Chrono Compendium
News and Updates => Site Updates => Topic started by: Agent 12 on June 05, 2009, 03:11:23 am
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I thought about taking a couple days off then realized I'm going on vacation later this month and want to have these out before I leave. Thus I bring you Chapter 7. What happened to our heroes??? What happened to the timeline???
Only one way to find out:
Video 20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyGE56y5GsY&feature=PlayList&p=E952926C2A6E7039&index=20&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&fmt=18)
Video 21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3-8CKPyzaA&feature=PlayList&p=E952926C2A6E7039&index=21&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&fmt=18)
Video 22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mKp76UxAo&feature=PlayList&p=E952926C2A6E7039&index=22&fmt=18)
Congrats you get a little bonus footage from chapter 8 since 7 ends in the middle of a video.
--JP
EDIT: Playlist doesn't seem to be working correctly will fix soon. Playlist is fixed playnext=?? is just a boolean.......whoops
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This ones for you Mikisho.
--JP
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Oh boy, you went ahead and released after all!
YOU PEOPLE CAN'T MISS THESE CHAPTERS.
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Yea......even with one a day I won't get them all out in time :( I want to see as many of the reactions real time as I can.
--JP
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Awesome, basically the event beforehand serve as to have a nice look into each character , the problem is do you include Ayla's too? How about Leah, who rumored to be Ayla's mother?
I hope there is a footage showing her past and her characteristic
March into the footage ~~~~
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I shall not miss it, I must say the music is godly~You guys have a great taste in music. :o
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I'm looking forward to Chapter 8 for a couple of fairly big reasons. I won't spoil them here, though I will have a couple questions for you guys tomorrow, depending on what the commentary for those parts is.
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Hehe, I started watching them before you made this topic...
...and possibly before the 3rd of the videos was posted. But maybe I just didn't see it. /shrug
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Wow... As Faust said in the comment on Part 22. The scene at the end of Marles story is truly amazing. I'm loking forward to Robo and Lucca's side story, because Robo is one of the characters I've had the most fun with in the past.
Also, Faust.... DID you have Ice 2 during that gameplay? I find it kind of hard for you not to, seeing as it's a new game plus....
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I must say the music is godly~You guys have a great taste in music.
What's amazing is how much of the music overlaid in these chapters is from Claado Shou (of Chrono Symphonic fame!), specifically for CE! I'm not sure what he had in mind for the uses, but his works really snapped into place here. By the time the CE team ordered up a video walkthrough to accompany the projected release, they realized that Claado Shou's music wouldn't make it in because it would have to be recomposed in MIDI and Claado Shou himself couldn't be contacted in time.
So what's an aspiring modder-turned-video-walkthrough-er to do but switch off all the music and shoop it in for the walkthrough? I threw some other tracks in there while I was at it. Too bad I didn't take the time to do more chapters like that, but the Emerald Dream ones really demanded this kind of treatment in my mind.
Mikisho, I did not end up with Ice 2 by the time I did the NG+ run-through, mostly because I didn't use Marle too much, eheh. It's actually a "Continue +"; in CE, you had the option to restart the game with any save data, which was pretty cool. I was in the middle of my third beta testing/preview footage run when the CE team decided they wanted a video walkthrough, so I fired up a Continue + from a 3/4 complete point in the game I think. What's kind of embarrassing is that later on you'll see where I hacked a savestate to get all of Ayla's techs so I could show them off without having to waste time grinding.
Oh snap, was that a spoiler?
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continue +?
--JP
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Interesting... Lol at A12 having no idea what you're talking about and it's his own game xD. Also, if you're able to sub in music, you should try subbing in Lavos' Theme during the epicness of part 19. If it isn't too much trouble :). Anway, I'm out til tomorrow night I guess xD. Also, A12, you should try maybe uploading two chapters a day if you get time. Like, one at mdnight like you are doing, and then one at noon or something. That way you get to see all the live reactions AND we et more CE. IT'S WIN WIN!!!
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Agreed Mikisho, we are, afterall 'hardcore consumer' hint hint
Don't take your word away, A12 :mrgreen:
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continue +?
...apparently the best coding accident you've ever done? :D It totally was not in CT to my knowledge, but it totally was in CE. I'm not sure if you meant to have it in the full game though.
Also, if you're able to sub in music, you should try subbing in Lavos' Theme during the epicness of part 19.
The problem is I need an audio track with just natural in-game sound effects, and I never thought to do that before the C&D. The idea was sort of a one-shot tribute to the Emerald Dream chapters. However, I think Geiger or JCE3000GT had a Chrono Trigger sound sample/instrument pack laying around somewhere...it's possible I could fake it with a hella lot of elbow grease.
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Awesome vids, I'm addicted to CE.
I wonder how many people will watch the whole game twice O_O
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continue +?
Oh, wait. It might not have actually been called "Continue +," like on the startup screen. I think I just call it that because you can load it from an in-progress game. I might be getting confused with Chrono Cross, which I could have sworn had a feature actually called Continue +. Unless I'm making that up too 8)
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No Faust your just being crazy...
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What's amazing is how much of the music overlaid in these chapters is from Claado Shou (of Chrono Symphonic fame!), specifically for CE! I'm not sure what he had in mind for the uses, but his works really snapped into place here.
"Crimson Echoes" - Main theme of Crimson Echoes
"Sheltering Light" - Theme of **********
"Vortices and Flame" - Theme of dark **********
"Cerulean Shadows" - King Zeal's theme
"Battle 3" - Actually meant to be the regular battle theme
"Modus Dissonantiae" - Porre Agent's theme
"Chronopolis" - Theme of Chronopolis
"Moment of Truth" - Used for revelations
"Peaceless Providence" - Theme of 1 A.D.
********** is a location that didn't make it into the final iteration of the plot for various reasons. It had an awesome name though, but I'll keep it under wraps I guess.
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I swear...when I got to the part about Ann Guardia I thought you guys were going to make Marle pull off a Fry (Futurama) and become her own ancestor...that would be messed up haha...
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Ayla died? Or was it just the loss of the flame? Either way, I felt this could have been better. And datacube? That better come back it baffles me! Also it would help to explain how there is a future if Lavos is still in the Earth and hasn't destroyed it yet in the 24th century. And where are the Dragonians? Was the blue guy the first one. Next Technology? I thought tech was only available in the human timeline. Next that robot was too compliant to believe their story. Then again, I'm just a critic.
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Hahaha! I just finished watching this, and then I went to DeviantArt and looked at the Daily Deviations...and lo and behold...! Robo (http://codegeorge.deviantart.com/art/Robo-Sprite-Chrono-Trigger-100113890)!
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I swear...when I got to the part about Ann Guardia I thought you guys were going to make Marle pull off a Fry (Futurama) and become her own ancestor...that would be messed up haha...
lol
but yeah, awesome job on these chapters. It is amazing to see just how much Lavos effected the time line. without it, modern era humanity would not have existed, so in a way in CT (as far as the story in CE is concerned) you really kill your savior.
grat job on the story though, its a+ stuff here.
@ZealKnight
dont think of it within the contexts of the old CT story line. this is a much different future here. One in which Lavos was killed in 65,000,000 BC. So Zeal never fell and the Reptities were not wiped out entirely (that last part bout the reptites is just speculation on my part).
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They didn't take Lavos out. Only the Frozen Flame. King Zeal says he wants to destroy him, but we have no idea if he actually did. At least not yet.
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They didn't take Lavos out. Only the Frozen Flame. King Zeal says he wants to destroy him, but we have no idea if he actually did. At least not yet.
theres a little thing called Foreshadowing that give people a flexible way to interpret things that might happen. I am just foreshadowing that we find out that in this timeline King Zeal did in fact complete his mission.
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WRGFRGRHTGHZHHSHTH I'll be gone for a week and will miss all the juicy updates! D8
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ZealKnight, you know...it's not like this was the ending of the game. There are many things to come in later chapters. If you don't understand something now, chances are it'll be explained later.
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Aye, it's a bit of a challenge to scrutinize plot/story when we haven't seen the whole story yet...
Anyhow, very well done guys. The new music is great. And the 1AD maps (both the OW and the dungeons) were spectacular--I loved 'em. The mappers have done a phenomenal job of conveying time through visual aesthetics alone. Amazing.
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Yeah, don't hesitate to speculate or comment the story. It's nice to read these posts. I just felt like commenting because ALL of ZealKnight's questions are answered directly or indirectly later in the game :)
During development there were times where we would discuss our own story and see what consequences each event had and if there were plot-holes, just like we do for the official series in the Analysis forums. It was fun.
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I'm just so excited! It's the wait that keeps me angry and forces me to make these comments!
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I hear ya man, and these chapters seem to cut off at the most inopportune times. If you think about it, it's phenomenal that a project made by fans can be so damn intriguing. I constantly have to stop myself from just bombarding these topics with posts of enthusiasm and fanboy-ism.
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I swear...when I got to the part about Ann Guardia I thought you guys were going to make Marle pull off a Fry (Futurama) and become her own ancestor...that would be messed up haha...
lol
but yeah, awesome job on these chapters. It is amazing to see just how much Lavos effected the time line. without it, modern era humanity would not have existed, so in a way in CT (as far as the story in CE is concerned) you really kill your savior.
grat job on the story though, its a+ stuff here.
True that Lavos invoked evoluation on the apes, but I think that was basically an objective just to have the planet have more life force so that he can consume and then destroy the planet. He's a double edged sword.
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lol, I went on youtube and saw part 42 before it was made private XD. I didn't watch very much though. only like a few seconds. Wouldn't want to spoil the surprise ;) Im excited about how long this is going to be
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Oops, thanks for letting us know. I walked away from the upload and it finished without me even giving and approving a video description apparently. Eheh. It's private now.
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Dangit, I'm only on Video 8. You guys are moving so durn fast! Or maybe I'm just so durn slow...
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So I'm wondering, are we allowed to give constructive criticism? It's great and all and I love watching those videos, but there are some things that are just weird and I'd like to comment on them.
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We endorse freedom of speech here.
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On vid 20... the game just got so insanely good! I'm so sad I won't be able to play it!
I did NOT expect that turn of events at all, so good job writing you guys! * keeps watching *
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We endorse freedom of speech here.
Ok, I wanted to post now but I have to go. Also I'll have to rewatch everything in order to comment. :P
Get ready for a huge post and I hope you guys don't kill me xD. It's just a few things that need to be polished, I swear xD
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First of all, thank all of you guys, the videos show it was an amazing project, and the turn of events is awesome.
I want to know how many videos will take to complete the game's walkthrow? (an approximated number fits) and if Cedric is vanished or killed (lets assume he is), would Marle disappear as well or she would be unaffected thanks to TTI? (just a non intelligent fan question)
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*grabs pitch-fork* I make no promises... Also, I remember FW talkin about an added character when this first started. You know, trying to make everyone know exactly what they were missing *glare*. When abouts will that person be shown to us? Part 42? :P. Anyway, I wish I could say keep up the great work.... But in all honesty, theres no work to keep up at this point xD
Darn posters, posting when I'm trying to post >_>. Blackcaped, judging from how Marle died in the past when Queen Leene was killed, I don't think TTI applies here. I think it's the fact that this is a totally seperated timeline from what Marle is from. There fore, any lineage here would have no effect on her, because she herself doesn't really exist. Atleast, I THINK that's what they were going for. :P
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OMG OFF TOPIC EDIT!!!
Anywho, there's a guy on youtube who I know, and I got him to remix a couple songs from CC and CT for me for a movie I am making for school. His remix of At the bottom of night was... Amazing, and I thought you all should hear it. I don't like that omgwtf check this link out thread >_> So V if you move this edit there I swear to god *Shakes fist* And I know you would... Who am I kidding, probably still will.... *Sigh* anway here it is. It is truly phenomenal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8eFZYbfgwc
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I want to know how many videos will take to complete the game's walkthrow? (an approximated number fits)
I'm still processing the footage, but judging from the current pace I'd say 85 ~ 90 videos as a guestimate.
and if Cedric is vanished or killed (lets assume he is), would Marle disappear as well or she would be unaffected thanks to TTI?
I think the CE creators would say: unaffected due to Time Traveler's Immunity. CE plays up that concept hugely. Mikisho made a good point about Leene, and there's a ton of theory that's involved in getting around that little Yuji Horii-induced twist, though I'm not enough of a scholar on Chrono mechanics to answer how this differs from the Leene/Marle situation in CT.
Also, I remember FW talkin about an added character when this first started. You know, trying to make everyone know exactly what they were missing *glare*. When abouts will that person be shown to us? Part 42?
Eheheheh, I know exactly what you mean there, and that would have been awesome. However, that's not the character I was referring to. That chapter you caught a glimpse of is still really kickass though, especially due to extra touches that I think Chrono'99 added. That chapter really blows the player away too. Well, from Part 19 onward, I don't think there's a chapter of CE that doesn't blow the player away.
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cool. Like I said I didn't see much at all. I saw the screen pan down and then the group seeing that guy. (Sorry I can't be more distinctive xD. Spoilers and all. But yeah, only the first 3 or 4 seconds. So I'm hoping something happens there for me to be hiding for later xD)
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OMG OFF TOPIC EDIT!!!
Anywho, there's a guy on youtube who I know, and I got him to remix a couple songs from CC and CT for me for a movie I am making for school. His remix of At the bottom of night was... Amazing, and I thought you all should hear it. I don't like that omgwtf check this link out thread >_> So V if you move this edit there I swear to god *Shakes fist* And I know you would... Who am I kidding, probably still will.... *Sigh* anway here it is. It is truly phenomenal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8eFZYbfgwc
1) You're right, I would move it because like you said, it's off topic (I mean, c'mon, it's like you're basically using the popularity of these threads to push your friend's remixes? Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't sound too kosher)...
2) I wouldn't move it to the Check This Link Out thread because it's Chrono-related. You should have dumped it in the Submissions forum.
knuck, you probably won't get to this before you make your post, but I'll say it anyways...maybe you should make your comments either 1) in each YouTube vid or 2) in each respective Chapter thread depending on what your comments relate to...*shrugs*
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So I'm wondering, are we allowed to give constructive criticism? It's great and all and I love watching those videos, but there are some things that are just weird and I'd like to comment on them.
Yeah don't worry, everyone is allowed to criticize; you shouldn't even need to ask for the permission :)
You know, despite being part of the CE "dream team", even I think there are some things that were not done in the best way possible. Originally I planned to polish everything in the game, checking every single map and every single line of coding to polish the scenes or adjust the coordinates of everything everywhere. I did that up to Chapter 11 (which will be part 30-something on CEMemorial). After that, I realized that it would take too much time to continue that way up to the final chapter (23), considering my schedule in real life, so I stopped polishing everything and just focused on a few important scenes and the ending. And even then there are things that were added to Chapters 0-11 after I polished these chapters. So feel free to comment; I wonder if you'll manage to be more picky than me ;)
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It's true, I am using the popularity of these threads >_> but only because he is amazing and deserves recognition. I actually don't know the guy at all. Our relationship is purely youtube based xD. But yeah, thanks for not moving it I supppose ;) anwho, to get back on topic, seeing as I tend to get off quite frequently. A12, do you have any intentions of increasing the update rate? You knowm so that you can see the live reactions of all the videos before you leave?
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The music is freaking amazing. Is there anyway I can download it?
And the game is still as amazingly inventive as usual, great job.
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The music is freaking amazing. Is there anyway I can download it?
And the game is still as amazingly inventive as usual, great job.
omg quoting the post above me :shock:
Anywho, I'm assuming you're talking to me. Currently there is no way to download that song. He just uploaded it today >_> But some of his other great works are on his site. If you want the link, PM me, because I think V probably wants to kill me with all these off topic posts =x
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knuck, you probably won't get to this before you make your post, but I'll say it anyways...maybe you should make your comments either 1) in each YouTube vid or 2) in each respective Chapter thread depending on what your comments relate to...*shrugs*
I'll do it in each chapter. Youtube is a troll-heaven, so I'll avoid it.
Nice to see that you guys are interested in criticism. Made me want to post it today but I can't xD. Wait for my posts tomorrow~
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Glad I subscribe, part 52 is spoiled XD . I only watch half way through though, and only one important spoiler I found. No big deal really.
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Eheheheh, I don't know if I'm just having an unlucky day or if Youtube is totally erasing the settings I'm putting on the video. Well, all people found out was that *spoiler* and *spoiler.*
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awe man, I missed teh spoilers.. darn
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Mmkay, time to forget about the bad. Chapter 8 should be up within the next 10 or 15 minutes =)
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going to take me a second I just got back from a show and a lot happened...
--JP
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I understand. You aren't some kind of slave... As far as everyone here knows >_>.... But yeah, take your time, I got an amazing KH medley playing right now xD.
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First, I am just commenting on this because I just realized the vids were up and running, excelent work, this really looks superb compared to the 2.0 Demo, and the maps and dialoge are great, keep em' comin', it's like whatching a movie!
Two amazingly noob questions about some plot points... sorry if this is obvious or has been stated in another topic.
Why Magus is in 1199?-something- BC? didn't the events in the Dark Ages happened in 12k? wouldn't this mean that Magus is the past of the Fall of Zeal? however, everything(map, people, events) seems to suggest it is after the fall of Zeal...
Also, why does Glenn is still a Frog? for what I saw onthe videos, you took all the side-quests and the endings of the Rise of Porre and Chrono and Marle's wedding as "canon" for your story, but in that video Glenn is shown as human... is there a reason why he's still a frog? did I missed something? o_o
Anyways, terribly sorry for my questions, if they are concidered spoilers then please feel free to edit my post, and if this is something that has been already adressed in the past, I apologize, I haven't been able to use the internet for the past week.
Nevertheless, I thank you very much for this effort, the Crimson Memorial is definitely a HIT for me! And I am looking forward to see the story unfold to the very end(if that's posible), also... can we please get some aftermath clarifications? like what happened in the bonus endings or something like that?(if you aren't planning on making videos about them of course ;))
Anyways, this videos prove, beyond the shadow of the doubt, that Crimson Echoes has the right to be an equal to CT and CC, in terms of quality, and execution(thus far), I am sure the final product would have been breath taking... hell, 98% is already breath taking. just please keep this story going as far as it goes... and if the ending is not captured on video, please make a topic about it, I just need to know what happens. thanks in advance for your responses n_n
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Why Magus is in 1199?-something- BC? didn't the events in the Dark Ages happened in 12k? wouldn't this mean that Magus is the past of the Fall of Zeal? however, everything(map, people, events) seems to suggest it is after the fall of Zeal...
11995 BC.
because from BC to AD, time counts backwards.
12000, 11999, 11998, 11997, 11996, 11995, ...3, 2, 1, 0, 1 (AD), 2(AD), 3 (AD) and so on
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Oops... thanks Serge... I knew I was missing something, boy I feel really silly right now...
Any comments on the Frog situation? I am sure I am missing something here...
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Oops... thanks Serge... I knew I was missing something, boy I feel really silly right now...
Any comments on the Frog situation? I am sure I am missing something here...
Canonically: no Idea
Idealogically: The effort it would take to remake EVERY frog sprite to be human, have it flow, and also how this would affect battle, is probably way too much.
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Most questions people have are normally cleared up by watching more or by waiting for more to be released...y'know, it might be best to hold on some of the bigger questions for the end of the Memorial...
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V is right, (probably).
theres (almost) always a reason for everything...
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Thanks again for your thoughts Serge, and you too V, I actually thought of the gameplay issue, I mean full battle sprites are a whole different deal than the sprite Human Glenn has, I was just curious about it, and wondered if they gave a reason earlier and I just miss it, or if something in the story of CT and CC had made that fact obvious, I am by no means a savant of the Chrono Universe like many in the Compendium, I just love the series so much, anyways, you are both right, best wait for the plot to advance, the videos had delivered the goods for me in many ways I wouldn't even dreamed off before, I am just so eager to see the next round, excelent, excelent work, and a big KUDOS to everyone on the CE dev team, and the ones involved in the making of the videos.