Chrono Compendium
Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => Polling => Topic started by: Enigma Outlaw on May 16, 2009, 06:04:51 am
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Out of boredom I figured I'd post that good old question that eventually seems to pop up on all anime/video game sites. If they were to do a CT movie who would you cast in what role?
This'll by far be far from a full list from me since all I'd do is populate it with LotR actors and far too many obvious choices or popular names but one guy that I could truely see as either Gasper or Melchior would be Ian McKellen. As for Dalton I'd say James Marsters (Spike from Buffy and Piccolo from the god awful Dragon Ball movie). Spike's nature in that series usually had those comic relief moments yet he could still be a menace which is exactly what would be needed to play Dalton.
In any case what do you guys think? I always find these kinds of topics intresting so I'm eager to see what you guys say ^_~
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Hmmm....this would take a while for me to complete, but here's the early list, going for "names" here:
Queen Zeal: Meryl Streep
Marle: Anna Farris (too old?)
Gaspar: Michael Caine
Melchior: Bill Nighy
Ummmm....thought I had more....more will come!
Jokes:
Dalton: Conan O'Brien
Frog: voiced by Morgan Freeman
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Nizbel - Arnold Schartzenegger
Ozzie - Danny DeVito
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Heh....already see some good ones and some crazy ones but this one.....
Dalton-Conan O'Brien?!
For the love of all that is good in this world not him! It's already bad enough that Leno is leaving the Tonight Show and being replaced by that humorless turd. Nothing good can come from Conan O'Brian!
(And while I understand it's a joke it still scares the shit out of me :P)
I do like DeVito as Ozzie however. That one seems to fit wonderfully in my mind when I try to put his voice to Ozzie's lines ^_~
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I always hate these threads...I wouldn't want a Hollywood-filled Americanized Chrono Trigger movie. I might want a nice television anime series, but that'd be it...and then I would also not care for the dub, so I wouldn't want to cast that either...
Oh, and Leno is a douchebag with terrible writers. Conan trumps all.
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Heh....already see some good ones and some crazy ones but this one.....
Dalton-Conan O'Brien?!
For the love of all that is good in this world not him! It's already bad enough that Leno is leaving the Tonight Show and being replaced by that humorless turd. Nothing good can come from Conan O'Brian!
(And while I understand it's a joke it still scares the shit out of me :P)
I do like DeVito as Ozzie however. That one seems to fit wonderfully in my mind when I try to put his voice to Ozzie's lines ^_~
Yeah, I think you mean it's bad enough Conan left his own show and was replaced by that humorless turd.
In any case, I wouldn't want to have a movie made, but if it had to be done,
the main actors would have to be older than the characters (14-16 years old, right?)
Crono - Ryan Gosling
Schala - Summer Glau
Frog - Ray Park (The guy who played "Darth Maul", and "Toad" from X men)
Belthasar - John Noble (The guy who plays "Walter Bishop" from Fringe)
Melchior - Alan Arkin (I like the idea of Michael Caine as Gaspar, and these guys would form quite a trio of gurus)
That's all I got for now.
Robo's voice - James Earl Jones hahaha
Edit: Chrono would have to have red dreadlocks, some bound into spikes with rubber bands. It's the only way I could visualize that crazy do. Too much gel = too much emo/harcore scene kid/not messy enough. Plus people with dreadlocks are often arrested without saying a word. Cause they're so high. Teeheehee.
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Conan>Leno
Hollywood - worth more than ya think! Of course if we went hollywood we'd probably end up with the jabroni from Twilight or some shit....
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I'm sort of thinking Aaron Eckhart for Dalton... Odd, I know, but I think he could pull it off. He would have to be more akin to his character from "Thank You For Smoking" and less Harvey Dent.
I think Bill Nighy would be a great Balthasar. He'd have that right level of strangeness, a little crazy but a little over-the-top genius.
Gaspar could be... Dang. I'm suddenly at a loss here.
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AARON ECKHART YES!!!!!!! How did you know I was thinking of him??? If we wanted Dalton to be more sinister and less goofy, I think Aaron or maybe Dominic West (cuz I'm biased) would be perfect!!
Great minds...
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Melchior- Hugh Laurie
nuff' said.
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Taban - Tom Arnold or John Goodman
Lucca - Zoey Dechanel (Hottest woman in Hollywood)
Marle - Scarlett Johansson (Think of the depth she'd bring to the role! Plus she's the second hottest chick in the business)
Ozzie - Jack Black
Magus - Eric Bana?
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Ozzie - Jack Black
Please no.
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Ozzie - Jack Black
Please no.
:lol: Sorry. Had to be said by somebody.
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But yeah, Ian McKellen would be great for Belthasar I think.
Danny DeVito would be great for Ozzie.
Michael Caine for Gaspar....Perfection. :lol:
Hmm, for Magus, I don't know Zachary Quinto? Probably not.
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I think Dane Cook should play Crono. We'll see how long Crono remains a mute.
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I think Dane Cook should play Crono. We'll see how long Crono remains a mute.
Hah.
Oh and Bekkler, John Noble as Belthasar is fucking perfect--I've thought that he'd be good for the role for quite a well, but sadly Scarlett Johansson is just too bosomy for the part of Marle. And Michael Caine would be fucking hilarious as Gaspar--that'd do quite well. Melchior needs someone a little heavier, in my opinion; someone booming and a little intimidating. John-Rhys Davies might work, but I don't really know.
I think the playable characters are the most challenging to cast--most of 'em need to be in their early twenties, otherwise it'd either look terrible (i.e. with actors too old for the part) or it'd be a fucking teen movie (with actors the "right" age for the part). Aaron or Shawn Ashmore could have made a decent Crono, if they were a little younger.
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This would be live action right? Not animated?
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You do know we're not actually casting a movie, right Delta Dragon...?
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I think I'd have to boycott a movie. The addition of vocals to the experience alone would be enough to put a stain on things for me, if they didn't match the characters that I've had in my head all these years.
I found the added cutscenes in the PSX and DS versions strange in themselves. Not bad, but they deviated a bit from my impressions from the game with their added visual detail. Wasn't sure what to make of them.
Can't imagine an actor playing Crono, really. Think it'd be a worse experiment than Russel Crowe's upcoming version of Robin Hood!
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You do know we're not actually casting a movie, right Delta Dragon...?
What do you think? :picardno I'm being entirely hypothetical.
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Righto, it's hypothetical: if you see it "easier" to cast an animated movie, then let's hear those suggestions.
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Righto, it's hypothetical: if you see it "easier" to cast an animated movie, then let's hear those suggestions.
especially since in that case, casting just means voices...
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Oi! Oh gosh... Now everyone's going to start naming Anime voice actors like Steve Blum (or whatever his name is)...
As a non-anime type of guy (well, for the most part), I forbid the use of anime voice actors!
(and I thus forbid my forbidden comment!)
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ZOMG!! Why didn't I reply to this before!?
Obviously, the immortal (literally, sort of) Adrian Paul should play Magus:
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8523/apmagus.png) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HixGBwkAjT8)
Give Adrian Paul a scythe, color his hair blue, and give him whatever personality you ascribe to Magus...and subtract the Scottish Highlander accent. There's never been any doubt in my mind, though it helps to imagine Magus with tied-back hair.
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C'mon Faust! Are you serious right now? There can only be one!
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If you need a poll just put up "Christian Bale as Magus y/n"
Gregg Berger could be good as a voice if it's animated.
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These just came to me!
Dalton = Mark Hamill.
Melchior = Drew Carey (Have you guys seen him lately?) (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI5MDc0NjU3Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzkwNzQxMQ@@._V1._SX100_SY137_.jpg)
Doan = Alan Arkin
Marle = Linda Cardellini (Check her out as a blonde (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc4MTM4OTM1NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDM3MDc0._V1._SX267_SY400_.jpg))
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Mark Hamill, holy shit, he'd be hilarious. Especially if he decided to act like an over-the-top, buffoon of a villain. Though hot, Linda Cardellini is twice as old as Marle, but whatever. Alan Arkin would be an exceptional Doan.
Drew Carey as Melchior...interesting, can he act well?
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Drew Carey as Melchior...interesting, can he act well?
He did okay as Geppetto, but generally, no. :(
But he's old enough now, it's Bob Barker Syndrome. As soon as you host Price is Right, your hair will change from dark to white. (<-rhyme) Slap a moustache on that dude and BAM! You got a pacifist swordsmith!
Man, I recently realized I don't know of any child actors anymore. I thought the kid who played Leech in Xmen 3 would make a great Janus, but he's too old now. Linda Cardellini is gorgeous, and I remember her from her role of Freaks and Geeks. At that age (like 10 years ago?) would have been perfect as Marle. Damn you, TIME!!!!
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I think the subject is a little misleading... "Who would you cast in a Chrono movie?" Does that mean who would YOU play in a Chrono movie? or what everyone has been doing?
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Who. Would. You. Cast. 8)
Not Who would you be if you were cast. That's just begging for a which character do you like better poll.
It's really not misleading...
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A lot of people seem to think that in this case they're the directors and they need to get people to play the characters, so they're casting them. I'm not too familiar with the movie world, but I think Johnny Depp as Magus would be supremely awesome.
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Almost all females think that Johnny Depp would be awesome as any male character.
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Some think he could pull off being a female character.
But yeah, I could see Depp as Magus. That's all I can really think of.
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I think Johnny Depp as Magus would be supremely awesome.
:lol:
Almost all females think that Johnny Depp would be awesome as any male character.
:lol: :lol:
Double Lulz!
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Akira Toriyama, to draw and animate it. If I were in charge of the situation, the last thing I would consider is stabbing the entire fanbase through the heart by making a crappy live action movie. Some things were never meant to be live action. Like DB Evolution. They tried, and failed. I heard Akira Toriyama literally cried after he saw the movie. And not out of happiness.
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the last thing I would consider is stabbing the entire fanbase through the heart
In my personal opinion, Square Enix did this by shutting down Crimson Echoes, a beautiful piece of fan fiction / fan game.
Fuck you, alienat0r.
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Akira Toriyama, to draw and animate it. If I were in charge of the situation, the last thing I would consider is stabbing the entire fanbase through the heart by making a crappy live action movie. Some things were never meant to be live action. Like DB Evolution. They tried, and failed. I heard Akira Toriyama literally cried after he saw the movie. And not out of happiness.
I hear he said it was an...interesting alternate universe..(honestly who knows, I mean the internet is filled with rumors...I doubt he cried about it though.*)..which in movie land means: this is a piece of trash, please don't mention my name when you speak of it.
* I imagine it he'd be like one of those old comercals with the Native American and someone throws a bottle on the ground and a single tear streams down his face....yeah just like that ^^
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You can hear many crazy things on the Internet, like that infamous rumor saying Toriyama died of a heart attack in the late 1990s...
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I liked Depp as Jack Sparrow and that was about it so I'll do you one better.....
DEPP AS FLEA!!!! :P
And in regards to an anime movie without a doubt it would HAVE to be done by Bird Studios. That is flat out not open for debate since it IS Toriyama's company after all!
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Depp is awesome as Hunter S. Thompson in Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas (and will be again in Rum Diaries)!
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Depp - overrated. There I said it.
Fear n Loathing - More overrated. There I said it.
Bill Murray>>>>Johnny Depp, who is Still talented, but overrated. There I said it.
Where The Buffalo Roam > Fear n Loathing. There I said it.
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Steve Zissou > Young Bill Murray > Johnny Depp > Most Old Bill Murray
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Bill Murray is god and don't any of you forget it.
There is no one, and I mean no one, in this world better than he. I swear by it.
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Depp fucking WAS Thompson in Fear & Loathing. No one played the role better. Fear & Loathing follows the book almost word for word. If you think the movie's overrated, you think the book is overrated. If you think the book is overrated, you think Hunter S. Thompson is overrated. If you think Hunter S. Thompson is overrated, your opinion is null & void.
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An opinion? Null and void? Didn't know that was possible.
And yea, I stand by the comments.
I used an Ultimate Nullifier. It means that whenever you share an opinion on something in the future, I will instead see a hole, reminding me of this ludicrousness. :lol:
(http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/869006228931/inlineimg/Y/200px-UltimateNullifier.jpg)
*PEW PEW*
~V_Translanka
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This topic is the perfect demonstration of how you people can give every reason not to be a casting director.
1) Don't take legendary actors and actresses for granted.
2) Not every casting decision is correct.
3) You have to look for:
a. Individual screen presence
b. Actor/Actress chemistry
c. Original approach to the dialogue
...all of these must be approached with impartiality, not because it tickles your fancy.
Regardless, I can easily picture Chrono Trigger as a live-action trilogy (yes, trilogy; you can't expect to fit it all into one movie, now can you?). Anime, in this part of the world, sounds a little passe and serendipitous. What says you?
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This topic is the perfect demonstration of how you people can give every reason not to be a casting director.
1) Don't take legendary actors and actresses for granted.
2) Not every casting decision is correct.
3) You have to look for:
a. Individual screen presence
b. Actor/Actress chemistry
c. Original approach to the dialogue
...all of these must be approached with impartiality, not because it tickles your fancy.
Regardless, I can easily picture Chrono Trigger as a live-action trilogy (yes, trilogy; you can't expect to fit it all into one movie, now can you?). Anime, in this part of the world, sounds a little passe and serendipitous. What says you?
I didn't see any suggested names for casting in there. So I have a rebuttal.
1. It's not really gonna be made into a movie
2. It's still not really gonna be made into a movie
3. Don't take it seriously. Seriously, it's not gonna be made into a movie.
a. this is supposed to be fun
b. it's who would you cast, not who would you want to see in a real movie
c. we can't even get a new sequel and speed racer and dragon ball both bombed, this is really NEVER going to be made into a movie.
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:picardno
If that's the best rebuttal you have, I hate to see your argument.
This could have been avoided if the title included the word "speculative" or "hypothetical".
Besides, it's neither of our calls whether this will be made into a live-action movie or not (although I am currently working on a screenplay version of the story).
Regardless, new anime movies in this part of the world seem passe and serendipitous.
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To be fair, why would the title need the words speculative or hypothetical? Did anyone enter this topic really thinking they'd be making the casting choices? It's clearly a hypothetical situation, so you don't need to mock those of us who have replied, cause we really don't think we're making casting choices for a real film. This topic, like Bekkler's rebuttal, are just little bits of fun.
But I do agree that Chrono Trigger lends itself to work as a live-action trilogy, or perhaps even a mini-series.
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I thought it was pretty funny.
Anyway, since nobody has posted a suggestion for casting, why don't we talk about the trilogy idea?
Where would you cut it up?
Personally, I'd probably cut it a little after the Dragon Tank, like right when they get to the future. Frog's full backstory would be played out.
Second movie starts with no background BS, and goes until Crono dies. Robo and Ayla would join only in the second one, to leave room for development with the core crew in the first movie.
Third movie is Crono's resurrection, and goes until Lavos is killed. Probably no sidequests.
I'd probably want it to be the "epoch crashing into Lavos" way of killing him, just because he's seen killing Crono, so in a movie they'd probably think that would happen again if they didn't pulverize him.
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I think cutting it right after you fight Magus for the first time would be awesome. Great suspense, climactic scene, and perfect opener for the next movie/thing.
As for actors, we HAVE to squeeze Johnny Depp in there somehow. Maybe as Crono or Frog? Maybe even Toma.
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I like your idea, Mr. Bekkler. By the way, sorry about getting off to a rough start. I'm just the kind of person who searches for clarity even in the most obvious situations. It won't happen again.
Anyway, my first script would actually continue into 2300 A.D., back to 1000 A.D., and follow the story up until the quest for the restoration of the Masamune begins. The second script would cover the Zeal chapter up until Crono's death (and their search for the Time Egg). The last would be just like you put it.
As an amateur screenwriter, I find it very difficult to cut out what fans might deem to be "important" to the story, be it events or supporting characters. Ultimately, when it comes to adaptations, it's always the nagging question:
What is absolutely necessary to a) move the story forward, or b) reveal something new about your characters?
Johnny Deep was good as Jack Sparrow and Edward Scissor Hands. I simply can't see him as a Jack-of-all-Trades actor.
I could picture Magus being played by Jeremy Irons. When I saw him in "The Time Machine", I could almost hear my muse whisper into my ear, "That could be Magus."
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Toma and Jack Sparrow are not all that different.
They both mumble, they both bumble, they both drink heavily, and they both think they are the shit. They're both lacking intelligence, and are a little funny.
In short, Johnny Depp as Toma, who honestly believes he's having the "Greatest Adventure That You And Everyone Else Will Never See!" which he enthusiastically reminds the party of three times in each film.
[edtior's noet to self: You and Everyone Else WILL see his adventure, in the form of a 3-D Motion seat ride at Universal Studios.]
[edtior's seccund note: Have the secretary spell check before posting. :D
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Jeremy Irons could be a magnificent Magus, but at 60 years old, he could be too old to play Magus. His voice, however, would be magnificent for the fiendlord.
As for where I'd cut up the game for a trilogy, that's really tough. The firs fight against Magus is definitely one of the best ways to conclude that portion of the game: Marle has been saved, Frog's story has been explored, it's a very climactic part of the game, and sets you up for what will inevitably become the focus of the next two "films". But perhaps that'd be a bit much--everything from after 2300ad right before Zeal could also work as its own movie, leaving all of Zeal and its crazy massive climax for the final film.
This is kinda why I suggested a mini-series earlier; you could cut it up after every mini adventure has concluded. One episode for when you save Marle and the ensuing trial, one for when you find and fix Robo, one for when you defeat Magus for the first time, one for Ayla's cool stuff, one for Zeal, one for the finale, etc.
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Imagine the stories of Trigger, Radical Dreamers, and Chrono Cross streamlined and put in a modern setting, but it's still about a group of people from different walks of life fighting an otherworldly horror and Kid/Schala's mental imbalance.
Imagine it as a Satoshi Kon anime.
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Do you mean that we should think of it as animated and select voice actors for it? Or is there a certain theme to Satoshi Kon's anime that you want reproduced? Or am I missing something?
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Mostly I just thought it was an interesting idea, but the more I think of it, alternate universes for an established franchise is more of a Gainax thing.
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Imagine it as a Satoshi Kon anime.
I have seen Satoshi's work (especially Tokyo Godfathers). Regardless, anime, like any other film medium, still serves to fill its niche.
That's why I thought it would adventurous to try CT in a different medium (in this case, a live-action movie trilogy). It just goes back to what I said before: anime in this part of the world nowadays seems passe and serendipitous.
Okay, mav. Maybe Jeremy Irons is a little old for the part, but did you read about Spielberg rethinking Harrison Ford when he did his fourth and final "Indie" movie? Of course not. Elderly people can sometimes be surprisingly nimble and charismatic. Case in point? Christopher Lloyd.
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Okay, mav. Maybe Jeremy Irons is a little old for the part, but did you read about Spielberg rethinking Harrison Ford when he did his fourth and final "Indie" movie? Of course not. Elderly people can sometimes be surprisingly nimble and charismatic. Case in point? Christopher Lloyd.
Hah, good points. It really isn't an issue in nimbleness or vitality, and it certainly isn't one in charisma--it's just that aspect of completely re-imagining a character just for a film. Magus is around 30 or 40 in CT, right? Would it look right for Irons to play him? Eh, I guess age doesn't really matter though. People have bitched about "inappropriate" actors playing iconic characters for quite a while. I remember people fussing heavily when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker, and now they're his greatest fans and sympathizers.
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Crono- Kyle Gallner
Marle- Emma Watson
Lucca- Dakota Fanning
Magus- Johnny Depp
Schala- Amy Adams
Queen Zeal- Uma Thurman
Glenn (Frog)- CGI
Glenn (Human)- Topher Grace (would be perfect to play this timid role)
Gina- Annette O'Toole
Dalton- Michael Rosenbaum
Toma- Colin Farrell
Melchoir- Philip Seymore Hoffman
Gaspar- Christopher Lee
Belthazar- Alan Rickman
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Crono- Kyle Gallner
Marle- Emma Watson
Lucca- Dakota Fanning
Magus- Johnny Depp
Schala- Amy Adams
Queen Zeal- Uma Thurman
Glenn (Frog)- CGI
Glenn (Human)- Topher Grace (would be perfect to play this timid role)
Gina- Annette O'Toole
Dalton- Michael Rosenbaum
Toma- Colin Farrell
Melchoir- Philip Seymore Hoffman
Gaspar- Christopher Lee
Belthazar- Alan Rickman
You have my approval! Two thumbs up!
But, just to throw in my opinion, it might be better to switch Emma Watson for Lucca, since she's known for playing an intellectual type(plus the Britishness makes her sound naturally smarter) and Dakota Fanning for Marle, simply because she looks more like her, I guess.
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Crono- Kyle Gallner
Marle- Emma Watson
Lucca- Dakota Fanning
Magus- Johnny Depp
Schala- Amy Adams
Queen Zeal- Uma Thurman
Glenn (Frog)- CGI
Glenn (Human)- Topher Grace (would be perfect to play this timid role)
Gina- Annette O'Toole
Dalton- Michael Rosenbaum
Toma- Colin Farrell
Melchoir- Philip Seymore Hoffman
Gaspar- Christopher Lee
Belthazar- Alan Rickman
You have my approval! Two thumbs up!
But, just to throw in my opinion, it might be better to switch Emma Watson for Lucca, since she's known for playing an intellectual type(plus the Britishness makes her sound naturally smarter) and Dakota Fanning for Marle, simply because she looks more like her, I guess.
Funny. I was thinking almost that same thing. I can definitely imagine Christopher Lee as Gaspar, but for some reason I have a hard time imagining Alan Rickman as Belthazar.
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I picked Alan Rickman because he's very versatile... and I think he would be amazing at playing a man on the verge of losing his mind.
Truthordeal, that was my original idea for Marle and Lucca... I don't know why I had them switched around.
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Heh, I picture Dakota Fanning as more of the Schala type--with those big 'ol eyes and supposed wisdom. Interesting picks, Stranger.
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Crono- Kyle Gallner
Marle- Emma Watson
Lucca- Dakota Fanning
Magus- Johnny Depp
Schala- Amy Adams
Queen Zeal- Uma Thurman
Glenn (Frog)- CGI
Glenn (Human)- Topher Grace (would be perfect to play this timid role)
Gina- Annette O'Toole
Dalton- Michael Rosenbaum
Toma- Colin Farrell
Melchoir- Philip Seymore Hoffman
Gaspar- Christopher Lee
Belthazar- Alan Rickman
Johnny Depp as Magus? I don't know... He does have the looks, but he's way too tan. I think Christopher Lambert (yes (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Raiden311.png)) would fit much better, especially if he kept that thunder god voice. He turns up about halfway through here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBcRORqeBcI). 5:22 to 5:43 definitely sounds like bored/playful Magus, if you're looking for a bit of comedy.
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Christopher Lambert's more than fit for the part, but don't count Johnny out. He's a fairly versatile actor. This is the man that was both Jack Sparrow and Willy Wonka after all.
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But of course, which is why I would be very keen to cast one of my favourite actors as my favourite character. I suppose it also depends on how exactly the director wants to portray Magus. He could be anywhere from 20 to 40 years old, it's never really stated. His build is hard to determine as well (I doubt everyone in the game would be as muscular as Toriyama portrayed). If you want to go with a younger Magus (20-30), then Johnny Depp would be better. For 40+, Christopher Lambert.
Though the idea of a Jack Sparrow-esque, blundering and comedic Magus is very appealing, it doesn't fit the character (or at least what's shown in-game).
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But of course, which is why I would be very keen to cast one of my favourite actors as my favourite character. I suppose it also depends on how exactly the director wants to portray Magus. He could be anywhere from 20 to 40 years old, it's never really stated. His build is hard to determine as well (I doubt everyone in the game would be as muscular as Toriyama portrayed). If you want to go with a younger Magus (20-30), then Johnny Depp would be better. For 40+, Christopher Lambert.
Though the idea of a Jack Sparrow-esque, blundering and comedic Magus is very appealing, it doesn't fit the character (or at least what's shown in-game).
Johnny Depp is 40+ though... and makeup can make him pale. What about the dude who played Lucius Malfoy in Harry Potter. Now THAT guys is Magus!
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That guy was also the villain in "The Patriot," or..."Braveheart In America"
I'm sick of Johnny Depp. Simply one of those overexposure things, really. Dude's got some serious talent, but you'd have to chain me down in order to get me to watch the new Willy Wonka movie. Also, Dakota Fanning has gotten old! Not old, but she's grown up! Isn't she still supposed to be in Charlotte's Web or something? She's in that ridiculous looking "Push" movie now...
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Steven Segall as Magus.
Winona Ryder (1980's) as Schala (Hey what it's about Time Travel. she looks like Schala in Beetlejuice
and like Kid in Edward Scissorhands)
Danny Devito as Ozzy
Keanu Reeves as Glenn
Jim Henson's creature shop for Frog's costume. Haven't heard of anyone that size who fits the fighter frame, but I'm sure they're out there. Notice how it isn't CGI. CGI just... ugh. Also, Jim Henson/Frog connection completely unintentional.
Crono... I don't know. PEE WEE HERMAN???????????????????
Drew Barrymore would work so nicely for Marle. She doesn't even have to be a good fighter, just shoot a crossbow and giggle.
TINA FEY IS TOO OLD TO BE WEARING A NERD HELMET AND GIANT GLASSES.
OH FINNHUCK NO TEENAGERS
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I'm probably going to be shot for suggesting this, but here goes.
Vin Diesel as Magus.
Why? Well, have you seen The Chronicles of Riddick? At the beginning of the movie, he wears a hooded cloak and speaks very solemnly, but very to the point. When you look at the official Toriyama art, Magus is pretty well defined, and Diesel is as well. The body type seems to fit, both in mass and in height. And there's the voice... Diesel's voice is always what I thought Magus would be. Very low, kind of hoarse, threatening in a way. True, he doesn't always have that much emotion, but that's perfect for Magus. The only time he really shows emotion is when he is angry. Same with Diesel.
He also moves like a wraith in the movie, and I think those sorts of movements would compliment Magus' mastery of scythe combat.
Think about it a bit. It's not as bad as some suggestions. Like Adrian Paul or Christopher Lambert? Come on now. :P
- Ozzie could be Timothy Spall (Peter Pettigrew for you HP fans) or Ian McNeice (Baron Harkonnen from Dune, the 2000 Sci-Fi version). Could really go one or the other. One could be Ozzie, the other could be Azala.
- Queen Zeal... for a laugh, you could use Tina Turner. Go back to Mad Max 2: Beyond Thunderdome. The mullet, the shoulder pads... come on. It's Queen Zeal. XD But in all seriousness? Alice Krige might work. She's always a good villain actress.
- Lucca would be played by America Ferrara. She does the nerd look so well in Ugly Betty... I hate to typecast her, but she'd be perfect for Lucca. If not her, I might pick Piper Perabo.
- I'd like to see Daniel Craig as the voice of Frog.
- If he were alive, I'd say George Carlin for Melchior, but alas that is no longer an option.
- Tilda Swinton is good at playing androgynous parts (see Constatine for reference), but I don't think she's quite "beautiful" enough for the part of Flea. Strange as it may seem, I could possibly see Ellen Page as Flea.
- Schala... let's go with Miranda Otto as a safe bet.
That's all I can think of for the moment.
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Vin Diesel would have been one of my top picks for Magus becaue of his voice, which IS Magus in this song. (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00376/) I haven't seen Riddick yet, but I've been trying to get my hands on that movie.
Only problem with Vin Diesel (aside from baldness)? His face. He has a baby face. It's too round and too soft to fit Magus. Besides, does this look like a Fiendlord to you? (http://www.funmunch.com/celebrities/actors/vin_diesel/enlarge/vin_diesel_1.jpg)
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Vin Diesel would have been one of my top picks for Magus becaue of his voice, which IS Magus in this song. (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00376/) I haven't seen Riddick yet, but I've been trying to get my hands on that movie.
Only problem with Vin Diesel (aside from baldness)? His face. He has a baby face. It's too round and too soft to fit Magus. Besides, does (http://www.funmunch.com/celebrities/actors/vin_diesel/enlarge/vin_diesel_1.jpg) this look like a Fiendlord to you?
Vin's face is workable. Pop a set of fake fangs on his teeth and he can do the scowl of Magus pretty well, I'd say. As for being bald, all he needs is a wig. That's easy enough.
Fixed your image, by the way. Use [IMG] instead of [URL].
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Besides, does this look like a Fiendlord to you? (http://www.funmunch.com/celebrities/actors/vin_diesel/enlarge/vin_diesel_1.jpg)
Only in my sexiest fantasies... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/maggiekarp/poshul/embarassingifanyoneelseseesthis.jpg)
Erm, unknowns for a movie, the cast of DBZ for an anime. But then Magus would have Vegeta voice... ugh...
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If that's what we're judging by, he still doesn't have the face for it. He'd need a whole ton of makeup to get past how round his features are. Of course, makeup would already be needed for the ears (please be either A or I) (http://www.aradanicostumes.com/elfears.php) and fangs and the white skin. Maybe they could make some sort of mask to give him more of an edge.
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If that's what we're judging by, he still doesn't have the face for it. He'd need a whole ton of makeup to get past how round his features are. Of course, makeup would already be needed for the ears (please be either A or I) (http://www.aradanicostumes.com/elfears.php) and fangs and the white skin. Maybe they could make some sort of mask to give him more of an edge.
That's true of anyone for that part, though. No one is Magus pale. The only thing is that maybe his chin isn't quite angular enough, but that's such a small thing in my mind. The look doesn't have to be perfect. I'm more concerned with the acting.
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Jason Frank can play Magus in Frog's flashback. Remember when that dude had long hair? loldragonzord
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Crono- Kyle Gallner
Marle- Emma Watson
Lucca- Dakota Fanning
Magus- Johnny Depp
Schala- Amy Adams
Queen Zeal- Uma Thurman
Glenn (Frog)- CGI
Glenn (Human)- Topher Grace (would be perfect to play this timid role)
Gina- Annette O'Toole
Dalton- Michael Rosenbaum
Toma- Colin Farrell
Melchoir- Philip Seymore Hoffman
Gaspar- Christopher Lee
Belthazar- Alan Rickman
Everyone but Crono is right. You gave Gina an actor? What about Ozzie Flea and Slash? Ozzie Ozboren should be a character. Maybe Doan. And now Michael Jackson can't play Jonny.
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Okay, so after actually watching a Vin Diesel movie other than Pacifier, I'd have to say he would be good for the Magus job. And if they turn it into a half comedy, they can use the same boob jokes that Pacifier did.
Still.. the baldness does count against him. They might have better wigs in the movie industry, but it's just not the same :c
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Sean Connery as Lavos
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No, Sean Connery as Belthasar!
O, inspired!
And Michael Palin as John Belushi as Ludwig von Beethoven as Ray Charles (http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/comedy/watch/v15996395R8D44YC2) as Gaspar.
Burt Reynolds as Lavos.
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Burt Reynolds as Lavos.
Lavos doesn't do two takes. Lavos works the way Lavos wants.
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Lavos = Prima Donna?
I saw Lavos more as a method actor.
Director: "Okay, here's your motivation. You just came hurtling from the farthest reaches of space and crashlanded on a planet and you get to sit there doing nothing for the next 65 million+ years except gathering energy. You're bored out of your shell. You suddenly get a rude wake-up call from the Mammon Machine, but you went and hit the Snooze button on Zeal. Thousands of years later, you get to come out and show the world your wrath...
Lots of energy now! Action!!"
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Chrono- Shea Lebuff
Marle- Paula Abdul (cause they're both bimbos)
Lucca- Jennifer Love Hewitt
Frog- Cary Elways
Ayla- Keira Knightley
Robo- a computer
Magus- Laurence Fishburn?(if we're doing voice actors.)or Tom Cruise
Gaspar- Ian McKellen
That's who I would choose anyway. :shock:
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Chrono- Shea Lebuff
Marle- Paula Abdul (cause they're both bimbos)
Lucca- Jennifer Love Hewitt
Frog- Cary Elways
Ayla- Keira Knightley
Robo- a computer
Magus- Laurence Fishburn?(if we're doing voice actors.)or Tom Cruise
Gaspar- Ian McKellen
That's who I would choose anyway. :shock:
Cary Elwes. *Bangs head on desk* How did I not think of that. Not sure about Keira Knightley though. I just have a hard time seeing her in that role. And as a voice actor...Yeah I guess I can see Laurence Fishburn.
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Chrono - Shea Lebuff?? :shock:
All I can ask is... why?
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Chrono - Shea Lebuff?? :shock:
All I can ask is... why?
Well...he's the only young male actor I can think of at the moment. (Other than Mathew Goode) :P
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Gerard Butler as Cyrus
I STILL think Mark Hammill for Dalton would be wonderful.
Wesley Snipes as Slash.
Seth Rogen as Toma. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'm probably going to be shot for suggesting this, but here goes.
Vin Diesel as Magus.
'Aims''Rethinks' Maaaaaybe...No.
Keanu Reeves as Glenn
Crono... I don't know. PEE WEE HERMAN???????????????????
Peewee Herman as Anyone
No.
Marle- Dakota Fanning
Lucca- Emma Watson
Yes.
What about Ozzie, Flea, and Slash? Ozzie Osbourne should be a character.
Heh, I would personally love it if the real Ozzie Osbourne, Slash, and Flea had cameos in Magus' Keep. Maybe as lackeys of their ingame counterparts, heh.
Chrono- Shea Lebuff
Marle- Paula Abdul (cause they're both bimbos)
Lucca- Jennifer Love Hewitt
Frog- Cary Elways
Ayla- Keira Knightley
Robo- a computer
Magus- Laurence Fishburn?(if we're doing voice actors.)or Tom Cruise
Gaspar- Ian McKellen
Shia, Paula, Cary, Lawrence, and Tom? No. Jennifer and Keira? Maybe, but I don't how well Ms. Knightly could play Ayla. Ian McKellen? I'm going to assume this is the guy who played Magneto in the two Xmen movies (The third does not exist), so maybe.
I fully support Depp as Flea and Adrian Paul as Magus
If we're talking voice actors however...
Bill Murray as Toma (Dunno, just fits my idea of Toma's voice)
Christopher Lloyd or Alan Rickmon as Belthasar
Sean Connery as Melchior
Microsoft Sam as Robo's default voice. Or Stephen Hawking because he needs to be in a movie.
Mark Hamill as Bekkler (Imagine halfway between TAS Joker and The Gargoyle from The Incredible Hulk)
Will Wheaton as Fritz. (Yet another case of playing Chrono Trigger while watching The Big Bang Theory affecting my judgement)
Tim Allen as Taban for giggles (No, not really, although the idea of Taban saying "More Power!" while inexplicably hammering Lucca's machine brings a grin to my face.)
All I've got for now.
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Akira Toriyama, to draw and animate it. If I were in charge of the situation, the last thing I would consider is stabbing the entire fanbase through the heart by making a crappy live action movie. Some things were never meant to be live action. Like DB Evolution. They tried, and failed. I heard Akira Toriyama literally cried after he saw the movie. And not out of happiness.
No wait, how about Miyazaki to animate it?
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I think Dane Cook should play Crono. We'll see how long Crono remains a mute.
Hah.
John Noble as Belthasar is fucking perfect
I agree :D
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Wow! I can't believe I missed this thread! I definitely have some ideas for the production and casting of a CT movie. (This post is partially copied from a PM I sent awhile back on this very subject, with a few changes.)
One, it must be a combination of live-action and CG. An all anime project wouldn't be taken very seriously, and the typical anime voice talent would be used if they went that route. Instant fail. Don't even consider anime. Please...
Two, I envision a four-part film series - at least if you want to do it right and try and resolve Chrono Cross' ambiguous ending. It could be done in three, but only by sacrificing a lot of potential.
And now to the casting. I've scanned this entire thread, and I'm astonished at what names haven't been mentioned. Obviously, Crono, Marle, and Lucca are the most important members of the cast, as they would have prominent roles in all four films (though Crono would be dead for most of episode III). And those three should be played by:
Crono Lantree: Zac Efron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zac_Efron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zac_Efron)
I have always pictured Crono (that last name is one of my own making) as something of a troublemaker, and something about Zac's mischivious grin just screams Crono. Crono is a character with attitude. That quality must outweigh all other considerations - aside from the essential chemistry he must have with Marle and Lucca. Zac is also very popular right now, so casting him in the lead would garner instant notice. Note in the personal life section of his wiki that he's a fan of manga and Dragonball Z, so the odds of him accepting this role are quite high. It would also give him a chance to demonstrate his talent in a unique way. Crono is a blank slate, so Zac can portray him pretty much however he wants - script allowing.
Princess Nadia "Marle" Guardia: Hayden Panettiere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayden_Panettiere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayden_Panettiere)
How could anyone have missed a choice this obvious? It falls into the category of "No, DUH!" She's practically a Marle lookalike. It's the part Hayden was born to play. She has some experience under her belt now, so I think Hayden has enough depth to bring Marle to life. Hayden has also attended sci-fi conventions, so she probably has at least a passing knowledge of Chrono Trigger. She wouldn't turn down a chance to be in a four-installment film franchise post-Heroes. That's an impressive thing to have on your resume'.
Lucca Ashtear: Nicki Clyne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicki_Clyne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicki_Clyne)
Big names do not always translate into success. Sometimes you have to take a chance on someone who is less well known who just happens to fit into her role perfectly. The perfect Lucca, as of this writing, is clearly Nicki Clyne. In any live-action adaptation of CT, Lucca is the most difficult character to get right. Just finding a person that looks the part is hard enough. Finding an actress that can evolve as her characer does is even harder. And Lucca evolves quite a bit - starting as a witty sidekick and growing into someone who could possibly be considered the series protagonist after Crono exits the stage. If the series intends to address Chrono Cross and its aftermath in some fashion, then Lucca's importance cannot be understated. Nicki's role on Battlestar Galactica was initially minor, but she became a recurring character throughout the show's four-season run. That doesn't happen unless you have some talent. At 26, Clyne would be the oldest of the three leads (Zac is 22 and Hayden is 20), so a production would have to start very soon for her casting to be practical. But there is zero chance she would turn down the role. It would be the biggest thing she's ever done. For those of you with doubts, here's a recent video of her at a sci-fi convention: http://www.vidgle.com/podcast/2009/04/18/con-goer-i-con-28-2009-press-conference-nicki-clyne-and-sala-baker/ (http://www.vidgle.com/podcast/2009/04/18/con-goer-i-con-28-2009-press-conference-nicki-clyne-and-sala-baker/) Put some glasses on her, and the likeness would be almost scary. Purple hair could be done in post-production - important because I envision that as a story element.
With strong leads, you have some options for the supporting cast. Due to the nature of the supporting characters, three out of the four will probably be CG creations - so great voices are a must. Here are my top choices:
Frog/Glenn: Patrick Stewart or Liam Neeson (V.O.)
Unlike the three leads, Glenn, by necessity, will be a CG creation, so there is some flexibility to casting him. But if Glenn speaks in archaic English - as he should, frankly - than he should be voiced by a Shakespearian actor that knows how. Glenn's age is indeterminate in his amphibian guise, but he is an experienced warrior and veteran soldier who speaks with authority. His voice needs to reflect that as well as the profound pain he carries. Both Stewart and Neeson have the depth to pull that off. It's simply a question of preference. Picard or Qui-Gon?
Robo/Prometheus: Hugo Weaving (V.O.)
Let's forget that he voices Megatron in Transformers. He's far more memorable as Agent Smith, Elrond, and V. Robo is a challenging voice role because his voice should evolve subtly from one film to the next. In Episode I, when he is first found, he should speak with very little inflection - being a robot with no real memory of what he was. As the series continues, his inflections should grow as he spends more time around humans. By Episode IV, his voice should be almost indistinguishable from a human's. Weaving is qualified, and I can't really picture anyone else voicing Robo. Since he already voices a robot in Transformers, Weaving might be reluctant to voice another - though Robo is a much deeper role than Megatron. It's unknown if there will be any more Transformers films, but a third seems likely, so there may be commitment issues for Weaving.
Ayla: Uma Thurman (probably V.O.)
For those of you that have seen Avatar, you know that some pretty amazing things can be done with computer animation now. I just can't see Ayla being handled in any other way. Her martial skills are such that it would look less than convincing if performed by a live actress - even Uma, who has no small amount of experience kicking ass on-screen. Uma is the name that most comes to mind when I think of Ayla, though there is some flexibility in casting her. I envision Ayla as being somewhat older than the leads, so an older actress would suit the part best.
Magus/Janus Zeal: Zachary Quinto
Let's face it, Magus will be hard for anyone to pull off. He is a terrible adversary, yet not exactly evil. Magus is a tragic character that requires a great deal of subtlety from the actor portraying him to show that he hasn't fallen completely to the dark side. Everything he has done has been in the hopes of reuniting with his sister and taking revenge on the being that destroyed his life. We all know Zachary Quinto can play a dark part. Sylar is deliciously evil. We also know he can be subtle. Spock has to be. There's no question in my mind that he's the perfect Magus. The only real question is if he'll be available. With commitments to Heroes and Star Trek, signing him to a multi-film deal presents a huge challenge.
And some of the rest of the cast:
Melchior: Ian Holm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Holm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Holm)
Belthazar: Ian McKellan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_McKellen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_McKellen)
Gaspar: Christopher Lee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Lee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Lee)
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. ;)
Empress Zeal: Sandra Bullock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Bullock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Bullock)
Princess Schala Zeal: Ellen Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Page)
General Dalton: Jim Carrey or Johnny Depp
Being one of the main villains of the series, this supporting role might get the attention of either Carrey or Depp. Their comic backgrounds would be a great asset to the character.
Taban Ashtear: Mark Harmon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Harmon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Harmon)
Originally thought of Christopher Lloyd, then realized he was too old for the part. Intrestingly, Harmon has a background in carpentry, making him a good choice to play the elder Ashtear.
Lara Ashtear: Kate Mulgrew
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Mulgrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Mulgrew)
This list is far from complete, but I think I've addressed the most important characters. Now we can all weep from the knowledge that this movie will probably never become reality, even if the perfect cast exists at this moment. :cry: (sorry for the colossal post guys)
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Almost that whole list seemed good to me. Except I'm not quite sure about Zac Efron. I mean he could probably do it, but I just have a hard time seeing him play Crono and do it well.
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I like it. I thought of Hayden at some point as Marle, but looking back, it seems I never posted it. Oh wellzies, good idea either way!
And I could care less for Effron, but you defend your choice well.
I STILL think Mark Hammill would make a great Dalton and Summer Glau would make a sweet Schala.
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@Lennis: Sorry about not responding to your PM. Christmas and all was the main reason why. As such, I'll be to examine your casting decisions in this context. I won't do it all at once, but break it down bit by bit so each critique is weighed properly from as many voices wishing to... well, voice their opinion as well.
With that, let the ordeal begin.
Zac Efron? No dice. Here's why:
You ever hear of typecasting? It’s where you cast (a performer) repeatedly in a kind of role closely patterned after that of the actor's previous successes. This can have a potentially negative effect on actors and actresses. Such examples include Bruce Willis, Mark Hamill, Robert Englund, Jaleel White, and now Zac Effron.
All people are gonna say when they see him is, “Hey, look! It’s Troy Bolton (or That Guy from High School Musical)!” Him being a fan of manga won’t change him from being widely associated with a trademark Disney character. It’s gotta be someone else, especially someone a bit built and can display innocent passion for his chosen art (swordsmanship, in this case).
In the beginning, you described Crono as "something of a troublemaker, and something about Zac's mischivious grin just screams Crono. Crono is a character with attitude." At the end, you describe him as a blank slate. Which is it? Finally, there's the whole issue of him portraying an array of emotions. I mean, can you honestly see Mr. Efron pulling this off?
(http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/c/c2/Ctpsxcrono.png)
I certainly can't. Being bred as an actor in the Walt Disney company (as the company presently stands) leaves him with little to no ability to express that level of anger as portrayed in the above picture.
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I STILL think Mark Hammill would make a great Dalton and Summer Glau would make a sweet Schala.
Mark Hammill as Dalton = GENIUS
But I agree with most of your choices Lennis, expect Sandra Bullock for Queen Zeal, and Efron, for the reasoning Genesis One gave earlier in a very nice and articulate way.
But I agree 100% in your Gurus, specially Ian Holm as Melchior, well... all three of them fit perfectly with the way I see the Gurus in my head.
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On another note, I'd like to see Jeremy Irons be at least one of the gurus. He deserves it given his film credits (He was in the remake of The Time Machine, for crying out loud. How obvious of a clue do you need to see him in the CT movie?)
Then there's Rodney Taylor, who could fill the role of Belthasar (yes, the Time Traveler from the 1960 version of The Time Machine). Isn't it obvious? He even looks the part with just proper facial hair additions.
As for Mark Hamill... well, he too suffers from Typecasting. Case in point?
"Hey, look! It's Luke Skywalker!"
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Well... he hasn't done anything in a lot of time, so yeah, a lot of people will say "that's Lewk!", but the ones that do recognize him will be glad to see him doing something else, and the ones that don't wont bother.
Zach Efron is a big star right now, and has been doing a lot of youth roles, he needs to dial down before he can move to something else, kind of what happened to Jude Law in 06, he did spend some time in the shade, and now he's back and as I understand he's doing a pretty good job as Watson.
EDIT: And Jeremy Irons is awesome, but I don't know... he looks a lot younger than the rest of the Gurus, that's not saying he couldn't pull it off, just that to me he has the "Old Retired Knight" look rather than "Elder Wiseman". But I would gladly see him in any movie, he's one of those top notch actors that simply don't get the recognition they deserve.
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@GenesisOne: Sorry about the confusion regarding Crono. By "blank slate", I was referring to Crono's muteness in the original game. That gives whatever actor who portrays him some latitude; more latitude than for other characters. But the script would call for Crono being a risk-taker and occasional troublemaker, so the actor would have a general boundary on where he could take the character.
As for Zac Efron, I must admit I was considering his looks more than his acting ability. I haven't even seen anything he's been in, truthfully. :oops: The trouble is, I can't envision anyone else in the role at present. It would have to be someone fairly young; someone who can look like a teenager rather than a twenty-something. If Zac Efron "dialed down", then he would be too old for the part when he came back, and we would have to look for someone else. How many popular young stars don't come out of the Disney factory nowadays? Casting an unknown in this part would be risky.
Jeremy Irons is an excellent actor, he just doesn't look the Guru part as well as the Lord of the Rings alumni do.
I chose Sandra Bullock for Queen Zeal in part because of her age. A couple of years ago, I wouldn't have considered it, but her star seems to be rising. An insane queen would certainly be a different role for her. Sigourney Weaver might also be a good choice, but she's 15 years older than Bullock and would be hard to sell as the mother of a young prince. Do we want an older queen or a younger queen?
So I guess next we should analyze Hayden Panettiere's suitability to play Marle.
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Hayden looks Marle enough, and she has some roles under her belt, I think she can pull it off.
Sigourney Weaver would be a better choice for Queen Zeal IMHO, I prefer an older Queen, and Sigourney mainly because I think she can pull off the amount of crazy the role needs.
EDIT: Sharon Stone has the crazy eyes, I don't think she would go for the role, but her career needs some play, if she would commit to the role, I think she would do a great job. I don't know... because of the important part Queen Zeal plays, and the requirements of such a role (Female over 40, needs to be able to portray the crazy without being terribly over the top, whiling to commit to a role like this, etc.) I think this would be the hardest role to cast, along with Crono, as a leading man, I would prefer a relative unknown, but the problem with that is if this person could be up to the task.
On that same note... maybe Michelle Pfeiffer?
EDIT 2: Or Famke Janssen? She played Jean Grey, so maybe she wouldn't mind playing a videogame character... I really don't know...
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On another note, I'd like to see Jeremy Irons be at least one of the gurus. He deserves it given his film credits (He was in the remake of The Time Machine, for crying out loud. How obvious of a clue do you need to see him in the CT movie?)
Christopher Lloyd as either Belthasar, the Chancellor, or Doan.
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Christopher Lloyd as Doan would be perfect!
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Hmm... the CT Movie, starring Hayden Panettiere as Marle Guardia?
Well, you lucked out on this one. Hayden doesn't fall prey to typecasting like poor Mr. Efron does. Given that Heroes will eventually wrap up, she has the potential to be open for casting.
As for her alleged "passing knowledge" of Chrono Trigger? Well, it would be ideal for all performers auditioning to do background research the character he/she wishes to try out for. I mean, it's great that CT got a lucky break as a passing line on Heroes, but it's incidental at most.
I say she has lots of promise and potential as Marle. In the meantime, perhaps you can pull up some other dirty blondes currently out there. (Is Hayden a dirty blonde? I've only seen her in the series.)
Update: Christopher Lloyd as one of the Gurus? Well, he's not that much of a victim of typecasting. Even so (just to be funny)...
"Hey look! It's Doc Brown!"
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I know Hayden best from Heroes, obviously. She also had another cheerleading role in "Bring it On: All or Nothing". Other than that, her resume seems pretty varied. To address the issue of possible typecasting, the character of Marle is also something of a cheerleader in places, but unlike Claire Bennett, Marle is far from defenseless. Hayden would probably welcome the chance to kick some tail after spending 4+ years as the Heroes scriptwriters punching bag. (I really wish Claire would learn some martial arts and put her regenerative abilities to practical use. Is she supposed to be a hero or not?)
Next up is Battlestar Galactica's Nicki Clyne as Lucca Ashtear. This is arguably the most important and riskiest role to cast in a four-episode arc. Get Lucca wrong, and the whole series falls apart. After Crono "dies" at the end of Episode II, Lucca shares the protagonist's role with Marle in Episode III, then effectively takes it over in Episode IV when her future becomes an integral part of the plot. Again, this assumes that Chrono Cross will be dealt with in some way. Evolving Lucca from third billing to first over the course of the series is unconventional to say the least, but killing off the main character of the game (Crono) wasn't conventional either. The question is whether Nicki Clyne can handle that kind of transition. I say yes. She stepped up in Battlestar in a way no one really expected. I sure didn't. She has just the right combination of sweetness and fire to bring Lucca to life. The only real negative to Clyne is her age - being 10 - 11 years older than the character she would portray. But in film, the issue of age can be fudged by simply not bringing it up in the dialogue. So long as the three leads look close enough in age, it can still work. Aging Lucca a few years as a plot device in later installments is also an option. (Episodes I and II will - and should - follow the game very closely. Episodes III and IV not so much if we want to resolve the ending of Chrono Cross.)
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Nicki Clyne as Lucca Ashtear? Hmm...
Cut her hair, dye it a magenta color, slap the clothes and helmet on her and whaddya get?
(http://www.acparadise.com/cosplayers/12361/12361-10054-2.jpg)
Well, it was the best picture I could find of someone dressing up as her. It was that or this:
(http://www.acparadise.com/cosplayers/12361/12361-10054-7.jpg)
Which do you prefer? Me? I like to second one better.
Anyways, take the above cosplay costume and make it look more authentic and world-weary for dear Miss Clyne, and I do believe she can pull it off.
As a side note, I would like to make one thing clear:
Your casting list is a wish list that you shouldn't set your hopes too high on. I've been reading "Save the Cat: The Last Book on Screenwriting You'll Ever Need" by Blake Snyder (the best spec screenplay seller to date), and he says that down in Hollywood, rare is the occasion where dream script meets dream cast. If you cast your movie in your head beforehand, you'll always walk away with disappointment when the casting director finishes his work on your movie.
Actors and actresses claim that they wish to find the acting role that they want and would know how to fill it, but don't fall for it. They have no idea what they're looking for, and it's a pretty good guess that the actors and actresses that you just listed have that same lack of idea as well.
I'm not trying to shoot you down or anything; I'm just being realistic. It's a great list (don't get me wrong), but I wouldn't expect even half of these people to make the cast should a CT trilogy ever became a reality due to either previous commitments or creative differences (I say trilogy because some of the best film franchises came in trilogies; best to follow a formula that has proven successful over time)
Up next: the failure knight known as Frog/Glenn! Hooray! :D
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Wait just a second... "Failure??" "FAILURE?"
How DARE you!! Nobody takes a shot at Frog! :x
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Wait just a second... "Failure??" "FAILURE?"
How DARE you!! Nobody takes a shot at Frog! :x
YEAH! :shock:
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...'Cept Magus. But we let that one SLIDE!
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Wait just a second... "Failure??" "FAILURE?"
How DARE you!! Nobody takes a shot at Frog! :x
Tell that to the trope which I summoned the name of (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FailureKnight).
Look. It's even got Frog/Glenn as its poster child. What a coinky-dink!
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O_O
I was joking... I thought that was obvious... :(
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Yeah, I knew it was a joke. Sorry if I came off as serious. Anyways...
Frog/Glenn starring either Patrick Stewart or Liam Neeson? Hmm...
Patrick Stewart has had his early career in stage (Wow! The Royal Shakespeare Company and the Royal National Theatre), so being a classically trained actor would work to his advantage being the voice of frog. Seeing how he had his roots in English stage work, he sounds like the most likely candidate.
Liam Neeson, on the other hand, has had some perennial roles starring in various movies (Qui-Gon Jinn and Aslan; sci-fi and fantasy, respectively), so his hybrid knowledge of both genres seems to play a significant role in his potential for the part of Frog.
Gee... These two actors have so much potential between them, it's hard to choose. Personally, I'd place my money on Patrick Stewart due to his prestige in the theater, something Frog seems to portray quite well through his dialect (in some sense, Frog is sort of like Prince Hamlet).
As for the execution of the character Frog, I was thinking of taking a hybrid approach. A person shorter than the lead cast would wear the costume with a mocap head piece for Frog's head. Frog's head would then be a CG rendition in post-production, with either Stewart or Neeson doing the voice acting concurrently. If anyone had a better idea, let it be known.
What says you, Lennis?
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Yeah, I knew it was a joke. Sorry if I came off as serious. Anyways...
Frog/Glenn starring either Patrick Stewart or Liam Neeson? Hmm...
Patrick Stewart has had his early in stage (Wow! The Royal Shakespeare Company and the Royal National Theatre), so being a classically trained actor would work to his advantage being the voice of frog. Seeing how he had his roots in English stage work, he sounds like the most likely candidate.
Liam Neeson, on the other hand, has had some perennial roles starring in various movies (Qui-Gon Jinn and Aslan; sci-fi and fantasy, respectively), so his hybrid knowledge of both genres seems to play a significant role in his potential for the part of Frog.
Gee... These two actors have so much potential between them, it's hard to choose. Personally, I'd place my money on Patrick Stewart due to his prestige in the theater, something Frog seems to portray quite well through his dialect (in some sense, Frog is sort of like Prince Hamlet).
As for the execution of the character Frog, I was thinking of taking a hybrid approach. A person shorter than the lead cast would wear the costume with a mocap head piece for Frog's head. Frog's head would then be a CG rendition in post-production, with either Stewart or Neeson doing the voice acting concurrently. If anyone had a better idea, let it be known.
What says you, Lennis?
The kind of acrobatics I envision for Frog would not lend itself well to a hybrid approach. Think Yoda. Glenn's amphibian form grants him abilities well beyond even a skilled human. A human stuntman/actor could not convey this.
Patrick Stewart would be my first choice. Liam Neeson my second. Both are capable.
Now what about Robo?
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The kind of acrobatics I envision for Frog would not lend itself well to a hybrid approach. Think Yoda. Glenn's amphibian form grants him abilities well beyond even a skilled human. A human stuntman/actor could not convey this.
You would be surprised at what some human stuntmen are capable of in terms of acrobatics. Picture Parkour artists and Urban ninja. YouTube is your friend in this case.
Now for the part of...
Robo/Prometheus starring Hugo Weaving?
This would be an agreeable role to take. If one synthesizes his voice to make it sound more robotic, it would fit him very well. Unfortunately, he has commitment issues for production of The Hobbit coming out in either 2011/2012, so him gracing us with his stardom will have to wait.
A costume would be an easy fit for Mr. Weaving since Robo's got lots of bulk on his body. What says you?
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Let's see, who's next on the list? Ah, yes.
Ayla starring Uma Thurman. *Cue Ayla's theme*
Well, well. Quite the accomplisher, isn't she? Pulp Fiction and both Kill Bills.
I'd say yes at first, but casting the role of Ayla comes as a another side note to casting:
Sometimes, casting directors are forced to go beyond their normal boundaries in order to find the optimal role. Consider, for example, the roles of tall characters in films (e.g. Jaws from the 007 films or Chewbacca of Star Wars fame), or small characters (like the Munchkins from The Wizard of Oz).
Don't get me wrong; CGI has made great strides in the last decade, but why spend hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of dollars and hundreds of man hours to pull off such visual effects when it can easily be resolved with the right casting decision?
Have you considered looking into, say, competitors of the annual Ms. Olympia competition? They already have the muscle to pull off the look (and in some cases, the hair to boot), so you should at least give that a possibility. Other than that, this casting decision is still open to discussion.
What says you?
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To respond to an earlier post, Efron is actually built pretty well and in excellent physical shape and would be a believable warrior. He also does posses the boyish charm for the part, and I don't think Efron would consider doing swordfights and magic "typecasting" him in the same type of role he's played before.
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Sorry I've been away for awhile.
For Robo, I figured Weaving would be a good choice in part because it would be VO. He could do all his work in an audio studio and not necessarily have to be on set with everyone else. I've heard they do "Shrek" in this way. I don't see a costume approach at all doable unless they completely redesign the character. (cringe) From a production standpoint it would be much easier just to make a CGI Robo.
I never considered looking at lady bodybuilders. For one thing, Ayla has to be able to emote. Just because her dialogue is primitive doesn't mean her character can be played by someone with little to no acting experience. Secondly, modern bodybuilders have fake physiques - meaning that they use artificial means to attain them. I don't think there are many GMC stores in 65,000,000 B.C.
Updating my Marle casting, it looks like Hayden Panettiere has dyed her hair red and that really throws a wrench in things. :( I really don't know who else to cast. Maybe there's another young starlet on the way up?
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Hey, Lennis. Nice to have you back.
Well, if they can put Anthony Daniels in a convincing C-3PO costume (back in 1976, no less) , I'm sure they can put Hugo Weaving in a bulky, yet sophisticated Robo/Prometheus costume without a problem. If they could do it then, they are more than capable of doing it now.
As for the female bodybuilders, not every woman uses steroids (anabolic or otherwise) to gain their amazing physiques. Even if they didn't have GMCs back in the Prehistoric Era, it's still a casting that I wouldn't just skip lightly over. Who knows? You might even find some good acting talent in one those women.
Up next: Zachary Quinto as Janus/Magus. This oughta be good...
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Ok I know this might make everyone upset but seriously with makeup I think Taylor Lautner might be good for Magus. He knows how to use a bo staff so fighting is already experienced. Also his face kinda gives me a Magus feel. I could see him do it well with some makeup.
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Taylor Lautner, you say? Hmm...
Well, Magus doesn't have a bow staff. He has a scythe, and the weapon dynamics involved with a scythe are different... but probably nothing Lautner can't learn with instructor's guidance.
Slap on the costume and make-up, and maybe (just maybe), you have a working Magus character. What says you, Lennis?
Up next: the minor characters with a MAJOR presence in the story.
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How about a Chrono Cross movie? I know there are 43 characters to fill, but we could focus on the more important/popular characters.
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I think Dane Cook should play Crono. We'll see how long Crono remains a mute.
Hah.
John Noble as Belthasar is fucking perfect
I agree :D
Phuck yes! :P
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Taylor Lautner, you say? Hmm...
Well, Magus doesn't have a bow staff. He has a scythe, and the weapon dynamics involved with a scythe are different... but probably nothing Lautner can't learn with instructor's guidance.
Slap on the costume and make-up, and maybe (just maybe), you have a working Magus character. What says you, Lennis?
Up next: the minor characters with a MAJOR presence in the story.
I don't know much about Taylor Lautner, but he looks much too young to play Magus. However, he might make the perfect Serge. If the character makes an appearence in the later installments, why not use Lautner? His bo staff experience would closely mimic Serge's fighting style.
On the subject of a dedicated Chrono Cross film, I really don't think it would be manageable. Even if you pared the cast down to only the most essential characters, you'd still have the problem of the convoluted plot. I'm planning to address this somewhat in my upcoming "Project Unity" fan fic in its later stages, though being 100% true to Chrono Cross canon probably won't happen. That's one reason I'm reinventing certain aspects in my version of Chrono, though the core story remains faithful to the original.
On the subject of minor cast members, the most important by far is Schala - even though she doesn't get a lot of screen time. Schala's fate basically determines the fate of the whole Chrono universe. Save her, and we have a happy ending. Don't save her and everyone's pretty much screwed. The audience needs to know why we should care about her so much. I envision Ellen Page playing Schala. What say everyone else?
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Ellen Page or Jenna Malone, but I'd say Page would be a better sarcastic, witty Lucca than a broken-will, dough-eyed Schala. Malone has been typecast in almost that exact role, but is still (pretty much) unknown.
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Sean Faris (http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/sean-faris/photos/190912/75795) as Crono, just because once I hear someone suggest him as a possible Goku and I thought he looked ok for that :P Um, A younger Drew Barrymore (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2P1L8aTivtc/TUDXmBOTO8I/AAAAAAAABfY/eMEnxMzHVPA/s1600/drew-barrymore11-1.jpg) as Marle. Ashley Massaro (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_o4vjAPwU6E8/SZl7JONLZwI/AAAAAAAAAwU/8OE3QX-uBWM/s1600-h/FP9239~WWE-Ashley-Posters.jpg) as Ayla.
Um... ummm I can't decide for Lucca. I got it, I want Amber Tamblyn (http://image.photography5.com/95506758/Celebrities/Amber-Tamblyn/Amber-Tamblyn-15.JPG) as Lucca (naybe I just watch too much House MD.... I like how she can look both pretty and awkward in the show, plus she plays a girl genius who nobody can take seriously :P )
Ok I know this might make everyone upset but seriously with makeup I think Taylor Lautner might be good for Magus.
I think Taylor's face is too boyish for Magus. If I was to pick someone from the Twilight movies I would say Alex Meraz (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LCDHpJtCDP8/TS4RZ-x-ptI/AAAAAAAAAL0/fn7YE60Jg-A/s1600/Alex-Meraz-paul-alex-meraz.jpg) for Magus. But contrary to everybody, I don't really imagine him looking that young, I would say Ralph Fiennes (http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/fiennes.jpg).
I think Robo would be better as an animatronic puppet. And frog I can only imagine him as CGI... as for his human form, not sure, I guess it really depends on if he is going to be based on the long haired glenn or the green haired vegeta .
How about a Chrono Cross movie? I know there are 43 characters to fill, but we could focus on the more important/popular characters.
Maybe a well shaved Tom Welling (http://sp3.fotolog.com/photo/35/54/58/arelitha_lokitha/1237828685437_f.jpg) as Serge. Ashley Benson (http://images.wikia.com/prettylittleliars/images/b/b7/Ashley_Benson-8.jpg) as Kid(and Harle...and Schala). Karen Gillan (http://www.celebritydesktopwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Karen-Gillan-Amy-Pond-005-400x300.jpg) as Leena. If I could I would bring a younger Tom Selleck (http://images.wikia.com/doblaje/es/images/e/e2/TomSelleck.jpg) from the past and have him as Fargo 8)
Also this dog as Poshul. Nuff said
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/licawolf/angel_dog.jpg)
EDIT: tsk, changed my mind. Not about Poshul of course
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David Bowie as Guile/Magus/whatever other incarnation he happens to be.
Patrick Stewart as Viper.
Dave Keuning (guitarist for The Killers) as Pierre.
Mark Stoermer (bassist for The Killers) as Nikki.
Tim Curry as (voiceover for) Lynx.
I don't know who would be the actual actor, but they should dub over Grobyc's voice with a slightly manipulated Michael Bell.
Ewan McGregor as Karsh (hey, he's well built (http://girlstalkinsmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ewan-mcgregor.jpg), has the eyebrows and his scowling face would fit Karsh really well).
Tobey MacGwire as Norris (this is a maybe, really).
Brian Hughes Warner (Marilyn Manson) as Doc.
I could probably list off more as i went on, but it would take way to long.
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Also this dog as Poshul. Nuff said
...As always, I end up taking my own jokes too seriously... I started thinking about dog breeds that could possibly play Poshul in a movie adaptation (I know I know I'm so pathetic why im writing this dammit :picardno). I think that if we respect the silly cartoony design of Poshul, in a live-action she would end up looking like a muppet, so I was thinking, If she was an actual breed of dog (ignoring her impossibly ridiculous hind legs and the two tails...) I want her to be of some big bulky breed, with cute puppy face if possible... and paint her pink...this is the worst idea ever
My first thought was "Old english shepherd!"
(http://www.old-english-sheepdogs.com/pictures-images-photos/old-english-sheepdogs-02.jpg)
...but I'm not convinced, too fluffy and the regular bobtail has the eyes hidden, I want to see Poshul's cute puppy eyes.
Other breeds I thought about:
Bearded collie: what I like about this one is the way the hair covers all the dog giving it a strange look, all the bizarre impossible anatomy of poshul could be ignored. It's all there just behind that hair, I swear!:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GzIe-ofoU3A/RkiV-IK8Z9I/AAAAAAAAAB8/3kjrNh49yrs/s320/coll.JPG) (http://www.edinglen.com/images/page_33.jpg) (http://www.starsatsea.net/images/bearded_collie_sally.jpg) (http://www.collieclub.es/web%20club/razas_comportamiento_bearded_collie.jpg)
Polish Lowland Sheepdog: Another dog that suffers from lack of eyes.
(http://www.infogranja.com.ar/perros/Polish_Lowland.jpg) (http://www.viarural.com.pe/ganaderia/mascotas/fotografias-perros/pastor-polaco-de-la-llanura-02.jpg)
Terranova Dog: This one is different, but it's bulky and has a cute face. d'awww look at that face.... there's also a possible coloration with white parts but I couldn't find a good photo.
(http://www.mundo-perro.com.ar/galeria/terranova/galeria-slides/15e6c0f.jpeg)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5bkVZc9YPTo/RbJlIxCMqDI/AAAAAAAAABM/vC8rpTJZc1c/s400/Terranova.jpg)(http://images.quebarato.com.br/T440x/terranova+aserri+san+jose+costa+rica__6F313_1.jpg)
Tibetan Mastiff: Big bulky dog, cute puppy face. They are very strong too. Also they look awesome when they get angry, but that's neither here nor there.The red coloration actually exists, and it's like the most expensive dog in the world or something... now imagine the price a of a pink one!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WrqBYX9X53s/TFxRZ3MDogI/AAAAAAAACL4/O07HDaf990Q/s1600/Tibetan-Mastiff.jpg)(http://www.damego.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/TibetanMastiff-300x300.png)(http://tengotecno.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/3e852_red-tibetan-mastiff-puppy-most-expensive-dog_dGwwa_48.jpg)
This is my most retarded post yet...I'm sorry... I just really like dogs...
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This is my most retarded post yet...I'm sorry... I just really like dogs...
That's totally fine, I got to overdose on the cute that is your post.