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Title: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: MagilsugaM on May 20, 2008, 11:41:30 pm
I guees she will marry with Robo  :lol:
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 20, 2008, 11:44:25 pm
Well according to Chrono Cross she was killed by Lynx (in one of the dimensions - I don't remember which one).

Most likely she ended up like Terra Bradford from Final Fantasy VI, starting up an orphanage.

Wait a tic.  I just thought of something.  Perhaps an orphanage was erected because of the Porre-Guardia war (circa 1005 AD).  The war left many orphans, thus the need for an orphanage...

Bah!  Ah well!  It's all banter anyway...
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: FaustWolf on May 20, 2008, 11:48:58 pm
The orphanage idea makes perfect sense; that's always what I thought as well.

She died in Another World, I think; her fate in Home World was left unclear, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: MagilsugaM on May 21, 2008, 12:22:48 am
In fact she actually died killed by lynx in CC but What happened with her in RD reality?
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: V_Translanka on May 21, 2008, 03:19:54 am
Quote from: FaustWolf
She died in Another World, I think; her fate in Home World was left unclear, if I'm not mistaken.

Well, since the split (the creation of Serge's Home World) happened afterward, she's still dead in Home World...and anyways, after CC the two merge...

Lucca's dead. I don't think we can completely write her off from all possible continuity though...Heck, she's even in Xenogears, HA!

She isn't mentioned in RD, btw, MagilsugaM...
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: SolidSnake_8608 on May 21, 2008, 11:53:13 am
I like to pretend she married Fritz. Then Fritz flees from the burning orphange with Taban...wait, what?
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: FaustWolf on May 21, 2008, 12:04:05 pm
Well, since the split (the creation of Serge's Home World) happened afterward, she's still dead in Home World...and anyways, after CC the two merge...

Waaitaminute V, didn't the orphanage attack happen in 1015? And the dimensions split in 1010?

Also, some quotes from the Radical Dreamers game script:

Kid takes another step back, glaring at Lynx as he approaches.
"Lynx!! Ya murderer, I'll never forgive you for Lucca... This ends here and
now!!"


Lynx starts to walk over towards me, trampling over Kid's head.
Kid's dazed voice can be heard faintly...
"Lynx... Lucca's treasure... you..."

Gulp... what am I going to do!?

*Stand up to Lynx!
*Try to free Magil!
*Go to Kid's side!


My question is met with nothing but a cold gaze from Kid.
There's no response from her. Actually, now that I think about it, I haven't
heard Kid talk much about anything in her past, ever. But then, just as I think
I'm not going to be answered, she starts to speak...
"I made a promise with my big sis... to get the Frozen Flame, and bury it for
her..."
"Bury it for her? Where?"
"At her old friend's grave..."
Kid looks down at her feet, continuing. "I was still little at the time, so I
can't remember much of it... But there was this friend of hers who she'd grown
up with, who died a while back. She said she wanted him to be able to rest with
the Frozen Flame...
I don't know what she meant by that, but after what happened at the temple, I
vowed to get my revenge, and honor what she wanted."
I stay silent, not knowing what kind of reply to offer.
"I shoulda talked more about it before, before I got you involved in
everything, I guess," she says after a while.
"It's bad, Serge..."
......
With nothing but the sound of our footsteps echoing around us, we continue on,
deeper and deeper into the passageway.



Come to think of it, does RD explain why Lynx attacked the orphanage, or wherever Kid and Lucca were living, in that dimension? I don't think releasing the Prometheus Circuit was a factor since Chronopolis and all that jazz weren't in RD...

Fascinating that Crono's death is made explicit in RD as well.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 21, 2008, 12:14:02 pm
This is a little off topic, but someone with a better understanding of the RD plot could help me out...

In the RD reality, what is the role of the Frozen Flame?

This is random banter on my end, but if the Frozen Flame's role in RD is the same as it is in CC (certain magical/energetic properties that seem to "grant wishes", to a degree), then perhaps RD takes place in a universe in which the Chrono Trigger either doesn't exist, doesn't work, or was never given to Crono and company.

My logic in this assessment is that Lucca wants the Frozen Flame to put on a friend's grave.  The only friend we know of, and if I understand correctly, RD points towards this deceased character being Crono.  Knowing that Crono was killed in Lavos, and seeing that we have no other instances of Crono dying, it just seems logical to me that Crono was never actually revived.  Thus, perhaps, Lucca's goal was to obtain the Frozen Flame and potentially revive Crono?

Just a random thought.  I'm sure this connection has been made by others - it's nothing monumental.

(sigh)  Speculation is a bitch.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Thought on May 21, 2008, 12:57:09 pm
Well according to Chrono Cross she was killed by Lynx (in one of the dimensions - I don't remember which one).

Lucca had to have been abducted in Another (as Kid remembers this and Kid is from Another World). Then we have the Ghosts in Home World that state that they no longer exist in that timeline. She is probably dead in both worlds, then.

However, while the game very strongly implies that Lucca's dead, this isn't a definite. Kid clearly thinks she is dead, and Lynx plays on that belief, but no where in the script is this made explicite. The designers may have been trying to leave themselves some wiggle-room if they decided to bring her back in Chrono Break.

And, of course, Kid does have access to a Time Egg. She might be able to use that to save Lucca, even if Lucca did die.

This is a little off topic, but someone with a better understanding of the RD plot could help me out...

In the RD reality, what is the role of the Frozen Flame?

If I recall correctly, combining the Time Egg with the Frozen Flame was supposed to grant a person control over time itself (sounds like the Counter-Time Experiment to me). Kid also wanted to use the flame to honor Lucca's dead friend. I think it was also rumored that it could grant eternal life.

(sigh)  Speculation is a bitch.

Pish Posh, speculation is fun.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: MagilsugaM on May 21, 2008, 06:23:18 pm
So if she died in another there is any possibility to her to still alive in home no no...Wait
In which world Lavos was going to fall in home or in another?
I think she is death in both of then...
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on May 21, 2008, 07:10:30 pm
Truth be told, I had always written her off as a Lesbian. She never makes a move on Crono. EVER.

Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 21, 2008, 08:32:34 pm
Quote
Truth be told, I had always written her off as a Lesbian. She never makes a move on Crono. EVER.

Really?  I mean, there's no evidence to support that she IS a lesbian, but then again, there's no evidence to support that she ISN'T a lesbian.  I sort of always paired her with Glenn (human form, no doubt) in my head.  Seeing as how she was sort of "yucked" out by him as Frog (she clearly didn't care much for amphibious frogs), it seemed ironic that as a human she would find him a total stud.

But alas - I also thought that their love could never be.  Lucca would be too worried about disrupting the space-time continuum and choose to never be with him.  Instead she would channel her passion for children, and thus start an orphanage for the parentless children of what had, at one point, been the world super power that is Guardia Kingdom.

THE END.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: FaustWolf on May 21, 2008, 09:04:19 pm
Lucca does wrap her arms around the spiky-headed hunk of man-beef if Marle isn't around to witness his resurrection.

Question is, what happens when only Robo and Frog or Magus are around? :?
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: MagilsugaM on May 22, 2008, 03:00:26 am
Lucca does wrap her arms around the spiky-headed hunk of man-beef if Marle isn't around to witness his resurrection.

Question is, what happens when only Robo and Frog or Magus are around? :?

If you check CuteLucca's Hentai Dojins O.o
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: tushantin on June 01, 2008, 03:04:22 am
xD I'd say Lucca has some... *coughs* with Glenn, coz she's lonely, then he dumps her coz of yadda yadda and then she makes an orphanage. Lol, not my fault she called him a "dish"!

Anywhos, I doubt the creators ever mentioned the death of Lucca, Crono, Magus, Glenn and Marle. But we could play charades on this.

Crono: Died of aids~
Marle: Couldn't help living without Crono and committed suicide.
Lucca: She lost her way back to the orphanage and was never seen again.
Magus: He thought Crono's Mom was Schalla and was Killed In Action.
Glenn: Was too tired to be a freak of nature and killed himself.

XD There! All your queries have been answered!  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on June 01, 2008, 01:09:25 pm
xD I'd say Lucca has some... *coughs* with Glenn, coz she's lonely, then he dumps her coz of yadda yadda and then she makes an orphanage. Lol, not my fault she called him a "dish"!

Anywhos, I doubt the creators ever mentioned the death of Lucca, Crono, Magus, Glenn and Marle. But we could play charades on this.

Crono: Died of aids~
Marle: Couldn't help living without Crono and committed suicide.
Lucca: She lost her way back to the orphanage and was never seen again.
Magus: He thought Crono's Mom was Schalla and was Killed In Action.
Glenn: Was too tired to be a freak of nature and killed himself.

XD There! All your queries have been answered!  :lol: :lol: :lol:


Uh, tushantin... Lucca was killed by Lynx. :/ That's one of the Vital story elements of Chrono Cross.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: tushantin on June 03, 2008, 06:28:30 am
Hey, spare me the facts, I'm just trying to crack humor! xD I know Lucca was killed by Lynx, lol!

But that was merely a theory, since she was kidnapped and didn't come back. There was no body to witness her death except for Lynx. I know it's safe to assume she was killed by him. ;3 Buuuuut, can't fans have their own fantasies for fiction? XD
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 03, 2008, 02:04:04 pm
Yeah, I think Lucca's death was intentionally ambiguous.  That way they could come back to some of the familiar characters if they so chose (in another Chrono sequel).
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on June 03, 2008, 09:44:31 pm
Oh, my mistake. ^^; I thought it was like, a stated fact or something.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Insane on July 20, 2008, 04:21:06 pm
Marle dies of STDs.
Crono can't cope and goes to some distant land and becomes a hermit.
Crono's Mom needs someone to fill the void Crono did, so she adopts a Lavoid that was under the Epoch, named Lavender.
Lavender gets angry at Robo and "kills" it.
Lucca becomes manicly depressed, does drugs and spends the rest of her life in rehab, where she meets a girl named Amy who she madly falls in love with.

So, yeah, she's a lesbian because Marle died.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Romana on July 20, 2008, 04:38:46 pm
There's an upcoming PSP prequel called "Fritzis Core", starring well-loved but undeveloped NPC Fritz. This RPG gives insight into his backstory and the heroic events he was involved in that led to his ultimate demise (well, almost) in Chrono Trigger.

Characters who appear alongside him include:

Pierre, Fritz's calm and collected mentor whose secret dream is become a lawyer.

Norstein Bekkler, the crazed narcissist anti-hero with a tragic downfall that some fans may come to refer to as "Rayman syndrome".

Lucca, the inventor girl who creates Fritz's weapons. Also a lesbian.

Spekkio, the awesome sidekick who teaches Fritz to fling meteors.


So yeah, Lucca was involved in all that shit before CT. After? She started adopting kids and turning them into Gatos. Which lays out the plot for Dirge of Magus.


...Holy crap, this could be a hack.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: MagilsugaM on July 20, 2008, 07:00:07 pm
There's an upcoming PSP prequel called "Fritzis Core", starring well-loved but undeveloped NPC Fritz. This RPG gives insight into his backstory and the heroic events he was involved in that led to his ultimate demise (well, almost) in Chrono Trigger.

Characters who appear alongside him include:

Pierre, Fritz's calm and collected mentor whose secret dream is become a lawyer.

Norstein Bekkler, the crazed narcissist anti-hero with a tragic downfall that some fans may come to refer to as "Rayman syndrome".

Lucca, the inventor girl who creates Fritz's weapons. Also a lesbian.

Spekkio, the awesome sidekick who teaches Fritz to fling meteors.


So yeah, Lucca was involved in all that shit before CT. After? She started adopting kids and turning them into Gatos. Which lays out the plot for Dirge of Magus.


...Holy crap, this could be a hack.

LOL there is no funny hack for CT yet lets make one. WEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Ekul on July 24, 2008, 02:24:06 am
Hmm... Remember A Slide Show? She does seem to like Toma.... and Cyrus. Hmm...

I'm guessing probably she probably marries Toma.

Or maybe she screws around with time a lot and abducts Cyrus O.o

Or maybe she dies, and in the afterlife she marries Cyrus! Whoa!
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: LuccaFan on August 03, 2008, 11:47:02 pm
But...Toma's resident to 600 AD.  And Cyrus is dead!  I think she loves machines so much, she pulls a "Plankton" and creates a computer spouse.  Then the computer spouse goes HAL on her and destroys her home, re-cripples Lara, and eats babies.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Katie Skyye on August 07, 2008, 09:44:39 pm
She will continue to study magic and eventually become very powerful and take over Guardia. She will force everyone to eat their meals in one bite.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 14, 2008, 03:21:26 pm
Wow, can't believe that many voted for #2. Me, more so cause it's funny.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Katie Skyye on August 14, 2008, 03:49:56 pm
Wow, can't believe that many voted for #2. Me, more so cause it's funny.

You have been in EVERY single topic I've visited today! Jeez!
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 14, 2008, 04:03:20 pm
I'm not shy i guess. :lee:
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Prince Janus on August 14, 2008, 04:44:28 pm
 She had a Kid to take care of.

hahaha, look at me, I'm witty AND subtle!  Do you love me now? @_@
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Katie Skyye on August 21, 2008, 07:02:31 pm
She had a Kid to take care of.

hahaha, look at me, I'm witty AND subtle!  Do you love me now? @_@

No.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on August 25, 2008, 10:09:46 am
I love you Captain B! ;D

(In an "I don't love you" sort of way.)


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Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 25, 2008, 12:34:02 pm
I just decided to return since i saw a new post and, wow. Maybe Lucca really did become a lesbian. A lot of people think so.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Thought on August 25, 2008, 01:00:34 pm
A lot of people think so.

And a lot of people think "Immaculate Conception" relates to "the virgin birth," but that doesn't make it true.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 25, 2008, 01:12:14 pm
Yeah, but it has more of a chance of existing, because although it probably has a 1/100 chance of happening, a creator might happen to come across this and then it be shown in a future Chrono game a picture of Lucca with somebody and the close eye can see wedding rings upon their fingers, the SAME ones. Like i already said, slim chance, but the difference between our two things is that since we don't have any virgin births on hand, nothing can truly affect that scenario while as the Chrono creators are alive and well and so a slim chance of that exists. Of course I state for a third time, that is extremely slim.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: MagilsugaM on August 26, 2008, 04:43:43 am
It's a draw she was lesbian and she died  killed by Lynx.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Thought on August 26, 2008, 10:28:47 am
She might have died, but we don't know for sure. Chrono Cross is sort of like the end of X-Men 3; a lot of people "died" but every one of them can come back.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 26, 2008, 01:59:25 pm
I haven't seen X-3.

And now that you mention that, I have to wonder if Lynx truly did take out Crono. I brought it up on a fan group and there is a heated debate about it most points saying because Crono is older, he isn't as good. But you do bring up a good point that to me makes more sense. If Crono could kill the apocalypse itself(and all by himself) then why shouldn't he be able to wipe the floor with Lynx?

Either that or Lucca was a lesbian, Lynx was an anti-gay protestor and so he was one of those extremists that decided to kill her. About a week later he learned of Chrono Trigger's events.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: V_Translanka on August 26, 2008, 03:29:17 pm
Uh, who said Lynx killed Crono...?
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 26, 2008, 04:11:43 pm
Well, it is simply assumed that Crono died and based on the plain assumption that Lucca was killed by Lynx, I've also heard Crono and Marle were too.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: V_Translanka on August 26, 2008, 05:30:11 pm
Crono & Marle are assumed dead from the Fall of Guardia (it's not a theory I hold to myself though).
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 26, 2008, 06:09:17 pm
I still doubt they died from that either. My same reasoning being applied to this, if Crono had the power to stop Lavos, then how is it that whatever defeated Guardia could defeat him and so he could have possibly been around when Lynx attacked the orphanage. Plus Lucca also has that kind of strength at her disposal, not to mention it is only seen that Lynx and Harle burn the orphanage, if they had truly killed Lucca you would've seen her somewhere when you traveled into Kid's mind thu entering the past with the help of the Chrono Cross. So perhaps none of them even died, Kid just wasn't with anyone and escaped the fire, and watched it burn. Perhaps Lucca did get away, along with the other two. It is possible since Magus is perhaps there as they read the letter from Lucca(his shadow).
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on August 26, 2008, 07:08:33 pm
It's all still up for date, but seeing as how all those events were "retconned" with the creation of the Ideal Timeline, there's no telling.  By the time the next Chrono game comes out it will most likely occur within the confines of the Ideal Timeline, so there's no telling!
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 26, 2008, 07:49:37 pm
Exactly the point I'm making, their is no definite. Unless of course a character decides to just pop up from a random shadow and reveal a bunch of plot. Like Belthasar did in CC toward the end of it.  :P
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on August 26, 2008, 07:53:11 pm
But Belthasar fit that role so perfectly. It would be retarded if Azala or Gato did it.


Actually, it would be pretty cool if Gato did it. Nevermind.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 26, 2008, 10:22:55 pm
Yeah it would, but remember, it showed Gato completely mutilated by Lynx at the entrance to the orphanage. That sucked. Why couldn't Gato just sucker punch Lynx right in the face? Of course, Harle was also there. Toss a disc thing from a distance and Gato wouldn't stand a chance. Poor giant singing robot with a punching bag stomach.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: Thought on August 27, 2008, 10:31:04 am
Actually, it would be pretty cool if Gato did it. Nevermind.

Quote from: Gato
They call me Gato,
I am made of lead
Old King Crono
And his wife are dead.

Lucca's not straight
She is so gay.
She sleeps around with women
Every other day.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on August 27, 2008, 08:13:21 pm
Another reason why Thought is one of the coolest people here.
Title: Re: What will happend with Lucca when Crono married with Marle?
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on August 27, 2008, 08:19:48 pm
Quote from: Gato
They call me Gato,
I am made of lead
Old King Crono
And his wife are dead.

Lucca's not straight
She is so gay.
She sleeps around with women
Every other day.
[/quote]

I love you, I think I just wet myself from too much laughter, I'm definetly bleeding after falling to the floor.