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Enhasa Halls - Chrono Series Analysis => Chrono Trigger DS Analysis => Topic started by: ZeaLitY on November 24, 2008, 07:21:14 am
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SPOILERS
Here are things that we need to complete coverage of Chrono Trigger DS and facilitate the fan community's analysis of the game.
1. Dialogue Script - IN PROGRESS
We need to rip the script of the game if we ever hope to conclusively track down all relevant changes. Having a script will also facilitate discussion as the meaning of statements regarding the new content can be debated. The script will be presented in a dual Japanese / English text file, at which point work would begin on a spreadsheet containing columns for the original Japanese, the new Japanese, the original English, the Tom Slattery CT DS English, and finally the KWhazit retranslation, which will probably continue to serve as the canonical standard. The text script will be posted to GameFAQs as soon as it's ready.
Currently, Vehek is experimenting with script dumping.
2. Promo Music Rip - COMPLETE
Someone should use EAC to make a lossless rip of the two-disc promotional music CD that came with the game, and also scan the cover artwork and disc. It will be put in the Chrono Series Music Archive.
3. DBT / Time's Eclipse - CONFIRMED SAME
Shinja has confirmed that Time's Eclipse is the Darkness Beyond Time.
Someone needs to compare the Japanese for "Darkness Beyond Time" as used in Chrono Cross to the Japanese for "Time's Eclipse" as used in CT DS to determine if they're the same area and Tom Slattery simply chose a different translation than Richard Honeywood. This has a LOT of plot bearing, so the sooner the better!
4. Guides - IN PROCESS OF ACQUISITION FROM GAMEFAQS
Not for GameFAQs, but for Compendium coverage the new content in general. We need healthy guides to the Lost Sanctum and the Dimensional Distortion dungeons, as well as the Arena of the Ages (which should include a monster evolution chart). Work is going on here (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=6313.0) and the results will be posted at the Chrono Trigger DS encyclopedia page.
5. Item List
I guess this could fall under script, but a list of all the items and they're attributes could help us separate and present the new content well. Even I seemed to miss a few new items in my run-through.
6. Graphics
For purposes of encyclopedia presentation and discussion, we need good images of the game's graphics -- especially of the Dream Devourer, including images of it without Schala, with Schala, in its natural element in the Time's Eclipse, and perhaps one with Schala standing inside. We'll also need sprite sheets for the new monsters, like the Smidge, and the new palette-swapped monsters. I'm sure there's some easy way to take the sprite sheet of an original Omnicron and apply a palette from CT DS to simplify things, but it's not my forte.
7. Analysis
The analysis HQ is at this thread (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=6290.0).
8. Commercial
Someone can translate this DS commercial (what's Magus saying?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=695wPKH3ihk
9. Dream Devourer / Time Devourer JP Comparison - DIFFERENT
We should find out if the Dream Devourer and Time Devourer have the same JP name.
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=6314.msg119073#msg119073
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More will be added as needed.
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I've been working on the changed items and locations, but I'm missing a lot of equipment due to trying to rush through the game. So if anyone can fill in those gaps...
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I'll also help with the items.
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1. Dialogue Script - IN PROGRESS
We need to rip the script of the game if we ever hope to conclusively track down all relevant changes. Having a script will also facilitate discussion as the meaning of statements regarding the new content can be debated. The script will be presented in a dual Japanese / English text file, at which point work would begin on a spreadsheet containing columns for the original Japanese, the new Japanese, the original English, the Tom Slattery CT DS English, and finally the KWhazit retranslation, which will probably continue to serve as the canonical standard. The text script will be posted to GameFAQs as soon as it's ready.
Currently, Vehek is experimenting with script dumping.
Please PM me when the script is done and where to find it. I would love to read it.
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Speaking about items, anyone know what currently the best equipment is for Chrono, Magus, and Marle? I got the Dreamweaver and Master's Crown for Chrono, but haven't found any armor for him yet that's better then the Moonbeam Armor. For Magus I only found the Shadowpume Robe, apart from that I didn't find any equipment for him better then his equipment from Ozzie's Lair. For Ayla I found nada, nothing better then Prism Helmet + Prism Dress
I would love to know if there is any better equipment out there for these characters
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Saurian Leathers have a higher Defense rating than Moonbeam Armor, and they increase Strength and Speed +3 - though by the time you get the armor, Crono's Speed and Strength should be **. You get it in the Lost Sanctum.
The only thing for Ayla I found was the Valor Crest. It's one of the last rewards in the Lost Sanctum and is an accessory that boosts critical hit rate and adds a 50% counter rate.
Magus has two scythes, one in the Lost Sanctum, one in the Dimensional Vortex that has 4x critical hit damage. The latter is found in the Dimensional Vortex, in the Present dungeon. There's a Strength Capsule that's sort of hidden - reach it and go south into what appears to be a pointless hole. But actually, it takes you to a hidden area where you can get his weapon.
Dragonhead (helmet) gives higher attack/strength ratings, but lower defense/speed than his Gloom armor. But like Crono, Saurian Leathers is better in every way.
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Well I finished Lost Sanctum 65,000,000 BC but no Saurian Leathers or w/e yet. Most stuff you find there is crappy btw. Marle's Stardust Bow for example is worse then the old Valkyrye bow. Wtf?
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Where exactly is the "Darkness Beyond Time" mentioned in Chrono Cross? I searched the script quickly and all I found was Marle's line at Opassa Beach:
"A new species is about to be born on this planet -- an alien life-form even more evolved than the old Lavos! At the darkness beyond time, the weakened Schala came under the influence of Lavos, and the two became one entity. It is now up to you, the one whom the Frozen Flame has chosen as its '"arbiter"'... You alone can decide how the new Lavos, which has encaged Schala within it, will evolve from here! Your actions will determine whether in the future all time is devoured by Lavos, sending the world into everlasting death. Belthasar foresaw this was going to happen, in his world in the year 2300. And he was determined to prevent it from happening, no matter what it took..."
Unfortunately, there's no equivalent to that line in the Japanese. I think it's a clarifying line added to the English translation of that part. Marle goes straight from the first sentence, about the new lifeform evolved from Lavos into talking about Serge's ability to decide how/whether Lavos evolves (because he's the arbiter of the Frozen Flame). She does mention that Lavos has swallowed Schala, but she never makes a mention of where this new being is.
The individual party member's lines about the gate consistently refer to it as a gate to the "darkness of time" just like in the English translation. I don't think the word for "darkness" there in the Japanese ("yami") could be translated as eclipse. Although, obviously, darkness and eclipse have similar meanings.
I can try to put together a coherent retranslation of Marle's lines here, if you want.
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Shinja, you know Japanese?
A hearty welcome to you! We need translation skills all over the place.
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Here's a screenshot with "Time's Eclipse" in Japanese.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/TtravelrKev/Misc%20CT%20Stuff/EndOfTimeBucket-CTDS.png)
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Here's a screenshot with "Time's Eclipse" in Japanese.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/TtravelrKev/Misc%20CT%20Stuff/EndOfTimeBucket-CTDS.png)
Yeah, the second option there just says, "Darkness of Time". It's the same thing all the character's say when referring to the gate.
Here's Kid's line about the gate:
Kid
「時の闇につながる、最後の扉。
とうとう、この時がきちまったな。
オレは逃げないぜ！
Notice the first three characters are the same (after the opening quotation mark).
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Woah! Does this mean that Time's Eclipse is actually the Darkness Beyond Time?
I sense the need for a reretranslation.
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Woah! Does this mean that Time's Eclipse is actually the Darkness Beyond Time?
I sense the need for a reretranslation.
That was kinda obvious from the start, it seems unlikely that he would shift from one dimension to yet another. Besides, if it wasn't, it would be a mystery what "Time's Eclipse" would be.
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Welcome aboard, Shinja! :D
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So, it's the Darkness Beyond Time, or Darkness of Time...
What the hell, Tom? Richard Honeywood had it right. If this is true, then depending on the canonical status of Crono's visit (versus the canonicity of the events), the Darkness Beyond Time MAY exist for all dimensions, which brings up the probabilistic problem of applying infinity to the chance of a Time Devourer forming. Still, under the interpretation that it is simply a version of our beloved Magus and the Chrono team doesn't really visit in canon (especially since Lavos has to be defeated for the Dream / Time Devourer to exist), perhaps we can keep it one DBT per dimension (except one for both Another and Home, probably).
Still, what's with that translation? Yeesh. The only other horrible line I noticed was Magus's "Lavos has guided evolution" thing, which was misleading from the Woolsey days.
Edit: I don't have the original Japanese with me, but can anyone go ahead and compare Dream Devourer to Cross's Time Devourer? If they're homogenous, then yech, someone's going to pay in the US localization team.
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If they're homogenous, then yech, someone's going to pay in the US localization team.
More likely than not they already are.
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Edit: Thanks to Shinrin for pointing out bugs on the item list.
Consumables
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Potion - Restores 50 HP.
Mid Potion - Restores 200 HP.
Hi-Potion - Restores 500 HP.
Ether - Restores 10 MP.
Mid-Ether - Restores 30 MP.
Hi-Ether - Restores 60 MP.
Elixir - Fully restores HP/MP.
Turbo Ether - Fully Restores MP.
Megalixir - Fully restores entire party's HP/MP.
Panancea - Removes status ailments.
Dried Mushroom - Removes status ailments. (Battle only)
Athenian Water - Revives a KO'd ally.
Shelter - Fully Restores HP/MP at a save point.
Ambrosia - Restores ???.
Lapis - Restores 200 HP to all party members.
Barrier Sphere - Reduces magical damage by 1/3.
Shield Capsule - Reduces physical damage by 1/3.
Strength Capsule - Permanently raises Strength by 1.
Magic Capsule - Permanently raises Magic by 1.
Speed Capsule - Permanently raises Speed by 1.
Smoked Meat - Restores 250 HP.
Sweet Banana - Restores 20 MP.
Millenia Fruit - Restores 150 HP.
Songbird Egg - Restores 40 MP.
Monster Items
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Slops - Restores a small amount of HP.
Flameclaw - Unleashes fire-based monster tech.
Seafang - Unleashes water-based monster tech.
Duskeye - Unleashes shadow-based monster tech.
Luxwing - Unleashes light-based monster tech.
Hawk Talon - Temporarily boosts Strength by 5.
Shield Cloak - Reduces physical damage by 1/3.
Feral Wrath - Boosts critical hit damage to 4x.
Key Items
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Petal
Fang
Horn
Feather
Seed
Jetbike Key
Pendant
Gate Key
Rainbow Shard
Chrono Trigger
Carpenter's Tools
Spiced Jerky
Dreamstone
Race Recorder
Moon Stone
Sun Stone
Ruby Knife
Yakra's Key
Doppel Doll
Toma's Spirits
2 Petals
2 Fangs
2 Horns
2 Feathers
Golden Sand
Golden Hammer
Prismastone
Saintstone
Reptmark
Waystone
Godwood
Steel Ingot
Sturdy Vines
Hearty Lunch
Lumicite Shard
Items that cannot be equipped nor are they Key Items
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Broken Blade - The shattered blade of a legendary sword. ~0 Attack~ (Non-Equippable)
Broken Hilt - The useless hilt of a legendary sword. ~0 Attack~ (Non-Equippable)
Masamune - A legendary sword wielded by the chosen. ~0 Attack~ (Non-Equippable)
Weapons
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Crono
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Wooden Sword - A stury hardwood blade. ~3 Attack~
Bronze Blade - A single-edged bronze sword. ~7 Attack~
Steel Saber - An orthodox steel saber. ~15 Attack~
Silver Sword - A distinctive sword with a lustrous blade. ~20 Attack~
Crimson Blade - A red stone sword imbued with magic. (Magic +2) ~30 Attack~
Mammoth Tusk - A sword carved from a mammoth's tusk. ~40 Attack~
Dark Saber - A blade enveloped in darkness. ~50 Attack~
Primeval Blade - A sword steeped in ancient power. ~70 Attack~
Zanmato - A blade forged to pierce demonic armor. (1.5x damage to magical beings) ~90 Attack~
Vajra Sword - A diamond-edged sword. ~110 Attack~
Empyrean Blade - A heavenly sword gifted to kings of men. ~125 Attack~
Yaksha Blade - A sword that draws upon a yaksha's might. ~135 Attack~
Onimaru - A blade with a demon's soul bound inside. ~150 Attack~
Suzaku - A sword imbued with holy power. (4x damage for critical hits) ~170 Attack~
Thunder Blade - A mighty sword that strikes like lightning. ~25 Attack~
Slasher - Slash's beloved katana. (Speed +2) ~43 Attack~
Mop - A wooden mop made for scrubbing floors. ~1 Attack~
Swallow - A masterwork blade with a fine edge. (Speed +3) ~145 Attack~
Slasher II - Sladh's beloved katana. ~155 Attack~
Rainbow - A blade that shimmers in prismatic hues. (Critical Rate: 70%) ~220 Attack~
Icewyrm - A katana engraved with a brilliant blue dragon. ~160 Attack~
Dreamseeker - A mystical blade said to be forged of dreams (Critical Rate: 90%) ~240 Attack~
Marle
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Brozne Bowgun - A bronzework bowgun. ~3 Attack~
Iron Bowgun - A small crossbow that fires iron bolts. ~15 Attack~
Silver Bow - A bow crafted of dazzling silver. ~20 Attack~
Bandit's Bow - A type of bow favored by outlaws. ~25 Attack~
Shaman's Bow - A bow employed by ancient occultists. ~40 Attack~
Dreamstone Bow - A cinnabar-hued dreamstone bow. ~60 Attack~
Comet Bow - A bow whose shafts strike like meteorites. ~80 Attack~
Sonic Bow - A bow that fires arrows at sonic speed. (Inflicts Slow) ~100 Attack~
Valkyrie Bow - A longbow instilled with a valkyrie's might. ~180 Attack~
Siren's Kiss - A legendary bow with a sonorous string. (Inflicts Stop) ~140 Attack~
Stardust Bow - A bow whose arrows strike like falling stars. (Inflicts confuse) ~150 Attack~
Venus Bow - A bow crafted in the image of beauty. (Deals 777 Damage) ~0 Attack~
Lucca
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Pea Shooter - A gun that fires pea-sized bullets. ~7 Attack~
Pcket Blaster - A gun that can be shot with one hand. ~15 Attack~
Picomagnum - A toy-like revolver. ~20 Attack~
Plasma Gun - A gun capable of freezing robots in their tracks. (Inflicts Stop on robots) ~25 Attack~
Ruby Gun - A pstol that focuses light through a ruby. ~40 Attack~
Dreamstone Gun - A dreamstone pistol that fires light beams. ~60 Attack~
Megablaster - A devastatingly powerful laser blaster. ~80 Attack~
Shockwave - A handheld electric wave blaster. (Inflicts Confuse) ~110 Attack~
Wondershot - A gun containing the Sun Stone's strenght. (Random Damage) ~250 Attack~
Gravitator - A mighty weapon that alters gravity. (Halves enemy HP) ~60 Attack~
Turboshot - A gun designed to fire rounds at rapid speed. (Speed +3) ~140 Attack~
Spellslginer - A fearsome gun that fires spectral energy. (Damaged based on last digit of MP) ~0 Attack~
Robo
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Tin Arm - A robotic arm cosntructed of tin. ~20 Attack~
Hammer Arm - A hammer-shaped arm for pounding. ~25 Attack~
Mirage Hand - A punching arm enhanced for speed. ~30 Attack~
Stone Arm - A stone-launching attack arm. ~40 Attack~
Death Claw - An attack arm employing fearsome claws. ~50 Attack~
Magma Hand - An arm containing superheated magma. ~70 Attack~
Megaton Arm - An arm that packs a massive punch. ~90 Attack~
Heavy Hand - An enormously destructive crushing arm. ~105 Attack~
Kaiser Arm - A fighting arm tipped with a large blade. ~120 Attack~
Gigaton Arm - An arm capable of dealing a mighty wallop. ~135 Attack~
Teraton Arm - A terribly powerful punching arm. ~150 Attack~
Crisis Arm - A fierce arm capable of incredible attacks. (Damage based on last digit of HP) ~1 Attack~
Dragon Arm - An arm with the crushing strength of a dragon. ~170 Attack~
Apocalypse Arm - An arm engineered for sheer destructive force. (May deal 9999 damage) ~0 Attack~
Frog
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Bronze Sword - A simple sword wrought from bronze. ~6 Attack~
Iron Sword - A standard iron military sword. ~10 Attack~
Masamune - A legendary sword of antiquity. ~75 Attack~
Radiant Blade - A sword that gleams with a hallowed light. ~90 Attack~
Smiter's Blade - A sword forged to slay foul creatres. (1.5x damage to magical beings) ~105 Attack~
Rune Blade - A blade etched with ensorcelled runes. (Magic +4) ~120 Attack~
Brave Sword - A blade that shares its wielder's courage. ~135 Attack~
Masamune - A legendary blade awoken by virtue. ~200 Attack~
Demonslayer - A sword forged to hunt fell creatures. (2x damage to magical beings) ~120 Attack~
Dinobade - A sword of prehistoric make. (Strength +5) ~160 Attack~
Ayla
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Fist - A fist possessing untold strength. ~0 Attack~
Fist - A fist possessing untold strength. ~0 Attack~
Iron Fist - Knuckles capable of pulverizing stone. (Inflicts Confuse) ~0 Attack~
Bronze Fist - Knuckles capable of pulverizing anything. (9999 damage for critical hits) ~0 Attack~
Magus
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Moonfall Scythe - A scythe wielded by dwellers of darkness. ~120 Attack~
Headman's Scythe - A scythe made to sever life's string. ~135 Attack~
Hadean Sickle - A weapon of underworld design. ~150 Attack~
Doom Scythe - A scythe that fills foes with dread. (Damage boost when allies KO'd) ~160 Attack~
Judgement Scythe - A scythe that renders but one judgement: guilty. (Inflicts Stop) ~155 Attack~
Dreamreaper - A scythe that harvest souls. (4x damage for critical hits) ~180 Attack~
Armors
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Male
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Bronze Armor - Light armor crafted of bronze. ~16 Defense~
Dark Mail - A suit of mail enchanted by dark magic. (Magic Defense +5) ~45 Defense~
Radiant Plate - Armor that shines with divine light. ~64 Defense~
Nova Armor - Sacred armor vested with stellar power. (Status immunity) ~82 Defense~
Moonbeam Armor - Armor forged by the light of the moon. (Magic Defense +10) ~85 Defense~
Dragon Armor - Resilient armor made of wyrmscale plates. (Strength +10) ~83 Defense~
Regal Plate - Armor crafted for warriors proven in battle. (Stamina +10 Magic Defense +10) ~88 Defense~
Female
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Maiden's Suit - Protective wear for women. ~18 Defense~
Mist Robe - A robe that produces mysterious mist. ~54 Defense~
Luminous Robe - A robe enchanted with divine magic. (Magic defense +5) ~63 Defense~
Zodiac Cape - A cape ornamented with constellations. (Magic Defense +10) ~80 Defense~
Prismatic Dress - A dress that glitters in myriad colors. (Auto-Barrier) ~99 Defense~
Reptite Dress - A dress once worn by a reptite princess. (Magic +10) ~82 Defense~
Regal Gown - A beautiful ivory-colored gown. (Auto-Protect Auto-Barrier) ~90 Defense~
Both
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Hide Tunic - A tunic sewn from lightweight hides. ~5 Defense~
Padded Vest - A durable training vest. ~10 Defense~
Iron Suit - Heavy armor crafted of iron. ~25 Defense~
Titanium Vest - A light, strong titanium vest. ~32 Defense~
Golden Suit - A suit of glorious gilded armor. ~39 Defense~
Ruby Vest - A vest studded with rubies. (Halves Fire -Fire Symbol-) ~45 Defense~
Mesozoic Mail - Primitive armor made from dinosaur bones. ~52 Defense~
Platinum Vest - An extremely tough platinum vest. ~71 Defense~
Aeonian Suit - A battle suit of exceptional quality. ~75 Defense~
Ruby Armor - A suit of brilliant crimson armor. (Reduces Fire -Fire Symbol- damage to 20%) ~78 Defense~
White Plate - Magical armor anointed by light. (Absorbs Light -Light Symbol-) ~70 Defense~
Black Plate - Magical armor anointed by shadow. (Absorbs Shadow -Shadow Symbol-) ~70 Defense~
Blue Plate - Magical armor anointed by water. (Absorbs Water -Water Symbol-) ~70 Defense~
Red Plate - Magical armor anointed by fire. (Absorbs Fire -Fire Symbol-) ~70 Defense~
White Vest - A fine vest steeped in light energy. (Absorbs 50% of Light -Light Symbol-) ~45 Defense~
Black Vest - A fine vest steeped in shadow energy. (Absorbs 50% of Shadow -Shadow-) ~45 Defense~
Blue Vest - A fine vest steeped in water energy. (Absorbs 50% of Water -Water Symbol-) ~45 Defense~
Red Vest - A fine vest steeped in fire energy. (Absorbs 50% of Fire -Fire Symbol-) ~45 Defense~
Saurian Leathers - (Strength +3 Speed +3) ~88 Defense~
Magus
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Raven Armor - Armor empowered through dark rituals. ~76 Defense~
Gloom Cape - A cape that evokes feelings of despair. ~84 Defense~
Shadowplume Robe - A feathered robe fit for an underworld king. (Magic Defense +20 Auto-Barrier) ~90 Defense~
Lucca
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Taban's Vest - A fire-resistant vest sewn by Taban. (Halves Fire -Fire Symbol- Speed +2) ~33 Defense~
Taban's Suit - A tough armored suit made by Taban. (Halves Fire -Fire Symbol- Speed +3) ~79 Defense~
Elemental Aegist - Armor steeped in elemental energies (Elemental immunity) ~92 Defense~
Helmets
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Male
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Golden Helm - A luxurious solid gold helm. ~18 Defense~
Radiant Helm - A helm that shines with heavenly light. ~25 Defense~
Dark Helm - A demonic helm infused with dark power. (Halves Shadow -Shadow Symbol-) ~35 Defense~
Dragonhead - A helm crafted from the skull of a great wyrm. (Strength +5) ~36 Defense~
Master's Crown - A ceremonial crown awarded to battle veterans. (Damage boost Status immunity) ~40 Defense~
Female
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Porrean Beret - A traditional beret of Porre. ~17 Defense~
Reptite Tiara - A tiara once worn by a reptite princess. (Magic +5) ~35 Defense~
Angel's Tiara - A tiara that grants divine protection. (Auto-Haste Status immunity) ~36 Defense~
Both
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Hide Cap - A lightweight leather cap. ~3 Defense~
Bronze Helm - A cast bronze helm. ~8 Defense~
Iron Helm - A helm of hammered iron. ~14 Defense~
Stone Helm - A heavy helm carved from a single stone. ~20 Defense~
Triceratopper - A stout helm adorned with dinosaur horns. ~23 Defense~
Platinum Helm - A sleek helm of worked platinum. ~29 Defense~
Aeonian Helm - A multipurpose helm of superior make. ~33 Defense~
Prismatic Helm - A helm that gleams like a rainbow. (Magic Defense +9 Status immunity) ~40 Defense~
Guardian Helm - A helm designed with protection in mind. (Auto-Protect) ~38 Defense~
Clarity Cap - A hat that heightens the wearer's senses. (Prevents Confuse) ~30 Defense~
Memory Cap - A hat that guards the wearer's memories. (Prevents Lock) ~30 Defense~
Time Hat - A hat that stabilizes the flow of time. (Prevents Stop and Slow) ~30 Defense~
Vigilant's Hat - A hat imbued with divine protection. (Status immunity) ~36 Defense~
Ozzie Pants - Disgusting pants that reek of Ozzie. (???) ~45 Defense~
Haste Helm - A helm that grants the wearer swiftness. (Auto-Haste) ~35 Defense~
Rainbow Helm - A rare helm that emits a prismatic glow. (Halves Light -Light Symbol-) ~35 Defense~
Mermaid Helm - A helm said to house a mermaid's power. (Halves Water -Water Symbol-) ~35 Defense~
Magus
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Doom Helm - A helm made in the image of Death himself. ~29 Defense~
Gloom Helm - A helm made to evoke despair in enemies. (Status immunity) ~42 Defense~
Lucca
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Taban's Helm - A magic-resistant helm crafted by Taban. (Magic Defense +10) ~24 Defense~
Accessories
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Headband - A simple cloth headband. (Speed +1)
Ribbon - A charming hair ribbon. (Accuracy +2)
Power Glove - A glove that strengthends the wearer. (Strength +2)
Guardian Bangle - A protective charm. (Stamina +2)
Magic Scarf - An enchanted scarf. (Magic +2)
Speed Ring - A ring that quickens the body's movement. (Speed +3)
Acuity Ring - A ring that enhances attack precision. (Accuracy +10)
Power Ring - A ring that boosts its wearer's strength. (Strength +6)
Magic Ring - A ring that amplifies the wearer's magic. (Magic +6)
Barrier Ring - A ring that erects a magical barrier. (Magic Defense +10)
Silver Earring - An earring that grants vigor. (Max HP +25%)
Golden Earring - An earring that grants great vigor. (Max HP +50%)
Silver Stud - An earring that grants intellect. (50% MP costs)
Golden Stud - An earring that grants great intellect. (25% MP costs)
Sight Scope - A scope that analyzes enemy attributes. (Reveals enemy HP)
Rage Band - An armband that fans the wearer's rage. (Counter Rate: 50%)
Wrath Band - An armband that greatly amplifies anger. (Counter Rate: 80%)
Third Eye - A third eye that helps avoid attacks. (Doubles Evasion)
Workman's Wallet - A wallet that turns effort into affluence. (Turns EXP into G)
Green Dream - An orb containing pure life essence. (Auto-Raise (one time only))
Berserker Ring - A dangerous ring that enrages the wearer. (Auto-Berserk Auto-Protect)
Power Scarf - A scarf that surges with power. (Strength +4)
Speed Belt - A blet that hastens the wearer. (Speed +2)
Muscle Ring - A ring that adds muscle tone. (Stamina +6)
Flea Bustier - Flea's favorite bustier. (Magic Defense +12)
Magic Crest - An emblem that boosts magical strength. (Magic +5 Magic Defense +5)
Power Crest - An emblem that boosts physical strength. (Strength +10 Stamina +10)
Accessory - Nothing, possibly a dummied item or unused...but everyone can use it.
Seraph Song - An item that produces soft, sweet music. (Nothing listed =/)
Sunglasses - Magical glasses that grant unrivaled power. (Damage boost)
Prism Spectacles - Prismatic glasses that grant true power. (Major dmg, boost)
Dragon's Tear - An earring made from a great wyrm's teardrop. (Critical Rate -Up Arrow)
Nu Arcana - A scroll that sheds light on nu mysteries. (Sets enemy HP to 1)
Crono
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Uranian Mirror - A mirror bearing the image of a light deity. (Counter rate: 25% for non-Light Symbol)
Lucca
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Promethean Mirror - A mirror bearing the image of a fire deity. (Counter rate: 25% for non-Fire Symbol)
Frog
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Hero's Badge - A medal carried by true heroes. (Masamune crit. % -Up Arrow-)
Champion's Badge - A medal awarded to champions of the realm. (Masamune Crit. % -Up Arrow- Halves MP costs)
Pontic Mirror - A mirror bearing the image of a water deity. (Counter rate: 25% for non-Water Symbol) - Frog/Marle Only
Ayla
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Alluring Top - A revealing article that entrances foes. (Charm rate -Up Arrow-
Valor Crest - An emblem that boosts combat abilities. (Critical Rate -Up Arrow- Counter rate: 50%)
Aresian Mirror - A mirror bearing the image of a warrior deity. (Counter Rate: 25% for non-physical) - Robo/Ayla Only
Magus
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Schala's Amulet - An amulet received from Schala. (Status immunity)
Hadean Mirror - A mirror bearing the image of a shadow deity. (Counter Rate: 25% for non-Shadow Symbol)
Rocks (Gemstones)
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Black Gemstone - A polished black gemstone. (Enable use of Eternal Darkness) - Marle, Lucca, Magus
Blue Gemstone - A brilliant blue gemstone. (Enables use of Omega Flare) - Lucca, Robo, Magus
Silver Gemstone - A brillaint silver gemstone. (Enables use of Spin Strike) - Frog, Ayla, Robo
White Gemstone - A brilliant while gemstone. (Enable use of Poyozo Dance) - Marle, Lucca, Ayla
Golden Gemstone - A brilliant golden gemstone. (Enable use of Master Mune) - Marle, Frog, Robo
It's kind of sloppy but this is what I have. There were about maybe...35 items cut because they were "Dummy"
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Which one of Crono's swords is the Rainbow?
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It's labeled Rainbow. I'm near the end of the weapons. I'm just going to resort the entire list to be what matches with what. It's really space taking like the way it is now.
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Two new items added. I've also got a guide for the Lost Sanctum. I'm working on the next site update, which is coming along well.
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Updated the list of items. All weapons, consumable items, key items, and other are labeled. Along with the Weapon's Attack, Description, and their status effects.
Edit: Armors are updated with same thing as weapons. They are labeled by gender and by singles.
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You obtain Crono's Dreamseeker once you defeat the Dream Devourer.
Do we have a list of all info in the bestiary, or do we want one? Looks like the file Dark Serge and shinrin created has a 100% filled bestiary.
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You obtain Crono's Dreamseeker once you defeat the Dream Devourer.
Do we have a list of all info in the bestiary, or do we want one? Looks like the file Dark Serge and shinrin created has a 100% filled bestiary.
I'm making a bestairy, but it's gonna take some time.
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For the item list and bestiary, it might be a nice idea to add where you find the items and monsters. It's gonna be some more work, but that makes it easier for people who are lost with it
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There's additional weapon/armor descriptions when they add some special effect when you just select them to be equipped like the Wondershot's says, "Play time determines damage."
I also wonder...is it even possible to determine that? Does the random damage have something to do with the game clock then??
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Where are these items found?
Dried Mushroom
Millennia Fruit
Venus Bow
Spellslginer
Apocalypse Arm
Spellslginer - Is that the correct spelling?
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Venus Bow is Lost Sanctum 65,000,000,000 BC I believe
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Spellslinger - Dimensional Vortex 1000 AD - Lava Area
Apocalypse Arm - Dimensional Vortex 2300 AD - Lost Sanctum Forest Area inside Dimensional Vortex
this 2 could only be obtained when you are in the Nu is Hungry Event in Lost Sanctum 600 AD
Dried Mushroom - Lost Sanctum Prehistory, Exile (Black Reptite) in the mountain path (i'll post a screen tomorrow of the spot where you need to fight it)
Millenia Fruit - Lost Sanctum Prehistory, Slate Imp in the forest (i'll post a screen tomorrow of the spot where you need to fight it)
there will be a short event after you fight this guys and you will get the item, it is not dropped in the battle
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Ugh, my brain hurts. :cry: But at least I can look to CTDS.
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Damn, you are totally on the ball. I didn't expect to get an answer until after I went to bed. Thanks a lot.
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Damn, you are totally on the ball. I didn't expect to get an answer until after I went to bed. Thanks a lot.
Talking to me? :? <(???)
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Kamiyu, I guess. Two last things:
In what dungeon areas are the Dreamreaper and Shadowplume Robe found?
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You get the Dreamreaper after beating Dream Devourer 1st time... Shadowplume Robe was that lava cave in the 1000 AD vortex I think... But I can't say that one for sure, sorry
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Item List updated with helmets.
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Actually, as was mentioned earlier in the topic, the Dreamreaper is found in the 1000 AD Dimensional Vortex. The ShadowPlume robe is found in the 12 000 BC one. And the Venus Bow is also found in a Dimensional Vortex (I am almost sure it is also in the 12 000 BC one), but the area is the same as the cave in the Lost Sanctum area.
I also have a question: Could someone tell me where to find the lumicite shard? I think it's the only thing I'm missing.
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Oh Dreamreaper the scythe... Jeez I keep messing those names up. Yeah it's 1000 AD vortex
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Actually, as was mentioned earlier in the topic, the Dreamreaper is found in the 1000 AD Dimensional Vortex. The ShadowPlume robe is found in the 12 000 BC one. And the Venus Bow is also found in a Dimensional Vortex (I am almost sure it is also in the 12 000 BC one), but the area is the same as the cave in the Lost Sanctum area.
I also have a question: Could someone tell me where to find the lumicite shard? I think it's the only thing I'm missing.
Go to the second Emerald Mountain screen in 600 A.D., and keep entering and exiting. Towards the top, a Wonder Rock should eventually appear. Be ready to Charm.
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What is it used for anyway?
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I don't have the original Japanese with me, but can anyone go ahead and compare Dream Devourer to Cross's Time Devourer? If they're homogenous, then yech, someone's going to pay in the US localization team.
Japanese for "Time Devourer" from Chrono Cross:
時喰い
The first Kanji means "Time".
The second one means "to eat" but in a vulgar sense that only men would use (or women, like Kid, who talk like men). It can also mean "to consume time or resources", which I thought was a fitting definition. ;) Anyway, "devour" is a decent translation of this verb.
The last character turns the second one from a verb into a noun. So I guess it could go from "to devour" to "devourer".
Japanese for "Dream Devourer" from Chrono Trigger DS:
夢喰い
The first one means "Dream".
The last two are the same ("devourer").
So yeah, they're different, but obviously related.
Dreams are almost as important a theme in both games as Time is.
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I don't have the original Japanese with me, but can anyone go ahead and compare Dream Devourer to Cross's Time Devourer? If they're homogenous, then yech, someone's going to pay in the US localization team.
Japanese for "Time Devourer" from Chrono Cross:
時喰い
The first Kanji means "Time".
The second one means "to eat" but in a vulgar sense that only men would use (or women, like Kid, who talk like men). It can also mean "to consume time or resources", which I thought was a fitting definition. ;) Anyway, "devour" is a decent translation of this verb.
The last character turns the second one from a verb into a noun. So I guess it could go from "to devour" to "devourer".
Japanese for "Dream Devourer" from Chrono Trigger DS:
夢喰い
The first one means "Dream".
The last two are the same ("devourer").
So yeah, they're different, but obviously related.
Dreams are almost as important a theme in both games as Time is.
That supports the theory that the Dream Devourer is the Time Devourer in the early stages of its evolution. Said theory is also supported by the presence of Schala and the fact that she mentions Lavos swallowing her awareness. Further support comes from the fact that the Dream Devourer resembles Lavos himself a bit.
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All items are labeled.
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Actually, as was mentioned earlier in the topic, the Dreamreaper is found in the 1000 AD Dimensional Vortex. The ShadowPlume robe is found in the 12 000 BC one. And the Venus Bow is also found in a Dimensional Vortex (I am almost sure it is also in the 12 000 BC one), but the area is the same as the cave in the Lost Sanctum area.
I also have a question: Could someone tell me where to find the lumicite shard? I think it's the only thing I'm missing.
Go to the second Emerald Mountain screen in 600 A.D., and keep entering and exiting. Towards the top, a Wonder Rock should eventually appear. Be ready to Charm.
Thanks. I had already found a Wonder Rock in the 12 000 BC Dimensional Vortex, but didn't know they dropped/could be charmed for a lumicite. I went there again (I tried for a bit at the Emerald Mountain but it just didn't want to show up :() and found it on the second try.
And Dark Serge, it's used to get Elemental Aegis, an armor for Lucca that apparently nullifies elemental damage. You need to give it to a Reptite in the Lost Sanctum in 600 AD.
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Actually, as was mentioned earlier in the topic, the Dreamreaper is found in the 1000 AD Dimensional Vortex. The ShadowPlume robe is found in the 12 000 BC one. And the Venus Bow is also found in a Dimensional Vortex (I am almost sure it is also in the 12 000 BC one), but the area is the same as the cave in the Lost Sanctum area.
I also have a question: Could someone tell me where to find the lumicite shard? I think it's the only thing I'm missing.
Go to the second Emerald Mountain screen in 600 A.D., and keep entering and exiting. Towards the top, a Wonder Rock should eventually appear. Be ready to Charm.
Thanks. I had already found a Wonder Rock in the 12 000 BC Dimensional Vortex, but didn't know they dropped/could be charmed for a lumicite. I went there again (I tried for a bit at the Emerald Mountain but it just didn't want to show up :() and found it on the second try.
And Dark Serge, it's used to get Elemental Aegis, an armor for Lucca that apparently nullifies elemental damage. You need to give it to a Reptite in the Lost Sanctum in 600 AD.
Those bastards! Why only Lucca?
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I have no idea why it's Lucca only, but I prefer to give her an Angel's Tiara and Regal Gown anyway: Auto-Haste, Auto-Protect, Auto-Barrier AND Status Immunity. What's not to like? :)
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I have no idea why it's Lucca only, but I prefer to give her an Angel's Tiara and Regal Gown anyway: Auto-Haste, Auto-Protect, Auto-Barrier AND Status Immunity. What's not to like? :)
If they don't have equivalents for the rest of the party, they are so lynched.
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Well, those two items can be equipped on any of the girls (but you only get one of each in a game). Except for Magus, the guys can only get Haste and Status Immunity, or Protect and Status Immunity, as there are no new items that give them those traits.
You have the ShadowPlume robe for Magus that gives Auto-Barrier, so you could have him get Auto-Haste and Auto-Barrier, or Status Immunity and Auto-Barrier in addition the the options available to the others.
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Can someone just make a list of all the best all-round equipment available for all characters please? I can't decide what to use.
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Can someone just make a list of all the best all-round equipment available for all characters please? I can't decide what to use.
Seconded. Would really help in the long run.
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Can someone just make a list of all the best all-round equipment available for all characters please? I can't decide what to use.
Seconded. Would really help in the long run.
Totally, I have one for the SNES version, but now it needs an upgrade.
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Sux, don't it Sarge?
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Well, my personal opinion is that Haste Helms and Nova Armors are still the best for the guys (although you might wish to equip stuff that boosts Magic Defense if they haven't maxed it yet), and you can even get 3 Haste Helms per playthrough now (as opposed to only 2 in the SNES version).
The best for the girls has to be the Angel Tiara and the Regal Gown, as I've mentioned previously (but you only get one per playthrough unfortunately).
There are still some items that might be useful, like the Master's Crown for males, which grants Status Immunity and gives a boost similar to the Sunshades (and it stacks with Prism Spectacles :)), the Saurian Leathers, a decent armor that also gives +3 speed and +3 strength, the Elemental Aegis seems like a nice armor for Lucca, and the ShadowPlume Robe gives Magus Auto-Barrier (and I think it's his best armor defense wise). This are the ones I remember right now, I might make a more decent comparison tomorrow morning, but I'm going to sleep now.
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The only character whose ideal equipment I remember is...
CRONO
Rainbow
Prism Helm
Moon Armor
FrenzyBand
Can't remember how high I got his LV, or his best stats before I lost my NewGame+ series.
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The only character whose ideal equipment I remember is...
CRONO
Rainbow
Prism Helm
Moon Armor
FrenzyBand
Can't remember how high I got his LV, or his best stats before I lost my NewGame+ series.
I gave him a Gold Stud instead. But now, when his magic defense gets at **, I'll give him the Regal Plate. With the Dreamseeker, he will not need the extra strength of the Dragon Armor.
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The only character whose ideal equipment I remember is...
CRONO
Rainbow
Prism Helm
Moon Armor
FrenzyBand
Can't remember how high I got his LV, or his best stats before I lost my NewGame+ series.
I gave him a Gold Stud instead. But now, when his magic defense gets at **, I'll give him the Regal Plate. With the Dreamseeker, he will not need the extra strength of the Dragon Armor.
Everyone has their tastes. I loved the FrenzyBand's effect, combined with the Rainbow's Critical Rate. Can you say, PWNED? (JK)
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The only character whose ideal equipment I remember is...
CRONO
Rainbow
Prism Helm
Moon Armor
FrenzyBand
Can't remember how high I got his LV, or his best stats before I lost my NewGame+ series.
I gave him a Gold Stud instead. But now, when his magic defense gets at **, I'll give him the Regal Plate. With the Dreamseeker, he will not need the extra strength of the Dragon Armor.
Everyone has their tastes. I loved the FrenzyBand's effect, combined with the Rainbow's Critical Rate. Can you say, PWNED? (JK)
Well, the Gold Stud was just to not worry that much of MP to cast Luminaire, but now with the Dreamseeker, the Wrath (Frenzy) Band now sounds like the best choice. For physical attacking, that is.
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The only character whose ideal equipment I remember is...
CRONO
Rainbow
Prism Helm
Moon Armor
FrenzyBand
Can't remember how high I got his LV, or his best stats before I lost my NewGame+ series.
I gave him a Gold Stud instead. But now, when his magic defense gets at **, I'll give him the Regal Plate. With the Dreamseeker, he will not need the extra strength of the Dragon Armor.
Everyone has their tastes. I loved the FrenzyBand's effect, combined with the Rainbow's Critical Rate. Can you say, PWNED? (JK)
Well, the Gold Stud was just to not worry that much of MP to cast Luminaire, but now with the Dreamseeker, the Wrath (Frenzy) Band now sounds like the best choice. For physical attacking, that is.
I remember having Crono so powerful that you could use Confuse once and a regular attack (I don't think it mattered if it was Critical or not) to kill the left Lavos Core bit (the one who is healed by magic). That was kickass.
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just here to post the Fruit and the Mushroom Locations
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=items2jv5.jpg
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just here to post the Fruit and the Mushroom Locations
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=items2jv5.jpg
...wut? :?
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He's contributing as requested. Unusual lately in this thread, isn't it?
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I decided to use the Treasure Atlas function to show the location of the new equipment in the Dimensional Vortex, which I've attached to the post. Curiously there are two areas in the Dimensional Vortex for 2 300 AD that I don't remember seeing, and there was a Master Crown in one of them.
And for me Crono's ideal equipment was Rainbow, Haste Helm, Nova Armor, Golden Stud. The defense given by these items is lower than Prism Helm and Moon Armor, but I decided Auto-Haste was more useful (it's only 8 less points of defense). If you liked that setup, you'll probably want a Master's Crown and Regal Plate for him. The Master's Crown gives the same defense as the Prism Helm and also gives Status Immunity like the Prism Helm, but gives a boost similar to the Sunglasses in addition. It doesn't give Magic Defense but you probably won't need it since the Regal Plate gives +10.
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If you liked that setup, you'll probably want a Master's Crown and Regal Plate for him. The Master's Crown gives the same defense as the Prism Helm and also gives Status Immunity like the Prism Helm, but gives a boost similar to the Sunglasses in addition. It doesn't give Magic Defense but you probably won't need it since the Regal Plate gives +10.
Hmm... I'll keep that in mind.
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Here are the FLAC rips, properly tagged, of the extra promo CD.
EDIT: Link removed, I'll send them directly, instead.
There are two tracks, and both are new (not rehashes of the previous orchestrations, if I'm not mistaken.)
1.) クロノ・トリガー ～Orchestra Version～
2.) クロノ・トリガーメドレー ～Orchestra Version～
The tracks came named in Japanese, btw.
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Chrono Compendium... 乙...
8. Commercial
Someone can translate this DS commercial (what's Magus saying?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=695wPKH3ihk
My Japanese isn't perfect, but this is what I came up with:
{
Lucca: Whoa, Crono! It's been a long time, hasn't it!
Frog: Nearly 13 years... You all haven't changed a bit.
Ayla: Huh? What's that white thing? Can Ayla eat it?
Robo: D... S...?
Marle: Hey, it's completely white! Let's go, Crono!
(Coming to the DS, that time-travelling adventure, Chrono Trigger.)
Magus: ... Aren't you forgetting someone?
}
... Marle's excited because it matches her clothes?
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Chrono Compendium... 乙...
8. Commercial
Someone can translate this DS commercial (what's Magus saying?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=695wPKH3ihk
My Japanese isn't perfect, but this is what I came up with:
{
Lucca: Whoa, Crono! It's been a long time, hasn't it!
Frog: Nearly 13 years... You all haven't changed a bit.
Ayla: Huh? What's that white thing? Can Ayla eat it?
Robo: D... S...?
Marle: Hey, it's completely white! Let's go, Crono!
(Coming to the DS, that time-travelling adventure, Chrono Trigger.)
Magus: ... Aren't you forgetting someone?
}
... Marle's excited because it matches her clothes?
Nice.
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I can make scans of the US version of the promo CD if that's still needed.
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Shadow D. Darkman, be careful with the signal to noise ratio. Unless you have something to contribute towards these "Needed Items," you really have no reason to make a reply every two posts down the thread.
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Look, Shadow we want you to become a prominent member, you obviously love the game. But before you post a response, you should put some more substance into it, post something meaningful, not just "nice". Also, watch the posting habits of everyone else around here. Individuality is one thing, but it doesn't mean to be obnoxious.
Gentlemen if you will gaze upon the DS guide thread you will find my stage records for the dimensional vortices, and a more in-depth look at the 2300 Vortex. This lists the maze and riddle solutions, as well as enemy info and strategies.
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Zeality and co. - I am at your disposal
Is there anything else that needs to be done? (or should I wait until a site update with things that are complete)
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...i have a question about Emerald Mountain. i hope you don't mind if i post it here. :(
I already finished all the tasks the Reptites send me to do it...but there is this entrance at the top of Emerald Mountain(65.000.000 BC) that is inaccesible, it is there but i can't access to it because there is no bridge.
In the Middle Ages this entrance is conected to the Great Bridge. Is it possible to go there in the Prehistory?
Thanks in advance :D
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I have completed the bestiary for Chrono Trigger DS
http://geocities.com/shinrinwinterhart/CTDSbestiary.txt
I put it on my old Geocities account so it'll be up 24/7
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...i have a question about Emerald Mountain. i hope you don't mind if i post it here. :(
I already finished all the tasks the Reptites send me to do it...but there is this entrance at the top of Emerald Mountain(65.000.000 BC) that is inaccesible, it is there but i can't access to it because there is no bridge.
In the Middle Ages this entrance is conected to the Great Bridge. Is it possible to go there in the Prehistory?
Thanks in advance :D
It is not accessable in 6500 0000 BC.
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http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=6392.15 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=6392.15)
Some new weapons' critical rate.
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I'm going with Magus22 on this one, I'm very bored so please, PLEASE ask me to do something with CTDS. Once I find a Capturing device, I may do a Playthrough...
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Chrono Compendium... 乙...
8. Commercial
Someone can translate this DS commercial (what's Magus saying?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=695wPKH3ihk
My Japanese isn't perfect, but this is what I came up with:
{
Lucca: Whoa, Crono! It's been a long time, hasn't it!
Frog: Nearly 13 years... You all haven't changed a bit.
Ayla: Huh? What's that white thing? Can Ayla eat it?
Robo: D... S...?
Marle: Hey, it's completely white! Let's go, Crono!
(Coming to the DS, that time-travelling adventure, Chrono Trigger.)
Magus: ... Aren't you forgetting someone?
}
... Marle's excited because it matches her clothes?
Alllllmost perfect, except for Marle's part. She says 面白そう/omoshirosou which translates into..."looks interesting".
Marle: Wow, that looks interesting! Let's try going in, Crono!
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http://omoteura.com/chrono_trigger/index.php?%A5%C0%A5%F3%A5%B8%A5%E7%A5%F3%A5%C7%A1%BC%A5%BF%A1%A6%A5%A2%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C9%A1%BC%A5%E0%C3%CF%B2%BC (http://omoteura.com/chrono_trigger/index.php?%A5%C0%A5%F3%A5%B8%A5%E7%A5%F3%A5%C7%A1%BC%A5%BF%A1%A6%A5%A2%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C9%A1%BC%A5%E0%C3%CF%B2%BC)
Just, wow.
I'm amazed by those maps.