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Termina Esplanade - Special Events and Feedback => Fan Feedback => Editorials and Features => Topic started by: ZeaLitY on December 20, 2004, 03:32:08 am
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As the Event Committee, I suppose we can also plan a celebration or something to commemorate the CT 10 year anniversary, which occurs next year in September. While we will poll the entire site and other forums for ideas, this place will become the formal discussion and execution thread for good ideas we receive. If you have an idea of what we could do, post it up anyway.
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Wow...10 years, huh? I can't believe that CT hasn't died out! I mean, I bet in 10 years Halo, GTA, and FFX will have all died out, with maybe 3 die-hard fans. To think that we have a whole website still devoted...Pretty impressive!! :D :D
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Get a bunch of mixers to do a tribute album. Release it on the anniversary, and donate all the proceeds to charity.
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That's actually a pretty good idea!
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I'll be celebrating with a special nonstop playthrough marathon...
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I suppose of Chrono Symphonic finishes around March, we can release it in celebration of the Japanese release.
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Personally, I'd like to see a Flash cartoon or Rom Hack video of some sort of celebration event. I might could help if it's a rom hack. ;;>_>
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Maybe we could start on that whole 'create a real-world Telepod' idea...I think it could really solve a lot of world problems...Heh? Heh? Eh....
Let's just celebrate my birthday! Sept 13 baby! I love Chrono Trigger...
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Hello! (No I'm not new here, I swear!)
I have a probable dumb question, why in september? I know/think the American release date was in August, unless I am missing something I sure am confused.
For celebrating, that celebration rom idea would be sweet.
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Let's revive this thread...
The anniversary is September 29th, 2005, which falls on a Thursday. I don't have any ideas at the moment, except for a massive Flash cartoon using the game's graphics, including voice acting and using Chrono Symphonic as a soundtrack. Yeah, that's huge, and short notice, but it's SOMETHING. And it might nicely serve in place of a Chrono Trigger movie. :P
Fresh ideas, anyone?
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Chronicles has the release date as August 22nd...I wonder which is accurate?
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/data/563538.html
GameFAQs usually gets it right... They're saying 9/27. Oh well, anyway. The more I think about it, the more I think it might not actually be a bad idea to start a series of Flash movies telling the Chrono Trigger storyline in pieces, maybe doing a "chapter" of Chrono Trigger with each release.
"The Millennial Fair," "The Queen Is Gone," "The Trial," etc. (Notice I omitted "The Queen Is Back" and "We're Back" because they're so short, they'd just blend right into the rest of 'em.) Thoughts on this? =P I'd be happy to direct voice-acting or whatever...
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I picked up CT as soon as it was released, it was definately in late August.
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The Chrono sites are pretty evenly split between the August and September release dates. Maybe we celebrate both? :wink:
A series of flash movies, while being a pretty large undertaking, is not a bad idea. I've often thought the best way to tell the story of CT was in the form of a series. I'd be willing to help.
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What sort of skills do you have, Luminaire? To get the ball rolling, we would need:
Flash animators - would need to be able to insert the separate musical and voice tracks as provided
Graphics people (to rip the sprites needed, custom-make sprites when needed, and provide the settings)
Scripters (to expand on the game's script a bit)
Voice actors - We all know CT has a huge cast, so people who can do multiple unique voices would be a plus, for playing both a major role and a bit part. Ie, the voice of Magus might also play Fritz, or whatever.
Can anyone think of any other positions we'd need to fill?
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Alas, I'm no help in the voice acting department. Nor am I very good at custom graphics, though I would be willing to help rip graphics from CT.
I'm a pretty good computer programmer; although I don't know much flash and don't have the right software, I'd be willing to learn.
As for the script, I started working on a CT screenplay miniseries a few months ago, not expecting it to get anywhere. (I'm to the party's first arrival at the End of Time.) It's probably not that good, but it might be a start.
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Voice actors - We all know CT has a huge cast, so people who can do multiple unique voices would be a plus, for playing both a major role and a bit part. Ie, the voice of Magus might also play Fritz, or whatever.
Hmm, I'd like to help with Voice Acting, but I'm not sure what voice I should do... If you could tell me who to be or how to say it (Angry, calm, amused), I'd give it my best shot... Though I'm far from professional. Plus, I've no accent when speaking in English, Dan can support me on this, I think... If you want a sample of me voice, here you are:
http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QGBXTRN6855T1FT1GSE3VNJMO
(Don't click the lower link, or wait for over 7 days... It will be shut down in both cases)
Not a very good recording in terms of emotion, but it was late and I wasn't trying. But, that's my my voice. So, can I be of service in this?
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I'll be happy to check out your voice later on, when I get off work. (They've got that site blocked up here.)
No accent = good.
I'll try and put up some descriptions for how voices should sound for each major character. As you look these over, keep in mind not just whether they fit you, but whether they would fit for people you know. Specifically, I know we don't have many girls on this forum, and we'd need several for the female leads. (Note that these descriptions aren't just asking for how the actor/actress' voice should sound, but whether they CAN sound like this.)
Crono: Since we have no idea what Crono's personality is, we want someone whose voice can be pretty much just "generic," I suppose. During the game we do get glimpses of Crono's thoughts and personal morals, so the most important part is that the actor has a firm grasp on the story and can understand Crono's point of view, carrying that emotion into the lines.
Marle: Sweet as Marle is, I think she's meant to come across as being bossy and almost bratty. Her voice should carry the young, moody teenager tone that tells you how fickle her feelings are. The actress who plays Marle should not be shy about yelling into the microphone, as there are MANY times when Marle raises her voice. Make sure your microphone can handle this without "popping."
Lucca: Lucca's actress should probably be long-winded, able to say a lot of stuff pretty quickly... This would make for some pretty humorous ways to show her technical genius as she explains the intricate workings of Gates and so on, at a speed that's obviously meant to NOT be understood by the other characters or the viewer. Lucca's voice would likely not be some sweet, sultry voice, but rather a soft-spoken, somewhat shy personality. I'd like to convey that shyness at first, and gradually show Lucca coming out of her shell as she is around the others more and more. By the end of the game, Lucca and Marle were all but best friends, and I'd like to show that as well.
Frog/Glenn: Seeing how this is a squire who has been insulted and lives in shame, he should be fairly soft-spoken. We should probably avoid deeper voices for this character because deep + soft = too low to hear. Deep voices also convey age or strength, and Glenn was still pretty young when he was cursed by Magus. People who are auditioning for Crono should probably also audition for Glenn. And be ready to use that accent!
Robo: (We may not use an actual person for this... Microsoft Sam may do! LOL...) He's a robot...he won't have particular tones or manners of speech, so just talk how you think a robot would if you want to audition for him.
Ayla: Ayla would probably have that "rare, big, muscular woman that's gonna beat you up" tone. I almost picture an almost Russian accent, ya know? :lol: Anyway, should be maybe kinda raspy. She ain't your typical dainty girl.
Magus: The medieval accent should be present on Magus, but not strong. He may have lived in 600 AD for most of his life, but he didn't learn how to talk in this era. His tone should be somber, somewhat lonely. This is where the soft-spoken, deep-voiced people would be useful. Play on the notion of Magus being calm, but only because of great restraint. He may commonly grit his teeth as he talks, restraining his anger and hate for Lavos.
Schala: As wonderful as I think Schala is, her downfall is her indecisiveness. Her speech should be somewhat slow, as though she is carefully choosing her words. Her accent...if you can speak with an accent that isn't readily identifiable, do so. Preferably one that sounds very elegant. Keep in mind the accent that the elves in Lord Of The Rings had, and you'll be on the right track. Ladies who are auditioning for Lucca may also want to audition as Schala.
Zeal: Being Schala's mother, she would have the same accent as Schala. Zeal is not afraid to raise her voice, and her actress should be good at laughing. =P Also, Zeal's actress should be able to sound very loving...it's just that Zeal loves Lavos, not her children. For this one, I would REALLY prefer someone who can SOUND old enough to be Schala's mother, so we need a voice that can't be mistaken for being too young. Zeal herself is probably in her upper 30s, maybe her 40s when the Ocean Palace disaster occurs. So ask your mothers if they could sound like tyrannical queens! (Most of you probably think your moms already *ARE* tyrannical queens.)
Gaspar: An old man with a Zealian accent. (Read Schala's description for some help with that accent.) Really not much else to describe here.
(Belthasar and Melchior don't have nearly as much voice time as Gaspar, so I didn't bother with them just yet.)
Voices aside, who here knows Flash and would enjoy working on this?
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What sort of skills do you have, Luminaire? To get the ball rolling, we would need:
Flash animators - would need to be able to insert the separate musical and voice tracks as provided
Graphics people (to rip the sprites needed, custom-make sprites when needed, and provide the settings)
Scripters (to expand on the game's script a bit)
Voice actors - We all know CT has a huge cast, so people who can do multiple unique voices would be a plus, for playing both a major role and a bit part. Ie, the voice of Magus might also play Fritz, or whatever.
Can anyone think of any other positions we'd need to fill?
Well, I can write, so maybe I could help with the scripting?
But as far as voice acting goes, maybe a minor or foolish character? Because my voice doesn't sound all that great when recorded, and I'm prone to making myself sound over-exaggurated. As such, though, maybe an NPC or two, or someone that has a little higher of a voice.
Anyway, I'll try and put a sample or two with lines from major characters (they're better, anyway. If my voice isn't all that good, and I don't think it is, you can relegate it to if you need a minor NPC to say a comment or something.) It's be fun to try Frog, though, as I do think with an older style, and even occassionaly speak so - I've been derided once or twice for word choice in a sentence.
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Actually I WAS imagining you for Frog! :lol:
And yes, I also had your scripting in mind after that Magus scene I read... I think you'd do great! What do you think, maybe 10-minute episodes? (Flash cartoons that long may not be practical...it may be better to find a way to record Flash into AVI or other standard video files and end up doing a Red-Vs-Blue type of thing.) 15 minutes for the really big episodes? ("Really big" would be the episodes like "Lavos Beckons" and "The Fated Hour" where all kinds of major stuff happens.)
EDIT: Soon, I'll also post some sample lines to try out with.
2ND EDIT: Sample lines... More later...
Crono:
Marle:
Lucca: "Now I understand... It lives on a planet, stealing away the most vital resources. It combined the DNA it found here with its own, and gave birth to those creatures up on Death Peak. Eventually the young must migrate to other planets, to repeat the cycle... Grown like farm animals, waiting to be slaughtered... All of our history, our art and science, all to meet the needs of that... beast. Impossible... You CAN'T expect to toy with an entire world and get away with it!"
Frog:
Robo:
Ayla: Ayla fight! Ayla get weapons back! Destroy bad man!! What we do, Lucca? (If Lucca says "Act sick") Ayla healthy! Lucca want sick, then sick. Uooo...! Ayla...hurt bad! (Guard comes in, Ayla kills him) Ayla don't like lie...
Magus: Behold, everything's at the bottom of the sea. Gone is the magical kingdom of Zeal, and all the dreams and ambitions of its people. I once lived there... But I was another person then... Ever since Lavos' time portal stranded me in the Middle Ages, I have waited to even the score. You interrupted me just when I had summoned Lavos to my castle. How ironic that, having been drawn into yet another portal, I would end up in this age. Being from the future, my knowledge of the past enabled me to convince the Queen that I was a mighty oracle. But no history book could have ever prepared me for what happened here. Unimaginable is the power of Lavos. Anyone who dares to oppose it... meets certain doom. At this rate, you too, will meet a hideous fate. Just like that poor fool, Crono!
Schala:
Zeal: (I shortened this speech a bit. This should start off quiet and calm, gradually building in tension and volume.) Behold: Destiny in its most brutal form... All the dreams that might have been. All the happiness, and sorrow, you might have experienced... Gone forever. For you, there will be no tomorrow! Destiny has led you here, and it is here you shall rest forever! Come, dear friends. Perhaps I can persuade Lavos to share his dreams with you! Oh, did I say dreams? I meant his eternal nightmare!
Gaspar: "It's what we all want... To bring back lost loved ones. Crono must be proud to have friends like you..."
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Bah. I recorded that scene with the recording that comes with Windows, which can only record a minute... But bah. I recorded the Magus bit, being as he's the only person who's voice is somehow similar to mine.... That long line was cut off in the end (If you'd provide me with a better recording program, I'll recored about any scene... Lots of free time, see). Anyway... What is your opinion?
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3F5HQGY4FM3PX0HPJSKFYYUHPZ
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Hmm... Well, I think your voice is likely too high for Magus. Let me write up some lines for Crono and I'll give them to you, along with directions on emotion. Also, a couple other minor notes: I think Lavos' name is pronounced "LAH-vohs," though that's a matter of opinion. Also, you may want to back away from the microphone a couple inches to avoid the popping when you exhale.
Daniel, do you have anything for Frog?
Hey ZeaLitY, would it be ok with you if I find a spot to make some threads where people can sign up, audition, etc? A thread for Frog, a thread for Crono, a thread for signing up a Flash animator and organizing him (hopefully "them")... Would that be all right with you or do I need to try and keep it limited to one so I'm not spamming threads all over a forum?
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Not Magus... Yes, my voice is deep, but not enough. Though five years from now I just might have a good enough voice. Well, maybe I'll be Magus on the fifteenth anniversary! ^^'
And, sure, Crono would be cool, too. Give me the lines, and I'll try...
And as for the Microphone... I had to hold it by hand, and it's not the type that's held by hand. So bah. I'll try to do my best, although that minor difficulty...
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Hold it about 6 inches to 1 foot away. At least 1 foot for louder lines.
For a sample, how about this, right after the group sees the video of the Day Of Lavos, in 1999 AD.
Crono: Marle, you're right... This CAN'T be the way the world ends. We can't let it happen! We need to get back to Truce and warn people. We've got to DO something!
And right before the very last battle with the Lavos Core, each character has their own little speech that they make... How 'bout this for Crono's line...
Crono: You... You've used us like puppets! All the "developments and advancements" in our world were just so you could leech our lives away... No, this can't be right... I gave my life for my friends once, and I'm ready to do it again! ...But I don't think that'll be necessary. Lavos, it's YOUR turn to die.
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Hold it about 6 inches to 1 foot away. At least 1 foot for louder lines.
For a sample, how about this, right after the group sees the video of the Day Of Lavos, in 1999 AD.
Crono: Marle, you're right... This CAN'T be the way the world ends. We can't let it happen! We need to get back to Truce and warn people. We've got to DO something!
And right before the very last battle with the Lavos Core, each character has their own little speech that they make... How 'bout this for Crono's line...
Crono: You... You've used us like puppets! All the "developments and advancements" in our world were just so you could leech our lives away... No, this can't be right... I gave my life for my friends once, and I'm ready to do it again! ...But I don't think that'll be necessary. Lavos, it's YOUR turn to die.
Bah, you reminded me of the Final Battle. Must...Hear....Final Battle BGM...!
~Listens~
~Records the two sequences~
http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2XEM8W53Y820I3SXNBH0K1290R- That's the 2300 A.D. piece... I've stuttered in the end, as to make Crono seem helpless...
http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15N88XK8AQ5QB14QYPS55ZJ5EQ
Here, I made Crono seem shocked at start. Then, in the end, he speaks quietly, and then yells in rage. Make sure you lower the volume a bit for this one. X_X
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I was going to record a little yesterday, but never got around to it. I'll do it today, but I'm at work right now, so it will have to be later. Like I said, I'll do my best, but my voice is rather high, and I don't have a very good microphone (usually I have to use the program to put up the decibel level after the fact.)
Oh, by the way, maybe I should belay the suggestion that I help with the scripting. I'd get far too carried away, and decidedly uncolloquial if I attempted such a thing. I just can't do 'normal' speaking and make it sound good. I can't write Chrono-Trigger esque.
You... You've used us like puppets! All the "developments and advancements" in our world were just so you could leech our lives away... No, this can't be right... I gave my life for my friends once, and I'm ready to do it again! ...But I don't think that'll be necessary. Lavos, it's YOUR turn to die.
You see, if I were to write that in my way, it would be something along the lines of.
"You have enthralled us as unknowing slaves, crafted our fates and sciences to your evil-hearted will, to such an end as you wished, and it was this: to tear from us our lives and purpose, to be naught more than slaves to your wicked will. Well, this cannot be! I foresook my life once, in the cause of righteousness, and if needs come to it, gladly will I do so again. But no: it will not come to it, for fate is clear, and the will of God is this: villain, it is your blood that will be scattered this day!"
Alright, badly done for me not being in a writing mood, tired, and not really thinking aright, but that exemplifies why I cannot write Chrono Trigger. That there is my favoured, and usually easiest, way of writing. If I were to make it any more normal, I would be incredibly worried that I'm sounding foolish. This is most especially true in anything that resembles a battle-speech. It's fine when I'm writing something that is supposed to be ancient, but is extremely ill-placed with Chrono Trigger. I guess I'm not a very flexible writer...
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Hah, on the contrary. I bet there are more than a few fans who would like to claim that as a method of casual writing in the fantasy genre.
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I was going to record a little yesterday, but never got around to it. I'll do it today, but I'm at work right now, so it will have to be later. Like I said, I'll do my best, but my voice is rather high, and I don't have a very good microphone (usually I have to use the program to put up the decibel level after the fact.)
Oh, by the way, maybe I should belay the suggestion that I help with the scripting. I'd get far too carried away, and decidedly uncolloquial if I attempted such a thing. I just can't do 'normal' speaking and make it sound good. I can't write Chrono-Trigger esque.
You... You've used us like puppets! All the "developments and advancements" in our world were just so you could leech our lives away... No, this can't be right... I gave my life for my friends once, and I'm ready to do it again! ...But I don't think that'll be necessary. Lavos, it's YOUR turn to die.
You see, if I were to write that in my way, it would be something along the lines of.
"You have enthralled us as unknowing slaves, crafted our fates and sciences to your evil-hearted will, to such an end as you wished, and it was this: to tear from us our lives and purpose, to be naught more than slaves to your wicked will. Well, this cannot be! I foresook my life once, in the cause of righteousness, and if needs come to it, gladly will I do so again. But no: it will not come to it, for fate is clear, and the will of God is this: villain, it is your blood that will be scattered this day!"
Alright, badly done for me not being in a writing mood, tired, and not really thinking aright, but that exemplifies why I cannot write Chrono Trigger. That there is my favoured, and usually easiest, way of writing. If I were to make it any more normal, I would be incredibly worried that I'm sounding foolish. This is most especially true in anything that resembles a battle-speech. It's fine when I'm writing something that is supposed to be ancient, but is extremely ill-placed with Chrono Trigger. I guess I'm not a very flexible writer...
Well, Dan, Crono is a normal teenager of 1000 A.D. He woulden't speak in that kind of tongue. Maybe Janus would, but not Crono.
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Well also, remember that I asked for Daniel to HELP with the script, but that doesn't mean he'd be writing the whole thing! :lol: He'd probably write for Magus/Janus, Frog, King Guardia XXI and Leene, and possibly for the people of Zeal, to maintain the old-style feel of Guardia, and the "archaic" feel of Zeal.
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Well also, remember that I asked for Daniel to HELP with the script, but that doesn't mean he'd be writing the whole thing! :lol: He'd probably write for Magus/Janus, Frog, King Guardia XXI and Leene, and possibly for the people of Zeal, to maintain the old-style feel of Guardia, and the "archaic" feel of Zeal.
Yeap, that'll do! ^_^
I guess writing getting used to writing in a certain style has it's disadvantages; It's a bit harder to write in any other style. Possible, but hard.
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Oh, and Jake, what's your verdict about my recordings?
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Can't really judge one way or the other until there are more to hear. :)
Oh, and I'm making a separate thread for this project over in Kajar Labs. Check it out. (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=1051)
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I'd love to help with the voice acting, but I need a mic. Where can I pick up a cheap one?
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Hm...I'd like to volunteer, but I'll probably be tied down with other things when school starts. CE'll probably be the only extra thing I'll be able to do.