Chrono Compendium
Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => Polling => Topic started by: ONSLAUGHT on August 27, 2008, 02:00:56 pm
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Who is truly capable of taking on the destroyer of the apocalypse itself and why?
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Samus Aran would wipe the floor with nearly all of those guys and she's a girl. She eats energy absorbing alien races races for breakfast & space pirates for an appetizer.
The only one on that list I could say could really give her a run for her money would be Mega and even then, only X w/his cheater Hadoken move.
Also, there's no point having Chuck Norris if you already have Bruce Lee. Chuck is just a lame, white, wannabe Bruce Lee (and that's 3 strikes!).
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Samus Aran would wipe the floor with nearly all of those guys and she's a girl. She eats energy absorbing alien races races for breakfast & space pirates for an appetizer.
The only one on that list I could say could really give her a run for her money would be Mega and even then, only X w/his cheater Hadoken move.
Also, there's no point having Chuck Norris if you already have Bruce Lee. Chuck is just a lame, white, wannabe Bruce Lee (and that's 3 strikes!).
Samus...I agree. Hell she could have killed Lavos......on her own! Really think about it!
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Ice Beam+Missile barrage...That's how you get rid of those pesky aliens. ^_^
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Samus would do it, but I'm thinking either Megaman trigger, or Orlandu from Final fantasy tactics. If Megaman had the shining laser equipped, he'd beat Crono any day. And Orlandu goes without saying.
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REALLY! Samus, I was going to add her to the list but wasn't sure how many would think her and thought Megaman would come up more. OF course, they both seem to be the main votes.
Edit: Also, Megaman is a pretty big threat, if you play all the games. He's apparantly got the strength of a god but his true weakness is kinda pathetic. His emotions get in the way(gee, if X is supposed to have emotions and be the first like that, why does Megaman have them?), and he feels he doesn't want to fight(gee, also like X...)
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Any character with a personality is a worthy match.
Doesn't mean they could defeat him, but a part of a good battle is the banter. Crono sucks when it comes to witty banter.
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Very true after all Guybrush Threepwood wields the mighty Insult: “You fight like a dairy farmer."
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I would say Solid Snake, but I think Raiden to be a more suitable match, considering the Katana.
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With Luminaire, Crono is like his own Metal Gear. No amount of cardboard boxes would save Snake.
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I just realized that Cloud Strife would lose in a heartbeat.
With Luminaire, Crono is like his own Metal Gear. No amount of cardboard boxes would save Snake.
More reason for Raiden. Hell, his name literally means "Lightning".
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And Snake literally means the reptiles of the same name, yet curiously Solid Snake does not display some magical affinity to the creatures.
The meaning of a name is a poor indicator of abilities.
Considering that Raiden went through an experiment to make him like Solid Snake, methinks the original would be the better bet in this case. Sequels are seldom better than the original.
But all things considered, Crono isn't a particularly unique or powerful individual. His greatness comes from dedication, not physical might.
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Oh man, I have to think about this one.
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Isn't Snake a copy of Big Boss or something though...? Metal Gear's story is stupid confusing too, so I guess he'd fit in with the Chrono gang...>_>
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But all things considered, Crono isn't a particularly unique or powerful individual. His greatness comes from dedication, not physical might.
Yeah, but unlike other beings, Crono won't stop til he dies(he already kinda proved that please don't make him do it again)and plus, he's got all those lightning powers and skills plus Luminare which is definetly not Lightning but moreso looks like some sort of light aura. Probably because the original name of his element was Holy.
Isn't Snake a copy of Big Boss or something though...? Metal Gear's story is stupid confusing too, so I guess he'd fit in with the Chrono gang...>_>
Yes, he is. And one of my friends would make your life a nightmare if he saw that, he really loves MGS, as much as the plot doesn't make sense.
I'm surprised no one has voted Link and his power of summoning strength from the goddesses.
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The plot does so makesense. >:C
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Boss>Big Boss(Snake)>Solid/Solidus/Liquid Snake>Raiden
I liked MGS, and so did many of my friends, their much more obsessive over it then me(I haven't seen or played the 4th yet). What I'm shocked by is how many people say its confusing and full of holes, even fans of the game. I understood it fine I even guessed the ending of MGS2 correctly, but my father raised me on the Cthulhu Mythos so might just be experience.
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I haven't played the games, just heard about it and the way everyone describes it it sounds confusing.
It sounds like one of those plots you can understand by playing it, but not when someone describes it and you haven't played it.
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Alfador could take him out, though if I had to pick someone outside the Chrono series, it'd be...
Kirby! Kirby could just swallow Crono, and that'd be the end of him. He's swallowed much spikier things, so a katana shouldn't be too hard.
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Kirby! Kirby could just swallow Crono, and that'd be the end of him. He's swallowed much spikier things, so a katana shouldn't be too hard.
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Kirby's just a poor man's Mega Man. All you have to do is stay an arm's length away from him and he can't do squat. Anyone who's main source of energy is a tomato is a pansy.
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Not to mention all he'd do is humiliate him by crapping him out cause he does that with every other worthy warrior he eats. Where does it come from though?
Also, if your reasoning is for the whole eating thing, I'd stick with Pacman. Cause Pacman is a bigger eater than Yoshi and Kirby combined.
In fact I'm pretty sure Kirby is the love child of a twisted threesome between Pacman, Megaman, and the Pink Carebear.
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We keep on bringing Mega man up. Which one? There have been what, 5?
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No, there's been Mega Man, Mega Man X, Megaman.EXE & that alter ego of Omega-Xis and Geo. I'd say go with the most powerful, which would be X.
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Let's be honest... X was also the coolest. He was one bad mother faker.
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X... I dunno, its hard to be cool when you hang out with a guy with long blond hair and a boob-light. Sure, said guy is a sword toting machine of nasty infectious death, but come on... a boob-light?! It also doesn't help that X eventually turns himself into a fairy.
Randi, from SoM, might be more evenly matched with Crono. Both use swords; though while Crono could also use magic, Randi's sword was more powerful and had those fun sword tech thigns. Both travel with two friends only. Both fought giant monster thingies that wanted to destroy the world. Both probably ended up marrying princesses in a manifestation of the Han-Solo Complex. Both wear headbands, baggy clothing, and have uncommonly large and spiky hair. Crono had Gato, Randi had Niko.
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X DID turn himself into a fairy...A little too late for Zero when he finally decided to get rid of the boob lights. But wait a second... Zero put himself in that machine to purify himself and get rid of anything evil upon him... So, red was good, blond long hair was good, and apparantly that would mean his boob lights were made of pure evil?
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No, there's been Mega Man, Mega Man X, Megaman.EXE & that alter ego of Omega-Xis and Geo. I'd say go with the most powerful, which would be X.
You forgot Megaman trigger from the Legends series.
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Yeah, but he's probably one of the weakest Megamen because he isn'tany part robot. He's a human. In a wierd suit... And he also speaks monkey. But it was still a great game(Megaman 64, didn't have Playstation yet).
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You might want to play the game again; he's not human (at least not in the normal sense of the word; he isn't really a robot either).
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That's what I meant by in a wierd suit. Going for no spoilers I was.
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Have you played the second one, Onslaught? And he is not the weakest Mega man. Have you ever gotten the shining laser and fully powered it up? Not to mention this is way in the future from the X series so the technology has probably improved.
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I just thought X was the most powerful because of his nutso instant death even to bosses Hadouken...Which makes me think Ryu might be a good match as well...SHINKOUUUUU~!!
(http://moortala.tripod.com/images/ryu-bigsuper-1-perma.gif)
Which really just makes me think...Someone DBZ should probably be on this list as well...Goku or whatever other SSJ character, I guess.
And Dr. Doom since you've got Vader (a villain?) on the list as well? *shrugs*
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Face it V these People just wont admit that Dr. Doom has everyone beat.
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I just thought X was the most powerful because of his nutso instant death even to bosses Hadouken...Which makes me think Ryu might be a good match as well...SHINKOUUUUU~!!
(http://moortala.tripod.com/images/ryu-bigsuper-1-perma.gif)
Which really just makes me think...Someone DBZ should probably be on this list as well...Goku or whatever other SSJ character, I guess.
And Dr. Doom since you've got Vader (a villain?) on the list as well? *shrugs*
DBZ would just be cheating. Really I mean Chrono wouldn't stad a chance simpey because the moment things go wrong for a DBZ character some Dues Ex Machina abilty or thing turns on and they win! I mean half of the time I think they let the danger escalate for the hell of it
"hmmmmm well I could kill this enemy in like one shot, but let me hold back for awhile for the heck of it....I think some people need to die first!"
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No, it's not that they're holding back, they spend it charging their power. Seriously though, there is an actual DBZ episode where Goku is about to fight Majin Boo(or however you spell his name)and when he's charging for Super Saiyan 3 he literally(I timed it)takes 16 of the 23 minutes of the episode in a constipated position screaming for the love of god and all that is holy and the bad guys just sit there watching him. Of course, Crono might still stand a chance. Simply for the fact even after Goku did all of that and beat the crap out of Majin for a bit he still got owned. By a fat pink blob. Which brings backt o perhaps Kirby is the love child of Pacman, Megaman, and Majin Boo?
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X DID turn himself into a fairy...A little too late for Zero when he finally decided to get rid of the boob lights. But wait a second... Zero put himself in that machine to purify himself and get rid of anything evil upon him... So, red was good, blond long hair was good, and apparantly that would mean his boob lights were made of pure evil?
Pants too.
And I think that Kirby and Buu are close enough on their own. Pink, eat a lot, and gain powers after eating.
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Buu produced Kirby.
BUU IS A WOMAN OF MASS DESTRUCTION?!!!! WITH A MAN'S LOOKS AND LITTLE BOY'S VOICE?!!!!!
Alright, I think it's time to get back on topic because Kirby's birth is starting to get wierd for me. I don't wanna know what's next.
Also,after finishing watching the movie I thought of someone else... ROBOCOP.
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Are you kidding? Robocop was just a pussy android. Compared to the likes of Mega Man or Samus Aran, he's less than spit in a bucket.
Batman>Predator>Terminator>Aliens>Robocop
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Maybe if that list is going by badassness Batman might be at the top but if it's going by their skill level I dunno, I'd imagine a killer being with two tounges and lightning fast reflexes or a creature with tech more upgraded than Batman's entire arsenal would kick the crap outta him.
And for Robocop I mean maybe against Crono. His sword would be ineffective and he'd have to rely on magic. Of course he's no match for megaman and especially not for Samus! Samus, she's a freaking psychopath of power on a warpath for Metroids and Space Pirates!!!!! if she can take Kraid, hell the only thing would stand a chance against her are almighty powerful beings like Crono, Goku, Link, the gods themselves would have a rough time with her!
Samus>Goku>Megaman>Majin Buu>Batman>Predator>Terminator>Aliens>Robocop and Kirby fits in there somewhere but wherever it is it's beneath Samus, that is for sure.
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The gods? Which ones?
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The ones you'd find in the many different video games. Katamari Damacy god would get obliterated. I'm not positive although i'm pretty sure the goddesses from Zelda would have some trouble, Smash bros allows us to know she'd be a match for the supposed Super God Super Sonic. The Pokemons that are recognized as gods and goddesses.
I'm thinking this is pretty much set that the best match for Crono to face would probably be Samus.
Most people online(plus with my friends)would say Samus VS Master Chief would be an epic battle. truth of the matter is that battle would last under a minute and the Chief would get blown away by Samus.
Samus VS Crono. I believe so far I'm going with that.
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I only did the Batman, Predator, Terminator, Aliens, & Robocop list because you mentioned Robocop and all five of them have fought before. Aliens are ok, but Batman has taken out the king of the aliens multiple times: Superman. Predator's shoulder cannon is about equal to heat vision. Nothing else they have is all that advanced, they're just hunters...I'd put them on the level of someone like Lobo or something. Although I guess they have that invisibility thing...but I think they'd go hand-to-hand with Batman, where he'd win. Terminator would just be another low-rent robot. Everyone's taken out the likes of them in comics and Batman's no exception.
But, yeah, I don't know if Batman could deal with Mega or especially not Samus. And no, Master Chief couldn't even hope to take her down. She's too fast for him to run away to recharge his shield.
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Samus>Goku>Megaman>Majin Buu>Batman>Predator>Terminator>Aliens>Robocop and Kirby fits in there somewhere but wherever it is it's beneath Samus, that is for sure.
Goku is just a ripoff of the Monkey King from Journey To the West. The original could beat him, hands (and tail) down.
And come on, Batman could beat Majin Buu with little problem. Why? Because he's Batman!
http://shortpacked.com/d/20050131.html
http://shortpacked.com/d/20050218.html
Batman would just need his trusty Bat-Anti-Creepy-Japanese-Monster-That-Looks-Like-The-Stay-Puff-Marshmellow-Man Spray and problem solved.
But if we are going to start adding cyborgs into the equation, then we really have to include the three greatest combinations of man and machine ever: The Centurians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Centurions_(TV_series))
They wouldn't have a hope of defeating Crono, but they could probably clear out the lower ranks what seems to be turning into a battle royal.
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Crono VS Samus has already been established, Samus is the person to take on Crono, whatever said reason might be.
As for this battle royale this has turned into, the Centurions would be up there pretty high in the rankings. But they might have some trouble if Optimus Prime were to enter the battle...or Godzilla whom I bring up because he's also massive. Of course niether of those two could hope to be pitted against the likes of the Monkey king, Goku, Megaman, or Samus. They've all faced bigger opponents and beat them with ease. Of course then again, it IS Godzilla and Optimus prime i speak of so I'm not sure...
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Optimus...idk...he'd have to hope Hot Rod wasn't around to totally screw him over again...>_>
This is all you really needed to say about Batman, Thought...
(http://www.roflmachine.com/fun/batman.jpg)
Also, as much as I'd hate to say it, there's one other who could take everyone down pretty quick-like...
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/c/c9/Harry_potter_pissed.JPG/300px-Harry_potter_pissed.JPG)
(not with that spell, but I found that pic & had to use it)
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Bah, without some Deus Ex Machina, Potter would be out of luck. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4)
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why do I have a bad feeling that this'll all end with Mister Rogers in a blood soaked sweater...
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Batman, true.
Harry potter, yeah while he could kick the crap outta a ton of these guys, if a pipe bomb can blow him up, he wouldn't stand a chance against the more metallic characters. Which in a way makes it so people like Terminator and Robocop could beat him, all they need is explosives since they are invulnerable to them.
Mister Rogers, maybe if he had that sword but he'd have to steal it from someone since he wouldn't come in with one and after everyone knowing about his victorious video. They'd go for him right off the bat.
Another suggestion of a warrior to throw in is Ditto from Pokemon, simply because it's pretty tough to beat something that actually can become your 100% perfect duplicate in every way.
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If we are switching this to an all out Battle royal over all media I will have to say...
hmm...tough...It would have to be either Sarah Kerrigan (Queen of Blades) or Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic).
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Reed is a two-bit inventor with a lame-ass power. Even when he "wins" against Doom, it's in fact all a part of Doom's grander plan (Dr. Doom is basically the evil parallel universe version of Batman). I'd put the Cap above Mr. Fantastically Boring on the battlefield any day.
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You can't vote Cap, he can't lose. I left him out as well as Jean-Luc Picard, they not only have more deus ex Machina more then DBZ, Harry Potter, Adam West, and the cumulation of Greek theater combined. But also the fact they can't lose out of shear coolness.
But I still think that Reed and Sarah could own everyone else mentioned thus far.
~POST 1337~
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I just thought of another person who might win against Crono along with some others. The Kull warriors from Star gate SG1.
For those of you who don't know what they are, they are pretty much super soldiers. There Armour is practically impenetrable. Even to explosives. They just keep walking and walking even while constantly being shot at. Not to mention when they are told to, they keep on shooting some sort of energy weapon that breaks through almost anything. imagine having thousands of these guys at your disposal.
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If we're going to allow for an entire race/army of people then I'll put up the Borg...if you can't put up Jean-Luc, what about Locutus?
(http://ebb.org/bkuhn/random-info/locutus-of-borg.jpg)
Though I kinda lost some faith in them when they were getting their asses handed to them fairly regularly by the Voyager crew...V_V
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The Borg is just a batter powered Zerg.
Does anyone notice?
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I dunno, video game main characters nowadays have been proving themselves in these chambers of 100s of enemies that they can take armies of the invicible and weak. Crono could win, not saying he wouldn't be seriously battle scarred.
Just a thought, how well would sir Ben Tenneson hold against these guys, the one who can switch back and forth between aliens at a thought? I know he's not that good but could he stand a chance againsy ANYONE? Besides the pansies from his universe...
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I haven't turn on Cartoon Network in months.
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Yeah, well they lack that many good shows. Total Drama Island is alright since they are more like the 90s(when they had good shows)not censoring stuff, violence is shown and people puke. Yay.
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Bengay Ten could possibly stand a cance against, I dunno... Gex.
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For the sake of argument, since robots have been brought into the fray, let's bring in some of gaming's best ninjas...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/03/Strider_Hiryu.jpg/250px-Strider_Hiryu.jpg)
(http://www.whois.com/Whois-hot/poll/9-Animated_Characters/Ryu%20Hayabusa.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff33/FinalFantasyBrasil/FFVI/YoshitakaAmano/FF6ShadowInterceptor.jpg)
Maybe you can think of better. I always get sidetracked after Strider & Ryu and forget the rest.
EDIT: Also, who's the sad soul who finally broke down & voted for Clod?
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:o Wow, I expected somebody to be voted for eventually but, who's got the reasoning for Cloud? I'm interested. Really I am, one of my friends thought they could completely change my mind about that sort of thing and convince me to become a bigger FF7 fan than CT fan. It worked out the other way.
I can't find a picture but how about Hanzou from Shining Force?
And even tougher than that since it's a team like the Centurions...
(http://tv-mafia.com/series_images/Teenage%20Mutant%20Ninja%20Turtles_1987.jpg)
Oh yeah, they have just entered this all out battle royale.
As for ninjas...(this is gonna piss off so many people and I hate to admit it but he'd actually be a threat...)
(http://cubemedia.gamespy.com/cube/image/article/678/678022/naruto-clash-of-ninja-20051222094546114.jpg)
And if we're having ninjas, you need some pirates!
Probably an insult to pirates but...
(http://whatthecrap.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/piratedm2505_468x456.jpg)
And lastly, another pirate who is probably the best...
(http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cervantes-de-leon-in-soul-calibur-4.jpg)
If you include pirates, you need Cervantes.
Any others?
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If you're gonna do Shining force characters, the best ones for it would be Gunts and Domingo.
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But of course! Those guys were awesome! Also i found to be good characters were...
Balbaroy
Musashi
and Zylo.
And just for laughs, Jogurt.
(http://www.vc-forums.com/customavatars/avatar1739_2.gif)
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If you're gonna bring in the Turtles, you have to bring it oldschool comic versions where they actually kicked some serious ass, not any of that cartoon or movie crap where Leo & Raph barely even used their weapons against the enemies...
(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/TMNT%201.jpg)
As for pirates...bleh...Maybe it'll spring the eternal question, but I don't think they're a match for EITHER Robots or Ninjas...much less Crono...
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You posted twice!
And, that was the best picture I could find. I was hoping to find that exact picture but couldn't. And I know the pirates wouldn't be as good as the others but still if you're going to have those two you have to have at least one pirate.
But still I have to wonder if any of these people could beat Samus? Every character listed so far could get their asses handed to them by her and to many of them she has fought someone pretty much exactly like them and done just that.
Crono obviously is a match for her but anyone else?
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But of course! Those guys were awesome! Also i found to be good characters were...
Balbaroy
Musashi
and Zylo.
And just for laughs, Jogurt.
(http://www.vc-forums.com/customavatars/avatar1739_2.gif)
I never trained Balbaroy, but I did Amon. Unless Balbaroy is tons better than Amon, Crono could beat him easily.
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I never trained Balbaroy, but I did Amon. Unless Balbaroy is tons better than Amon, Crono could beat him easily.
Actually, Balbaroy is. I didn't think thee was a difference so 1st playthrough trained Balbaroy 2nd time around I trained Amon. Balbaroy makes things WAY freaking easier, and he is almighty compared to her... he's faster and stronger by easily x5.
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Hmm, I'll have to give him a shot next time through. When I trained Amon there was a certain period that she was really good. It's only closer to the end that she started being below average. Although I'm still partial to Domingo and Kokichi as the best flying characters.
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Trust me, train Balbaroy and while he may be less at first, once you get him going(you know past level 20 in his transformation)he'll be a real force of nature. He has more range than Amon AND he's definetly stronger. Plus I've checked all the flying characters status Domingo is VERY close, but Balbaroy when trained enough IS the best flying character in the game. Domingo is off by only a very small amount though, the fact he starts off level one later in the game and at that point balbaroy if being trained should be pretty strong.
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There truly is only one match for Crono. Some one scary. Some one who strikes fear into everyone's hearts. Some one who can kill the main character's twin sister and still make the main character not completely want to kill him. Maybe that's just because main character man is a loser. I doubt anyone's ever heard of him. Seishiro Sakurazuka. He's the avatar man with one eye completely white. He's in black-and-white.
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Goku or perhaps superman...
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The Green Lantern, I think, actually. With a barrier around him, Crono's sword is futile.
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Goku or perhaps superman...
Superman would lose to Luminaire. Superman pretty much loses to most RPG characters because along with his weakness to Kryptonite, he's got that wacky weakness to MAGIC.
The Green Lantern, I think, actually. With a barrier around him, Crono's sword is futile.
Hmmm...perhaps...Hal or Kyle, though? I think Crono could eventually break their will...or at least Kyle.
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Hmmm...perhaps...Hal or Kyle, though? I think Crono could eventually break their will...or at least Kyle.
I was never really into the Grren Lantern series, but I remember him in the Justice League cartoon, and e was a kickass Black Guy. So whoever that was.
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Hal as Spectre perhaps?
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There truly is only one match for Crono. Some one scary. Some one who strikes fear into everyone's hearts. Some one who can kill the main character's twin sister and still make the main character not completely want to kill him. Maybe that's just because main character man is a loser. I doubt anyone's ever heard of him. Seishiro Sakurazuka. He's the avatar man with one eye completely white. He's in black-and-white.
Yeah i heard about him from a friend. He'd be a pretty good match indeed but he doesn't have a chance of killing Crono... That's what this is truely about... fidning someone who can push Crono so much he might actually lose, but it is uncertain because there isn't like a comic, game, or flash of it anywhere.
So far the people listed who can do just that(and with reasoning why as well)Samus, Megaman, Guybrush Threepwood(you have to read why to understand...), Randi from Secret of Mana, Ryu from Street Fighter, Dr. Doom, Batman, and the Ninja Turtles(all four of them). THOSE guys could possibly TOP Crono, putting up a 50/50 battle. Except for Samus and Megaman. Those two sound more like a 60/40 battle and have a higher more likely chance of terminating Crono. However, they aren't as high because as it's been stated, Crono has determination. Even when it's obvious he's about to die, he still dares to fight against Lavos, he just didn't use his head to attack from the side and went head in. If Crono used his head more, his chances MIGHT increase against those two. But it's only a maybe, Megaman is a robot of mass destruction with human personality and an IQ of a robot combined with a human(in other words, he may not seem it but he's a freaking genious), and Samus is pretty smart as well(did learn from the smartest beings in the universe). If anyone can top them, they deserve a reward of some sort.
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You know what I think? Chrono doesn't stand a chance against a player that doesn't know how to play Chrono Trigger. He'd die at the hands of Gato before he knew what was going on. :lol:
Either that or Kefka. You know, with the "light of judgment" and all. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/mixmasta_k/Kefka/Kefka20-20Wave20Front.gif)
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Please, Kefka may be insane but if a band clearly weaker than Crono and gang could stop him, no doubt Croo could win. Although i will admit that be quite a fight, but the end results would be obvious.
As for the crap player, give him to my friend's little brother(about 4 years old). If he can make Fox in Melee lose to a level 1 Ganondorf, but suicide even though he got knocked off the side, and not the bottom, he can make Crono be killed by Gato. Now I'm curious what happens WHEN you LOSE to gato...
Perhaps it shall play the game over scene, fade to black, fade back in to gato standing before Lavos! And if gato wins, the ending will be starting off with the Crono's home, the soldier enters for Crono's awakening and then when the shades are opened gato sits in a blood filled bed, eyes glowing red, and starts singing an eerie tune... MWA HA HA HA!!!!
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Kefka with the Light of Judgement, meaning with the 3 statues, would easily wipe Crono out. He doesn't have any reraise Magic, so even if he survived through them, the final statue would kill him before he got to Kefka...I suppose you could count Green Dream, but one man against the statues & Kefka would be hard-pressed to pull off a victory.
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That's why i'm saying it'd be an epic battle. Of course it'd be close to impossible with the light of judgement, same as with the armies, it's massive groups ganging up on one being. The exception is it's a group of super powerful beings. BUT he'd still stand a chance. I guess though, with reasoning like that, Kefka would also be a good match for Crono.
I still await a topper however... damn arm cannons...
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Well, geeze, we've mentioned various comic heroes, so how about Marvel's no. 1 contender...
(http://media.filmschoolrejects.com/images/hulkorigins-02.jpg)
Crono's sword=fail
Crono's magic=fail
Hulk=win
But Hulk's kind of a cheat, really...Not many at all can take the green goliath down (Doom could).
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The Green Lantern, I think, actually. With a barrier around him, Crono's sword is futile.
I'm fairly sure Crono had a yellow sword at some point. Yellow trumps green, if I recall correctly.
But Hulk's kind of a cheat, really...Not many at all can take the green goliath down (Doom could).
The Hulk? Seriously? Crono's cat could take him down (as it is proven that petting a cat can reduce stress levels. No stress means that Hulk is reduced to Bruce Banner, who then gets sued by Batman for defacing his good name). Besides, in the words of Braniac, all Hulk want is "a decent pair of pants." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvR4hl-Gzw)
But even if we talk Hulk seriously, then Iron Man would have the one up on him (and our spiky haired hero) regardless. Tony's Hulkbuster armor is proven to be able to hold its own against the goliath, and Stark, at least, keeps him fine mind when at full power, unlike Banner. And if Tony is able to field the Thorbuster armor, then Hulk doesn't stand a chance. Crono wouldn't fair much better; it is hard to challenge something that is on par with the gods. Which in turn brings us to the gods themselves.
Thor did destroy the Thorbuster armor, so logically, he seems like the best choice for outdoing every other opponent.
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The great thing about these "who could beat ____" Threads is the escalation in power soon(as it is starting now) it will turn in to well X is better then W! But Y can own X!!! So to end this I give every one Z
Mephisto
(http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/c/c8/Mephisto_001.jpg) (http://en.marveldatabase.com/Mephistopheles_%28Earth-616%29)
The prime evil and ultimate power that not only rivals but surpasses in many cases that of even the Grand Tribunal. Goku, Green Lantern, Samus Aran, and Crono may be powerful but the best the can do is nothing in comparison to just rewriting realty on a whim.
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Doom totally outwitted Mephisto though...I'm pretty sure Strange has as well...If we're going down the god path, I'd go with Death or Dream from Sandman...
Or, if we're going with optimum equipment, like Thought seems to be suggesting with Iron Man...how about anyone with the Infinity Gauntlet? I don't think we should go down that path though. It should just be based on what they'd normally be using, not battle-specific equipment...
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Hmm, Q would crush everyone with the snap of his fingers.
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6628/180pxqasgodck4.jpg)
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I know I'm gonna sound stupid, but who is that guy?
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6628/180pxqasgodck4.jpg)
Also, yeah I have to agree with Thought, if all those guys could be beat by the named characters, then Crono could win(just not as likely)
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I'm fairly sure Crono had a yellow sword at some point. Yellow trumps green, if I recall correctly.
You mean his wooden sword, made of wood?
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A wooden sword could win, surely! It'd take a few hours or days, give or take. And his opponent would be in slow motion. Surely then the wooden sword could triumph.
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I know I'm gonna sound stupid, but who is that guy?
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6628/180pxqasgodck4.jpg)
Also, yeah I have to agree with Thought, if all those guys could be beat by the named characters, then Crono could win(just not as likely)
He's a character from Star trek who is from a race known as the Q. For some reason they are all called Q too. They are pretty much like gods who can do practically anything. This is the most frequently seen one.
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Don't the Q have self-restricting laws against doing junk like that though? Q himself obviously has flawed mental capacity (see: falling for Captain Janeway >_>). I'm pretty sure even Crono could get him to say his name backwards...er...>_>
As for the yellow sword thing against a Green Lantern, that doesn't effect newer Green Lantern rings like Kyle's or John Stewart's (the black Green Lantern).
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Don't the Q have self-restricting laws against doing junk like that though? Q himself obviously has flawed mental capacity (see: falling for Captain Janeway >_>). I'm pretty sure even Crono could get him to say his name backwards...er...>_>
Did you see the episode True Q? The girl asks him
"What do you do with the power?"
"Whatever we want."
The only thing they have to lose is if they go way too overboard and cause too much mischief they might be stripped of their powers. In the last episode of TNG All good things, they tell Picard that if he can't stop it, Humanity will be destroyed. Does that kind of answer your question?
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I'm fairly sure Crono had a yellow sword at some point. Yellow trumps green, if I recall correctly.
You mean his wooden sword, made of wood?
If it is yellow, then yeah. Pretty sad that the Green Lantern would get his ass handed to him by a stick, but I'm not the one that made his ring weak to the color yellow.
As for the yellow sword thing against a Green Lantern, that doesn't effect newer Green Lantern rings like Kyle's or John Stewart's (the black Green Lantern).
I'm actually glad to hear it. It was a fairly craptacular weakness, almost as bad as being weak to one's own home planet.
<.<
>.>
But anywho, since as you pointed out things are getting a little out of hand in the comparisons. Given that Crono faced a monster, perhaps we should limit ourselves to humans and monsters (rather than humanoids of various origins and sundry).
Which is probably a good thing, because the next step would have been to throw a Time Lord into the mix and he's already proven that he can outdo "fake gods and bad gods and demi gods and would-be gods" etc.
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What hero hasn't proven that they can defy dark gods of sorts?
Now the challenge is to make sure the bad guy doesn't come back. Not too many can do that. Crono did do that, by turning it into technically an entirely different being. So by stopping one evil, he accidentily created a greater evil.
And, Green Latern is weak to the color yellow? I guess he can't come onto forums then because of the smileys. Hell, he can't use the internet at all! In fact, how does he live if he's surrounded by yellow everyday?
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A yellow smiley isn't an attack, for one...nor does he require his Green Lantern ring to surf the net (though I guess he could create a computer facsimile and then everything would have a green tint)...and like I said, it was a flaw of the old GL rings. Now the only weakness lies within the willpower of the user, I'm pretty sure...I was never a big fan of any GL, really...
I think what we should focus on is the fact that we're being asked who'd be a "worthy match" for Crono...I don't think Q snapping his fingers would be much of a match at all, really...So maybe those kinds of instant death people don't count? Bye bye, Potter, no Avada Kedavra 4 j00!
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Worthy match huh? How about the most badass swordsman of then all:
(http://www.haibane.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/full_jack.png) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUaCtgto0fo)
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YES YES YES.
Back to the past, Samurai Jack~
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Watchout!
Jack, jack jack jack.
Back to the past
It's Samurai jack!
That'd be an interesting fight to see. Just like Crono, he battles the apocalypse of the planet itself, he uses a katana, he has major skill with it, he's a time traveler, AND while he might not have magic he's proven against all his magic wielding opponents that he uses very unique and interesting forms of fighting in order to even the odds. I'm not sure but that MAY be a topper(being a better face off than Samus or Megaman, the top choices).
Thoughts? This one seems good.
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It almost seems like Jack was inspired by Crono...
This is also coming from someone who sees similarity between Piccolo and Magus, so don't take it from me.
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Oh, man... when was the last time I heard anything from Samurai Jack? *after a quick check on Wikipedia* Here's the thing. Jack's sword only destroys evil. ... EVIL!!! It won't harm good.
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AH!!!! Knew a match like that was too good to be true.
Sorry Jack, maybe if Crono merged with Lavos instead of Schala?
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Since someone mentioned the Turtles, I've got a one up going down that path...
(http://moonlitgarden.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/uy10brink.jpg)
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I... do not remember that guy. But he looks awfully familiar...
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Oh, man... when was the last time I heard anything from Samurai Jack? *after a quick check on Wikipedia* Here's the thing. Jack's sword only destroys evil. ... EVIL!!! It won't harm good.
...I'm pretty sure he could get away with using another sword. Or weapon. Isn't he a master of pretty much anything the plot requires him to use?
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I remember that episode where he wore those awesome shoes. That was badass.
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More of a match for Lucca but hey:
(http://www.norse-man.net/marvel/Char-R/RocketRaccoon.jpg)
This thread is one dog from turning furry.
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So... someone who uses a katana, uses magic, and fights the end of the world.
Sounds like a job for Rand Al'Thor, the Dragon Reborn. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Al%27Thor)
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You know what? After playing through the whole game and actually beating it on very hard, I'd have to say it'd be the boy who wanted to be the guy. IWBTG's main character. That guy is freaking crazy. And macho.
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Raiden from MGS4 he could kill Crono in a sec. (only in cyborg form)
And he also uses thunder magic LOL
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Yeah, Raiden already figured out he couldn't win.(somewhere in here, this thing topic's gotten big!)
And also, even if the cyborg one could do it, if it would be that fast, wouldn't be an interesting match. We already got all those god like characters who can snap a finger and the match is over.
And hold on a sec... a Metal Gear Solid character using "magic"?
Isn't that game series supposed to be more on the realistic side? :?
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Mutants & gene manipulation="realistic" magic
Gods, now we have three unnamed dbags who think Link, Snake & Cloud could actually make it against Crono...you lurkers make me sick~!! :lol:
So... someone who uses a katana, uses magic, and fights the end of the world.
Sounds like a job for Rand Al'Thor, the Dragon Reborn. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Al%27Thor)
Does Rand use a katana...? Is that what the heron-marked blade was supposed to be? But, yeah, I'd agree that he would be a match...though I always liked Lan more...(I'm only up to book 4)
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SNAKE? C'mon, Raiden maybe in that cyborg form(because that is just ridiculously strong, but not an interesting match) but Snake?
Link it depends(wish they'd give reasoning)cause if it's one of the Links that actually got the power of the Triforce at their disposal(Original or the strongest A Link To The Past) then he might stand a chance. Any of the others would instantly get whupped.
I'm not even gonna go into Cloud. When i first heard that on Facebook I gave the person a verbal lashing like none other with undeiable reasons as to why Cloud could never win against Crono.
Just look at their villains for short. Sephiroth not as strong as Lavos.
Cloud had trouble with Sephiroth. Crono dominated Lavos.
I had a lot more but that's a short quick version of one of my 13 points(each 3 paragraphs long).
Snake, no.
Link, maybe.
Cloud, no.
I simply put them on there to be fair, but for people to actually vote them when all these incredible other names have bee listed? Next you know, Pikachu or Sonic will get a vote!
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Actually, wouldn't Pikacu be quite effective against Crono's lightning attacks? As I remember, Pikachu absorbs lightning, Crono can just cast it. Pikachu would actually have the upper hand.
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Crono + Confuse = Pikachu could use agility or double team all he wants, lightning speed plus four strikes is going to slaughter him.
Plus if you've ever seen the anime of Diamond and pearl(I made a parody)it showed in the 2nd episode Pikachu battling someone stronger with lightning and Pikachu got beat down with lightning. In fact it happened more than once in the series. So since Crono is(obviously)stronger than Pikachu even if pikachu absorbs lightning, Crono's blasts he could absorb and also get hurt by doing so.
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Not to mention that Luminaire is more than a simple Lightning attack. Pikachu fails to the awesome might of a holy light nuclear explosion.
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PIKACHU used TAIL WHIP
CRONO's DEFENSE fell!
CRONO used LUMINAIRE
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PIKACHU is unable to be found in this existence!
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Does Rand use a katana...? Is that what the heron-marked blade was supposed to be? But, yeah, I'd agree that he would be a match...though I always liked Lan more...(I'm only up to book 4)
I think most heron-marked blades are katana-like, but it is quite hard to tell since Jordan put normal cultures and myth in a blender and hit frapee (Rand is a Tyr like character who for some reason pulls the sword from the stone; mmm, tastes like some nice arthurian legend with just a hint of Edda).
Hmm... What about Lion-o? He can't use magic like Crono can, but he does have the Sword of Omens and the Claw Shield, which seem to be vaguely magical in nature.
And on a plus side, Lion-o might snack on Picachu before the battle, like a cat playing with a mouse.
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You know what? Looking back so far only a select few on my list of choices are good, about 3 or 4. They may be the most popular but a lot of them are pretty pathetic.
Mario.
I eat mushrooms to get big and eat flowers to use a dragonball similar fireball. I also fly with a cape dress up like a raccoon to fly or turn into a statue, I dress like a frog when I want to swim, I play tennis, I play baseball, I play soccer, I am worthy of competeing in the olympic games, I dress like a rabbit to jump high, I can become an angel, I can become metal, I can become invisible, I can dress like a bee and have the abilities of a bee, I can dance and be straight, I can have over 10 different girlfriends and none of them mind, I fight turtles, I fight my family, I fight monkeys, I fight hedgehogs, I fight swords, I fight other various beings, I ride around on a Land before time ripoff of a dinosaur, I am the most annoying baby to have ever lived, I apparantly have super strength since i can lift Bowser with ease and yet I have trouble lifting half his weight with other enemies, I have more personalitys than you can count, I am a hero AND a villain, I am Nintendo's mascot, I have been sucked up to by almost every big gaming name there is, I am most likely a god, and I get wasted by a freaking electrical nuclear blast and yet somehow even though I have so many reasons to dislike me, I have more fans than any other gaming character apparantly and yet I always get beat out by Link in popularity contests WTF, and I with all of this I STILL manage to beat out freaking Crono in a popularity contest? WTF?
Whatever.
Come this years Character Battle on gamefaqs, Crono will improve with him coming out with the DS port, he needs to win. Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, and pretty stupidly L-Block(not even a character, how'd IT get in?) have all won. Crono usually gets beaten by Mario. When he finally won he got pitted against the obvious winner Link. He got beat out once by Sonic, barely though only in the double digits did Sonic win, and latest is Link and VINCENT?! Vincent Valentine from FF7?! A character who came out with one unique game for himself that turned out pretty bad, and Vincent beat him?
Hit List:
Mario
Sonic the Hedgehog
Vincent Valentine
L-Block
Pacman...he knows what he did...
http://apps.facebook.com/graffitiwall/show_replay.php?rn=2179c0c2cc002ce31c4a4c89b5e15694
Something I found in the gallery.
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Vamp would also bet Crono he is inmortal with those nanomachines same with raiden. Kojima really is into the Nanotechnology in a near future. And with that Crono will loose easily. And the thunder that raiden can use is made out of his nanomachines do you really think that was magic...
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I thought it cause you said
Raiden from MGS4 he could kill Crono in a sec. (only in cyborg form)
And he also uses thunder magic LOL
And not playing a lot of MGS, I have to go on what you say since you clearly know more about it, not much choice. I played the first, that's it.
And immortality? C'mon, what kind of fight is that? I wouldn't find it interesting at all if I knew one of the guys was immortal!
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Come this years Character Battle on gamefaqs, Crono will improve with him coming out with the DS port, he needs to win.
You're treading dangerous ground with such forbidden talk, there...
idk why nanomachines would be such a big deal against Crono...Luminaire should take care of them.
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Come this years Character Battle on gamefaqs, Crono will improve with him coming out with the DS port, he needs to win.
You're treading dangerous ground with such forbidden talk, there...
idk why nanomachines would be such a big deal against Crono...Luminaire should take care of them.
Forbidden talk? :?
That was just me rambling on, forgetting to stop. I don't like mario, for more than just that contest, many reasons.
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Come this years Character Battle on gamefaqs, Crono will improve with him coming out with the DS port, he needs to win.
You're treading dangerous ground with such forbidden talk, there...
idk why nanomachines would be such a big deal against Crono...Luminaire should take care of them.
True, I didn't think about that even Cloud could beat him. But I wonder if they can defeat Lavos.
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I think link because they are basically the same powerful resourceful and cover all attack ranges. however Crono is basically impossible to beat for if you remember he starts the game with a speed of twelve and other begining characters are only at 8? 9?. well you get the idea but because link uses as many tactics that start far away and get closer for a kill he might have a chance if he were to play it smart and carry fairies with him. as well as the FD mask then the fight would be entertaining. the fact is that they both have multiple attack options and are heroes of time as well as being silent protagonists. you can't go wrong with this match up I still seeing Crono winning though but not by much.
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Forbidden talk? :?
We dun talk about them stupid popularity polls from GameFAQs.
I don't see Link having much of a chance against Confuse & Luminaire.
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At least someone voted for someone in the upper area and did one of the requirements from the start. STATE WHY THEY'D STAND A CHANCE. Everyone else who has followed that rule has selected other.
And, ah. Okay, I understand.
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Forbidden talk? :?
We dun talk about them stupid popularity polls from GameFAQs.
I don't see Link having much of a chance against Confuse & Luminaire.
Actually link has narus love which nulls all damage. and blue potions to restore his health and magic. also the stone mask would conceal him from Crono. but I also took into account that Crono would get punished by this but eventually find a way around it before he gets too brutal.
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Yeah, but again, I say that it should be equipment that they would normally be using, not circumstantial stuff like that. Potions, sure, but Crono's got that too (and in far greater supply if I remember...what's the max amount of empty bottles Link's ever been able to carry? 4? 5?)...but the masks...? idk...Link only had access to those during one of his adventures...I mean, you might as well say Minish Cap Link would crawl into his nose & stab him in the brain or something...>_>
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...I mean, you might as well say Minish Cap Link would crawl into his nose & stab him in the brain or something...>_>
Eew. I don't really want to think about that. If Link can't use stuff like that, would that mean Crono can't use stuff like Prism specs or some other various item?
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More or less, I suppose...I could see him using a Gold Stud (I always had one equipped). It'd make sense to have something equipped normally that'd increase your stamina like that...plus, it's not really situational...But then again, neither are the Prism Specs. Stuff he wouldn't be able to equip would be stuff like the Plates to absorb certain Magics & stuff like that. Equip that would give specific advantage over a specific enemy or situation. It's kind of like the Batman vs Superman arguement...only Batman really WOULD be prepared for everything and have some Kryptonite or some sort of magical item fairly handy.
If being invisible were a skill he learned, perhaps...but if it's just something he equips...But anyways, he'd have to put it on during their battle, so then Crono'd just use Luminaire once he saw him turn invisible or w/e (I didn't get every mask in MM cause I got bored). Same with FF ninjas who could do the same with a skill...
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Why hasn't anyone said Wario yet? Did you ever play the Wario Land gameboy games? He's INVINCIBLE.
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I remember the first one (& wasn't there one on the Virtual Boy?)...but all I remember were two of his power-ups...the weird lookin adventurer helmet and the weird bull helmet that let you spike into ceilings or w/e...Besides, all he does now-a-days is threaten people with mini-games...V_V
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The only Wario games I've played are Wario world (I beat that one in two days at a sleep over :) ) And Super Mario 64 DS if that counts. I haven't seen enough of him to think that he could be Crono.
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Yeah, I never really knew what made him any more than some kind of Mario Mirror Match...very Shadow the Hedgehog. Hey, there's an idea! How about something Mortal Kombat-esk! Could Crono defeat...HIMSELF!?!
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6523/cronovscronozr3.png)
LET'S ROCK~!!
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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/134156
As a matter of fact he could, although it would be quite the epic battle of awesomeness.
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Wow, that was super lame. How can you screw up Luminaire so badly? It was worse that Serge's...not to mention all those Megaman abilities (among others) Crono doesn't have...The only thing I liked was the wacky 360 perspective switch when one of 'em (after a while I didn't know which was which...that person should have gone with my inverted colors idea) was up in the air.
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It's better than another video on there of Crono VS Kirby. Very slow paced, and it is quite inaccurate. It pretty much makes it seem as though Crono would have extreme trouble with Kirby. He gets in a few hits, but Kirby has a massive advantage throughout the whole thing when in all actuality it would be the other way around.
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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/91684
Crono will defeat anything and everything thrown at him.
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That was just as, if not more, stupid. He killed Zero & Samus FAR too easily...not once did he even use any Magic...Megaman didn't even die (or he would have done his exploding light bursts thing)...Some people died on accident and robots were bleeding...wtf?
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It was just for those who enjoy seeing loads of blood, think Gohan is actually a threat to the destroyer of Lavos and I have to agree, as much as I love Crono, him beating Samus like that could never happen. That fight with her alone would be MUCH longer than the whole video.
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Yeah, the video was interesting, but I mean seriously, LUMINAIRE DUDE. Plus Crono wasn't even using Rainbow...it looked like he was using a Lode Sword. >.> And yes, a single sword slash could not possible wipe out Samus's zillion energy tanks. (Not to mention reserve tanks, if we're using Super Metroid here...) And why was she using lame little bullet thingies? Come on, use super missiles or something, Samus! I didn't really think it made much sense that Crono could single-handedly wipe out everybody like that...
And I think that Cloud could beat Crono. Final Attack -> Knights of the Round. Will completely obliterate Crono, even if you up his stats to FFVII standards. Not to mention all that other stuff, like slash x4... >.> And if he's using Ultima Weapon, he'll get stronger the more Crono hurts him...
If you stay in the Chrono universe, though, Crono is godly... I just have to say, Rainbow + Luminaire = pwnage.
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I don't recall Clod using that in Advent Children up against Sephiroth...His usual equip doesn't seem to include summons...He'd eventually get a Limit Break, perhaps...so Omnislash could do some damage...Clod would be too confused & introspective and Crono would help reunite him with Aerith.
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Even with those attacks, c'mon. Cloud had trouble taking Sephiroth(certainly couldn't do it alone). Lavos is tougher than Sephiroth, and Crono single handedly obliterates Lavos.
Don't get me wrong, Sephiroth is powerful but he needed to summon the meteor to attack the whole planet, Lavos just needs to pretty much take a yawn and that happens.
But thank you for explaining your reasoning unlike those who vote and say nothing.
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Ah, good point. If Crono had KotR, though, Lavos would be down like *snaps fingers* that... Just like Sephiroth. (KotR owns pretty much anything, but...) How would that not be a "normal equip", though? I always had summon materia on my characters. Something like that's really cheap though. I mean, seriously, how do you beat a guy that can cause the apocalypse THIRTEEN TIMES whenever he feels like it... >.> But eh. Yeah, Cloud's emo. :p Crono doesn't talk, though, so you can kinda say he has no emotion or personality, so it sorta evens out...
Meh. I don't really care for these things that much. Characters are generally designed to stay in their universes and not cross over into other games... I'm perfectly content to simply do just that.
Is Lavos stronger than Seph, though? Both are pretty much on-par, I'd say... They're both "gods" in a sense, and both can destroy planets. (Though Seph can do it faster and COMPLETELY destroy them to bits, and apparently he can do it to the same planets...multiple times? :p) Eh. Like I said, doesn't really matter.
Samus would likely be able to kill Crono, though. Wouldn't be the easiest of victories, but still quite probable. She's got that nigh-invincible power suit that can only really be dented by super-laser/missle/robots. I doubt even Rainbow could compare to that. Luminaire, on the other hand... And she had the most stuff in Super Metroid, correct? So perhaps she'd have stuff like reserve tanks and the grappling beam and stuff...hm. :/
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Samus, yeah. She can pretty much take down anyone. No questions.
However, Lavos is stronger. I've played through both games. Sephiroth needs a helluva lot to do in order to summon meteor. Lavos just needs to arise, and as with the Ocean Palace incident, it would seem like a normal human being, when Lavos is tired, and woken up early. It gets mad, and is more powerful. So bring up Lavos pretty much anytime, it could beat him.
Not to mention to cause mass destruction, Sephiroth needs the meteor to do so, Lavos pretty much IS that meteor.
Also, on the personality thing, Crono's actions can speak for him. I have recently learned this very well since my voice crapped out on me for awhile and I had to do everything by my actions. People recognized me a lot more when I couldn't speak than when I could! So all in all, you don't necessarily need voice to show emotion. Far from it!
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The only surprise we see from Crono is bravery and shock, haha...
Crono is a pancake. An admirable pancake, but still a pancake.
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Ah yes. That's a good point. Sephiroth needs to do a big, intricate thing to summon Meteor, Lavos just needs to say, "Guh, I'm tired! Stop waking me up already! Fine, you want a present or something?! DEATH MAGMA BEAMS OF DOOM!!!" >:(
And yeah, I really don't like silent protagonists... I want to see personality! Come on! All I get is this weird guy who doesn't talk? o.O I like characterization and personality in games. Silent protagonists don't have those. :( They sorta can, but all we can see of them is their actions...it's annoying that they don't talk.
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I dunno, people say Link can't speak, but it's been learned that it's because he usually has something completely odd to say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELJoKR9zl-g
We do NOT wan a CD-I Crono, do we? For all we know Crono is just the type to go about "Golly gee guys! We gotta make that Lavos go away and save the world! Wait! I'll grab my stuff!"
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I'M SO HUNGRY I COULD EAT A ROLY RIDER :U
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Pai Mei.
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:J9UwL9FXzyoIhM:http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa165/speakforyourself12/Pai_Mei.jpg)
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"I could eat an octorock."
And Pai Mei, perhaps, although once again, Luminare could probably take him. Same for many of Crono's other attacks. If Crono didn't want to be dramatic and immediatelly used his best stuff, Pai Mei wouldn't last too long.
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Huh? Pai Mei? Who's he? o.O
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Huh? Pai Mei? Who's he? o.O
Kung Fu Grandmaster from the Kill Bill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_(Kill_Bill)) movie/s.
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I doubt a response will come, especially since I JUST noticed and it's apparantly been there for awhile but what is the reasoning behind Master Chief? Anything thought is good as long as you can back up your reasoning why. Most of the characters listed have had reasons for them, so if you happen to see this voter of the Chief, please; I'd be happy to read why you think the chief would be a worthy match for Crono?
Secondly, I have just noticed that this is easily one of the most dicussed topics under polling. I didn't look through all the pages but this is a pretty popular subject, hooray!
Last point, does anyone have any thoughts on someone else I have just thought of, Zero?
(http://images.kaneva.com/filestore/253921/1477771/MegaMan%20X%20-%20Zero%20In%20Shadows_ad.JPG)
He uses like a lightsaber, it turns into different kinds of swords, he knows a ton of techniques, and he has a large number of abilities that Megaman X has, and I've noticed a lot of people have said Megaman X would be quite the threat. So Zero is like X except less merciful, doesn't charge attacks(instead he mimics them like a clone), uses long range AND close range, and he's probably the one Megaman X character who has showed in the games perhaps even MORE than Megaman X. Plus he's gotten his own series too, and although Megaman ZX does have a lot of focus on the Megaman portion it's rather obvious Zero's role plays an even bigger part than X's. Thoughts?
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We didn't mention him already? Zero is basically to X as Protoman is to Megaman as far as I see it (replace yellow scarf with blond hair). The ZX stuff is more of a combination of their abilities because X turned himself...into a faerie...>_> Any of them (Mega, Protoman, X or Zero) would be a good fight, I think...you could probably throw in Bass & a few others, but w/e...
As for the Chief...I think it's easy to think of him as a badass...he's got a regenerating shield (but he'd need to run, which, against Crono ain't gonna happen) and a killer sword (but, tbh he doesn't appear to have near the sword-fighting skills of a swordsman like Crono)...The fight would look flashy, but Crono would easily prevail. The Chief just doesn't have a counter for an attack like Luminaire.
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Nah, never brought up Zero.
And as for the chief's melee attacks against Crono, he'd be obliterated in that department. Sure, he has things like rockets and tanks but, wouldn't magic defense(defense against FIRE LIGHTNING THINGS THAT EQUAL BEYOND DEATH)just pretty much mean that it could hit him dead on, and nothing really happens?
Okay, how about any of the following...
Bomberman(just curious if anyone could actually back him up since apparantly someone can to Snake)
Bob or George(you know, from Bob and George? I was just thinking Megaman and they came up)
or maybe even Mew or Mewtwo(considering they're the ultimate Pokemon AND the only ones none of the characters on the shows actually ever beat or came close to beating)
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Aren't there already more powerful legendaries than Mewtwo?
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Please, they say that but Mewtwo has far greater power than any of the other legendaries. And unlike the other legendaries it wasn't a case of EVERYONE has that legendary Pokemon(so much for "rare")Mewtwo you actually had to work hard to get. As for Mew and the other glitch Pokemon you could get on that one island(can't remember their names), those guys were extremely hard to beat if you weren't also at glitch levels. It'd usually say they were at something like level pokeball or level smiley face. All I know is that they were all either A.) Mew or B.) Pokemon that eventually appeared in the next set of games.
Also I'd like to add Vectorman to the mix since his blasts are able to fend off a nuclear warhead(who is the main villain of the game)so, clearly by nonstop firing he could actually defend himself from Luminare and other magics so Crono would actually have to fight him based on skill. And also since Vectorman doesn't have limbs(he's a bunch of floating orbs)Crono would have an even tougher time makig contact with his sword. Not to mention Vectorman has different forms, different forms of shooting, etc. I think Vectorman would be an excellent battle for Crono.
(http://vectorman.net/pictures/vman_cover.PNG)
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Vash the stampede can beat anyone in a fight. :D
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Vash is pretty tough yeah... I'll have to think on it though since Crono has been established to stand a chance against Goku and I'm pretty sure Goku could beat Vash, dunno. Haven't watched his show in forever(if I'm thinking of the right person). Got a picture?
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(http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/calvin-trigun.jpg)
I think Wolfwood would be more interesting myself.
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C'mon, onslaught, www.justfuckinggoogleit.com...
(http://bishounen.info/vash/vash1.jpg)
I'm not too familiar with Trigun, myself, having only read one animanga (boy those things suck)...I don't recall anything that special about him...If I was going to choose someone with a gun from anima/manga-land, it'd probably be Rally from Gunsmith Cats...
(http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/flats/1419/gsc2.jpg)
She's, like, always shooting off people's trigger fingers & such...I couldn't think of another gunner I'd put ahead of her...Although, really the Gunsmith Cats work best as a team...
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Oh crap! I just remembered someone else with a gun that shoots the trigger finger! They'd be perfect if I could just remember who they are! Blast!
So, I guess nothing on Vector, huh? Thought I'd give it a shot.
Anything for Hulk?
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I never really played Vectorman outside of in a store once, I think...Never really went the Sega route (besides later emulating for both the Shining Force & Phantasy Star series)...As for Hulk...didn't we already go over him earlier in this thread...?
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In Trigun Vash is a human evolved from plants, as opposed to we being evolved from animals. As such, he grew very fast, reached a certain age, and then just halted. By the time we see him in Trigun he is hundreds of years old and still looks like he's in his late 20's. Plus, because of his unique origins, he has the ability to use the Angel Arm - his arm can become a weapon more powerful than any modern weapon, more powerful than a nuclear bomb.
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Alright, so Vash has some power behind his kick. So possibly him, possibly still unsure cause of Luminare and Confuse wouldn't give him a chance to use that.
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Well, Vash can dodge bullets, so Confuse shouldn't be able to touch him. But Luminaire, on the other hand, has a rather large blast area and is magic...not sure how well Vash could stand up to that. :/
If he can manage to use Angel Arm, though, Crono's screwed.
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I think it would take Crono just as long to use Luminaire as it would Vash to use his Angel Arm. In fact, I bet the radius and power of the Angel Arm would be more powerful than Luminaire - by far.
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What's the strongest enemy Vash comes up against and how does it fare in comparison to Lavos...?
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We didn't mention him already? Zero is basically to X as Protoman is to Megaman as far as I see it (replace yellow scarf with blond hair). The ZX stuff is more of a combination of their abilities because X turned himself...into a faerie...>_> Any of them (Mega, Protoman, X or Zero) would be a good fight, I think...you could probably throw in Bass & a few others, but w/e...
As for the Chief...I think it's easy to think of him as a badass...he's got a regenerating shield (but he'd need to run, which, against Crono ain't gonna happen) and a killer sword (but, tbh he doesn't appear to have near the sword-fighting skills of a swordsman like Crono)...The fight would look flashy, but Crono would easily prevail. The Chief just doesn't have a counter for an attack like Luminaire.
But Chief is so sneaky. He could just crouch and stay off Crono's radar until an overshield or camo spawned and then pick up rockets or a sniper ;)
Then again he could equip White Mail and spank Crono.
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Unfortunately for the Chief Crono doesn't have to wait for things to respawn...He's got a sackful of items ready & waiting for that slight possibility that the Chief manages to wear down his HP or MP...and the Chief don't got the talent or the time to get his hands on a White Plate...Lightning City, baby, population: the Chief's squatted over corpse.
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Unfortunately for the Chief Crono doesn't have to wait for things to respawn...He's got a sackful of items ready & waiting for that slight possibility that the Chief manages to wear down his HP or MP...and the Chief don't got the talent or the time to get his hands on a White Plate...Lightning City, baby, population: the Chief's squatted over corpse.
Chief is very resourceful, plus with the sniper one shot one kill. Or a double tap to the body :P
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He couldn't snipe someone that moves as fast as Crono...
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I'd have to agree with V there, Crono's too fast for the sniper, Chief could get him but only close range. Plus, Crono isn't like all the Chief multi player characters where one sniper shot to the head would kill him instantly. If that were the case, then Crono wouldn't have gotten past the first level, now would he? :P
Also Crono's got the lightning and the way you are describing it it sounds like you'rte thinking gameplay ways and if that's the case all Crono has to do is select attack and the finger will be directed and Master Chief and then even if he doesn't know where Chief is, his body will be magically transported to wherever that is.
Not to mention why is it that Master Chief would be getting all this extra support but not Crono(the spawning items stuff)? Way I see it if he's given that for the battle but not Crono that's already a form of admitting Crono's superiority that the only way to win is with special power ups.
But I like the fact you actually came out and began supporting your choice! That's good.
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Yeah, like has been said in the thread before, we should probably keep it to regular equip, so sniper rifle & respawning gunky should be left out...Circumstantial items would be cheats...I mean, it's "Who would be a worthy match", not "Who happens to have access to something that would help them defeat Crono", right?...>_>
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Well Master Chief could out prank call Crono. So yeah.... :P
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Yeah, that he could.
just to defned him though(for the hell of it)Crono can speak he just doesn't want to. But pretty much anyone can outdo him vocally. Unless it's battlecries, he has to have some battle cries we just have yet to hear. Link is mute but he has battlecries, so Crono's gotta have some wicked battlecries too!
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Raiden (MGS4) is the only one who can beat crono!
Plus he has lighting powers because of the nanomachines and he as fast as crono.
Even Vamp would kill Crono because Vamp is a vampire and he is inmortal.
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Sylar. As a matter of fact, I belive that he could do it easily:
Kill Robo. Basically, he will try to save Lucca.
Kill Lucca. Steal the abilities of Pryokineisis and Invention.
Kill Marle, steal Ice and Short (See http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/c/c7/Psbook.jpg)
Kill Magus, steal Uberevil.
So forth...
Kill Melchior and steal "OMG I MAKEZ SWOREDS OUT OF BUTTA KINFES!!!11"
Kill Lavos and steal Fuzzyness.
Kick his sorry *** goodbye!
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Who is truly capable of taking on the destroyer of the apocalypse itself and why?
Magus. Crono was killed by Lavos and only took him down with help, but I saw a video where Magus killed Lavos singlehandedly. Out of the choices provided, I'd say Link would win an honorable duel (Master Sword vs Rainbow) and Samus could kill both Link and Crono outright.
What I REALLY want to see is Lavos vs. Godzilla. I'll look for that poll now, or make it myself.
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Wasn't Raiden already brought up? By YOU? :lol:
Sylar, I looked up and it sounds like he's gotta beat Crono before he can steal his powers and while he might beat the others, this is a one on one fight, not the whole Crono cast(if that were the case the majority of the mntioned thus far characters wouldn't stand a chance)and besides when you mentioned how he'd beat everyone you got everyone except for the guy we's be talkin bouts!!! :lol:
And Magus... yeah, Crono is also capable(more capable in fact and proven)of taking Lavos single handedly. As for Link, I suppose if it were just a sword fight it'd be pretty neat and yes, we've established time and time again Samus would be very very lethal :lol:
I just noticed i loled a lot here.
... :lol:
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Who is truly capable of taking on the destroyer of the apocalypse itself and why?
Magus. Crono was killed by Lavos and only took him down with help, but I saw a video where Magus killed Lavos singlehandedly. Out of the choices provided, I'd say Link would win an honorable duel (Master Sword vs Rainbow) and Samus could kill both Link and Crono outright.
But Magus whimped out after one hit Crono took two or three. also for Link vs. Crono, with sword techs. like confusion and slash as well as Crono blinding speed, Crono could hit at any range giving link to concentrate on the incomming slashes while Crono moves at high speeds to different ranges attack Link all over the place. as for Samus vs. Crono, Samus would be pwned because of how long it takes her to move sure she has range but the key component to stand a chance against Crono is to have a style fucused on total defense, or the combination of all ranges, speed, and power. but this is without Crono using his Magic skills incorperate that and all are screwed royally.
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Uh...Samus can't move quickly all of a sudden? You forget about her Speed Booster (& Shinesparking)...? She also has so many Energy Tanks, Sub-Tanks, etc...Crono wouldn't be able to scratch the surface of her armor...She takes on interplanetary alien threats on a weekly basis...Crono barely got through one...
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Yeah, Samus is ridiculously powerful. Godzilla=Kraid
Galactus=Mother Brain final form in Super Metroid
Crono=Dark Ing leader + magic
It may tough to play as her but in actuality from the cutscenes you simply see her pwn every opponent, clearly showing "here's how you do it, 25 minutes, here's how Samus does it 25 seconds." Samus is ridiculously and almost unfairly powerful, not even Gods can (easily)defeat her.
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Uh...Samus can't move quickly all of a sudden? You forget about her Speed Booster (& Shinesparking)...? She also has so many Energy Tanks, Sub-Tanks, etc...Crono wouldn't be able to scratch the surface of her armor...She takes on interplanetary alien threats on a weekly basis...Crono barely got through one...
Its the time it will take her to be able to activate the speed booster that will get her. in all metroid games I have played speed booster did not work automatically, you had to get up to that speed. Crono on the other hand is fast from the get go. and will use all tactic and ranges to his advantage. also samus is not exactally the fastest in the Super Smash Bros. series in whichI can crush Samus with link when I have a handi-cap of 2 and she is Lvl. 8 with a handi-cap of 8.
ONSLAUGHT:
its a cutscene, in alot of games I have played the same thing happens in some of them where this one guy pwns (sometimes a later boss or the player) everybody but then can get screwed over by somthins else because of a lack of something, granted the weapon I see sevierly damaging Crono is her supermissle combo with the wave-beam, so you would need to find a way to null Crono's speed and either have it so he can't escape the move by increasing distance or prevent him from moving all together. also how dose Crono = the Ing Emperor? Crono is much smaller than that Ing and most of the metroid bosses for that matter. Samus' mobility of some joints are restricted by her armoe while crono has no hindering armor on his movement of joints and his agility. but yeah I do see your point there with some people its hard to tell who would win? this is one of them where I can see no real winner.
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That's why I added plus magic. And the further you kick the crap outta it, the smaller it gets! But yeah, that's the closest I could think of. By the way for stopping Crono in his tracks, the missles she has in metroid Fusion even if they miss the target explode and spread so he'd have to move at either the speed of sound or light to avoid getting frozen solid.
Also, if you look closely at her armor the way it's drawn and designed it has something similar to what the Megaman X characters have that takes away the joint rule, but I can't think what they are called...
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A CHALLENGER APPEARS...
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z202/vendettachrncls/anime/Gurren%20Lagann/Kamina.jpg)
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA
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I honestly think Link would be the best match against Crono. Not sure who would win, but that would be a fight the gods themselves would always remember.
As for another match-up, I propose Zero VS Vader. Zero wins. No exceptions.
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A CHALLENGER APPEARS...
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z202/vendettachrncls/anime/Gurren%20Lagann/Kamina.jpg)
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA
Okay, um, who? That is just, wow. For some reason I think a very wierd night, drunk, No More Heroes creators coming up with ideas and they were dressing up BoF Ryu for their ideas and this was the one where they had total(combined)26 beers, and something else.
But seriously, who is that I have no idea but I did burst out laughing thinking them clashing swords and him saying that.
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Okay, um, who? That is just, wow. For some reason I think a very wierd night, drunk, No More Heroes creators coming up with ideas and they were dressing up BoF Ryu for their ideas and this was the one where they had total(combined)26 beers, and something else.
But seriously, who is that I have no idea but I did burst out laughing thinking them clashing swords and him saying that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurren_Lagaan
LORD KAMINA WILL CRUSH CRONO WITH HIS HEART'S BURNING FIRE
PIERCE THE HEAVENS WITH YOUR DRILL!
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Okay, um, who? That is just, wow. For some reason I think a very wierd night, drunk, No More Heroes creators coming up with ideas and they were dressing up BoF Ryu for their ideas and this was the one where they had total(combined)26 beers, and something else.
But seriously, who is that I have no idea but I did burst out laughing thinking them clashing swords and him saying that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurren_Lagaan
LORD KAMINA WILL CRUSH CRONO WITH HIS HEART'S BURNING FIRE
PIERCE THE HEAVENS WITH YOUR DRILL!
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg66/kingofkongs15/picard-no-facepalm.jpg)
You're entitled to your opinion, as am I, but I have to admit I f***ing HATE fanboys.
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Its the time it will take her to be able to activate the speed booster that will get her. in all metroid games I have played speed booster did not work automatically, you had to get up to that speed. Crono on the other hand is fast from the get go. and will use all tactic and ranges to his advantage. also samus is not exactally the fastest in the Super Smash Bros. series in whichI can crush Samus with link when I have a handi-cap of 2 and she is Lvl. 8 with a handi-cap of 8.
If you're going to say that then you might as well say that Crono has to wait for his bar to fill up before he can use any of his Techs...She was still fast even just doing the running up to using the Speed Booster. And, what? Samus wouldn't use tactics & everything to her advantage?
so you would need to find a way to null Crono's speed and either have it so he can't escape the move
Hello Ice Beam+Wave Beam. Oh? You're behind something? DOESN'T MATTER. Oh, now you can't move because you're frozen? SUPER MISSILE TO THE FACE!! Or she could plant a Super Bomb (I'd say on par with a Luminaire if not moreso)...
Samus' mobility of some joints are restricted by her armor while crono has no hindering armor on his movement of joints and his agility.
Yeah, I'm so sure that the armor which allows her to curl up into a ball is really restrictive...And, also, Crono does wear armor (to up his Defense)...if we're saying he's going into this bare bones, he's dead before he takes two steps.
Also, any of Samus' ships>Epoch
You're entitled to your opinion, as am I, but I have to admit I f***ing HATE fanboys.
While Tact certainly didn't make his point well (lay off the Caps, dude)...I'd have to say that 1) I hate people who state that other people are entitled to their opinion as if that's a revelation unto the world that needs stating & 2) I'm pretty sure this whole thread (not to mention the Compendium as a whole) is for fanboys...;)
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Lord Kamina is forever in the springtime of youth. However, Crono is moot, and moot can not be SoY.
Therefore, Kamina > Crono.
But that is only my opinion.
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You're entitled to your opinion, as am I, but I have to admit I f***ing HATE fanboys.
While Tact certainly didn't make his point well (lay off the Caps, dude)...I'd have to say that 1) I hate people who state that other people are entitled to their opinion as if that's a revelation unto the world that needs stating & 2) I'm pretty sure this whole thread (not to mention the Compendium as a whole) is for fanboys...;)
I should've been more specific. My apologies for not doing so. I confess that I hate RABID fanboys (Caps is used for emphasis), like Carl from The Trek Life is a rabid Star Trek fanboy. I read his comic b/c it's funny. I'm a Trekkie myself, and as a Trekkie I think Carl needs more of a life. But that's just me.
For the record, my definition of a rabid fanboy is someone who goes up to their idol and goes "0/\/\6 u i$ 60|) i \/\/0R$HiP j0o 4 j00 R0XX0RZ A11" or some random shit like that. Yeah, who doesn't hate them?
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Well, apologies for coming off as a "Rabid Fanboy", I was just using capital letters to emphasize the spirit of the character. A common misunderstanding.
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Well, apologies for coming off as a "Rabid Fanboy", I was just using capital letters to emphasize the spirit of the character. A common misunderstanding.
*nod* It's OK. Just a really big, $3Ri0U$ BUi$i|\|3$$ pet peeve of mine.
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Don't worry about it, Tact... Darkman posts one word posts to get his post count high...
Hahaha... just messing with you, Darkman! Seriously! Don't think I'm being mean, I'm just playing...
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Don't worry about it, Tact... Darkman posts one word posts to get his post count high...
Hahaha... just messing with you, Darkman! Seriously! Don't think I'm being mean, I'm just playing...
*raises eyebrow* Almost thought you were serious.
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I promise I'm just playing...
I gotta take care of my boy Tact!
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I promise I'm just playing...
I gotta take care of my boy Tact!
Indeed you do...
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Boo is da man, 4 realz.
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You ALL need to stfu and stop patting each other on the back with pointless posts. :lol:
And, yes, drop the one-liner posts, dude...I am serious. ;)
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You ALL need to stfu and stop patting each other on the back with pointless posts. :lol:
And, yes, drop the one-liner posts, dude...I am serious. ;)
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Dude, seriously, most of what I have to say fits on just one line, so that was kinda mean, even if you were kidding.
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No, I meant one word...Sorry for the misunderstanding...but seriously, let's stop this and leave the topic for the topic.
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Seeing as how the Internet Police busted up this partay...
I'd say these Internet Police could defeat Crono!
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Thor would destroy Crono. Hammer to the face.
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From the sounds of it, smacktalk, that guy would wipe the floor with Crono. But skill wise, I checked it out.
I think your fanboy powers are clouding your mind yougn Chronoty, because I doubt they would last very long if Crono got the sense to use his stronger attacks earlier on(like Luminaire). But still nice to see you fighting for him, just would prefer a more liable defense for him than just he is awesome.
Internet Policez? PWEASE!!! Dey's get der ass's handed t0 zem s!!!!11!!! But seriously, I don't see any form of authority stopping him(he DID bust out of jail and take out a tank with incredible ease didn't he?)
And Thor, Thor would definetly be a tougher match, that one sounds good. I'm interested to hear more about him, go on. I mean after all being the god of thunder, the only magic attack Crono would have left is Luminaire and even then it'd be at about 75% of it's true power. Unless of course you count the DS version of him where it isn't lightning but light, technically those are two different things so he might not reduce his strength! Thoughts Jutty or anyone else?
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Source: http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson) (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson))
Powers
As the son of Odin and Gaea, Thor's strength, endurance and resistance to injury are greater than the vast majority of his superhuman race. He is extremely long-lived (though not completely immune to aging), immune to conventional disease, and highly resistant to injury. His flesh and bones are several times denser than a human's.
As Lord of Asgard, Thor possesses the Odinforce, which enables him to tap into the near-infinite resources of cosmic and mystical, enhancing all of his abilities. With the vast magical power of the Odinforce, Thor was able to even dent Captain America’s shield with Mjolnir.
Abilities
Thor is trained in the arts of war, being a superbly skilled warrior, highly proficient in hand-to-hand combat, swordsmanship, and hammer throwing.
Weapons
Thor wields Mjolnir, a hammer forged from uru metal. Mjolnir is virtually unbreakable, and allows Thor to command the powers of the storm, causing rain, thunder and lightning. Thor can channel the storm’s fury into devastating blasts of energy that can destroy even secondary Adamantium. He can also channel his godly energies through Mjolnir into blasts so powerful that they can slay even immortals. Mjolnir can absorb other energies into itself, which Thor can then release.
Mjolnir obeys Thor’s commands as though it were alive, and if Thor’s will is strong enough, the hammer can pass through nearly any barrier to reach him should he so desire. Using this command over Mjolnir’s flight path, Thor is able to use the hammer to fly, achieving escape velocities. Mjolnir can also transform Thor into his civilian guises. When Thor is a civilian, the hammer most often becomes an old wooden cane. While employing a mortal guise, Thor will transform back into his mortal form should he be separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds.
By spinning Mjolnir in a circle, Thor can open portals to other dimensions. Formerly, it also allowed him to travel in time, but Immortus removed this power. Enchantments surrounding Mjolnir prevent it from being wielded by anyone except those who have been found worthy. Thus far, this includes Thor, Odin, Tiwaz, Red Norvell, Beta Ray Bill, and Captain America. To anyone else, Mjolnir cannot be lifted from the ground nor wrested from Thor’s grip.
Paraphernalia
Thor also possesses the Belt of Strength that doubles his strength, but weakens him after its use; a pair of iron gauntlets to protect him when unleashing Mjolnir's most powerful energies; and a chariot drawn by two goats, Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder.
If he didn't kill Crono from just the raw awesomeness that radiates from his presence. I'm pretty sure he could use those godly energy blasts that kill immortals.
I think he'd eat Crono, the rest of his party, Lavos, and Alfrador at the same time. Then he'd spin his hammer open a time warp to Nintendoverse smack Samus with Link and demolish the mushroom kingdom and return to Asgard to have a cold one.
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I think he'd eat Crono, the rest of his party, Lavos, and Alfrador at the same time. Then he'd spin his hammer open a time warp to Nintendoverse smack Samus with Link and demolish the mushroom kingdom and return to Asgard to have a cold one.
Woah! Crono that sounds pretty decent and so I believe he is someone else who would show an impressive battle of equal proportions on both sides(that's what we're aiming for, cause anyone can name characters that can pulverize him, it's about a decent looking fight)but Samus has taken on godly figures before, 'm not exactly sure if he could defeat her so easily as you claim. After all, her suit was made by although they aren't gods, according to the universe of Metroid the Chozo are certainly the closest things you'll find to a god.
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I say I'm a worthy match, as evidently shown in CTDS. *smirk* By that I mean in charm AND apocalyptic fighting skills.....when I'm under Lavos' control.
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In other words Time Devourer?
Well for one, Chrono universe plus it's already been shown and established you in the Chrono universe, Crono will pulverize you(he was gotten the better of because he was older, were he in his younger days, myeh them lil whippersnappers wouldn'tve taken his kingdom so gosh dern easily!! Heh heh).
But I suppose that does fit the ticket of interesting battle. Since that's what we're looking for, interesting battle as I stated at the begining and what I mean by worthy, not "Who can completely blow him to smithereens?"yeah I guess Schala in a sense could prove to be a worthy match.
But now that this is the second one done I'd like to grant a request that these be NOT frm the Chrono universe only cause those ones are a little more obvious to defend since before anyone even brings them up they are known. However, we may not know something in particular about another character.
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Yes, Thor would do it, but I think we called no-God level characters some pages back...Though I'm not completely convinced he could do it against Samus...
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Yeah, Thor could definetly win and he might put up a decent fight as well.
But that makes me think now, Thor has some trouble with Hulk since the two have fought before and I have seen him actually get the crap kicked out of him by Spiderman before, so I have to wonder if either of them might be a chance for Crono?
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We went over Hulk, I'm pretty sure and Crono really can't do a thing about him...He's definitely god class level as well...Same with Superman...Spider-Man...I don't know if he could really go toe-to-toe with Crono...Maybe if he didn't know Confuse & Luminare because then he'd just be like Electro and I'd say Pete could take care of him handedly...but Spider-Man's not to good against people with magic...he usually falls back on help when things get super-natural on him...Dr. Strange would also put the smack-down on Crono...I'd call him god class too, myself though...
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Crono would destroy Spider-Man I would think. Samus would have trouble with Thor since his hammer ya know absorbs energy.
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Here's some more:
Avalon (Infinite One) from Legaia 2: Dual Saga
Babi from Dragonball GT
Cell from Dragonball
Frieza from Dragonball
Goku (SS4) from Dragonball GT
Kil'jaeden from Warcraft
Melbu Frahma (Virage Embryo) from Legend of Dragoon
Sargeras from Warcraft
Super Android 17 from Dragonball GT
Tokimi from Tenchi Muyo!: Ryo-ohki
Tsunami from Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki
Washu (Chousin) from Tenchi Muyo!: Ryo-ohki
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I'm pretty sure we went over Saijan's too (mostly that they'd be god level class as well)...I'm not too familiar with most of those...
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Fudge......
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I'm not familiar with a lot of them, so when I'm done Christmas shopping I'll certainly look them up but as for the Dragonball characters, if Crono can go toe to toe with Goku as established earlier, then certainly those others from their universe would be obliterated. And how can you add Frieza and Cell but not Gohan or Trunks? Those two wiped the floor with Cell and Frieza. Plus I believe Buu is also more powerful than either of them, and we already established that... actually we didn't estalish anything about Buu. We merely talked about how he had a disturbing encounter with Pacman and others to birth Kirby. :shock:
:lol: So, how would Buu do? i think if we thought Crono would stand a chance against Goku(not winning though)then he could probably manage Buu. Assuming we're talking the big fat pink one like earlier.
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Majin Buu would be god-like since he was made to destroy the gods themselves.
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I don't really see Crono taking on the Dragonball universe...unless it was the early early years I just don't think he'd have much of a chance against most of them...He'd probably get to the semi-finals of the Budokai Tenkaichi and then some wacky mishap that occurs because he "doesn't speak" would bring his (2nd...3rd?) untimely doom. He's fast, but he's just not Saiyan fast...
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Not too mention he would die of old age before the 200 episode long fight ended.
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Anyone else?
Also, sorry still didn't look them up yet. I thought I'd do my shopping that one day but apparantly it was today but at least I am all set.
So I thought of someone else,Ryu from Breath Of Fire? Any of them, but moreso the ones capable of turning into dragons of mass destruction. Numbers 1 and 2 seem to be the most powerful, and they have quite a load of skill.
And on top of that I think a pic of the two would look awesome.
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I thought BoF3 Ryu was just as powerful as those two and had some particularly bitchin Dragon transformations...BoF2 could kick some ass with the fusions with the Shamans...What was special about BoF1 Ryu? I don't even remember anymore (maybe I should replay sometime...V_V)...You might as well throw in Teepo & Rei from BoF3 too...though I guess Ryu is more powerful than Teepo, so there's no reason there...but Rei's psycho crazy form could be quite formidable...
I say some of the dragon forms of the Ryus could probably lay the smackdown on Crono (fly out of range of Luminaire anyways?)...
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Yeah, they could smack him around big time.
BoF1 Ryu I say simply because unlike the others he actually fought the big bad villainess responsible for the crap in the majority of the series and whooped her ass! other than that he's just skilled with a sword.
BoF2 Ryu is very strong and could definetly deliver the smackdown, possibly(POSSIBLY keyword)the toughest one there is although 3 comes extremely close so I dunno. What i do know is BoF2 Ryu takes on a lot, and as strong as the third's dragons are, BoF2's Ultimate Dragon transformation is most probably the strongest dragon there is(if it isn't, then why would they call it the ultimate dragon?).
BoF3 Ryu is admittingly very powerful(although I don't like his look anywhere near as much as the others), and he is very berserk with some of them but I question if he's as tough as 2 since 2 has that ultimate Dragon as I already mentioned...
BoF4 Ryu compared to the last two? Strong, but to them he's a wuss.
BoF5 Ryu...
I cannot even begin to describe the anger I feel toward this one not only being nothing like any of the true ryus, but also his "Dragon form is him turning red all over, and pulling a Naruto Nine-tailed fox but in a panzyish way, and he has a sword. Plus the guy feels incredibly injured at what the others could handle easily!
Ooo, I was stabbed in the leg! First off the others dealt with much more extreme injuries than that and secondly I've been stabbed very badly before and i didn't bend down crying like he did, I freaking grabbed that thing and yanked it out. Course I got smacked down after that, but I didn't break down like that, I could take BoF5 Ryu excluding his dragon form!!!!
So yeah, 2 or 3 could do it. And hell that would also make one badass picture. Crono all red and Ryu all blue the two of them clashing swords while Crono has electricity around him and Ryu has fire around him. Sweeeeet... 8)
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Can I say that the Chrono Compendium as a whole could take on Crono? Think about it... We know where to get all the best weapons and armor, we know how to get all the cool tech's, and we know everything there is to know about him and all his friends - even before he knows it.
Okay, so that probably doesn't count.
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I think Ike (from Fire Emblem's Radiance Chronicles and SSBB) would be able to take Crono. Ragnell VS. Rainbow. Ragnell wins due to sheer mass and weight. Rainbow snaps like a twig.
GREAT... AETHER!!!
SD: Would be bigger, but don't want it too big or it's spam.
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Can I say that the Chrono Compendium as a whole could take on Crono? Think about it... We know where to get all the best weapons and armor, we know how to get all the cool tech's, and we know everything there is to know about him and all his friends - even before he knows it.
Okay, so that probably doesn't count.
Okay, when you put it that way it actually sounds a little creepy... and it's certainly saying a serial killer or rapist could take him down like say Franz or Pierre? GASP! Yakra and his chancellor kidnapping ways put to work on Crono!
I think Ike (from Fire Emblem's Radiance Chronicles and SSBB) would be able to take Crono. Ragnell VS. Rainbow. Ragnell wins due to sheer mass and weight. Rainbow snaps like a twig.
GREAT... AETHER!!!
SD: Would be bigger, but don't want it too big or it's spam.
Good attempt but if that were necessarily true, then wouldn't Cloud be able to do it since Cloud is kinda tougher and has an even heavier sword he carries even more easily? Not to mention we don't know the weight of the Rainbow and the weight issue... wouldn't that make it harder for Ike?
Even if he can carry it pretty easily, he still has a slower swing and as proven well in an episode of DBZ I remember where trunks battled Cell,(that's my example since DBZ and Chrono had the same artists it's done many other places as well)power is squat if you can't even keep up with the opponent and Ike is a slower character thanks to that weight so really Crono with his Confuse attack could easily spin around him so fast he'd have no chance of seeing him AND Crono could be slashing rapidly at the same time(he just doesn't feel like showing off or something so he slashes four times in the game).
Lastly even so, Ike got the crap kicked outta him by characters that Crono could whup the living daylights out of. He may have weight, but we don't know just how heavy the rainbow is since they don't make a bother of that but I'd imagine with the strength behind it, with power comes weight so it's gotta be pretty heavy as well(Crono IS extremely muscular and that's probably why he swings so fast, moves so fast, and treats everything like it's light and slow cause he's too damn fast)and even if it were heavier, the material of the Rainbow wouldn't snap so incredibly easy, and Crono's speed puts him too far ahead for Ike to even touch him anyways.
And of course there is always the cheap method we bring up with practically EVERY character pitted against crono... Luminaire, yada yada, all powerful, blah blah, you've probably picked up the routine since we've done it a thousand times before.
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Chrono beats aliens, Ike slays gods.
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In some cases, the two kinds are the same. I remember that one episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" when the Enterprise crew has to save Wesley (Wil Wheaton FTW!) from being executed for unknowingly breaking a law that carries the death sentence.
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Majin Buu would be god-like since he was made to destroy the gods themselves.
Good attempt but if that were necessarily true, then wouldn't Cloud be able to do it since Cloud is kinda tougher and has an even heavier sword he carries even more easily? Not to mention we don't know the weight of the Rainbow and the weight issue... wouldn't that make it harder for Ike?
Even if he can carry it pretty easily, he still has a slower swing and as proven well in an episode of DBZ I remember where trunks battled Cell,(that's my example since DBZ and Chrono had the same artists it's done many other places as well)power is squat if you can't even keep up with the opponent and Ike is a slower character thanks to that weight so really Crono with his Confuse attack could easily spin around him so fast he'd have no chance of seeing him AND Crono could be slashing rapidly at the same time(he just doesn't feel like showing off or something so he slashes four times in the game).
Lastly even so, Ike got the crap kicked outta him by characters that Crono could whup the living daylights out of. He may have weight, but we don't know just how heavy the rainbow is since they don't make a bother of that but I'd imagine with the strength behind it, with power comes weight so it's gotta be pretty heavy as well(Crono IS extremely muscular and that's probably why he swings so fast, moves so fast, and treats everything like it's light and slow cause he's too damn fast)and even if it were heavier, the material of the Rainbow wouldn't snap so incredibly easy, and Crono's speed puts him too far ahead for Ike to even touch him anyways.
And of course there is always the cheap method we bring up with practically EVERY character pitted against crono... Luminaire, yada yada, all powerful, blah blah, you've probably picked up the routine since we've done it a thousand times before.
ONSLAUGHT:
Thank you finally someone gets the asowme-ness of confuse I still think the move can be compared to Goku (early)/(Mid(normal))/(End (normals tate))'s teleport guard counter attack. It can be proformed by guarding then pressing O or pressing O during your rush attacks, and then hit square three times rapidly causing him to teleport directly behind the opponent and hit them not even a second later this happens three times(if you pressed square 3x) giving no room of excape from the combo. other characters can do it but not as many times as a non Ssj goku. (I like to use (early) I think he's one of the best fighters out there seeing he has all the Triangle attacks (ki blast, tripple kick, ect.) after a cirtain amt. of rush attacks. /ki blast also goes into the teleport attack combo mentioned above. (Budokai Tenkaichi 3. ) So assuming that crono can do this and slash more than four times if he either wants to be flashy/show offy or wants to go all out. he can decimate any one. now picture confuse as a counter attack and crono having the 'Frenzy Band' on Ike would not stand a chance
Also if you wanted to know Luminare's unedited dicription reads Ultimate Holy damage on all enemies. so basically its a Devine attack meaning its all powerful, gets priority, barriers and defenses mean jack squat, and nothing can trump it. to put it simply the attack is unbeatable and can harm gods.
Shadow D. Darkman:
Spekkio is the godof war in CT. and it seems magic can harm him. Majin-Buu is Mand out of Magic if I remember correctly, so if he were to be hit with a magic attack it could either hurt him very badly, nothing, or make him stronger.
Crono could beat any DBZ character with ease seeing as he would not wait 5-35 or so episides and give them the chance to power up. we all know that it feels like it takes that long for Goku to go Ssj 1 & 4. so Crono would just charge and hack them to pieces as soon as they start to power up.
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Oh ho! It's funny because he's referencing the fact that in the cartoon battles were spread through numerous episodes! It's funny because it's true! Or maybe because other people have said that before! If the anime is too slow, read the manga or something...The amount of training & natural ability I think overpowers Crono, who while good with a sword, Goku & most of the Dragonball characters can deflect bullets...I think Crono's Magic is too limited. It'd just come down to him using Luminaire and I don't know if that's enough...It takes him a while to cast (as much as some of the Dragonball moves though, I'll admit...but it's main downfall is its range, which is usually everything within screen range of Crono...I think that a battle between him & any Dragonball character would just be a matter of keep away...Crono's fast, but not trained in extra gravity fast...Dragonball characters are like Superman fast...
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Chrono beats aliens, Ike slays gods.
Um, Crono also beats Gods?
In another poll of Crono VS Serge it ended a while back but it pretty much came down to Crono. Serge whups god ass all over the place in Cross(since a large number of the games bosses' are gods)and if Crono is so better than Serge, then don't you think he would obliterate the gods so really that argument wouldn't stand a chance against him? Plus as also brought up...
Also if you wanted to know Luminare's unedited dicription reads Ultimate Holy damage on all enemies. so basically its a Devine attack meaning its all powerful, gets priority, barriers and defenses mean jack squat, and nothing can trump it. to put it simply the attack is unbeatable and can harm gods.
But as for back to what we switched to back with Dragonball stuff... how did we get onto that?
Majin Buu would be god-like since he was made to destroy the gods themselves.
Good attempt but if that were necessarily true, then wouldn't Cloud be able to do it since Cloud is kinda tougher and has an even heavier sword he carries even more easily? Not to mention we don't know the weight of the Rainbow and the weight issue... wouldn't that make it harder for Ike?
Even if he can carry it pretty easily, he still has a slower swing and as proven well in an episode of DBZ I remember where trunks battled Cell,(that's my example since DBZ and Chrono had the same artists it's done many other places as well)power is squat if you can't even keep up with the opponent and Ike is a slower character thanks to that weight so really Crono with his Confuse attack could easily spin around him so fast he'd have no chance of seeing him AND Crono could be slashing rapidly at the same time(he just doesn't feel like showing off or something so he slashes four times in the game).
Lastly even so, Ike got the crap kicked outta him by characters that Crono could whup the living daylights out of. He may have weight, but we don't know just how heavy the rainbow is since they don't make a bother of that but I'd imagine with the strength behind it, with power comes weight so it's gotta be pretty heavy as well(Crono IS extremely muscular and that's probably why he swings so fast, moves so fast, and treats everything like it's light and slow cause he's too damn fast)and even if it were heavier, the material of the Rainbow wouldn't snap so incredibly easy, and Crono's speed puts him too far ahead for Ike to even touch him anyways.
And of course there is always the cheap method we bring up with practically EVERY character pitted against crono... Luminaire, yada yada, all powerful, blah blah, you've probably picked up the routine since we've done it a thousand times before.
Chrono Master nice try, but you didn't help prove the fighting against Dragonball characters, since you took quotes for two entirely different matchups and related them together. Shadow's was on Majin Buu(although I can't even find where the quote came from)and the other from me as much as I appreciate the compliments about 1/2 of it is for naught since mine isn't on Buu but on Ike.
As for that range thing, just as we don't know the weight of the Rainbow, we don't know the range of Luminaire(although said points sound very logical and very good). It is also possible that whatever his target within his sight range is the limit to Luminaire and if that were the case then the only way to avoid it is to go at such a far distance that really even if the DB characters can make that range it'd be a few seconds before it got to Crono and with his speed he'd have plenty of time to just dodge and so with the game of keep away no one would win... unless either Crono was stupid enough to stand still and let an attack hit him dead on when he has a couple of seconds to dodge or if the same thing happened enough times with Goku or someone else when Crono would use the one thing that could still hit them no matter the distance, Lightning(the first level one). Of course those are both counting that one of them is being incredibly stupid like "Wow! Look at the pwetty light!".
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'fraid I went with the ol' Cloud Strife. Similarities and badassery and whatnot.
But FFVII Cloud. Not emo Cloud from the Compilation. I'm talking about the Cloud who was about to make his way to the centre of the planet to fight a demi-god with his band of world-weary adventurers and uttered the phrase "Let's mosey."
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Cloud Strife and speaking aloud eh? Good fight. Yes, the one from later on as "cool" as he may appear isn't anywhere near as good as the one from the first game not only in personality but also skill wise he may look like he gains skill but honestly he only went downhill, FFVII was his best and a good it was.
Now I'm curious, do you have anything to defend your standing? Since that's what we've been doing, having intellectual discussions about their strengths and weaknesses and contrasting a character with Crono, to determine if they'd get defeated, be the perfect awesome match(like Mario VS Sonic, both are equal in ability to the point where it may be impossible to find the true winner because it's that good a matchup)which is what we are aiming for but have yet to find, if they would win but be in quite a beaten condition, or if they would obliterate Crono.
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Well, I was really just responding to the poll. It's pretty much impossible to argue whether Luminaire would beat Omnislash or whatever.
Both of them are driven protagonists who are statistically the most powerful of their respective allies. PLUS SPIKEY HAIR!
Cloud gets the edge because he's got Jenova cells and Mako pushing him beyond the norm, and could have the right Materia setup while Crono wouldn't even have his double techs...
So, that's my justification for it.
Oh, and Sonic would totally beat Mario. XD (he's faster and can recollect his rings. Mario's done for after two hits)
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But what is Cloud's normally used Materia setup?
As for Omnislash, powerful as it is, that's not an attack to compare with magic since if he equipped a stick, it'd still have magic on it but he'd still be swinging a stick. So if he has a sword, even if it has magic on it, he's still just swinging a sword rapidly at energy. Omnislash can be compared to Confuse, yeah. But to fight Luminaire you need either something similar to it, or if you really do face it with an attack it'd need to be either one hell of an attack, or the person's got guts.
True, Crono would be lacking in double techs but that's no matter for as spiky as Cloud's hair is spiky, but Crono's head is nothing more than a very big and thick porcupine sewn on his head at birth. And it's red from all the people he's slain with it. :P How much spikier can you get?
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Probably dyed red from the blood of those he's impaled on those spiky locks.
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...but Crono's head is nothing more than a very big and thick porcupine sewn on his head at birth...
... LAVOS!?
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Yes @ Chyr0ono is the almighty Lacvos!~!@!!!
Cribno's mom totally at birth qwas ouyt in space and saw this wierd thing and total,lly rhougfht "OMHG dats thingh isd so freaking awesome I want one too!"
But it was all no and so chron o;s mom was reaslly upes4rryt but she styill got togethetr wityh it that night and she3 got all pregenanty and such~
So vback on earth after being done with rifding the Epoch(she took it for a joyridfe one night after Crono got her back at the end of the game)she wound up ghaving a kid but what she didn't realize was she totally went too dfar back in time and so that kid grw up to be CXrino and she went back to her own times!
Thats gota be how Crono has iyt!!!!!
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What... the... f***, Onslaught. Seriously, WTF?
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Chrono beats aliens, Ike slays gods.
Um, Crono also beats Gods?
In another poll of Crono VS Serge it ended a while back but it pretty much came down to Crono. Serge whups god ass all over the place in Cross(since a large number of the games bosses' are gods)and if Crono is so better than Serge, then don't you think he would obliterate the gods so really that argument wouldn't stand a chance against him? Plus as also brought up...
What god does Chrono defeat? The only one I can think of is Spekkio, but recall he was the "Self proclaimed" god of war, now in the new translation is was switched to the Master of war, and in the retranslation is was the Master of war as well. He fought powerful creatures but no gods. As to whether he stronger or weaker the Serge I was always in favor of Serge, and know CTDS seems to favor that as well, in that Chrono and Co. can't beat the DD yet Serge and Co. can.
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The only reason Crono and Co. couldn't beat the Dream Devourer is because they didn't have the Chrono Cross.
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Serge doesn't need the Cronos cross to win though, in fact they don't even have magic.
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Ok, first off I chose not to read those spoilers and am going for 100% of the game before I get that ending, so please stop right there since others may also wish to avoid spoilers as well. From what you have already revealed though I can say, Time Devourer, Dream Devourer. Two different names, I assume two different creatures. And on the chance that it's thanks to the retranslation that the name is different and they are actually the same creature, it could've been much more powerful than when Serge and that group fought it(Like how Lavos is first summoned at Ocean Palace and extremely strong there where as it isn't as strong in 1999 AD). Not to mention both parties wanted to save Schala, however you need the Chrono Cross to do that so CT team couldn't win of course.
I also support Crono being stronger simply for the fact that compare their Luminaires. Same attack, and yet Crono's is much more powerful. And don't think it's cause Serge's Flying Arrow is just that strong because it wipes the floor with that too. Even then, although it is Serge who defeats gods, the gods he defeats are no match for Lavos whom Crono can turn to mulch so the way I see it, Crono can handle gods. Plus, how do we not know whether Lavos is a god where it comes from? It certainly has that kind of power backing itself up, destroying an entire planet from waking up? Hades has to try to accomplish that whereas Lavos does it by accident.
Secondly, there are certain creatures that the races(often not human)consider to be gods and that's what I mean. Even then, if you want to get really technical about it, Serge wasn't truly fighting loads of gods either. He fought one, that's it.
And on top of all of this, one thing comes to mind, why are we actually claiming these characters defeat gods single handedly? Because they certainly do not do that. Ike has an assload of allies, so claiming him to do it by himself is pretty far fetched since he has a large number of assistants in battle. Serge, even more allies(I believe I don't know everyone in the game, just the gameplay for Fire Emblem)and even if he doesn't have more allies than Ike, he still has a massive number of allies and when playing these games although we can only see the characters we are playing as, going by cutscenes and such are we not to assume all the characters you have aquired in your quest are supposed to be with you? So when ike beats gods, he has well over 30 guys helping him, so of course he slays gods. Serge has 39 people following him everywhere once he's set for TD, whaddya think?
I think that goes to show even more how powerful the Crono cast is, because they fight these equivilant villains, but in even smaller numbers(maybe that's why Serge can beat DD or TD or whatever but not Crono? 40 is more likely than 7), that says something about their strength beating Ozzie Slash and Flea just as easily as Serge and co. do, but with less characters. Because if you really count the gameplay thems but not the cutscene strengths, then we might as well say Sonic the Hedgehog can do it b y going Super Sonic, or Flash from MK VS DC using the cheapest methods possible.
Hell if we did that we could count that little dude from katamari Damacy as being a threat, picking up Crono and burning him in a firey ash to help recreate the universe? That guy's a bastard to Earth, and the King Of All Cosmos is even worse... so why can't you stop playing?!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, a fictitious character can be as powerful as you can think.
Someone in Dragon Ball can blow up a planet with a finger, but I'm not sure there's no more power guys.
Why could a human defeat such creature like Lavos who has the power which can destroy the whole world? Well, because they are heros, they can't lose. XD
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Because Crono & Co. leveled & their stats are **! Those aren't even numbers, man! O_o
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Fei from Xenogears could simply just will Crono out of existence.
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Instant death should probably be negated from these versus matches as well...Though I probably wouldn't say so if it were for Magus (he can create a BLACK HOLE!!)...*shrugs* Erasing someone's existence...hmmm...seems like the Entity might have something to say about that...it also seems like a god-tier ability...
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Ah, fair enough.
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Fei could punch a hole in Crono's chest and instantaneously close any distance between them before doing so.
Or jump on in the air and Ether blast his face off.
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Ok, first off I chose not to read those spoilers and am going for 100% of the game before I get that ending, so please stop right there since others may also wish to avoid spoilers as well. From what you have already revealed though I can say, Time Devourer, Dream Devourer. Two different names, I assume two different creatures. And on the chance that it's thanks to the retranslation that the name is different and they are actually the same creature, it could've been much more powerful than when Serge and that group fought it(Like how Lavos is first summoned at Ocean Palace and extremely strong there where as it isn't as strong in 1999 AD). Not to mention both parties wanted to save Schala, however you need the Chrono Cross to do that so CT team couldn't win of course.
I also support Crono being stronger simply for the fact that compare their Luminaires. Same attack, and yet Crono's is much more powerful. And don't think it's cause Serge's Flying Arrow is just that strong because it wipes the floor with that too. Even then, although it is Serge who defeats gods, the gods he defeats are no match for Lavos whom Crono can turn to mulch so the way I see it, Crono can handle gods. Plus, how do we not know whether Lavos is a god where it comes from? It certainly has that kind of power backing itself up, destroying an entire planet from waking up? Hades has to try to accomplish that whereas Lavos does it by accident.
Secondly, there are certain creatures that the races(often not human)consider to be gods and that's what I mean. Even then, if you want to get really technical about it, Serge wasn't truly fighting loads of gods either. He fought one, that's it.
And on top of all of this, one thing comes to mind, why are we actually claiming these characters defeat gods single handedly? Because they certainly do not do that. Ike has an assload of allies, so claiming him to do it by himself is pretty far fetched since he has a large number of assistants in battle. Serge, even more allies(I believe I don't know everyone in the game, just the gameplay for Fire Emblem)and even if he doesn't have more allies than Ike, he still has a massive number of allies and when playing these games although we can only see the characters we are playing as, going by cutscenes and such are we not to assume all the characters you have aquired in your quest are supposed to be with you? So when ike beats gods, he has well over 30 guys helping him, so of course he slays gods. Serge has 39 people following him everywhere once he's set for TD, whaddya think?
I think that goes to show even more how powerful the Crono cast is, because they fight these equivilant villains, but in even smaller numbers(maybe that's why Serge can beat DD or TD or whatever but not Crono? 40 is more likely than 7), that says something about their strength beating Ozzie Slash and Flea just as easily as Serge and co. do, but with less characters. Because if you really count the gameplay thems but not the cutscene strengths, then we might as well say Sonic the Hedgehog can do it b y going Super Sonic, or Flash from MK VS DC using the cheapest methods possible.
Hell if we did that we could count that little dude from katamari Damacy as being a threat, picking up Crono and burning him in a firey ash to help recreate the universe? That guy's a bastard to Earth, and the King Of All Cosmos is even worse... so why can't you stop playing?!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's only Ike.
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For me, it's between Lise Rolante from SD3 or Yuria from Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.
Lise can summon gods and her limit break-like attacks are devastating. She seems better to me than Crono on the physical side. Yuria, on the other hand, can summon the embodiment of light. Narga can top luminare any day.
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For me, it's between Lise Rolante from SD3 or Yuria from Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.
Lise can summon gods and her limit break-like attacks are devastating. She seems better to me than Crono on the physical side. Yuria, on the other hand, can summon the embodiment of light. Narga can top luminare any day.
Maybe that second person, but the first one definetly classifies as a god level character. You said they summon gods! :lol:
How much closer can you get to a god level besides being a god?
Fei could punch a hole in Crono's chest and instantaneously close any distance between them before doing so.
Or jump on in the air and Ether blast his face off.
That chest thing might work if he moved fast enough...
But Ether Blast, I dunno...
He DOES have teh Lavos on his head...
But in seriousness, why would he have to jump above him to blast his face off? His helmet(just because graphics refuse to show it doesn't mean it's not there) would protect him from an attack directly from above(how would that even get his face)unless it were of an almighty goddish level(which it ain't). Plus with his speed he could easily run from that in the time Fei jumps.
But that first point considering speedwise, might count. Depends on what Crono might do. Such as if he were using Cyclone and Fei tried this attack as Crono started, he might just wind up with a couple of chopped off hands. But, that's the only move really he might not predict(also unpredictable because it's the weakest attack and who would expect Crono to use his weakest moves?)
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For me, it's between Lise Rolante from SD3 or Yuria from Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.
Lise can summon gods and her limit break-like attacks are devastating. She seems better to me than Crono on the physical side. Yuria, on the other hand, can summon the embodiment of light. Narga can top luminare any day.
Maybe that second person, but the first one definetly classifies as a god level character. You said they summon gods! :lol:
How much closer can you get to a god level besides being a god?
Fei could punch a hole in Crono's chest and instantaneously close any distance between them before doing so.
Or jump on in the air and Ether blast his face off.
That chest thing might work if he moved fast enough...
But Ether Blast, I dunno...
He DOES have teh Lavos on his head...
But in seriousness, why would he have to jump above him to blast his face off? His helmet(just because graphics refuse to show it doesn't mean it's not there) would protect him from an attack directly from above(how would that even get his face)unless it were of an almighty goddish level(which it ain't). Plus with his speed he could easily run from that in the time Fei jumps.
But that first point considering speedwise, might count. Depends on what Crono might do. Such as if he were using Cyclone and Fei tried this attack as Crono started, he might just wind up with a couple of chopped off hands. But, that's the only move really he might not predict(also unpredictable because it's the weakest attack and who would expect Crono to use his weakest moves?)
It was stated earlier that Master Chief couldn't have powerups like overshield and camo and power weapons, so it's only fair Crono has a wooden sword.
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Maybe that second person, but the first one definetly classifies as a god level character. You said they summon gods! :lol:
How much closer can you get to a god level besides being a god?
Yuria summons a god too. Her personal tome, Narga, summons the god of light in fire emblem.
Not only that, but she has the blood of the god Narga in her veins.
Also, I should clarify that SD3 is also known as Secret of Mana 2 to those who have never heard of it.
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It was stated earlier that Master Chief couldn't have powerups like overshield and camo and power weapons, so it's only fair Crono has a wooden sword.
Actually, it was stated no specified equipment, not original equip only...
Anyways, I wouldn't count Lise or any summoner as god-level...They're relying on someone else to do their fighting for them though...While it still counts as them being worthy, it seems a little weak to me regardless...That's also a specific class change for Lise to be able to do that, right? :lol:
Also, I will never call Seiken Densetsu 3 "Secret of Mana 2" (without SD3, a backslash & quotation marks around it)...that's just the stupid name the ROM hacking community has perpetrated because some people are lazy & stupid and can't handle two (technically three) different names for the same series of games. While it's the series sequel to Seiken Densetsu 2/Secret of Mana, it's the third in the series...For the record I don't really like the name "Earthbound ZERO" much either, but at least that one doesn't completely disregard anything like "Secret of Mana 2" seems to...
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Actually, each one of her top tires has 1 summon. Though her physical attributes are greater than her magic ability, so I wouldn't label her as a summoner, also considering the gods are her only offensive magic. And I call it sd3. I just mentioned that for people who are familier w/ the series, but never heard of sd3 since it never saw a U.S. release :(
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What about Misha or Aurica from Ar Tonelico?
I know, I know, it's a sexual innuendo game all over(and I mean ALL OVER), but still with those songs of theirs, they might be threats considering how they make even some of the tougher bosses in the game go away rally quickly.
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I've never heard of that game...nor its developer GUST...nor any of the games GUST has made...>_>
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Considering Cloud can learn all elements and have 9999 health, I think he's a healthy candidate. Of course, you have to transpose the abilities into some kind of neutral world, but Crono really isn't all that tough. He's mostly fast, and has a couple spells under his belt.
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Considering Cloud can learn all elements and have 9999 health, I think he's a healthy candidate. Of course, you have to transpose the abilities into some kind of neutral world, but Crono really isn't all that tough. He's mostly fast, and has a couple spells under his belt.
And has the ability to handle a ginormous, parasitic, world destroying, inter-planetary threat single-handedly. Yeah, he's not so special...>_>
The fact of the matter is that besides his Limit Breaks Cloud doesn't have any unique abilities that anyone couldn't learn...Materia=CC Elements=Magicite (although, in actuality, not EVERYONE in FFVI's cast could equip Magicite like those other examples...)
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Considering Cloud can learn all elements and have 9999 health, I think he's a healthy candidate. Of course, you have to transpose the abilities into some kind of neutral world, but Crono really isn't all that tough. He's mostly fast, and has a couple spells under his belt.
And has the ability to handle a ginormous, parasitic, world destroying, inter-planetary threat single-handedly. Yeah, he's not so special...>_>
The fact of the matter is that besides his Limit Breaks Cloud doesn't have any unique abilities that anyone couldn't learn...Materia=CC Elements=Magicite (although, in actuality, not EVERYONE in FFVI's cast could equip Magicite like those other examples...)
Not single handedly, good sir, He had six people fighting with him.
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What? I was talking about Crono...
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What? I was talking about Crono...
So was I.
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But you can only have two party members with you in the final battle...and I was also referencing the fact that right after you defeat Lavos in the beginning of New Game+ you can fight him solo.
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But you can only have two party members with you in the final battle...and I was also referencing the fact that right after you defeat Lavos in the beginning of New Game+ you can fight him solo.
Don't you have to have Marle in the party as well?
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But you can only have two party members with you in the final battle...and I was also referencing the fact that right after you defeat Lavos in the beginning of New Game+ you can fight him solo.
Don't you have to have Marle in the party as well?
No, it's possible, just instead of going to the left telepod, go to the portal on the right one.
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Considering Cloud can learn all elements and have 9999 health, I think he's a healthy candidate. Of course, you have to transpose the abilities into some kind of neutral world, but Crono really isn't all that tough. He's mostly fast, and has a couple spells under his belt.
Really...
It's good to support your opinion but I have to question just how much you know about Crono if you actually said that.
but Crono really isn't all that tough. He's mostly fast, and has a couple spells under his belt.
He has only a couple spells under his belt? He's got lightning charged attacks once you learn lightning magic, lightning, lightning 2, he can revive people, increase his speed 10 fold for Confuse, and he has LUMINAIRE. Luminaire, the nuclear bomb of magic. And that's only a crap amount of crap?
Of course, not everyone likes to read past posts when there is a lot and this IS a pretty popular subject so I guess I'll resay what i said earlier(since you probably missed it)why something like that isn't good. Cloud's best move is Omnislash correct? How well will you fair at swinging a sword at an explosion that is five feet from your face? It's not gonna get you anywhere. Same rules apply when facing Crono's magic, especially Luminaire. Not to mention Crono isn't just fast, he's also gotta be strong to lug around swords(even lighter swords are kinda hefty to swing that fast)at such high speeds. Not to mention with his sword skills, if you really want to go by the skills they have in the game, Crono has a massive number of sword moves and forms of striking, and although Cloud has a large number of them, Crono's got more.
Also I'd like to point out the speed thing, if Crono is fast like you say, it doesn't matter how strong you are! With speed, you can outrun all attacks and guarentee success with every strike! Also made a number of points about this as well.
Sorry if I seemed like I was biting your head off, but seriously, you are on a Chrono fan site claiming Crono only has a couple of moves under his belt. You had to see it coming from somebody.
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Considering Cloud can learn all elements and have 9999 health, I think he's a healthy candidate. Of course, you have to transpose the abilities into some kind of neutral world, but Crono really isn't all that tough. He's mostly fast, and has a couple spells under his belt.
And if Crono's fast, I'm sure taking out Cloud would be no problem considering that he carries a huge sword which would have to slow him down quite a bit.
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The one thing about Crono's speed, though is that it doesn't really transfer into his spellcasting speed...His Magic is so internalized that he has to focus his inner strength first...
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Considering Cloud can learn all elements and have 9999 health, I think he's a healthy candidate. Of course, you have to transpose the abilities into some kind of neutral world, but Crono really isn't all that tough. He's mostly fast, and has a couple spells under his belt.
And if Crono's fast, I'm sure taking out Cloud would be no problem considering that he carries a huge sword which would have to slow him down quite a bit.
Actually, Cloud can swing his sword as though it weighed as much as an average sword. That's part of what makes it recognized as so special(if it actually affected him, there would be no way someone as scrawny as him could carry that thing).
The one thing about Crono's speed, though is that it doesn't really transfer into his spellcasting speed...His Magic is so internalized that he has to focus his inner strength first...
True, but it's still about the same speed as Cloud's attack unleashing. Maybe a second slower, but even then there is still the time of Cloud dashing straight toward Crono(Since Crono isn't going to let Cloud stand right in front of him and not punch him in the face and vice versa)so by the time Cloud reaches Crono, their attacks will go off at the same time so in affect that practically cancels itself out(there are situational exceptions, so it only practically cancels, not fully denied that rule).
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I bet the Porre army could take Crono.
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Crono can beat Lavos single-handedly, but in 1999, human probably have high technology, Lavos destroyed the whole world? Yeah, maybe it's an age of peace, no armies, no weapons...
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Seconded. You think they'd know about Lavos before the eruption.
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The skill Lavos use to destroy the planet might be destruction from heaven(from the looking, but I'm not sure)?
The only possibility, is human don't have time to counter attack before they are doomed.
But if that attack is so powerful, it is doubtful anyone can survive it from a face to face fight...
Well, maybe it is the law of RPG...
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Yes, Lavos used his opening attack to destroy the world. What I'm saying is they should have known about the attack in advance.
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They don't even know about Zeal in 600AD...& they chalk Lavos' rumblings up to earthquakes in 1000AD...I think it's a safe bet that knowledge of Lavos was lost...It's possible that something was already happening to the world though by 1999AD...I mean, what's up with those domes anyways, right? >_>
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They don't even know about Zeal in 600AD...& they chalk Lavos' rumblings up to earthquakes in 1000AD...I think it's a safe bet that knowledge of Lavos was lost...It's possible that something was already happening to the world though by 1999AD...I mean, what's up with those domes anyways, right? >_>
I don't think so. Lavos was already known to the world, as shown in the bad ending.
Does the Mystics talk about Lavos in 1,000 AD? If so, then that's how the world got word about it. If not...?
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Mystics do talk about him in Medina Square, but only until Magus is defeated and they start worshiping Ozzie.
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Perhaps they still know about Lavos from their past history and once they merge societies with the humans they inform them of how it isn't earthquakes, but Lavos? So they were trying to prepare with those domes(although they did squat)?
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When they worship Magus and speak of Lavos, they hate humans. They think Lavos will destroy them.
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When they worship Magus and speak of Lavos, they hate humans. They think Lavos will destroy them.
But humans did found out, like the Director in the Arris Dome, he knew it was Lavos who caused the whole thing in 1999.
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That's because the director is a descendant of Marle's. The name was passed down through Ayla's line.
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That's because the director is a descendant of Marle's. The name was passed down through Ayla's line.
Really? If it did, and knew the meaning, I don't think he would related to the big creature currently destroying the world, as he wouldn't call it 'Lavos', he will use modern words for it.
Only if the Mystics told humans of Lavos would they know 'Big Fire' was a creature currently deep beneath them.
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How do we know that it didn't become a modern word for it...? Seems like they could even call volcanos erupting "big fire"...And if I recall in the new translation, it isn't even Ayla's own word, but sounds like it's just taken from their regular language...
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Lavos could have just fallen to become olde legend. Some people know of the word most don't and those that do think it only legend, like Grendel.
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I don't have long so quick summary,
those guys with the signs that say The End Is Near, might be a believer like that?
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Am I really the only person who voted for Chuck Norris???
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Looks that way.
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Yeah, how did we get on that topic(looking back through pages I refuse to do right now, I am very tired after over 7 hours of hard labor)? Chuck Norris. Reason-oh wait, he's Chuck Norris. :lol: But yeah, everyone's vote is pretty much towards the start of this thread and all those votes when you read the majority of the first votes are all toward one bounty hunting babe in a suit of armor, a bigger gun than Megaman, and from all the descriptions is pretty much our icy holocaust if she ever comes to be and some guy says the wrong thing to her. AKA Samus.
New thought of someone,
Nitros from Bomberman series since he does have shields that will help defend him against attacks until three towers that float around him and shoot electrical beams at his opponents are destroyed. On top of this he'll shoot out these icy shockwaves at you, chuck bombs AND anyone who fights him is warped to his own territory, filled with traos and such that cause him no harm but will affect his opponent.
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Unfortunately, in the Bomberman series, their bombs are super weak against almost any kind of barrier...>_>
And I believe Bruce Lee>Chuck Norris, seeing how Bruce friggin taught Chuck...I mean, Bruce was so badass that the only thing that could kill him was a curse...!
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I thought Bruce defeated the curse. *goes to watch Dragon again*
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I voted for Megaman. In fact, I'm the only one to have sided with the Blue Bomber. :lol: I'm sure no one is surprised, but I would vote for X if anything. Granted, it's not like X would be going around picking a fight with a red-haired human with a katana, but the fact that he evolves as he fights is a plus. Add 100 or so years of fighting and you have a bad ass robot.
There's also Samus. Samus rocks. Next to X, she's my favorite video game character.
How Cloud got so many votes I don't know. I don't wanna offend anyone, but Crono would slaughter that patsy. Luminare pwns Omnislash any day of the week.
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Zero would be my second choice. I proposed earlier in the thread that there be a Zero-VS-Vader match.
As for another match-up, I propose Zero VS Vader. Zero wins. No exceptions.
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Yeah, but we already got through Zero, same as X except not as strong and he has a sword.
And Megaman is definetly thought of as a good match but he doesn't have that many votes since most sided with Samus. Megaman sounds like he'd be the second biggest voted though. Specially X and Trigger.
As for Nitros, I suppose you do have a point there. Only bomb that'd be good is the Black Bomb from near the end of 64 The Second Attack gotten from Bulzeeb. Of course, we aren't allowing specific toward the battle, just their most recognizable and trademark stuff so he'd be stuck with his weakest attack Fire Bomb. Nitros, he DOES have most of that stuff for his most recognizable equipment, but that arena of his wouldn't be loaded to the brim with traps and stuff so Crono wouldn't have any problems destroying barriers and getting to Nitros.
I'm pretty sure I know what you'll all say but Issac from Dead Space? Lightning fast reflexes(gotta have them to get through that Space Station), takes on some pretty over the top characters, and certainly when it comes to close range combat although he's just human he has excellent skills close range(considering it's how you do the majority of the killing in the game limb from limb). Think he could survive against crono long enough to put up a challenge?(and this isn't including Luminaire, that's dead obvious it's results)
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Yeah, but we already got through Zero, same as X except not as strong and he has a sword.
Wow. Someone actually grasps that Zero is weaker than X. Most people on the Megaman boards say the opposite. God bless you sir.
Does anyone remember Zio from Phantasy Star 4? There's someone who could put up a serious challenge. He might have been a puppet, but he was a puppet with some serious power behind him. Black Energy Wave and Magic Barrier FTW. Not to mention he turned an entire village to stone. Stone. That's some serious shit, as Doc Brown would say.
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Thank you. I'm surprised no one can realize that since they even outright claim it and prove it themselves(Capcom the creators) on a number of occasions.
As for Zio, that sounds tough. Even tough enough where one Luminaire wouldn't obliterate it. Got anymore info(I have no clue who he is sorry!)cause that would definetly help hold up a few things to figure it all out. :D
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Zio wouldn't win but he would put up a good fight. ONSLAUGHT think Magus but no melee fighting and better magics.
(http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ps/ps4/graphics/screen/express.gif)
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And also include a bad ass fight theme....just like Magus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFgpWnamW_M
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Oh wait, THAT guy! Just showing me that pic and yeah i recognize him! No, he couldn't win but even with Luminaire against him he could actually put up a good fight! KebreI and Sigma Head, nice catch cause Zio seems like an awesome matchup for Crono!
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Arthas from Warcraft 3, because he takes out nations, and he just looks straight up bad assed.
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Jesus could beat him. He didn't even need a Time Egg to revive.
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Crono only died once (& in the end he technically didn't die at all), Jesus died twice. He was also kind of a pacifist...>_>
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Wait, when was his second death? I don't get it. :?
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Uh, after his resurrection...Even I know that much...I'm no religion genius, after all. But, yeah, I said it: Crono is bigger than Jesus! Which makes him at least twice as big as the Beatles (though they both have corny ass names).
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IN SOVIET RUSSIA, Jesus is bigger than Crono!
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I wonder what media region format Russia uses (probably their own wacky Communist one...COM? >_>)...you'd think it would be easy for them to get games, though for proximity's sake, but idk with their language...
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Heh... :oops:
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I'm sure the Spinning Pile Driver has become a Russian staple by now.
Zangief vs Crono? QUICK! CHANGE THE CHANNEL!
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Hell no! I wanna see this!
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Zangief suffers the same problem as the 3rd stage SSJ...too bulky & slow...without any long distance attacks, he wouldn't stand a chance against Crono.
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Wouldn't the better comparison be in DBZ when Cell get pwned by Gohan and gets super-angry?
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Uh, isn't it the same comparison? When Cell does it they even say how he's making the same mistake as Trunks when he went 3rd stage...>_>
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Here's a thought, Travis Touchdown.
Got through with No More Heroes and he's got more skill than you might think! Very skilled sword fighter, lightsaber styled weapon, the guy can take a sword to the chest and still keep going!
He's actually pretty much a combined version of somebody you'd see in Devil May Cry, Star Wars, and the sword fighting skills of someone from Square Enix.
Plus with his determination and blood lust, I doubt he could win but I think he could certanly put up a good fight!
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His last name is seriously "Touchdown"...? >_>
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Zangief suffers the same problem as the 3rd stage SSJ...too bulky & slow...without any long distance attacks, he wouldn't stand a chance against Crono.
Never underestimate men who wrestle bears for a living. (I know...he has no chance. :lol:)
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His last name is seriously "Touchdown"...? >_>
Yes, he is that fucking awesome.
Needs a pic to explain:
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The girl looks pretty hot...the guy looks like any random L.A. d-bag...with an absurd looking weapon...
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I voted for Batman, but only because Dr. Doom wasn't available. Neutralizing electricity and using a magnetic field to repel a sword would be childs play for the Lord of Latveria. Of course, if Crono is using the Rainbow, other measures would be required, but Doom would figure something out. Batman would have a harder time, but he could manage it if he had enough information and time to prepare.
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Doom's got the advantage of Sorcerer Supreme-level Magics. Crono wouldn't stand a chance (fairly sure we went over them way back in the beginning pages, but w/e)...
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/10elcna.jpg)
The Green Thunder strikes like lightning!
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Mr. L? Didn't he die when Dimentio undid Nastasia's mind control on Luigi by ending his game?
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And didn't he sort of brought him back by placing the Floro Sprout on him?
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IDK, methinks that was a cheap knock off since he was all mindless and didn't have the attitude.
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I like to think that Mr. L's sheer awesomeness caused him to separate from Luigi and form his own body. Mr. L is just that solid. In all honesty, unless Mr. L was driving one of his many Brobots, it'd be a no contest. If he were though, he'd have that sweet fight music of his and an awesome fight would ensue.
I'd like to see a Mr. C. That'd be boss.
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The girl looks pretty hot...the guy looks like any random L.A. d-bag...with an absurd looking weapon...
That girl is bitch(I've played through the game, and have to feel the same way Travis feels, the game really sucks you in!).
As for his weapon, it's pretty much like a lightsaber, except a little better. However, that betterness is cancelled out since he's gotta charge it after a large number of swings. This could practically cancel itself though if he used the Tsubaki - III. And you probably have no clue what I'm talking about. Point is, he's anyone from Star Wars, except with a lot more fighting skill since he only has to focus on one fighting style(saber)instead of two(saber and force).
As for Mr. L, I'm not sure...
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Point is, he's anyone from Star Wars, except with a lot more fighting skill since he only has to focus on one fighting style(saber)instead of two(saber and force).
That...sounds more like a limitation to me than an advantage...No Force Throw? Fail. Plus, he still looks like a douche. :lol:
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1.) His skills with a katana are EXTREMELY good. At the level where he could actually keep up with Crono during Frenzy and possibly defend himself from a few of those strikes, possibly them all!
2.) There's a reason he looks like a douche. Because he is one. But by god, his determination, personality, and hilarity can make you want to be douchey like him half the time! Even if his goal is to be an awesome killer, you still feel like "Yeah! Go Travis! I wanna be the #1 killer ever!" And then someone you know walks in and hears that. (I was having a party and someone walked in on me screaming in a joyful tone "Woo! yeah! Die mothaf***a! I'm gonna kill them all!" I wound up having to explain myself to a couple of policemen later that night. I got them to wind up saying stuff along the same lines. And one part in 2 is a lie, though I think it's dead obvious which part it was.
Also to add, since his katana is charged by lightning, half of crono's attacks would only make him stronger as well so, I think although he's a parody character, he'd prove a formidable opponent.
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Who is Mr. C supposed to be?
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Think Dante with a lightsaber.
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Uhh... OK, Jedi Dante. Doesn't tell me anything.
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Is Mr. C No More heroes and something I'm missing or Super Paper Mario(have yet to play it so not sure, I only know that bleck guy and Luigi in that getup)?
I ask cause Danta with a lightsaber is in a sense a pretty close connection to some of the guys from No more Heroes like Helter Skelter. Of course, they have more to them than that though...
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Mr. C = Crono in Mr. L gear. Just...saying.....ya know..trying..to be..clever...yeah.
That was failure. I know.
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Hate to say this, but yeah, it was. Wish we'd known that sooner. *looks down*
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Alright, I guess I take back what I said about Zangief...But it's gotta be Mecha Zangief...
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo81/V_Translanka/Sprites/MechaZangiefFlameOn.gif)
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo81/V_Translanka/Sprites/MechaZangiefExplosion.gif)
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo81/V_Translanka/Sprites/MechaZangiefFinalAtomic.gif)
Now, he's got some moves...!
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo81/V_Translanka/Sprites/MechaZangiefNumeroUno.gif)
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Let's see him take on Lavos.
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If he can grab it, he can kill it and he can grab pretty much anything...And look at that last Super Mega Ultra Final Atomic Your Ass Is Grass (not the actual name) move...! It looks like even if he couldn't grab the first two forms, if he just did it beside them, it'd be just like a Luminaire to the face.
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Teraton-charged Luminaire, maybe.
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It's what I've always said....adding Mecha in front of anything makes it at least 3 times stronger.
For instance, Mechagodzilla. The original 74' Mechagodzilla beat Godzilla into a bloody PULP. The 93' version successfully paralyzed Godzilla and might have won if Rodan didn't revive him. Mecha-King Ghidorah is pretty bad ass compared to his normal form in the movie he is in. Meta (Clever way of saying Mecha) Ridley is more bad ass than normal Ridley. And...again, Mecha-Zangief rocks HARD.
Mecha-Dalton is bad ass as well.....I love that idea for the Playable Schala mod. So why not go a step beyond? Mecha Apollo Creed? Mecha Imhotep, from The Mummy?
Since I mentioned it, why NOT Meta Ridley? He ain't no Dragon Tank, that's for sure.
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Chrono 4: Mecha Lavos' Re-Revenge - As it turns out, someone else was gathering DNA to create the ultimate fighting android to defeat Crono & Co...with the combined might of Azala, Queen Zeal, Schala, Magus, Dalton, the Mammon Machine, Cyrus, Masa & Mune, Mother Brain, Spekkio, Lavos, & Crono & Co. themselves...! Maybe a few DBZ characters just for good measure...>_>
When you think about it, Crono would have a tough time against the Metroids themselves...especially some of the later forms...it might be kind of difficult for him to do without a way to freeze them first...
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Chrono 4: Mecha Lavos' Re-Revenge - As it turns out, someone else was gathering DNA to create the ultimate fighting android to defeat Crono & Co...with the combined might of Azala, Queen Zeal, Schala, Magus, Dalton, the Mammon Machine, Cyrus, Masa & Mune, Mother Brain, Spekkio, Lavos, & Crono & Co. themselves...! Maybe a few DBZ characters just for good measure...>_>
Cue Perfect Cell's music!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgVwJ-W4Ys
In 9 days, The Lavos Games will commence!
Since you mentioned Metroids, the X-Parasite would be just as horrific.
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That form of Zangief, hell yes. That would be an intense battle.
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The Top 10 Dorks of 2008
#4 - Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes) - Travis is like a huge dork buffet, where you can pick any number of crippling personality flaws. He swings a store-bought lightsaber, sits on the toilet to save the game, and can barely hold down a part-time job carrying coconuts. If you identify with this loser, you have problems.
Anyone else on the list is auto-fail because #10 is Billy Corgan (Guitar Hero cameo).
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Gameinformer also had an article where they were explaining how Chrono Trigger and other great classics are stupid in one of their issues!
Plus, that's talking about if you relate to him as a person.
None of those things they are personality flaws anyway! Who doesn't want to buy an actual ligthsaber that could slash apart anything? yeah, pooping to save is funny a little but I suppose tat is more stupid than funny. However he doesn't just do that job, he has loads of other jobs(the jobs are all supposed to be jokes)and on top of that he's got way more serious jobs(killing people)than joke jobs.
Way I see it, that list ain't legit. I doubt they even played through much of the game cause the majority of what I got from that small bit is very flawed in description.
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Gameinformer also had an article where they were explaining how Chrono Trigger and other great classics are stupid in one of their issues!
It was a joke article to be taken with a grain of salt. The sacred cow roast where they took great games and talked about their faults. They did it because no one is supposed to hate on them.
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But that still doesn't answer those other points on which I'd like to add look at their perfect scored games.
They're all great games, yes, but perfect? No way! And then they went and actually rated No More Heroes as a crap game so to be honest anyone who's taking just their opinion alone on No More heroes is going to get an opinion that it sucks. It got a 6/10 from them for reasons such as the script is terrible(it's a parody, it's not supposed to be deep at all not to mention of course it'll sound a little gruesome, it's a game about assassins! Plus wouldn't that be the target audience?), the graphics are horrible and the only way it could be seen as good is if it were mistaken for a style of artwork(so I guess even if it is someone's style to draw a certain way it has to realistic or it's crap huh?), that the gameplay is very difficult to learn(I mastered it in about 5 minutes, are they joking?!), all amongest other things.
I'm not saying it's one of the best games ever but crap like they call it? I don't think so, far from it.
But that's me defending the character and the game, shouldn't we be discussing how the character might or might not fare against Crono? By the way, I checked for later on his best weapon in the game which winds up becoming his canon weapon(you need it to unlock the actual ending to the game)the Tsubaki MK III actually gives him the skills of a real jedi.
Travis > Jedi(in skill factor, Jedis are still cooler).
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I say Sabin! (ffVI)
He'd Blitz the hell outta Crono...
Just picture his dumbfounded face while Sabin goes all Bum Rush on his ass :twisted:
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I'd have to agree with the above post. For me it's gotta be someone out of FFVI, my second-favourite RPG after CT. Probably Sabin or Shadow.
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Dude, it's gotta be Chuck Norris. He is like the only person in the univers with such godlike powers as Crono.
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LOL... for some reason, I always confuse Chuck Norris' action films with Michael Dudikoff's these days. I immediately think of his cameo in Dodgeball, but as for his hilariously-awesome 80s stuff, I keep getting the Delta Force series mixed up with American Ninja.
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Wow, surprised this is alive again.
As for Sabin. I did my research, and... c'mon. No way! It takes a large number of FF6 guys to beat Kefka! Kefka to Lavos, Kefka's tougher, but not by a whole lot(Kefka's in the air). By the way, just to state since he was brought up earlier, I DO NOT include the towers beneath him. When I say Kefka, I mean kefka. Not Kefka and friends.
Back to the point.
Those guys barely beat beat Kefka. Kefka about 10% tougher than Lavos. Crono outright owned Lavos. ON HIS OWN.
Just from the stats of their opponents, I think it's safe to say, Sabin couldn't top Crono. Terra's tougher than that guy and she'd get creamed by Crono. Step one for proving a match with Crono - you don't get 100% obliterated instantly by the Luminaire. The character has to be able to survive.
Luminaire's tougher than Kefka(ALONE), what chance does your Sabin have now?
Chuck Norris argument, legit :lol:. Can u impr0v3 !t?
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Well, if Sabin (actually, anyone) had any holy-absorbing equipment (or that offers immunity), Luminaire as a threat is over (if such things are allowed in this, of course).
But, you still need something against his physical attacks.
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Well, we've sort of said that there shouldn't be any situational equipment going on (meaning no one has just the right equip they need to counter Crono)...unless maybe that's part of their character (like how Batman or Dr. Doom would both be retroactively prepared)...
But yeah, I could go with Sabin. Bum Rush/Illusion Battle Dance (was Woosley trying to make him sound gay?) is a very good attack that puts Sabin up there with Crono's Confuse...And with the Espers, Sabin has the ability to learn all Magics, increase his stats dramatically, and have 1 summon handy. That's pretty impressive.
Chuck Norris has already been gone over, I believe...Bruce Lee killed him in Enter the Dragon. 'nuff said.
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Hmm... I'd vote Utena Tenjou. She'd rip the rose off his chest faster than you can say 'zettai unmei mokushiroku'. What with the prince's sword and all...
If not Utena, then maybe people doing Carameldansen. Because they would drive Crono completely nuts and he'd kill himself to get the funky techno beat out of his head.
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Jesus could beat him. He didn't even need a Time Egg to revive.
No, he still needed it. Check the retranslation. :lol:
My vote's on Link, just cause that's a fight I'd like to see. Cue CT battle music, Holy arrow hits Crono in eye, Link does spin-sword attack into view, is frozen by Marle, uses lantern to get out of ice, is decimated by Luminaire. Crono uses Enertron, eye heals kinda.
But Link had a fairy, and stabs Crono in other eye with triforce while Crono's in the Enertron.
Badabing.
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I like the Crono v. Link battle. It could go on for a loooong time....
I voted for Chuck Norris back when I voted. I am pleased to see that others finally feel the same way about it. Maybe Ron Burgundy could do it, with the help of his News Team, of course.
Crono v. Ron Burgundy
Marle v. Veronica Corningstone
Robo v. Champ Kind
Magus v. Brian Fantana
Lucca v. Brick Tamlan
Frog v. Baxter
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Jesus could beat him. He didn't even need a Time Egg to revive.
No, he still needed it. Check the retranslation. :lol:
And which translation might that be?
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Jesus could beat him. He didn't even need a Time Egg to revive.
No, he still needed it. Check the retranslation. :lol:
And which translation might that be?
King James (http://chronofan.com/Black/Publications/Retranslation/Chrono%20Trigger%20Retranslation.zip)
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Jesus would lose...he's a pacifist! Heck, he'd probably choose to die against Crono so that he wouldn't have to lift his sword...he'd probably make it into a big thing about him & his dad in the end though...geeze...us...
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You think he'd even bring a sword?
As for you saying Chuck before, now Link are you saying Shee? I could(and I should)make it possible to change your vote. In fact... whether that's what your saying or not, I'm doing just that.
But um, this is a one on one fight. For awhile there was ideas of other teams going at it with the Chrono team, but if we want that, there was an older topic that transformed from one thing to just that. Can't remember what it was, I'd know it if I saw it but I'm not going through the files right now.
Point is, you wanna change your vote? Go ahead. Oh, and for the hell of it, I'll see if I can't add some of the really REALLY good options we've mentioned as well(namely Samus whom everyone agreed upon within the first 3 pages).
I added options, but I don't know how to make it possible to change one's vote if they wish... Sorry! :(
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I meant so Crono wouldn't have to lift his sword.
You should have just completely reset the poll, I think...But part of that is me not agreeing with all of the stupid popularity-over-practicality Link & Clod votes (I'm also betting some people made multiples to bump vote counts...I mean, I'm fairly sure this is the most votes of almost any poll ever at the Compendium)...and why pre-Magic god Kefka? That doesn't really make sense...I also just don't like the little comments made in the poll itself...lol
I only changed it so that you can change your vote though...
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I like the Crono v. Link battle. It could go on for a loooong time....
I voted for Chuck Norris back when I voted. I am pleased to see that others finally feel the same way about it. Maybe Ron Burgundy could do it, with the help of his News Team, of course.
Crono v. Ron Burgundy
Marle v. Veronica Corningstone
Robo v. Champ Kind
Magus v. Brian Fantana
Lucca v. Brick Tamlan
Frog v. Baxter
But you know Frog doesn't speak Spanish!
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Ron Burgundy and co. are the best choice against Crono and co. Ron has many leather-bound books and his apartment smells of rich mahogany.
Anyhow, I read through the choices--there are some good contenders--but why would anyone vote against Crono in a popularity contest that takes place at a Chrono-centered website? If it was who could take on Lavos, maybe we'd see less bias...
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Ron Burgundy and co. are the best choice against Crono and co. Ron has many leather-bound books and his apartment smells of rich mahogany.
Anyhow, I read through the choices--there are some good contenders--but why would anyone vote against Crono in a popularity contest that takes place at a Chrono-centered website? If it was who could take on Lavos, maybe we'd see less bias...
That's actually a pretty damn good idea, to be honest. I still think that Ron and co. could give 'em a lickin'!
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Serge.
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No, it's who'd put up a hell of a fight? Something that'd look interesting.
As for the Kefka situation, I don't mean pre god form, he can still be that form but I just mean the final part of that fight, the part where you fight Kefka, rather than the statues. That's actually why a number of characters we mentioned as good still aren't up there(like Ron and the gang). It's Crono VS (insert opponent here), not Crono VS an army or Crono VS everyone in the galaxy and their grandmothers.
It seems like many times the true purpose and aim of this poll has been lost despite the fact I've explained it multiple times.
One on one, regular equips as in no specifically equipped for Crono(not my idea but one that should be stuck to), not going by gameplay but by a "if they were real" standards(this should fix up Cloud & Link), god level characters are out, let's leave this to non-Chrono universe characters since we already have polls for those, and please! before suggesting someone think first "can they survive or avoid a Luminaire?" because that wipes out the majority of already mentioned.
Lastly, I would've reset the poll, but it's already come so far! And whatever the reason for all the votes, I'm happy that this is certainly the most discussed and one of the more checked out polls, so I'm keeping as is. Although I'm thinking if certain characters can't get votes soon, they're gone.
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My vote still stands with Other. I'd like to say that the Other in this specific case is Utena Tenjou.
Think about it. Equipped with nothing but the Sword of Dios (or the Prince's sword, depending on what ark she decided to fight him during) and a white rose on her chest, as well as Anthy on the line, Utena would take down Crono. She's already defeated the captain of her school's kenjo team (three times), one of the best fencers in the school (twice), his sister, the captain of the fencing team (twice), her former lover, her lesbian lover, the student council's president (twice, I believe), the student council's sister (twice, I think), her little bitch boy, her little bitch, Anthy's older brother (symbolically), some dead guy (for reals!)... that's it. But impressive. Oh, and her best friend.
Stick a rose on Crono's shirt, make him advance on Anthy... he gets owned by a girl with pink hair.
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My vote still stands with Other. I'd like to say that the Other in this specific case is Utena Tenjou.
And that's a character from...
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Title character from Revolutionary Girl Utena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Girl_Utena)--she's a feisty little firecracker.
Oh and I'm currently undecided, since I can't quantify Crono's fighting style and compare it to the others'.
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I was actually about to go on a rant about that. But you covered it nicely. I didn't rant because my browser CRASHED mid post.
Begin the education process now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4za_6-3b7LE)
Also, if you don't feel like reading the long Wikipedia article, I can tell you that Utena is the pink haired GIRL in my avatars. Not the one with the funny hair stuff. That's ChibiUsa. I hate her, but that face was AWESOME. Anyway, there's a pink haired GUY. That's Mikage. He's evil. Usually seen with Utena (as they're attached at the hip) is the darker skinned purple haired girl. That's Anthy. We can't decide if Anthy is Utena's bitch or if Utena is Anthy's bitch. But someone's a bitch. ker-plop (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?action=profile;u=828) uses Miki as his avatar. Miki is one of the best fencers in the school, and Utena has kicked his ass twice. As well as his skank of a sister, Kozue.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's already a Crono v. Serge discussion here somewhere...Serge is poorly equipped to handle someone with actual Magic at their disposal.
As for Kefka...The statues were pretty much his standard equip for not just 1/2 of the game, but for a whole friggin YEAR~!! You can't mention Kefka without the Light of Judgement...If they're out you might as well say that we have to use pre-Spekkio Crono or something...Or maybe something more appropriate would be like saying only the Lavos core, not any of the rest of Lavos...But either way, my money's on Kefka. He can fly and Ultima is just as deadly as Luminaire (if not moreso because the caster doesn't need to be at the center of it)...
And, yeah, teaflower...Maybe more people would agree with you if we were actually familiar with it...>_>
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Oh, that's Utena?! I remember her now! If that's the case, I really doubt it. Sword VS sword, hell yeah(although it would be far from easy)but with Crono's magic, Utena could still put up a hell of a fight but in the end, it's tough to top a supreme version of something. What's gonna win sword or lightning + sword?
Plus she's a fencer swordswoman, as in trained well in fighting but anything truly lethal and/or harmful not really while as Crono's sword style is clearly from the broad strikes and high speeds all about "1 HIT KILL PWNED LOLOLOLOL!"
If that isn't enough of an argument you also brought up the hair a lot and so certainly by any standards whatsoever, Crono wins in a hair contest. Specially the "Hair stab in face" contest. :lol:
As for that kefka thing, I just want to include Kefka cause he's a toughy no matter what but if he does have the Light of Judgement with him wouldn't he definetly be God class? Then he'd have to be revoked.
My vote goes to Ryu now by the way. I think that'd be the most intense and worthy fight.
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Wow, surprised this is alive again.
As for Sabin. I did my research, and... c'mon. No way! It takes a large number of FF6 guys to beat Kefka! Kefka to Lavos, Kefka's tougher, but not by a whole lot(Kefka's in the air). By the way, just to state since he was brought up earlier, I DO NOT include the towers beneath him. When I say Kefka, I mean kefka. Not Kefka and friends.
Back to the point.
Those guys barely beat beat Kefka. Kefka about 10% tougher than Lavos. Crono outright owned Lavos. ON HIS OWN.
Just from the stats of their opponents, I think it's safe to say, Sabin couldn't top Crono. Terra's tougher than that guy and she'd get creamed by Crono. Step one for proving a match with Crono - you don't get 100% obliterated instantly by the Luminaire. The character has to be able to survive.
Luminaire's tougher than Kefka(ALONE), what chance does your Sabin have now?
Chuck Norris argument, legit :lol:. Can u impr0v3 !t?
So that rules out most everybody. Crono's luminare Maxed out is devistatting no matter who you are. I also have to say Link could come out of the attack unscathed with Naru's love seeing how both are considdered to be devine. I have stated somthing similar to this before in one of my earlier posts so I will stat my perspective of Luminare again
Luminare: Ultimate holy damage on all enemies (Japanese Translation). This means the Tech is what I would call a devine Tech meaning It has priority to all other attacks except other devine attacks and counters. meaning if someone casted a normal reflect spell Luminare will still strike. Barriers mean nothing you take full damage. If Crono can see you he can hit you with Luminare. Crono's Luminare Differs from Serge's in the fact that Serge dose not have any magic abilities and can olny cast Luminare at quarter strength because he olny uses Chi, where as Crono has axcess to Heven Magic and Can put the magical properties in Luminare making it more devistating in all ways.
Naru's love obviosly is a devine shild move. if a blessing from a god to give protection is not the perfect example of a devine sheild I don't know what is
I also noticed that some one wondeded what Crono's fighting style is like. My guess is that it is a tactical speed based with some power behind it. I like to compare this type of style to Goku's Early form in DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 which is reletivly fast and can uses the vast amount of moves given to combo to do tons of damage. I have compared Confuse to Gokus counter attack: when you guard you can enter a counter stance which uses a ki blow then you can press the normal attack button to have him apear behind your opponent to attack and send him flying three times. I compare this to Confuse because of the amount of speed, except add after images to the mix. Crono whould start off using techs like lightning, Luminare and slash to get out quick attacks on his enemy then move in closer using other techs that would fit mid range and then going in with a cleave to combo into confuse or cyclone them back up while opponent is dazed to cast Luminare again. and muve about the range of the field as he pleases to rackup damage and pull off fast combos.
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If Crono can see you he can hit you with Luminare.
Now that you bring that up, a thought occured. If Crono had Byakugan(from Naruto, like at Neji's level), even if someone Goku flew way off, honestly there would be no avoiding! Crono would be all powerful! So I guess his limited sight range is all that keeps him from being at god-level! :lol: :shock:
With Nayru's Love, yeah Link could definetly survive. The main reason though is that Crono has the speed advantage. And unlike Link's Pegasus Boots(which nto every version of Link has), Crono doesn't just go in one direction with that speed(which he's about equal to). Crono can control his speed. Top this off with the fact the only Link that has a decent amount of sword fighting techniques to stand a chance against Crono and his barrage of moves(NOT including Confuse)is Twilight Princess Link. But that Link also has nowhere near as much equipment as some of the past Link's have. Way I see it, Link is a wothy match but the only one that really is a competitor is the one from A Link To The Past. Not only does that Link have more items than most of the others, an average amoutn of sword moves(nothing to brag about though), but the main factor to bring up is that out of all the Links he's the only one that actually got at the end the full power 100% use of the Triforce. He not only had Courage at his disposal, he also had the Wisdom AND Power parts! In other words, that Link's got gods on his side.
I had someone else in mind to bring up, but I forgot who.
If anyone can think of anything else or find anything else, great! Any sort of thing related to matchups with Crono at this point are well appreciated since that's all that's left here!
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Vahn, from LOL.
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Vahn, from LOL.
lol I am playing that right now actually. In sol Tower about to go to the basement levels. Just need items after facing Gaza.
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No Spoilers but:
The next boss is a real pain. level up a few times, and absorb spoon before you go.. =D
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No Spoilers but:
The next boss is a real pain. level up a few times, and absorb spoon before you go.. =D
I know I have gotton to the boss where you have 5 turns to win. THAT one is a PAIN in the ass. I gave up and later found out that all data on my card got currupted and had to delete everything...Chrono Trigger, FF7/9 Megaman X4,5,6 Monster rancher 1 and 2 Threads of fate. and MegaMan 8. all lost I was so far on all that day I wept for three hours and felt
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Wait, are you joking? Vahn from LOL? I'm not sure. I googled it, yahoo, everything. I'm getting nothing. I got one game called LOL but nothing on it has any Vahn.
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Wait, are you joking? Vahn from LOL? I'm not sure. I googled it, yahoo, everything. I'm getting nothing. I got one game called LOL but nothing on it has any Vahn.
Legend of Legaia- PS1 RPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_Legaia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_Legaia)
Love the games, but I am not a fan of the slow-paced battle.
I choose Dart from Legend of Dragoon, he is badass when he transform especially in Divine Dragon form.
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Wait, are you joking? Vahn from LOL? I'm not sure. I googled it, yahoo, everything. I'm getting nothing. I got one game called LOL but nothing on it has any Vahn.
Duh it's Land of teh Lost! :lol:
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Oh! Yeah I know that. Not sure if could win but good match yeah! Definetly!
As for Dart, he can get pretty powerful. Not 100% sure if he could beat but as for a match... I dunno. I'll get back to you. I remember playing it once but that was loooooooooooooong ago. I have to play it again. As soon as I get another copy(borrowed from me Grandpa. He's got awesome game collection AND was the one who introduced me to both Chrono Trigger AND Chrono Cross!)...
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Goku'd kick the crap out of him...but then again, DBZ is one of those shows where the characters become too powerful, so its not interesting anymore.
I think I might've misunderstood the question when I made my vote though.
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I think Son Goku was put on God-level sometime around page 10 or something...idk why he's even still on the list...It wouldn't be a worthy match because he'd utterly destroy Crono.
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No Spoilers but:
The next boss is a real pain. level up a few times, and absorb spoon before you go.. =D
I know I have gotton to the boss where you have 5 turns to win. THAT one is a PAIN in the ass. I gave up and later found out that all data on my card got currupted and had to delete everything...Chrono Trigger, FF7/9 Megaman X4,5,6 Monster rancher 1 and 2 Threads of fate. and MegaMan 8. all lost I was so far on all that day I wept for three hours and felt
Balls it man!
right now, Im working on my 3rd playthrough of legaia... HOWEVER this time I'm doing a PERFECT Game:
at the end of the game there is a stats screen saying how much treasure you got, how many deaths each character took, how many kills each character made, how many times you ran away, how many magic spells you got, etc.
So: I am doing no deaths, no runs, 100% treasure, and all magics
after completing those: I am going to get to level 99 with all characters and level 9 with all magics. Then THAT will be the perfect game.
100% treasure was, quite recently, considered a fact to be impossible, because it was accepted that there were 2 treasures that could never be gotten.. just because of how the game was made. This was proven wrong only recently when a guy named "meth" at the Legaia board over at gamefaqs (which I go to regularly, one of the few good ones left at that site) was making a treasure checklist, trying to list all 258 treasures, and using a cheat device similar to gameshark to help forward his efforts, accidently figured out that 258 treasures was just a fluke! The first known 100% treasure playthrough known was done within the last two years...
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I think Son Goku was put on God-level sometime around page 10 or something...idk why he's even still on the list...It wouldn't be a worthy match because he'd utterly destroy Crono.
I don't know about utterly destroy. But in all restrospect, yeah he'd destroy Crono. Not without Crono putting up a fight, but it wouldn't be anything truly interesting considering how short it'd be.
I think I might've misunderstood the question when I made my vote though.
Yeah, that's why the list was changed and everyone got that revote chance. Almost everyone took it as "Who could pulverize our spiky haired friend?" when what we're going for is "Who could give Crono a run for his money? Who could truly not absolutely destroy him but still drive him close to the corner and vice versa, an almost equal to him?"
Y'know how everyone has their Mario VS Sonic and Link VS Cloud. Who's good and close like that for Crono?
EDIT: Looking back, I see my personal vote and what I think is Ryu from Breath Of Fire. Most notably the second or third, although first is also good. 4th, meh. 5th? NO. I think he'd be the most epic battle for Crono here, but it's not to consider loads of other possibilities. :)
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Goku can fly and teleport...I'm sorry, but Crono would be toast...The only way he'd have a chance would be because Goku would be playing with him at first. His only shot would be hoping that Luminaire hit and was somehow more powerful than everything else Goku has survived through...
Only if it turned out Crono was a Saijin...
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Goku can fly and teleport...I'm sorry, but Crono would be toast...The only way he'd have a chance would be because Goku would be playing with him at first. His only shot would be hoping that Luminaire hit and was somehow more powerful than everything else Goku has survived through...
Only if it turned out Crono was a Saijin...
I smell fanfic fodder! Hey if Lavos then Sajin! Yippy for bad leaps in logic!!!
I have taken sometime to think and realised that Crono shall now fight a random set of battles and I will determine the winner. (Yes I'm pulling these out of nowhere, but before you question I have given these serious thought)
Sakura from CardCaptors Sakura (Manga)....winner?......SAKURA! She's got powerful magic, A sword that can cut anything, and she's a cute little girl (adding confusion to the mix as Crono wonders if it's wrong to beat up on a cute little girl in a custom dress by her obvious lesbion lolita loving friend! WHO IS ALSO A LITTLE GIRL! It's Clamp....)
Death from Diskworld!.....winner....DEATH! (.....) because he's Death, he's awesome! Oh and you can't really kill him...oh and he does have a Sword that can cut through pretty much anything to....I swear I'll come up with a practical figth soon...maybe...
Chi Chi from Dragon Ball.....winner....trick question I said Dragon Ball where she was actully able to fight....oh anyway it's Crono, he had to win one!
Yukino from His and Her Circumstances...winner....YUKINO...because I am a jerk and a cruel god! Kidding Chrono cause she's just a school girl with no magical powers or figthing ablities!
Etna from Disgaea1,2, and 3!....winner Etna!!!!! Because the level cap in freakin Disgaea is 9999 and Etna is awesome!
Um Crono from Chrono Trigger and the winner is Crono? -_-'
a Jack Frost from pretty much every Shin Megami Tensei game (and it's spinoffs) and the winner is Jack frost because I bribed Chrono with large sums of money ^^
Ok most of these are jokes....but either Sakura or Etna could actully win, btu it would be a real fight. Death would be insanly unfair. I have no Idea why I said Chi Chi or Yukino...and Crono vs Crono is a given...Jack Frost would lose....poor Jack Frost :(
Oh and Ryu from Breath of Fire vs Crono would be awesome! although I find myself pondering Sakura (CCS) vs Crono....hmmmmm I think I just had a completely absurd fanfic idea...
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Only if it turned out Crono was a Saijin...
FOOL! Super Sajin 4 Gogeta has red spiky hair and a monkey tail! Crono's got red spiky hair! We just need to see if he has a tail! And looking at his mother's sprite, I'd say SHE IS CHI CHI! GOKU IS HIS FATHER! AND HE IS THEIR 4TH SON! Goku and the gang just happened to be out on their own adventure on Pluto when Crono went time traveling. Goku must've been pissed when he came back to find his home in shambles and Crono missing.
Whoops... :mrgreen:
Lucca is secretly Arale in a more grown up design. Luminaire is just Crono's Kamehameha burst out a little incorrectly. Goku left and didn't have time to teach Crono how to do it properly. Lavos is just the accidental badguy getting away during Goku, Gohan, and Goten's adventure.
MWA HA HA HA!
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Would it sound absurd if I told you that that wasn't the most out of left field explanation I've heard?
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No. That wasn't my worst. That was a 3/10. :twisted:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/greyring/CRONOVSRYU.png)
Crono VS Ryu start. That's my idea in sprite form.
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I'd go for Link... but he has to be well equipped: Ether Medallion, Bombos Medallion, Quake Medallion, both staffs, Ice Rod, Fire Rod, Deity Mask... and of course, the lvl 4 Master Sword (golden). I wonder which would break first, the Dreamseeker or the Master Sword?
Assuming Link can find a place in his leather belt to put all that bullshit, he could have a chance. Then again, there are variables with the other characters as well. Mario could do it if he had infinite Stars, Sonic could do it if he had more than 50 rings and became Super Sonic, etc... Crono doesn't really have a special ability to become invincible to everything like Mario and Sonic have.
Of course there are some characters in video game history that could not beat Crono, no matter the circumstances... Sory, Donald, and Goofy come to mind.
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ONSLAUGHT:
Thank you finally someone gets the asowme-ness of confuse I still think the move can be compared to Goku (early)/(Mid(normal))/(End (normals tate))'s teleport guard counter attack. It can be proformed by guarding then pressing O or pressing O during your rush attacks, and then hit square three times rapidly causing him to teleport directly behind the opponent and hit them not even a second later this happens three times(if you pressed square 3x) giving no room of excape from the combo. other characters can do it but not as many times as a non Ssj goku. (I like to use (early) I think he's one of the best fighters out there seeing he has all the Triangle attacks (ki blast, tripple kick, ect.) after a cirtain amt. of rush attacks. /ki blast also goes into the teleport attack combo mentioned above. (Budokai Tenkaichi 3. ) So assuming that crono can do this and slash more than four times if he either wants to be flashy/show offy or wants to go all out. he can decimate any one. now picture confuse as a counter attack and crono having the 'Frenzy Band' on Ike would not stand a chance
Also if you wanted to know Luminare's unedited dicription reads Ultimate Holy damage on all enemies. so basically its a Devine attack meaning its all powerful, gets priority, barriers and defenses mean jack squat, and nothing can trump it. to put it simply the attack is unbeatable and can harm gods.
Crono could beat any DBZ character with ease seeing as he would not wait 5-35 or so episides and give them the chance to power up. we all know that it feels like it takes that long for Goku to go Ssj 1 & 4. so Crono would just charge and hack them to pieces as soon as they start to power up.
I have stated this before, Crono is FAST. and he has a sword goku would have to dodge a lot and would not be able to get in the powerful hits needed to be able to beat crono.
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I have seen many fights in real life, and never has anyone ever "charged" or "powered up" in front of me.
I thought it was cool in middle school, but "powering up" really makes absolutely NO sense.
If you try doing what they do in that show, you'll do one of two things.
1. Burst a blood vessel.
2. Shit yourself.
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I have seen many fights in real life, and never has anyone ever "charged" or "powered up" in front of me.
I thought it was cool in middle school, but "powering up" really makes absolutely NO sense.
If you try doing what they do in that show, you'll do one of two things.
1. Burst a blood vessel.
2. Shit yourself.
Or get beaten into a bloody pulp before you can do anything
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lets think on this.
lavos? crono beat him singlehandedly.
magus? easier than lavos!
king zeal? we all saw crimson echoes.
hmm.
link? perhaps.
my vote is ayla as she shows up in crimson echoes. she would kick some serious crono butt.
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I now reckon that the only thing that can beat Crono is Crono. Or someone with swine flu, perhaps.
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I'm surprised that neither Grimmjow or Rock Lee were mentioned in this poll.
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thats because we all know that theyd kick cronos ass, along with this franky guy.
and king zeal would kick his ass in a badassery contest.
:lee: :grimm :franky :kz
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Penguins could kick his ass, no problem. They are ninjas.
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Penguins are just silly Disgaea grenades.
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They could still destroy Crono.
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BUT would they be a "worthy match"?
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I swear I've posted here like 5 times and it hasn't put squat of my messages up...
Anyway.
Thank you Bekkler.
Yes that is what is seeked here. It's no fun if something is capable of completely decimating your hero. It also doesn't look good if your bragging about how your favorite character can get his ass handed to him on a silver platter by someone(if they fall in that category, somethings up then going in here).
Ayla. I believe somewhere we said besides Chrono characters(although even if they were included that's like the other comment saying Magus could take Crono, even though Crono outright proved himself the better). And as for the whole Crimson Echoes version of Ayla. You're right. She's definetly superior to Crono. Wheras Zeal paralyzed Crono, Ayla went in a kicked the crap out of him. Nothing happened like her coming within an inch of losing her life. Sorry, I'm sorry, couldn't resist. Being synical is fun and I don't get to do it often enough.
Swine flu? Really? Argh. NOT THAT BAD. I know someone with it, and they vouged that it's no worse than catching the flu. It sucks, yeah totally. Is it extremely lethal and contagious as everyone thinks it is? No. About as lethal a sore throat(capable of killing too, it's just that like with swine flu, your body and systems have to be pretty weak to actually die from it), and it's about as contagious as AIDS(avoid that with condoms, in this case actually be healthy like wash hands, bathe, etc and you're fine). Not to mention a vaccine is already close to finish. I know something that protects you from it if you don't have it already exists. How many diseases have we gotten that people have panicked about simply because the media overhypes how dangerous it is?
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Honestly, I reckon Crono is actually indestructible. I mean, look at what he achieved. He proved that he could take down an alien parasite by himself. So, honestly, nothing would be a worthy match for him. I'm not looking for any kind of argument.
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Normally I'd agree but as we all know, Crono ain't alone in the category. (Ain't the first either, 2nd. Samus is the original)
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Maybe a Prinny! Would destroy Crono when it explodes lol :picardno
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A Tonberry!
(http://noreset.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/9-tonberry-a.jpg)
Huh? what's this?
*Doink*
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Wait! Instead of a Tonberry, a Cactuar!
1000 Needles. End of story.
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I dunno...we've certainly established that Cloud can't hold a feather to Crono. Cloud can take a Cactaur, so wouldn't Crono obliterate that thing too?
I think the Tonberry's more likely since, well, yeah...
Huh? what's this?
*Doink*
Nice to see this thread alive again though! Yay!
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Bayonetta !!!
She could take down crono ....well maybe she couldn't be it would be a fight which is good on the eyes :oops:
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Yeah, assuming I'm thinking of the same character, I think she'd put up a great fight with Crono! Win against him? I dunno, that's arguable(being the fan I am I'd say no, but hey! That's just me).
But I suppose she's also good... I'm iffy mostly since like I said, I'm not 100% positive I'm thinking the same character.
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Yeah, assuming I'm thinking of the same character, I think she'd put up a great fight with Crono! Win against him? I dunno, that's arguable(being the fan I am I'd say no, but hey! That's just me).
But I suppose she's also good... I'm iffy mostly since like I said, I'm not 100% positive I'm thinking the same character.
Don't undecided voters use the same manner of speech?
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Yeah, assuming I'm thinking of the same character, I think she'd put up a great fight with Crono! Win against him? I dunno, that's arguable(being the fan I am I'd say no, but hey! That's just me).
But I suppose she's also good... I'm iffy mostly since like I said, I'm not 100% positive I'm thinking the same character.
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9496/bayonettawallpapergame.th.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/bayonettawallpapergame.jpg/)
This character ? :P
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OK, yes I was thinking of that character.
Yeah, assuming I'm thinking of the same character, I think she'd put up a great fight with Crono! Win against him? I dunno, that's arguable(being the fan I am I'd say no, but hey! That's just me).
But I suppose she's also good... I'm iffy mostly since like I said, I'm not 100% positive I'm thinking the same character.
Don't undecided voters use the same manner of speech?
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I am not amused.
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:shock:
I don't see Cidolfas Orlandu, the ThunderGod himself, on that list, one of the most broken characters in a videogame, and he's 60!
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:shock:
I don't see Cidolfas Orlandu, the ThunderGod himself, on that list, one of the most broken characters in a videogame, and he's 60!
Seconded! :D
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Tonberries are too slow for the Cro.
And how are we adding characters from games that aren't even out yet? Bayonetta would have a good chance though...she's like constantly killing angels, she's got gun heels...and naked magic!!! I'm afraid Crono might be taken down somewhat akin to having Naruto's sexy jutsu used on him or something...>_>
I think we should make a list of those god-class characters because Orlandu definitely fits that bill (hell, his nickname actually HAS the word "god" in it!)...His friggin default sword gives him constant Haste for Schala's sake!
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Tonberries are too slow for the Cro.
Okay. Let's pretend they're fast. Now let's pretend that Crono gets Doink!ed sooner.
Have you ever tried to take down a Tonberry? Not a Sunday picnic, I can assure you.
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I think his point was about Crono Luminareing the Tornberry to death as he ran circles around him. I agree it's a very daunting enemy in the games you face it, but mostly because you have nowhere to run.
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Yeah, and they have varying difficulties depending on which FF it is...Remember when Woosley called them "Pugs"? lol
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A Tonberry!
(http://noreset.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/9-tonberry-a.jpg)
Huh? what's this?
*Doink*
Doink is also what the Law and Order sound is called. Don't ask how I know that.
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A Tonberry!
(http://noreset.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/9-tonberry-a.jpg)
Huh? what's this?
*Doink*
i agree.....TOMBERRY RULES!!!..... :D
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I still think the Cactuar would be better. Unlike Tonberries, Cactuar have speed.
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I still think the Cactuar would be better. Unlike Tonberries, Cactuar have speed.
Yeah, except Cactuars don't kill you in one hit, and that's the comical beauty behind the Tonberry's attack style (as it's confuzzled all the while):
BLAM! Step.
SPELL! Step.
BLAM! Step.
SUMMON! Step.
(Repeat ad nauseum until...)
a) it dies.
b) you die.
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I still think the Cactuar would be better. Unlike Tonberries, Cactuar have speed.
Yeah, except Cactuars don't kill you in one hit, and that's the comical beauty behind the Tonberry's attack style (as it's confuzzled all the while):
BLAM! Step.
SPELL! Step.
BLAM! Step.
SUMMON! Step.
(Repeat ad nauseum until...)
a) it dies.
b) you die.
Unless you use Psycho Cyan on one of the FFVI ones in which case b) happens and then a) happens, hooray!
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Honestly, Batman could beat up anybody on the list.
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Only in DC Universe
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Reading back over this entire insane thread prompted other thoughts which eventually lead to one possible conclusion:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/haymansbeard/RrFjIKI8alI/AAAAAAAAAIA/qdLAFy711uo/Jules+Winffield+Large.JPG)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czb4jn5y94g
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Only if it turned out Crono was a Saijin...
FOOL! Super Sajin 4 Gogeta has red spiky hair and a monkey tail! Crono's got red spiky hair! We just need to see if he has a tail! And looking at his mother's sprite, I'd say SHE IS CHI CHI! GOKU IS HIS FATHER! AND HE IS THEIR 4TH SON! Goku and the gang just happened to be out on their own adventure on Pluto when Crono went time traveling. Goku must've been pissed when he came back to find his home in shambles and Crono missing.
Whoops... :mrgreen:
Lucca is secretly Arale in a more grown up design. Luminaire is just Crono's Kamehameha burst out a little incorrectly. Goku left and didn't have time to teach Crono how to do it properly. Lavos is just the accidental badguy getting away during Goku, Gohan, and Goten's adventure.
MWA HA HA HA!
just read this post and can only say one thing...Gogeta SSJ4 is Crono's father. this explains why no one can hold a candle to him, he's the son of the ultimate fusion...then luminare would problably be a variation of the big bang kamehamehax100. this would explain a lot but again we need to see the tail.
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Goku, mainly because he's the only one who can truly match Crono's hair.
I felt like saying Master Chief, but honestly, the only thing that could take out Crono would be the Spartan Laser.
Now, if you gave Chief a magical sword and holy magic, then he would rip Crono apart.
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You see, that's why we tried to set some ground rules...In that scenario you could also say that you could make Crono a Spartan and then he would once again trounce the Chief...Would a Spartan Laser count as Shadow damage? Would the Energy Sword? Hmmm...lol
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Goku is THE MAN.
Not even Crono can defeat this super hairdo.
(http://api.ning.com/files/PTuSbf2zDMZjVdG8WdJ1Z5EN-gzPM8x5XtUlMcYJFDelQX12QeMREEGmttpRP2h-97gPhG3wHsj-sYXJD*MNJqVl035TsGKx/goku_ssj.jpg)
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Just be glad that Crono hasn't been to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber yet. That'd be the kind of thing that'd make Vegeta go, "Well, shit."
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I still think Goku is more powerful... he could have destroyed the whole Porre army if he wanted to :P And if he gets killed, he always come back, eventually, way stronger than he was before :lol:
I love Pacman description in the poll, lol. That should be the name of the ultimate Chrono enemy, Lavos last form: "The Devourer of Everything"! *Comes out a giant Pacman* :P
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But Crono, Marle and Lucca eventually become ghosts in Chrono Cross. Pac-Man's one weakness.
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But Crono, Marle and Lucca eventually become ghosts in Chrono Cross. Pac-Man's one weakness.
:lol: ha ha ha You're right! then it tides up lovely with the story! let us hope for the future of the universe that Pacman-lavos can't find the giant cherry hidden between dimensions.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/licawolf/pacman_the_devourer_of_everything.jpg)
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ME.
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DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA-
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1866/1226054513847md9.jpg)
And if that doesn't work...
(http://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/1/19/Dakkatitan.jpg/746px-Dakkatitan.jpg)
Never enough dakka.
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I am of the humble opinion that the only thing capable of being a worthy match for Crono... is Marle. Consider this: Crono is willing to do anything for his girl. Go back in time? Done. Go on suicide mission against space porcupine? Done. Get blasted by space porcupine? Done. If we were to eliminate Marle from the picture, Crono would have no motivation. He would go see Lucca's little slideshow, go home, get old and fat, and ultimately the world would blow up.
Alternatively, Marle could just pull up her shirt and she'd have a flawless victory, but either or.
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It would at least explain why everyone who gives Crono lines in a Flash movie makes him think more with his crotch than anything else.
Marle: "Will you go and save the world with me?"
Crono: "No."
Marle: *flashes*
Crono- *five seconds after* "Done."
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Revival!
So no one mentioned him, and all Marle jokes aside...
Ness. Totally Ness. He can destroy cars and trucks with a single swing of his baseball bat, use psychic powers, not to mention the entire Earth's power, and he defeated an entity made of pure evil energy. Don't take him for granted because he comes from 8) Earthbound! Yeaaaaaaaaaa
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That's one of my favorite snes games. Couldn't get too into Mother 3, though I don't know why (the translation is wonderful and it captures the same "feel" as Earthbound/Mother2 even though it's fan made and the plot, setting, and characters are completely different).
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It was only the English translation that was fanmade. I've heard lots of people saying they couldn't get into Mother 3 because it didn't feel the same as Earthbound. However, I did and have beat it twice. Let me tell you, that was the only video game that actually got me to tear up before I played Trigger (when You-Know-Who sacrificed themselves to Lavos) only this time, no revivals for both of the people who get killed. :(
For those who haven't: I highly recommend playing Earthbound and/or Mother 3. They had the same magnitude of effect on me as Trigger did, just in case you thought no other game could. ;)
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Something of note is that, however strange the coincidence may be, in both the MOTHER series and the Chrono series, you fight all-powerful Lovecraftian rejects, and at some point in both series, you have to defeat those creatures with a song. So I imagine that, at least mechanically, Crono probably couldn't beat Giygas, but in a funny way, Serge, who is widely regarded by many as his inferior, would have the means to do so, what with the Chrono Cross being a few musical notes, albeit ones of great power.
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Well, Gygas was only defeated (the first time around) with a specific song, not the singing itself. So I'd say the Serge of Radical Dreamers would be a more suitable candidate than the Chrono Cross Serge, due to being a wandering musician.