder to match your level for consistent levels of difficulty and challenge. I mean, it's great getting those one-hit kills in; but I'd much rather have stuff my level to fight that's more of a challenge and gives better exp points, etc. And, of course, you should be able to unlock newer weapons and items, etc. that weren't available the first time through. (like Ayla's bronze fist at level 99; I mean, who really goes through and gets to level 99 the first time they play through the game? There's a new game+ for that, after all.)
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I do like the idea of increased difficulty, but you'd need increased room for growth as well, a 3 digit hp for example, with all stats capable of going higher than CT's (or CC's) surprisingly low maximum values.
Also I'd really like to see more games similar to the original NES Zelda, where the new game+ (I know it's not called + in Zelda) isn't exactly the same game. Bonus content and extra endings are cool, so is the DS extra content (in theory), but really making the fact that you beat the game effect the plot and make it different (maybe the main character suspects a time loop after experiencing severe deja-vu) would be ideal, it would add replay value and maybe word of mouth would be important to video games again for once since the internet.
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There may or may not be a game mod that certain individuals worked on and may or may not be working on that involved coding written that increases the difficulty of the NG+.... *whistles*
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I think that current setting is fine, a new game+ is aimed at getting new endings after all.