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Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => Polling => Topic started by: nightmare975 on June 27, 2008, 03:10:41 pm
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So Square has had a couple of series go off without a sequel in some time. Some of these could be in need of a remake. My question is, what do you think deserves a remake/sequel?
Also note there is no Chrono option, I know this is a forum about Chrono, but I want to see what other games you guys would want.
Info for games.
Square's Tom Sawyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square%27s_Tom_Sawyer
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/rom-pit/squares-tom-sawyer.php
Bahamut Lagoon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut_Lagoon
Live A Live
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_A_Live
Super Mario RPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_RPG:_Legend_of_the_Seven_Stars
Treasure of the Rudras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_of_the_Rudras
Vagrant Story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagrant_Story
The Bouncer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bouncer
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Super Mario RPG had a spiritual successor in the Paper Mario Series, but never a direct sequel, so that might be cool.
Otherwise I voted for a Vagrant Story sequel. It was a very unique game and I enjoyed the item creation aspect, though it took me a while to really get the Risk system down to a science. I think it would be cool to play a sequel, though they might not be able to be a direct sequel, maybe a sequel in gameplay at least.
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I picked Live A Live, the game had eight distinct stories plus a final one that tied everything together. It'd be cool to have a remake or even a sequel for it.
Come on, they don't make games like that anymore.
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Never played Live A Live. Heck, I do not think I even played any of the games on the list except the two I already mentioned. Guess I need to broaden my horizons.
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Tom Sawyer was just a licensed title...I doubt they still have the rights to it...nor should they...it was just another lame 8-Bit platformer in a sea of "I wish this was Super Mario"s.
While it getting a remake is nice 'n' all, I think most fans REALLY wanted a SEQUEL to FFTactics. And, no, the FFTA series doesn't count...I don't blame 'em, since the project head behind FFT & Vagrant Story left, I believe, but whatever...
Bahamut Lagoon was alright, but there are already far better SRPGs available...I'd rather they just stick w/the FFT series.
I voted for Live-a-Live, however, as it's by far the best Square game that never got an (official) English translation. A DS remake would be godly...a sequel...might just end up like the SaGa Frontiers...>_<
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Vagrant Story for sure. That game was so great...
Then Super Mario RPG. That's a close second. I like the Paper Mario series and all, but it just isn't as good...
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I also voted Vagrant Story. To me, that awesome ending just screamed for a sequel, and I could never understand why Square would let such a unique IP just fizzle out. If Ashley's still the main character with those shapeshifting abilities, there could be interesting gameplay possibilities.
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Vagrant Story, although RnH(Treasure of the Rudras) gets a close second in my book.
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No love for Xenogears? For shame.
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How true. My guess is Nightmare left out Xenogears because of the existence of Xenosaga; but the way Saga turned out just left me wanting more of the Gears series as it was originally intended to be when Takahashi wrote Perfect Works.
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I voted other for a few reasons:
Threads of Fate, an awesome action RPG for the PS1 that I thought was exteremely overlooked.
Thousand Arms, same as the above, except turn based.
Legend of Dragoon, now that I look back I'm not entirely sure if it was SquareSoft, but it deserves a sequel.
Parasite Eve, Action/Shooter/RPG about a hot scantily clad blonde chick fighting mutants. Case Closed.
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Parasite Eve has a sequel...and it's also getting another sequel called The 3rd Birthday...
And no, Legend of Dragoon was not Square. I believe it was just SCEA.
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Parasite Eve has a sequel...and it's also getting another sequel called The 3rd Birthday...
And no, Legend of Dragoon was not Square. I believe it was just SCEA.
I was aware of the sequel, but I had no idea about the third installment. Also, I think a movie came out around the same time FF: The Waste-of-Money Within cam out.
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I only selected games that have not gotten any form of a sequel or remake.
Xenogears had Xenosaga, regretfully.
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I would love to see Live-A-Live get released outside of Japan either for DS or PSP (too bad GBA is dead =/)...
As for non-Square-Enix series, I would love to see Atlus' Shin Megami Tensei I and II for SNES remade for DS or PSP and released outside of Japan...
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Now that I think about it, a Tom Sawyer RPG sounds really entertaining.
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Tom Sawyer as an RPG would be lame cause the censors would never let the n-bomb pass their filters...>_<
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Tom Sawyer as an RPG would be lame cause the censors would never let the n-bomb pass their filters...>_<
"Could you pass the oar, N-word Joe?"
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Rad Racer FTW
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Super Mario RPG all the way
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Wierd that I hear about this, I'm not saying where but I'm in a discussion of Huck Finn, and we're discussing the racism of it. And then I find this, Tom Sawyer video game? Wierd, but of course it doesn't look that good anyways, both gameplay and certainly makes for a book but not a game story, and definetly the racist part of it can't happen.
It's very ironic that the stories are mocking racism making it look foolish, and yet when they made this game they make Jim in the most racial fashion possible. So, they had the writer is someone making fun of african stereotypes and the visual designer is someone who is clearly racist if they are making him in a blackface fashion. I have to put out there, after looking at that blackface photo, that is something that really scares me. Seriously, I can barely stand to look at that picture. It's inaccuracy, clearly they were going for nothing short of a monstrous look because that looks more like a monster than a human, bastards.
Anyways, on topic I'd have to say believe it or not Radiata Stories. I haven't played Vagrant Story yet(for the longest time I was convinced the main character was a very manly looking woman and I didn't even know it was an RPG!), and Super Mario RPG is a close one, but considering how well done the Paper Mario series is, I'm pretty sure tey wouldn't be able to pull off the same magic touch with it. Thousand Year Door was different in gameplay but had the same enjoyability but I don't see them doing it again.
Radiata Stories I just really enjoyed and felt like there wasn't as much to it once you finished. Certainly it was neat how in the hidden world they had so many legendary opponents, gods, and a ridiculous number of cameos in it, but it still was short in the end. Especially the way someone(not saying who)died suddenly. There wasn't anything afterward to make it just. It could've been necessary to beat the bad guy, maybe bring them back anyway, or maybe(for the first time ever)have the bad guy outright win(and I don't mean Star Wars way with them winning but later on good guys come back)since that would at least show why they were killed cause the guy was so freaking strong?
I really enjoyed the gameplay, the story was good and I enjoyed how it in a good way combined the elements of Majora's Mask(time thing) and Suikoden(practically everyone you see is recruitable)and the funnest(and funniest)thing totally original, kick absolutely anyone time and time again and eventually they get mad to the point where you get to fight them so really if you don't feel like leveling up through story, monster encounters(which are done in the same way Chrono Cross + Kingdom Hearts as well!), or missions or such things then you can just kick people!
I know it sounds like it has a combination of other game's qualities but it manages to combine them in a unique and very well done way! I personally would love to see another game of it(or at least my old copy which my brother lent to his girlfriend and although I got Kingdom hearts back which he also lent i never did get Radiata back...)!
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I think racism in Japan isn't as big a thing as the States (or wherever white & black people are) or something...Maybe it's an out-of-sight, out-of-mind sort of thing? Wasn't there an incredibly black stereotype boss in the new Megaman 9? Tarbaby Man or something? Then again, with sprites it's difficult to accurately display the nuances of any individual race...
Rad Racer FTW
Rad Racer had a sequel too! The original was better as I recall...I forget...>_< Has Square touched that genre since? Besides as a mini-game?
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I don't think that this is Square, but back in the day they made an Akira text-based (like Radical Dreamers) game for the NES.
With the rumor of a live-action Akira movie (squeals) could we possibly see a game in the near future...?
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I'll say Vagrant Story, I love what I've played of it so far. Still gotta try out a few on the list.
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Fun Fact: Paper Mario was originally Super Mario RPG 2. I've seen videos.
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I think racism in Japan isn't as big a thing as the States (or wherever white & black people are) or something...Maybe it's an out-of-sight, out-of-mind sort of thing? Wasn't there an incredibly black stereotype boss in the new Megaman 9? Tarbaby Man or something? Then again, with sprites it's difficult to accurately display the nuances of any individual race...
The Black population of Japan is less than one tenth of one percent. That's probably why you don't see them in many Japanese games. However, the Japanese have always had something of a xenophobic streak, and there's even a minority group that they pointlessly oppress to this very day.
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I voted for Mario because it was the only one of those games I'd heard of...don't hate, don't hate.
But a Tom Sawyer game does sound fun, I think Huck Finn would have been better. I still remember we spent an entire 50 minute class period on the first sentence of Huck Finn. "You don't know about me without you have read a book by the name of The Adventures of Tom Sawyer; but that ain't no matter." A fictional character (Huck), making a reference to himself in another fictional character's book (Tom Saweyer), written by a man with a fictional name (Twain/Clemens).
But yea I voted for Mario...
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Seiken Densetsu series. I'm sick of handheld remakes and ports for this series. Something like Legend of Mana only greater needs to be done.
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I voted for Mario because it was the only one of those games I'd heard of...don't hate, don't hate.
You should at least check out the other 3 that have been voted for: Live-a-Live, Vagrant Story & Bahamut Lagoon...You'll need to get a emu for Live-a-Live & Bahamut Lagoon (I think most ROMs should be prepatched by now), but VS is a great PSX game. One of the better action/adventure-based RPG battle systems...You get to target specific points on the enemy's body, sweet...!
Seiken Densetsu series. I'm sick of handheld remakes and ports for this series. Something like Legend of Mana only greater needs to be done.
And again, I'm fairly sure this is mostly for games that didn't get sequels...but I still say that they need to remake SD3 for us. Nerf the drop rates for the final job class & equip (and/or make them limit what you get to who you have in your party at least!)...
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Fun Fact: Paper Mario was originally Super Mario RPG 2. I've seen videos.
Common knowledge for one who's been to sites like Super Mario RPG Legacy (http://smrpglegacy.com/), which, if I recall, (Got the link from a Google. The site is blocked :cry:) has coverage not only on Super Mario RPG, but Paper Mario an Mario & Luigi.
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Though Vagrant Story never got a sequel, I was always amused that it took place in the same world as FFXII and parts of it (both locations and story) were referenced in the game if you look closely enough.
Another note I got while reading the thread: While Xenosaga is the spiritual successor to Xenogears it is not an actual sequal. Square still owns the rights to Xenogears and could make an actual sequal to it if they so chose (of course it would be a slap in the face of the creator who left Square).
I voted for Super Mario RPG because I found it refreshingly original when it was released and brought me a lot of enjoyment. Culex was a nice touch.
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I've only played SM:RPG and thoroughly enjoyed it. Not as enthralled with the Paper Mario series, although I don't mind them.
I did briefly play Vagrant Story but couldn't get into it.
So my vote goes to Super Mario.
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Rad Racer. That game was awesome.
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(http://static.jjgames.com/images/7081.jpg)
There ya go...From what I remember the first one was better, though...
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I remember racing backwards through the first game with my friend... good times ^_^
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Vagrant Story probably needs it the most out of all. The story was almost setup for a sequel, and then it never happened.
Super Mario RPG would be cool, but I don't know. That's mostly me being nostalgic I think.
Other than that, I kinda liked Treasure of the Rudra's magic system. It would be interesting to see something similar to that today.
I'd love to see a Final Fantasy Tactics sequel too. Not the "advanced" series. Unfortunately, Yasumi Matsuno left SquareEnix, so we probably won't be seeing a FFT or Vagrant Story sequel anytime soon.
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I would love to see another sequel to the Musashi Series. Actually, nevermind, I'd just like to see a remake of the original Brave Fencer Musashi. I loved that game so very much, but it's too scratched to play on my PS2.
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I would love to see another sequel to the Musashi Series. Actually, nevermind, I'd just like to see a remake of the original Brave Fencer Musashi. I loved that game so very much, but it's too scratched to play on my PS2.
What, Samurai Legends wasn't good enough for you?
"IYUM GUNNA BE DA GRATIST SAMOORAI EVAR. HOLD ON, LET M'GIT MAH BELTS & ZIPPARS ADJISTED."
/sarcasm
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No one picked Bouncer... shocking! :lol:
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I just remembered one often overlooked Square game that would definitely be nice to have a sequel for.
Dewprism (Threads of Fate).
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Vagrant Story!!! I really loved that game xD
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Of the games listed, I would have to say Mario RPG. That was really impressive at the time, coming out so late in the SNES' lifespan and being so engaging. Sure, it was a bit on the easy side, but I'd love to see the same cast of playable characters reunite for another adventure - with a different graphic style than Paper Mario. Which is a lot of fun, but just not the same vibe.
That said, I voted for 'Other'. I doubt anyone would agree, as it was a bit of a flop - but I'd really like to see them take a stab at remaking or re-imagining Secret of Evermore, from 1995. It lacked the quirkiness of Japanese titles, but I thought it was a real creative spin on the genre to move the setting to the 20th century United States, arm the character with a bazooka and a dog, throw in some mad scientist elements. With some improvements, I think it could make for a really neat game.
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Of the games listed, I would have to say Mario RPG. That was really impressive at the time, coming out so late in the SNES' lifespan and being so engaging. Sure, it was a bit on the easy side, but I'd love to see the same cast of playable characters reunite for another adventure - with a different graphic style than Paper Mario. Which is a lot of fun, but just not the same vibe.
Well, while they don't involve the entire cast from the first one, there have been a couple other Mario RPGs: Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga and Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time...along with another one that's already out in Japan I think?
That said, I voted for 'Other'. I doubt anyone would agree, as it was a bit of a flop - but I'd really like to see them take a stab at remaking or re-imagining Secret of Evermore, from 1995. It lacked the quirkiness of Japanese titles, but I thought it was a real creative spin on the genre to move the setting to the 20th century United States, arm the character with a bazooka and a dog, throw in some mad scientist elements. With some improvements, I think it could make for a really neat game.
Yeah, it was Square USA, though...reskinning the Seiken Densetsu series...The Magic system was ok I guess...The badass robot/toaster dog was the real draw for me...JUST made up for the poodle part..>_>
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Square never made a sequel of any kind to Super Mario RPG. Paper Mario and the Mario & Luigi series was made by Nintendo using only SOME of SMRPG's elements. None were nearly as good as Square's masterpiece. I love the darker story that SMRPG adds to the otherwise whimsical Mario world... but in my opinion the other "Mario RPGs" don't deserve to be called sequels.
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Well, I never actually said they were sequels (I'm not even sure how much the word 'sequel' ever really ties into any Mario, really), but I think they're all about on the same level (maybe I didn't dig on LotSS as much?), myself (not including Paper Mario because I never played 'em)...I think that if you enjoyed LotSS, the M&L games are good enough sequel alternatives.
Since SE acquired Taito, I can now say that I'd like to see a new LUFIA sequel~!! Throw in remakes of the original 2 just so the kids can know what an awesome series this was (the GBA one was ok, but the GBC one was a stinker).
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Wow this thread is old, but I would like to see a new Bushido Blade.
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I would love to see a sequel to Super Mario RPG, it's one of my favorite games of all time.
Sadly I don't see Nintendo ever letting Square use Mario and there characters again.
We have a better chance of getting a new Chrono game then we do a sequel to Super Mario RPG.
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Part of me would like to see them actually do something --aside from the release of MptBQ on the Virtual Console -- with the Ogre Battle franchise since they snapped up the rights.
The much larger rest of me is glad that they're doing nothing, so they won't muck it up.
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Part of me would like to see them actually do something --aside from the release of MptBQ on the Virtual Console -- with the Ogre Battle franchise since they snapped up the rights.
The much larger rest of me is glad that they're doing nothing, so they won't muck it up.
Indeed, Ogre Battle! That's a great forgotten one.
I would like to see another in the same vein of Mario RPG, but not a sequel, I love that game to death and everytime I replay it I enjoy it a lot, but the story got wrapped up really nicely in the ending, so I can see no way a sequel could work without tarnishing that great game.
Maybe something in the same world but in another time or approach, like Chrono Cross was to Chrono Trigger. (Yes, I liked Cross as a sequel, is it really thathard to understand? o_o)
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Wow this thread is old, but I would like to see a new Bushido Blade.
That game was the JAM!!!! Ohhhh man a buddy and I tried to get through the castle or whatever that was...couldnt do it...but we always loved seeing how hemmed up we could get the opponent before the final blow.
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Haven't there been like 4 or 5 other good Mario RPGs...? I liked the portable ones as much but haven't tried the Papers (but hear good things)...
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Technically, this is Enix but the Seventh Saga. I loved being the Demon and looking for the runes. I never got super far in the game (it was awesomely hard), but I always enjoyed it anyway. I'd love to play it or a remake. Or sequel. Something!
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Secret of mana deserves a sequel or a remake. I know they already made a bunch of mana games but they all flopped. Seiken Densetsu 3 is a game that I consider almost as great as CT and it's a shame only Japan can play it legally.
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Importing is illegal? :P
But I agree...While Kingdom Hearts may or may not be a nice diversion in terms of action/adventure RPGs, they still needs to bring the Seiken Densetsu series back to its roots.
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I desperatley want to see a sequal to "The World Ends With You". That game is possibly the best DS Rpg out there and I find myself craving more of it.
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Not a Square series, though tied very closely to Chrono, and not on the list, but Baten Kaitos is an awesome game which needs a new addition.