Chrono Compendium
Bend of Time - Inactive Projects => Darkness Beyond Time - Dead Project Discussion => Fan Project News/Updates => Topic started by: Wiesty on November 11, 2008, 08:59:02 pm
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Well, The release date is not supposed to be till tomorrow, but I decided to leak it to the Compendium a night early (how elite heh?). Here it is, the left over scrapings of a 4 year plan gone sour. The project had its ups and its downs, but overall I can say that I really enjoyed working on this. I had the chance to work with a great deal of pianists of different skill levels. My only regret is that I released it this late, when the once strong Video Game Piano community has now diminished. All that aside, Here it is. I hope you enjoy listening to the tracks on the project. It took a lot of effort and time from alot of people, whom I would like to thank over and over again for their input on this. Thanks again to all who have remained hopeful of a release, today is for you. *DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT AN OCREMIX QUALITY PROJECT*
http://ctosvlive.tk
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Downloading atm, I can't wait to hear it =]
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NICE. Very loverly. Glad this finally got released...
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My God...these are beautiful. Well done, well done, well done.
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Good fucking God!
4 years ago!
At least it finally came out, unlike Duke Nukem Forever.
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Awesome shit.
Whatever happened to the crashed hard drive anyway? Did it die completely? I ask because data can still be recovered (haha I'm telling you this years late, but better late than never) even after reformats. Reformatting only sets the data avaialable to be overridden. I've used data recovery programs and seen some files on some of my HDD I haven't seen in years that survived a couple reformattings.
If you still have access to the project HDD, it may be worth a try considering it didn't die, and you haven't used the HDD extensively after the crashing.
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My goodness. Black Dream, Singing Mountain, and The Hidden Truth are so ridiculously good--every member here should really take a listen.
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The performance and arrangement of these tracks are amazing. Unfortunately, it seems the microphone used for some songs was not, which is a shame. I wonder if it's possible to clean up these tracks with some audio editors.
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I'm really impressed man. You've done the community proud. I absolutely love memories of green.
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Thank you all for all the positive feedback so far. And ya, Memories of green is my favorite as well :)
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I've gotta say man, I've been following the Chrono Compendium for some time now and I check out the links and the fan projects and all that, but this is the first time I've been inspired to comment on the forums. The piano collection that you have here is awesome! I was so stoked to download it and when I started playing the files I was blow away. They're all very well done and I just wanted to commend you for a job well done getting it all together and released. Thanks a lot man.
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Very nice, though as chronomitch said, the quality isn't very good for some of them.
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what's the general opinion of using other people's music in a fan made game? would that be frowned upon? for example, i'm not working on a game, but if i was i'd be trying to get it done quickly as possible. we're talking some kind of rpg maker where you can use mp3s and wavs; not temporal flux. this hypothetical game would be nonprofit, downloadable but unsellable. we're talking pre-existing sprites, backgrounds, etc. but new story. i could just use chrono trigger music but maybe i'd really like to use some of the covers such as the mega driver frog theme, something from the ct mixtape, and perhaps some of the higher quality recordings from ctosv as well. since all the music and everything from the game is copyright square enix anyway, would i really need permission from anyone to use the music in that situation? or would i just need to give credit to those who recorded (and in some case rearranged) said music?
very sorry if this belongs somewhere else. been playing chrono trigger since i was a wee lad and i've been loving this site but haven't had much posting experience. i would genuinely like to know what people here think about it though.
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what's the general opinion of using other people's music in a fan made game? would that be frowned upon? for example, i'm not working on a game, but if i was i'd be trying to get it done quickly as possible. we're talking some kind of rpg maker where you can use mp3s and wavs; not temporal flux. this hypothetical game would be nonprofit, downloadable but unsellable. we're talking pre-existing sprites, backgrounds, etc. but new story. i could just use chrono trigger music but maybe i'd really like to use some of the covers such as the mega driver frog theme, something from the ct mixtape, and perhaps some of the higher quality recordings from ctosv as well. since all the music and everything from the game is copyright square enix anyway, would i really need permission from anyone to use the music in that situation? or would i just need to give credit to those who recorded (and in some case rearranged) said music?
very sorry if this belongs somewhere else. been playing chrono trigger since i was a wee lad and i've been loving this site but haven't had much posting experience. i would genuinely like to know what people here think about it though.
Simple. Make a real effort to ask the author if you can use it, and respect their say.
Just because it's a derived work done without permission doesn't whitewash you of the courtesy of asking permission. It's not like the derived work's author is a giant corporation like Square Enix or a difficult-to-reach foreign composer that you can't even communicate with properly.
Now if you can't get a hold of the author, and there's nothing to imply they don't want you using it, then it might not matter so much if you decide to just use it anyway. Then if they ever come to you asking for you to remove their work, you can remove it.
Of course, by the books it's all illegal, but that's going by broken copyright laws that interfere with the advancement of culture and knowledge more than help anything. It's not even profitable for corporations to completely enforce their copyrights, so they a lot of times they don't even try.
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what's the general opinion of using other people's music in a fan made game? would that be frowned upon? for example, i'm not working on a game, but if i was i'd be trying to get it done quickly as possible. we're talking some kind of rpg maker where you can use mp3s and wavs; not temporal flux. this hypothetical game would be nonprofit, downloadable but unsellable. we're talking pre-existing sprites, backgrounds, etc. but new story. i could just use chrono trigger music but maybe i'd really like to use some of the covers such as the mega driver frog theme, something from the ct mixtape, and perhaps some of the higher quality recordings from ctosv as well. since all the music and everything from the game is copyright square enix anyway, would i really need permission from anyone to use the music in that situation? or would i just need to give credit to those who recorded (and in some case rearranged) said music?
very sorry if this belongs somewhere else. been playing chrono trigger since i was a wee lad and i've been loving this site but haven't had much posting experience. i would genuinely like to know what people here think about it though.
Simple. Make a real effort to ask the author if you can use it, and respect their say.
Just because it's a derived work done without permission doesn't whitewash you of the courtesy of asking permission. It's not like the derived work's author is a giant corporation like Square Enix or a difficult-to-reach foreign composer that you can't even communicate with properly.
Now if you can't get a hold of the author, and there's nothing to imply they don't want you using it, then it might not matter so much if you decide to just use it anyway. Then if they ever come to you asking for you to remove their work, you can remove it.
Of course, by the books it's all illegal, but that's going by broken copyright laws that interfere with the advancement of culture and knowledge more than help anything. It's not even profitable for corporations to completely enforce their copyrights, so they a lot of times they don't even try.
thanks for the reply! yeah i figured the copyright situation (legal permission, etc) would be a bit overcomplicated, so i'm not even worried about it being legal. i'm just thinking if someone were to release a finished game they'd been working on secretly without announcing anything. say said game is really fun, with a great story, but reused graphics and other people's music. would the community accept with open arms or condemn it like it's evil?
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It's pretty much common sense.
As long as you make clear acknowledgements for the stuff you used, the worst that could happen is someone gets mad that you didn't ask them permission to use their music or graphics and asks you to remove it. Nobody else will be bothered very much by it.
Now if you emphasize it as a one-man project and fail to clearly acknowledge other people for their work, then some may still be receptive, but there might be some serious community backlash once people start pointing out where the different parts came from, especially if you didn't ask permission.
But then, how clearly you acknowledge people is subjective -- not everyone will agree about it -- which is a big reason why you should ask for permission. That way, even if someone thinks you didn't acknowledge them like you should have, at least you had their permission, and so the community will be a lot more understanding.
In other words, cover your ass. It's so easy, you could have done it by now instead of talking about it.
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ok well im listening to everything at the moment and i wanna go through every song one by one and give a comment. lol. I have been listening to yasunori mitsuda's work for a very long time now and i love hearing reinterpretations and how his music can take different forms, and i absolutely love the piano because i play it. To bad i couldn't be part of the project... :(
tracks; (to lazy to write their titles.)
1. outstanding performance on such a small peice- if it would've featured a metronome or a ticking clock i think it might've been cooler, but then again it also might remove the point of the project lol- and take away from the rapid notes.
2. it sounds like it was done on a bad microphone- or so it seems.... lol This is my 2nd favorite track from chrono trigger, and the microphone actually gives it a much more cave-like feeling. and i love that feeling.
3. BEAUTIFUL INTRO. the original song itself gives the feeling of a strange nostalgia, but being on the piano with such feeling gives the song a much more different feeling. as if it is a sad person traveling to right their wrongs and find answers for questions that were never answered. Very good.
4. AH GONZALEZ! lol. just like the original song this song is like a merry go round theme at a carnival. wonderful peice and perfect manifestation.
5. it sounds cheap at first but then if you compare it to the original from the game its only like that beacuse of the type of piano playing it. it carries no "UMPH" so it sounds stranger than it should. props to the artist for being able to reconstruct the original.
6.simple lol.
7. MY FAV. SONG; its a song that gives you the feeling that your heading in the wrong direction- metaphorically and in the video game lol. The artist for this song deserves a cookie for managing to keep the same tempo throughout the entire song. EXCELLENCE in other words.
8. the organ in the catherdral played with a new twist, quirky yet not bad.
9. *relives chrono chross victory*
10. DESPISE this song with all my heart. why? lol the "happy twisted pyscho feeling" is the feeling i like to stay away from. its perfect if you managed to make my eye twitch (which it did)
11.promising a time of despair and a race with "big bro" this song can envoke many feelings at certain points in time- truely a mastepeice. kudos to th artist.
12. can say much about this one- its played with a different instrument?(not really) lol
13. bleh, such an annoying song
14. PERFECT- it sounds much better on piano.
15. its like a waltz mixed with jazz (like Treno's theme from final fantasy nine). Though a new breed of music it is still by far awesome in the way it gives of the mischeivious child feeling.
16. Like a man that is angry while brushing his teeth- even on the piano- this song stills sounds like someone should die. another annoying song.
17. ABNORMAL.
18. one of the more elegant peices from the game- the piano gives it a certain gentleness and sense of fragile woman, who's heart can be shattered by the slightest movement. beautiful peice- i can see the devotion in this peice. kudos to the artist.
19. Again the microphone sounding bad isn't a bad thing. the peice is meant to invoke your nostalgia. with the microphone the piano sounds like it was played on a black and white cartoon show and with that impression- when you remember things to this song, everything you remember comes out black and white. which in hand gives the song much more meaning. smart technique if it was on purpose or not- you just won a cookie (whoever played the song).
20. A tragic end to a much more demented feeling and back to the tragic hero. Beautiful on piano.
21. this one the quaility doesnt help the song. this is one of my favorites, and since you cant really get the clean bass keys out the song loses alot of its "urgency". though i will say to the artist- though your recording equipment sucked you tore that song up (the right way, as in perfection to the max).
22. niffy tune...
23. "A shadow in the sky in every time period! WHAT?!?!?!?!" The album sure saved one of the best songs for last. This tune not only conjures the great demons on the black omen but has a jazzy tune (thats what makes it awesome)! Very well played. The artist sure was an expert to be able to play one of the most complex songs in the game. prop-kudos-and cookies.
24. if only it was done with much better sound quaility....
All in all i say your project was a good 97% success. almost there but not quite, but hey who gives a damn? eh? its chrono trigger and it is going on my ipod! i will show the music off! ahahahaha! :lee:
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It's depressing that this was never completed. Truly a shame.
Especially on some of the tracks with lesser quality audio recording. These are all really fantastic, and it's a shame that they didn't get to shine at their fullest. The artists did amazing work here.
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I'm impressed! Awesome! :D