Chrono Compendium
Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => Polling => Topic started by: Romana on November 21, 2008, 10:59:11 pm
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I'm aware Cross is still canon, yes, but we haven't had several loose ends with the Trigger cast tied up yet, namely what happened to Crono and Marle.
As for an entirely new setting, that's mainly what Kato set out to achieve with Cross, bringing new characters and stories into the fold.
So, my question is this: Which would you rather see next? A new Chrono game or a game that wraps up Trigger once and for all?
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Don't get me wrong, I like Crono and Marle and all, but I just think it's all about meeting new groups of kids who have their "moment of friends and memories" IE: forming their party and kicking ass, then sadly saying goodbye at the end. (Trigger was a little subtle about this happening, Cross telegraphed it across the game's face.) If we do bring back old Chrono Characters, they should have their own independent stories. Take Ayla for example. A game about some particular adventure in Prehistoric times could just be ripe for the picking. It could even be a light hearted game, as long as it isn't to be considered "the next Chrono".
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I don't see why they couldn't do both again...but then again, I personally think we know enough of what happened...knowing more would make certain things concrete, but tbh, I'm not sure I want to know everything that way...Sometimes the best parts of a story are those the reader finds out for themselves...So I'd be all for an entirely new setting, new characters (a tight, well-developed cast) & new boss. Since CT I had always thought the series would travel into space...The one loose end I always wanted to see was Lavos' origin...
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I vote both. The CT follow-up can take place between CT and CC or after CC, or even be AU, like RD. Besides, We already did the "New Story" thing with Chr(o)no Crusade.
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A whole new game would be awesome, but honestly they could easily take down two birds with one stone and tie up CT's loose ends in a new game as well.
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Besides, We already did the "New Story" thing with Chr(o)no Crusade.
Uh, that has nothing to do with the Chrono series...>_>
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I think it would be cool if they did something sort of like how CC was to CT. Where the characters and story are different but it has several connections to the other games.
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I say there should be a Chrono Trigger sequel. No references to Cross, just a new adventure. With the original crew. Maybe someone new... It's like when you watch a good movie and don't want it to end...
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Besides, We already did the "New Story" thing with Chr(o)no Crusade.
LOL, oh young Padawan, you have much to learn.
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Besides, We already did the "New Story" thing with Chr(o)no Crusade.
LOL, oh young Padawan, you have much to learn.
About the Chrono series? If so, no shit. That's why I came here so many months ago. :)
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I say there should be a Chrono Trigger sequel. No references to Cross, just a new adventure. With the original crew. Maybe someone new... It's like when you watch a good movie and don't want it to end...
Yeah, and we all know movie sequels always wind up good...waitaminute...! That's the opposite of what's true! >_>
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Besides, We already did the "New Story" thing with Chr(o)no Crusade.
LOL, oh young Padawan, you have much to learn.
About the Chrono series? If so, no shit. That's why I came here so many months ago. :)
While I admire you're love for the Chrono, Chrono Cusade has absolutely nothing to do with our beloved game series. (But is still completely great in itself.)
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Remake Chrono Cross explaining what happened with new scenes etc etc...then go on with the game. Probably the quickest choice if they did remake.
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Can I just say I would almost prefer a FINISHED fan game?
Crimson Echoes, where are yoooooooooou...?!?!
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I say there should be a Chrono Trigger sequel. No references to Cross, just a new adventure. With the original crew. Maybe someone new... It's like when you watch a good movie and don't want it to end...
Yeah, and we all know movie sequels always wind up good...waitaminute...! That's the opposite of what's true! >_>
I think only a few sequels are good, like Secret Of NIMH 2 (b/c of the guards marching around while they're at NIMH towards the end of the movie) and Kingdom Hearts 2 (Roxas pwns all ROFL).
Remake Chrono Cross explaining what happened with new scenes etc etc...then go on with the game. Probably the quickest choice if they did remake.
Supported. I still want the Battle System changed.
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Can I just say I would almost prefer a FINISHED fan game?
Crimson Echoes, where are yoooooooooou...?!?!
I need to finish the dialogue.
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How far along are Crimson Echoes or Chrono Crisis exactly? Those two always seemed like the most promising...
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Don't answer that question! I can't wait for Crimson Echoes... Obviously, I know a little more than I should due to working on corresponding fan games (but I've kept my lips sealed on what little I know), but I think Crimson Echoes is gonna be kick ass. It seems to have a solid plot and I trust those who are working on it (especially you, Zeality, seeing as how you strive to be the best).
I don't wanna know the release date. I just wanna wake up one morning and find it there. That's how it was with Prophet's Guile... and it was AWESOME.
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Boo, just b/c you don't want to know doesn't mean the rest of us can't.
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Preemptive Strike Crimson Echoes... Interesting.
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Preemptive Strike Crimson Echoes... Interesting.
...wut? :? <(???)
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Besides, if we have a release date, and it gets pushed back, everyone will be like, "WFT?!?!" Without a release date, it helps abate some of that suspense if things don't go exactly as planned...
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Yeah, instead those people will just be like, "WTF?!?! Where is this game coming out?!?!"...>_>
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Besides, if we have a release date, and it gets pushed back, everyone will be like, "WFT?!?!" Without a release date, it helps abate some of that suspense if things don't go exactly as planned...
Ah, your logic is sound.
LoZ: Twilight Princess was like that for me. :)
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In my experience, those kinds of whiners don't need a specific reason, they'll find one...Whether it's the release date not being met or there being no release date at all...
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In my experience, those kinds of whiners don't need a specific reason, they'll find one...Whether it's the release date not being met or there being no release date at all...
Agreed, we need to FALCON PUNCH those whiners so they don't troll us ever again.
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Waking up one morning to find Crimson Echoes on the Compen'jum out of nowhere would be like Christmas morning.
Or... FINDING IT ON CHRISTMAS MORNING. Best present ever.
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Or... FINDING IT ON CHRISTMAS MORNING. Best present ever.
CTDS right off the bat for X-Mas Eve Presents. I might die and then P.S.Z. will have to haul my fat ass to where my soul goes.
Just playing, P.S.Z.! :oops: :lol:
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I also voted for bit of both. Direct sequels in RPGs are a bit awkward and don't always work.
Chrono Cross worked well as a pseudo-sequel to Chrono Trigger, but it left us with way too many questions.
The obvious thing to do would be to answer some of these questions in a new game. We don't need them in the main party, but it would be nice to see the whereabouts of Crono and crew.
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I would like to see a story that sort of tied up loose ends not just in one, but in both, so I picked a bit of both.
I could deal with new main characters, but I kind of like the idea of starting with Serge and/or Kid.
I'd like to see "Guile" replaced with MAGIL from RD, and I'd want the Trigger characters to not just make cameos but either be playable, or at least important to the story. Maybe Guile would just start to uncover his past, and roll with the amnesiac idea according to the Time's Eclipse ending of CTDS.
For example, I'd imagine Crono being a sort of like, difficult to unlock character to play, but he'd start out totally DECKED, as a symbol of his status as the original Lavos slayer. I wish I could draw, but it was along the lines of him wearing his Rainbow Specs kind of low on his nose sort of Jin-style (From samurai champloo). Instead of just wearing the sheath on his belt, he'd fight Iaito-style, like Vergil from Devil May Cry kinda, with his Dreamseeker katana. His lightning magic could possibly be replace with holy-style magic, or light-based? I don't really know.
If the main CT cast could be played, they'd need to be really strong.
I'd like to see elements get either redone or phased out... I liked magic better.
I'd like to NOT fight Lavos again as the final boss.
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How would a third Chrono game work anyway?
Chrono Trigger had time traveling
Chrono Cross had alternate dimensions
Chrono _____ has ???
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In CC you could only travel to two of the dimensions though...And anyways, Radical Dreamers didn't focus on either so I don't think it's a necessity for the series.
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How would a third Chrono game work anyway?
Chrono Trigger had time traveling
Chrono Cross had alternate dimensions
Chrono _____ has ???
How about both! ...Okay maybe not. That would just increase the confusion. Oh, and V, I just have to say that I love your avatar.
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In CC you could only travel to two of the dimensions though...And anyways, Radical Dreamers didn't focus on either so I don't think it's a necessity for the series.
Radical Dreams is kind of a spinoff though right? I think it's more acceptable in that case.
Oh, and V, I just have to say that I love your avatar.
Which one? It seems to change a lot.
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I don't know...It's not like when they made RD they went, "This isn't a sequel guys, just a spin-off"...Each game so far has started in a new timeline/dimension though, that's been consistent. Even Trigger starts out in the one with the Entity making its changes...
And, yeah, I've been doing the teaflower thing with my avy, so you'll have to be more specific.
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I don't know...It's not like when they made RD they went, "This isn't a sequel guys, just a spin-off"...Each game so far has started in a new timeline/dimension though, that's been consistent. Even Trigger starts out in the one with the Entity making its changes...
And, yeah, I've been doing the teaflower thing with my avy, so you'll have to be more specific.
I dunno, I thought RD was intended to be a side story or something. I guess I have no way of knowing what they were thinking when they made it.
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I don't see it as any more or less a side-story than Chrono Cross...They're both basically there to tie up the Schala storyline...In fact, in RD at least you get one of the original party members paling around with you...
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I don't see it as any more or less a side-story than Chrono Cross...They're both basically there to tie up the Schala storyline...In fact, in RD at least you get one of the original party members paling around with you...
I suppose. RD just kinda feels that way to me. Not exactly sure why. I guess it doesn't really matter.
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RD is just that now; a side story. When Kato first started working on it, he didn't even plan for it to be related to Chrono Trigger. He mentioned wanting to do a horror game, if I recall, but ditched that. By the time he finished it, he had tied it to the Chrono universe, but it wasn't meant to be referred to as the sequel. Kato seemed to do his damnedest to make sure that no one outside of Japan ever saw RD =P
I think possibly the next big thing in a Chrono game would be literal travel between worlds. Not dimensions, not necessarily time travel, but from one planet to another. The idea doesn't sound all that great as I'm say it, but it could happen. After all, when Lavos made his nest at Death Peak, there was several spawn. The final boss of CT and CC Lavos probably had its own mommy Lavos, that ultimately, if the party could somehow defeat the original one, they could save not just their planet, but many. I guess you could incorporate time travel too.
I donno, just me rambling...
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Kato seemed to do his damnedest to make sure that no one outside of Japan ever saw RD =P
Well, it was released on a system add-on that just wasn't available outside of Japan...After CC was made, it wouldn't really make much sense to release RD...and he said that he felt it just wasn't his best work. I don't think that changes the fact that it was a sequel though.
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I'd prefer a follow-up, myself. Being a relative newcomer to the series, (having purchased the DS game and Chrono Cross in the past few months), even though Cross has its messy points, I find it a more interesting follow-up than a full-on sequel/conclusion. The nebulous concept of Space-Time is too wide and all-encompassing to follow the events of only a few specific persons. Chrono Trigger wraps up the threads enough for most characters, and Cross ties up the few loose ends left. In fact, even though it is a great trio of games, I see no need for a direct continuation of anything in the individual stories. What I am saying is, if you do make a "sequel," perhaps focus on completely different characters and plot points. A new time. Maybe a new universe. Follow the Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy model: tie the new games together with only a the core essences intact. Drop Lavos, drop Schala, drop Crono. Keep the time travel or the parallel dimensions, but maybe introduce new physics or time-related ideas. What I'm saying is: if you go on making sequels, the series will wither up and die after a few more games. There's no way you can continue with just a few characters and more and more stories with the scale of the series's core concepts.
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While I agree with your idea mostly, MGF...There are still a few loose ends in the series left...Magus, Dalton, the specifics of the Fall of Guardia, Schala and/or Kid post-dimensional merge, and the timeline post-merge in general....
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I'd like a new game, new characters with the same original dream team working on it, but to tie up all the loose ends, it'd have to have a lot of ties to CT and CC. We could have Dalton as an antagonist. Time travel should be involved again. By traveling to the past we can witness the fall of Guardia. Perhaps even prevent this from happening depending on the games plot.
I was also thinking about the fates of Crono and co. They should show up somehow. Not right away, but through the course of the game. Maybe they're time displaced for some reason. Perhaps one of them can play the role of Gaspar, an act as your guide? I also think it makes sense for Kid to return. Perhaps she can join your party at some point. These are just a bunch of random ideas.
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What about Serge, though?
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He's stuck in Arni living out his simple fisherman's life with Leena as far as I'm concerned.
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Even though we have no idea how much of the events of Cross he still remembers, or if he goes off to find Kid?
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I'd prefer Cross's ending left ambiguous and a game focused mainly on a new cast, but the CT crew cross paths with them along the way.
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I want to know what happened to Crono and Marle desperately. I want to play through the rise of Porre.