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Marbule Gallery - Completed Fan Creations => Chrono Trigger: Prophet's Guile => Topic started by: Chrono'99 on December 04, 2007, 06:44:51 pm

Title: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 04, 2007, 06:44:51 pm
Prophet's Guile is unique in the Chrono community as it might be the only fanproject to have been abandoned not because of a lack of progress, but because it was decided to divert the existing momentum to another project (diverted back to Crimson Echoes). Still, Prophet's Guile is nearly completed; it's physically playable from the beginning up to the ending, with the only incomplete parts being the dialogues, the battle setups and perhaps *one* or two instances of graphic hacking.

With Christmas approaching, does anyone think (first, is anyone there?) that we could launch one last sprint and complete what remains to be completed, to finally release the game on December 25, or even December 31? This could be an awesome success, not just because it would be one of the rare completed projects, but because it involves the "Three Wise Men" Belthasar, Gaspar, and Melchior... something definitely appropriate for Christmas.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 04, 2007, 07:55:19 pm
It would restore a lot of faith in the community. As much as I try to avoid working now, for fear of getting sucked back in...

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i124/ham_04/Rock%20lee/Rock%20Lee/Gai_Lee__Orange_Umbrella_by_jubaka.jpg)

I'm up for this. Can you post the latest playable version of the ROM? And we could get discussion going again.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 05, 2007, 08:24:52 am
I think it's the one in this post:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,3752.msg74469.html#msg74469

I had a slightly more recent version in which I was experimenting with Mt. Woe to try to make a sort of minigame with Melchior, but it was too complicated and so I scrapped the idea (and it disappeared for good when my old hard drive died anyway). We can probably just make Melchior follow Magus and run out of the screen when a battle occurs.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 06, 2007, 02:46:00 am
Here's Kajar: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,3752.msg70732.html#msg70732

I'll begin writing all the dialogue in a new reply to this thread sometime. At the end, we can hire a beta tester (a literate one) and get the rest of the team to play it to see if the dialogue needs any tweaking; like if it's too formal or something.

Good news: rushingwind 75% chance found someone willing to translate a few short messages to Chrono Center. One of those will be an announcement about Prophet's Guile, a short explanation, and a request to spread the ROM hack around the Japanese community.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Vehek on December 06, 2007, 03:17:03 am
I remember finding some problems in your Kajar event, Zeality.

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 06, 2007, 02:43:40 pm
Thanks for bringing that up; I remembered a problem with that, but I couldn't quite place it in my mind.

Tonight, I'll begin writing dialogue and reviewing the plot. I think I have a Beast Nest map already finished in the map thread, along with the Mt. Woe ones, which I'm not so sure I finished.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 06, 2007, 06:34:08 pm
Notes

Should we keep Magus out of Schala / Janus's bedrooms until later? Before the audience, if he approaches the doorway, he stops and says...

"{Magus}: ...I must stay focused.{null}

Dialogue

Enhasa

Zeal Man NPC

Another lovely day, isn't it?
Time to sit and relax.{null}

Audience with Queen Zeal

Zeal Woman NPC by door

Have you gazed into the Mammon
Machine, visitor? That crimson pulse...{full break}
Oh, it's overwhelming!{null}

Zeal Woman NPC guarding door

My, an eerie...{delay 02}
Excuse my manners.
What do you seek?{null}

{Magus}: I have come to speak{line break}
with the Queen. May I enter?{null}

I'm sorry, but the Queen is not accepting
guests today. Do you have business?{null}

{Magus}: ...I am a clairvoyant.{line break}
I am aware of Zurvan's serene tides...{line break}
Their depth, direction, and destiny{line break}
concerning the course of humankind.{page break}
From secluded, quiescent realms, I{line break}
have come to observe the ascendancy{line break}
of Zeal, and aid its rise to lordship over{line break}
this world...{page break}
...{delay 02}And the Queen awaits my prophecy.{line break}
Relate my arrival to her, please.{null}

...One moment.{null}

The Queen has granted you audience.
Proceed.{null}

~

ZEAL: Well?{null}

{Magus}: My Queen...{line break}
I am a nameless prophet.{line break}
The current of dreams reveals itself{line break}
unto me in plentiful visions.{page break}
A time ago, I sensed the coming glory{line break}
of Zeal, and knew the hour of godhood{line break}
was nigh. I knew I must journey to{line break}
The cloud's domain, and observe...{page break}
The events of the coming, enchanted{line break}
days lay seriatim in my mind. But{line break}
Fate, and foolish men may yet{line break}
disrupt this order.{null}

ZEAL: You see everything, do you?{line break}
...Hm. Continue.{null}

{Magus}: My Queen, allow me to{line break}
Stand in your holiest court here,{line break}
and help to lift the dream of Zeal{line break}
with my perceptive powers.{page break}
Even now, I have foreseen a violent{line break}
storm, threatening to impede the{line break}
Skyways. It will strike in...{null}

ZEAL: Hah!{line break}
Congratulations, Prophet! You've{line break}
{"1}predicted{"2} yesterday's tempest{line break}
with stunning accuracy! Hahaha...{null}

DALTON: Heh.{line break}
You're a natural at this!{line break}
But do you know what happens to{line break}
those who lie to the Queen?{null}

{Magus}: ...{line break}
Excuse my miscalculation...{line break}
Traveling in the beryl blizzards{line break}
has obscured my notion of time.{page break}
Tomorrow, an Earthbound child{line break}
will be born in the caves. I...{null}

ZEAL: Who cares?{line break}
Children come of those wretched{line break}
people all the time. What does it{line break}
matter?{page break}
Perhaps you should spend{line break}
some time thinking your own fate{line break}
over on the ice below!{null}

{Magus}: ...Hear me, my liege!{line break}
Do you know of the secret chambers{line break}
the Gurus keep from you?{null}

ZEAL: ...Secret chambers?{null}

{Magus}: Yes.{page break}
The sages steal away and hide{line break}
their tomes and mysteries in covert{line break}
rooms, hidden in both the cities{line break}
of magic and dreams.{page break}
Their concealing intent and coy{line break}
deception impress upon my sight.{null}

ZEAL: Can you show me these{line break}
hidden rooms, Prophet?{null}

Found the Hidden Rooms

ZEAL: Unbelievable...{null}

DALTON: How was this kept for{line break}
so long without us knowing?{line break}
And how did you know...?{null}

{Magus}: These date back to the{line break}
construction of Zeal, during the{line break}
first days of flight.{page break}
Behold their research and magical{line break}
stones, with the potential for spells{line break}
surpassing that of the royal arts.{null}

ZEAL: Sheer treachery.{line break}
Hah, but the game is up!{line break}
Dalton, order your corps to seal{line break}
the rooms up.{null}

DALTON: Understood.{null}

ZEAL: The Gurus have much to{line break}
answer for...{delay 03}{instant page break}
Prophet!!{line break}
You've done well.{line break}
Perhaps you have a place in my{line break}
service.{null}

DALTON: What? He's totally{line break}
unproven. Anyone could have{line break}
guessed there'd be secret rooms{line break}
in here.{page break}
There are plenty in Zeal Palace{line break}
alone. Just do a little digging.{null}

ZEAL: What are you trying to{line break}
say?{null}

DALTON: Let's send our Prophet{line break}
on a little errand to prove his power.{line break}
If he can tell what's going to happen{line break}
next, then he'll be okay.{null}

{Magus}: Combat?{line break}
That's ridiculous. I have demonstrated{line break}
my ability already.{null}

ZEAL: Hah! No, my seneschal has{line break}
the right idea. It would be interesting{line break}
to see a soothsayer fight!{null}

{Magus}: ...{null}

ZEAL: The wild beasts have made a {line break}
a nest near the Land Bridge.{line break}
They attacked an Enlightened One{line break}
just yesterday.{page break}
Dalton's men were going to kill them,{line break}
but I think you can handle it alone...{page break}
Isn't that right?{null}

{Magus}: ...Yes, I see it.{null}

ZEAL: Good! Get going. And...{line break}
Good luck! Hahahaha...{null}

Magus exits

DALTON: So, you detected that{line break}
shadowy aura too? Now we'll{line break}
see if he can make something of it.{null}

ZEAL: What tipped you off?{line break}
Hurry up and seal this room!{line break}
I'll be waiting in the palace.{null}

Zeal exits; Dalton stares at the door and does his "angry" animation for a split second before the screen fades

Beast's Nest

A lasher's at the entrance

So, you finally showed up.
Just heard the news.{full break}
The trail goes straight to the nest.
They aren't too smart, you know.{null}

He walks towards the exit

Well, time to ride the light.
You're on your own!{null}

He exits; when Magus defeats the boss, a small scene ensues in which Magus turns around and fires something...a lightning bolt sprite maybe at the rock wall nearby (you'll see it on the map), and the lasher falls down to the snow.

Ugh, how'd you know!?{null}

{Magus}: ...{null}

...Nevermind. Dumb of me to ask...

{Magus}: Why did you follow me?{null}

Are you serious? As soon as you
stepped out of Kajar, word spread
like fire. You really think Queen Zeal
would throw away a Prophet?{full break}
I mean, she's gotten weird lately,
but not stupid. I'm here just in
case you CAN'T fight.{null}

Magus draws near

Yeah, in retrospect, that was a
given. Anyway, let's hurry back.
The Queen can't wait.{null}

Zeal Palace Audience

ZEAL: How was your little{line break}
excursion?{null}

Magus produces the hide

DALTON: !!{line break}
By yourself!?{null}

ZEAL: Aha...!{null}

{Magus}: As you requested, my{line break}
Queen.{null}

Zeal laughs

ZEAL: Wonderful!{line break}
So it's all not just for show.{page break}
I'll have you know, Prophet, that{line break}
while you were gone, an Earthbound{line break}
child was born! And for some{line break}
idiotic reason, Schala's gone to see it...{page break}
...Perhaps to start the child's{line break}
lifetime of servitude early?{null}

Zeal laughs

{Magus}: A question, if I might ask...{null}

ZEAL: Speak, speak!

{Magus}: How is construction on{line break}
the undersea palace proceeding?{line break}
Does the hour of christening near?{null}

ZEAL: The palace...{line break}
What do you see, Prophet?{delay 03}{line break}
Will we attain immortality at last?{null}

{Magus}: {delay 03}...{line break}
Yes. Zeal will be forever.{null}

Zeal...does some kind of animation

{Magus}: But per my question!{line break}
I cannot foretell the exact moment{line break}
the glory is ours. For there are{line break}
plots against you brewing...{page break}
From my meditations, I have found{line break}
five interlopers planning to descend{line break}
from an aetheric realm and destroy{line break}
Lavos itself. Their ranks include...{page break}
...A man with pointed, red hair,{line break}
brandishing a slender sword...{page break}
...A woman in pearl white,{line break}
with piercing bow at her grasp...{page break}
...A golden doll with hammering{line break}
fist and seething steam...{page break}
...A woman with eagle eyes and{line break}
weaponry that spits awful fire...{page break}
...And a mythic frog, wielding a{line break}
magic blade with cowardly stance.{page break}
They seek to kill the great god{line break}
Lavos, and shatter the dream{line break}
of Zeal upon the dying earth{line break}
below.{null}

ZEAL: So, envious wraiths are{line break}
gathering to diminish our majesty...{line break}
But they are fated to die!{line break}
Isn't that right?{null}

{Magus}: Fate can be altered...{line break}
Though slightly. My Queen, you must{line break}
not give any quarter or allowance{line break}
to opposition at this stage.{page break}
But they are not the only ones{line break}
planning to wreck Zeal's flight.{page break}
The Gurus have suffered a loss{line break}
of pride thanks to our discovery.{line break}
They now openly conspire, and{line break}
will sabotage the Mammon Machine.{page break}
They must be hastefully dealt with...{null}

ZEAL: I knew it!{line break}
They've been avoiding this{line break}
palace for days...and now this!{line break}
They seek only personal gain...{page break}
Well, it's all going to come back{line break}
to them in spades!!{line break}
{delay 03}Hahaha!{null}

Zeal laughs

ZEAL: Prophet!{line break}
Leave us. I have much to{line break}
think about.{page break}
You will stay in a royal{line break}
guest room.{null}

ZEAL: You!!{line break}
Show him his quarters.{null}

Quarters

JANUS: Hey!{line break}
Who are you?{null}

{Magus}: {delay 02}...{null}

JANUS: ?{line break}
Answer me!{null}

{Magus}: {delay 02}...{line break}
{delay 02}...{page break}
...L-look after Alfador, Janus.{null}

JANUS: ...?{null}

Dream Sequence

OZZIE: Hahaha!{line break}
It sounds so easy!!{null}

{Magus}: Easier than you think.{line break}
Lavos will enter this world with{line break}
a simple summon, and proceed{line break}
to eradicate humanity in total.{page break}
With dark arts, capable of{line break}
tearing even the heavens asunder...{line break}
Lavos will bury their entire{line break}
civilization in an instant.{null}

SLASH: ...Damn...{line break}
All at once?{line break}
No regard to its victims?{line break}
I mean...{delay 02}jeez, that's hard to...{null}

{Magus}: Just as the humans{line break}
have oppressed us, Lavos will{line break}
crush them all. There will be{line break}
no escape...and no mercy.{null}

FLEA: Ooh, dreamy... {heart}{line break}
But sounds dangerous!{null}

{Magus} ...Yes, Lavos is our{line break}
dream of revenge. He is the{line break}
will of Mystics divined in godhood.{page break}
Soon, that dream will reach its{line break}
fulfilling end.{page break}
...Let's get started.{null}

~

JANUS: Sis...it feels so...{line break}
...so dark...{null}

SCHALA: I know, Janus.{line break}
But...we have the Gurus.{line break}
And mother means best for{line break}
Zeal...{page break}
It'll be okay.{null}

JANUS: But the wind's back...{null}

SCHALA: The black wind is always{line break}
with us. But defying that fated{line break}
gale is what Zeal stands for...{page break}
They say Lavos can let us{line break}
resist even death, and silence{line break}
the black wind forever.{null}

JANUS: Do you believe that?

They stop

SCHALA: ...{null}

They continue walking

Throneroom Argument

ZEAL: Then why do YOU care!?{line break}
You said it's safe!{line break}
What's the big problem!?{null}

MELCHIOR: I said that, fine!{line break}
But the closer we get, the more{line break}
dangerous this seems! Do you{line break}
even know what Lavos IS?{page break}
Does anyone?{line break}
We're playing with mighty big{line break}
fire, here!{null}

ZEAL: Silence!{line break}
I'm so sick of this...{line break}
Back, and forth, and over again!!{line break}
And then, you keep secret rooms...{null}

MELCHIOR: ...I...{line break}
Those rooms were ancient labs,{line break}
and...{line break}
Well...{null}

ZEAL: See!{line break}
You're just like the others...{line break}
Treacherous, conniving,{line break}
aggrandizing...{null}

MELCHIOR: I'm not going to{line break}
sacrifice Zeal on a fool's gamble.{line break}
Even if I have to destroy my{line break}
own creation...{null}

ZEAL: Hah! Like you'll get{line break}
the chance!!{null}

Looks at Prophet stuff

ZEAL: Prophet!{line break}
Just as you described...{line break}
Melchior's guilty, and the others{line break}
to are nowhere to be found!{page break}
Now...take this pathetic old man{line break}
and shack him up on Mt. Woe{line break}
for the time being, heh...{line break}
Hahaha! No one can defy me!{null}

MELCHIOR: ...Hmph!{line break}
Well then...on your guard,{line break}
charlatan!{null}

Melchior tries a spell

MELCHIOR: !?{delay 02}{instant page break}
ZEAL: Hahahaha!{line break}
Get the hell out of here!{null}

AIDE: Please take the special{line break}
Skyway on the right to the Queen's{line break}
bedroom. There, you will find her{line break}
access gate to Mt. Woe.

Bedroom Text

MELCHIOR: It is you who are{line break}
bound by fate. And Zeal...{line break}
All will be destroyed by Lavos.{line break}
Don't you realize it...?{null}

GUARD: Never thought I'd{line break}
see old man Melchior in here.{page break}
Well, whatever. If she comes{line break}
back here and you guys are{line break}
still around, it's gonna be bad.{line break}
Get moving.{null}

Mt. Woe

MELCHIOR: {"1}Prophet{"2}...{delay 02}
Do you know why I allowed{line break}
you to take me this far...?{line break}
Why I've complied so easily?{null}

{Magus}: I couldn't care...!{null}

{Magus}: That's...!{line break}
That feels like...{page break}
The Masamune!{null}

{Magus}: So, even that sword{line break}
may have its origins in Zeal?{page break}
But it's a knife...{null}

{Magus}: Too bad I can't ask you{line break}
more when you wake up, Melchior.{line break}
It's not in the cards...{page break}
Now, for that spell...{null}

Magus and Schala

{Magus}: ...{null}

SCHALA: Prophet...{line break}
Did you truly take him up there?{line break}
I don't know if you are versed{line break}
in our ways, but...{page break}
Mt. Woe is not a prison at all.{line break}
Rather, those left at the peak{line break}
are devoured or killed outright{line break}
by the terrible beast, Giga Gaia...{page break}
Please tell me you didn't.{line break}
Melchior had valid concerns.{line break}
For someone who's given his{line break}
life to Zeal, it's just...{null}

{Magus}: Don't worry, Schala.{line break}
I...was not aware of that custom.{line break}
I sealed Melchior in ice stasis.{line break}
He will not be touched.{null}

SCHALA: Oh, thank goodness...{line break}
Mother's turning on him like that{line break}
is so horrible...I don't know what{line break}
to think anymore.{page break}
I don't know why I'm telling{line break}
you this...{null}

{Magus}: ...{delay 02}{instant page break}
It will be okay, Schala. Be calm...{page break}
...{null}

He starts walking; stops after passing Schala somewhat, then continues as she watches

Next

Queen Zeal is busy with the
Mammon Machine, and cannot
see you today.

Enhasa

NU: Prophet.{page break}
{Magus}: ?{delay 02}{instant page break}
NU: The master wishes to know{line break}
more about you.{null}

Fight

{Magus}: Why did you fight{line break}
me, creature?{null}

NU: Nuuu!!{line break}
That hurts!{page break}
Master Belthasar wanted to{line break}
learn about you, Nu!{null}

{Magus}: Learn about me?{null}

NU: He and Gaspar have fled{line break}
Zeal, taking their equipment{line break}
and magic with them.{null}

{Magus}: But why does he{line break}
care what I do?{null}

NU: You hasten the activation{line break}
of the Mammon Machine, Nu.{line break}
Black wind surrounds you! You{line break}
will only bring ruin to us!{page break}
You are death's harbinger!{null}

Magus releases his hold

{Magus}: Tch, only Belthasar's{line break}
Nus could have personalities like{line break}
that...{page break}
Go back to your master.{line break}
Tell him to watch the skies.{null}

Nu leaves

{Magus}: With all three Gurus{line break}
out of the way, I can start my{line break}
preparations at the Ocean{line break}
Palace.{page break}
Time to visit Queen Zeal...{null}

Mammon Machine

DALTON: What!?{line break}
That's ridiculous!{null}

ZEAL: Hahaha!{line break}
The Prophet is the natural choice{line break}
to led the palace's completion!{page break}
You're more cut out for guard{line break}
duty as it is!{null}

Angry animation

DALTON: That's not true!{line break}
As seneschal, I succeeded{line break}
Belthasar as director of the{line break}
project!{null}

ZEAL: And since then, you've{line break}
done nothing but fuss around{line break}
while our Prophet works hard{line break}
without complaint.{page break}
What an example you've set!{line break}
Hahaha!!{null}

Zeal laughs as Magus enters

ZEAL: Ah, welcome!{line break}
Prophet, you may now{line break}
personally oversee the finishing{line break}
touches on the Ocean Palace.{null}

{Magus}: (!){line break}
I am honored to have the{line break}
responsibility of this task.{null}

ZEAL: Yeah, yeah.{line break}
Well, hurry it up!{null}

Zeal goes to the side skyway; Dalton faces the Prophet

DALTON: Well, well...{line break}
Let's see how you handle{line break}
THIS, {"1}Prophet{"2}.{page break}
I was going to patch something{line break}
up down there today, but since{line break}
she's volunteered you...{null}

Dalton steps forward

DALTON: Get down to the{line break}
palace. Those miserable{line break}
Earthbound are complaining{line break}
about a contamination...{page break}
Sea creatures and briny{line break}
water is pouring in to one{line break}
of the wings. So...{page break}
Fix it! Hah! Have fun, now!{line break}
Don't forget to exterminate{line break}
all the monsters!{null}

Ocean Palace

Guess we should put a Zeal man NPC in the first area

Ah, the Prophet himself.
Talk to the workers in the next
chamber.{null}

Going clockwise

(Lasher below entrance)

Hey. You're here to fix the
breach?{delay 03}
...Well, guess they do care
about us up there after all!{null}

(Mage)

Harrr, work is almost finished.
The Queen personally commissioned
this defensive forward chamber,
sure to stop any threats to us...{null}

(Mage overseeing Earthbound)

Urrr, faster!
Lay down those tiles so I can
seal the magical traps!!{null}

(Earthbound)

One wrong step, and you fall
into that magmatic miasma there...
I've lost count of all my friends
who've been burned alive...{full break}
Please be careful...{null}

(Earthbound)

The Scouters, and those awful
Mages are the pinnacle of Zeal's
research on developing servile
creatures with magic powers...{null}

(Mage)

The Mammon Machine is due to
arrive soon.
They're preparing the passages
ahead, blurgh...{null}

(Earthbound pacing up and down)

I was taken while hunting beasts
on the fields. There were ten of
us...{full break}
...Forgive my fatigue, Prophet.
I've heard of your coming...
Oh, blessings...{null}

(Trasher)

Yeah! I got promoted to
Thrasher yesterday and moved
down here. Purple suits me well...{full break}
Now I'll have a front row seat
to immortality!{null}

(Earthbound pacing left of him)

It happened a few hours ago.
A big clang, and this sick, crunching
sound...{full break}
Water rushed in and...
Ralean, and Jerrik, both...
And then horrible sea beasts came
and mauled the survivors...{full break}
...The breached room is ahead.{delay 02}
...Let me get back to work...{null}

(Thrasher by door)

Right through here.
Be careful. We already lost
two corps men cleaning up the
mess.{null}

(Mage)

Bleahah, they were no match
for us. I can smell their rotting
carcasses from here.{null}

Guess we'll put a Thrasher by the breach entrance in the next room

The water tore through lock fifteen
up ahead. There's standing water,
so be careful.{full break}
Wha? Monsters?
Thought we took care of those
already...?{null}

Room

{Magus}: Nothing here...?{null}

DALTON: Well, that's nice.{line break}
It'll save us both some work.{page break}
This breach is convenient,{line break}
you know...{page break}
One little touch, and your{line break}
untimely death can be blamed{line break}
on the entire thing.{line break}
The water will clean it up well.{null}

{Magus}: What did you say?{full break}
DALTON: Oh, save it.{line break}
Did you not predict this{line break}
or something? Hah!{page break}
Queen Zeal lets you parade{line break}
around because she doesn't{line break}
consider you a threat, even{line break}
with that trumped-up aura.{page break}
But I see it a little differently...{line break}
You show up...gain favor...{delay 02}{line break}
Throw out the Gurus...{page break}
And now, you're usurping{line break}
me. What's next? The throne?{null}

Magus gets ready

{Magus}: As I thought.{line break}
This is about you.{line break}
You always were one to lose{line break}
without any grace whatsoever.{page break}
Need I prove it?{null}

DALTON: Heh...{line break}
You're not worth it. Instead...{line break}
GOLEM!! Tear him to SHREDS!{null}

DALTON: Ugh, troublesome!{line break}
Take this!{null}

DALTON: Aughhhh!{page break}
You...son of a bitch!{line break}
I'll kill you! I swear!{null}

{Magus}: Heh. Care to lose{line break}
your other eye?{page break}
Hmph...killing you would only{line break}
incur suspicion.{page break}
Listen, you pathetic idiot.{line break}
You are a worm unto me.{line break}
Cling to life...and don't dare{line break}
cross me again.{null}

Magus walks past Dalton and stops

{Magus}: ...Unless, that is,{line break}
you want to lose your shot at{line break}
immortality...{null}

Magus leaves
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 06, 2007, 07:35:56 pm
I'm done for a few hours. Is the lasher-following-Magus scene unneeded? I tried to show that a) Zeal and Dalton sent Magus down to find out if he can fight in a roundabout way just to see if he's a threat, and b) Nonetheless, Zeal would throw away such an interesting asset to the beasts, so she sent a lasher just in case.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 08, 2007, 06:56:29 am
Nah, it's good. Since it's a small hack, levelling doesn't matter and the battle sequences are kind of "fillers", so it's always nice to have little scenes like that that integrate the dungeons into the plot.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 09, 2007, 02:56:15 am
Whoa, I had no idea there was more after the quarters scene! I just found out how to take a nap, and I'm on Mt. Woe now. I'm continuing to add dialogue to that thread.

Looks like the second battle on Mt. Woe is a little buggy; it won't start and I can't continue. Guess I'll hit it in TF.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 09, 2007, 04:43:06 pm
Oops, that's where the patch ends anyway. Nevermind.

The Magus-gets-promoted scene works better if Magus comes in at the last minute. And plus, giving him free wander again only means he'd have to cross back to the Palace after crossing over to Enhasa, so it's not that important.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 09, 2007, 07:48:38 pm
Okay, I'm done with the main text. I guess I still have to write incidental dialogue for Zeal Palace...I don't know; maybe we can reduce the number of NPCs in there or something so we have less work? Because I'm also going to write a handful of post-mem events for NPCs who respond to Magus's actions during the course of the story. After all, people will treat him different once word spreads that he's a prophet.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 13, 2007, 06:02:03 pm
Tonight is my last final. If there's any mapping or something else that can be outsourced, I'm ready.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 19, 2007, 02:32:35 pm
Alright, here is the "beta" version of the game. Note that I made the Kajar secret room a different room than the one seen in CT, since I think there would be an inconsistency else. Now it's implied that Queen Zeal sealed the room but that Belthasar simply created another one (before he outright left the whole kingdom).

And here's the list of things which remain to be done:
- battles and monsters
- Beast's Nest last area: I can't remember if there's one planned or if it's actually one of the 2 current areas (see Mapping thread)
- Zeal Palace texts: yeah, we can probably reduce the number of NPCs
- Zeal Palace Dark Wing: the 2 guards have no lines, and there are 2 planned rooms in the middle corridor that we never completed or used; should we simply remove them?
- the ending sequence
- graphic hacking for Dalton's eye, and probably a bit of enemy stat hacking

Quote
# Cut to Crono, Frog, and Ayla asking about Dactyls.
# Cut to Magus walking down a lengthy hall, and a couple flashbacks of the Gurus helping Janus.
# In Zeal Palace near the entrance, a guard tells him that the Queen has no use of him for the remainder of the day, as she is busy with the Mammon Machine.
Was this scrapped? I guess it should in any case, since we will end up having those kinds of flashbacks in Crimson Echoes anyway and we don't want the 2 games to be redundant.

Anyway, I think the Balcony scene is kinda problematic. The player could really be lost after Mt. Woe because there's nothing to suggest that he has to go back to Enhasa, and he can't possibly stumble upon it by chance since it's so far away from Zeal Palace. Perhaps we could move this scene to another location? The high lake near Zeal Palace could be a good spot (see attached picture), since it's close to the Palace and since we can probably map it with the Denadoro Vista tileset; this would conveniently allow us to avoid graphic-hacking a balcony tileset. We could most probably hack it fine, but with six days left it's perhaps not a good idea to try.

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: nightmare975 on December 19, 2007, 04:28:46 pm
Give me the word and I'll make the map. Is there an ocean in that tileset or could I use the Zenan Bridge tileset?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 19, 2007, 06:28:58 pm

I'll get to writing that dialogue tonight. Once everything is done, we can add varied music in certain places (if applicable) so Zeal Palace isn't overused too much. Perhaps JCE can make remixes, or we can implement Far Promise ~ Dream Shore somewhere.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 19, 2007, 11:17:43 pm
Zeal Palace Bedroom Guards

This is the Greater Glory bedroom,
reserved for the principal rulers of
Zeal. None may enter.{full break}
The Queen moved out to the
other room after King Zeal's death
and has not stepped foot in here
since. A sad aura pervades it...{null}

This is the Lesser Glory bedroom,
reserved for non-heir relatives of
the royal family.{full break}
As Queen Zeal's personal quarters,
you are not allowed in except
with her permission.{null}

(Also in the bedroom, let's just put one person on the middle platform at the beginning so it's not totally empty)

(Woman)

It's peaceful here.
The walls, the floor...everything
is soundproofed from the bustle
of the palace.{null}

Lesser Glory Room After You Get Back from Mt. Woe

(Guard)

Heard there's some heavy
construction going on in one of
the Ocean Palace locks today.{full break}
Once Belthasar ditched, Dalton
ordered the slaves to work twice
as hard. He's really pushing to
finish up early.{null}

Zeal Palace Regular Dialogue (once the NPCs are thinned out; these work for any nPC except for the plant lady and a Nu)

(Plant lady)
Hello, visitor.
Have you come to see our gardens?{full break}
Melchior gave me this plant two
weeks ago for my care. He says
it can survive in the most harsh
conditions.{full break}
If he's right, and the earth below
is just sleeping, then one day the
snow will stop and the land will be
like Zeal. It's a viridian wish...{null}

(Nu)
...{delay 03}
Oh, he'll be back, Nu.{null} (deliberately weird, cryptic message not referring to anything in particular)

The cerulean lake is such a nice
retreat. And the palace rises over
with dominion of earth, water, and
air.

Such pale skin...?
Have you come from the land of
snow and ice?{null}

In addition to the Ocean Palace, I've
heard the Gurus are working on
more extravagant inventions.{full break}
But what else do we need once
we're immortal?{null}

I've watched the Earthbound time
to time. They emerge from the caves
in the dead of the day, hunt for sluggish
beasts, and scurry back to safety.{full break}
How can people such as that have
dreams and hopes as we do?{null}

Queen Zeal hit one of her aides last
week. It's something you're not
supposed to talk about, but considering
she did it in front of everyone...{null}

Gaspar and Belthasar sometimes
keep Nu, but I've seen Melchior with
uncanny beings unlike anything else.{null}

Schala's taken good care of Janus,
but even her warmth can't heal his
sadness...{null}

Dalton rose through the ranks with
a bad attitude. Someone should put
that jerk in his place.{null}

Hallway to the Mammon Machine (one woman)

The moment they turned on the
machine months ago, the entire
palace felt alive.{full break}
Such is the magnitude of even
a drop of the god Lavos's crimson
energy.{null}

Hall of the Mammon Machine (just 3 people in there)

(Woman)

They say if you put your ear to
the machine, you can hear a
faint whisper...{null}

(Scientist)

This is the great fire of our
ancestors, which set aflame
the dormant earth and created
our fortunes.{full break}
Once lost, that life-giving fire
now fuels our dreams again.{null}

(Man)

It feels great in here, but...
Could I ever fall asleep by this
thing? No way. The vibrations are
just a little too overwhelming.{null}

POST-Prophet Audience (once Zeal approves of his prophethood; only a few people in each location will actually have changed dialogue)

Enhasa

(Welcome to the city of dreams guy now says...)

Aha, so you're a Prophet!
Do your visions come in dreams?
We must research this possibility!{null}

(Poyozo now says...)

Heard about the news.
So you're a Prophet, eh?
Well, the seals it. Fate exists,
and all our lives are predetermined...{full break}
{Magus}: ...{delay 02}
If a sage knows the future, can
he not then act to change it?{null}

(Our magnificent king woman now says...)

A Prophet...
Can you tell me...will my love
grow? Shall I realize my goals
in the near future?{full break}
I will seek the answers in dreams...{null}

Kajar

(What a raw aura! woman now says...)

So, a Prophet...
I wonder if such an ability is
normal with that kind of
raw magical power?{null}

(The Mammon Machine was designed scientist now says...)

I've heard you are a Prophet.
How unscientific...{full break}
But if the Queen vouches for you,
and welcomes you as guest...
Then there must be some merit
to your claim.{null}

(The Gurus were close guy now says...)

If only you had been on that
fateful journey. Perhaps you might
have felt the Black Wind around
the King, and prevented his death...

Zeal Palace

(Dalton rose through the ranks person now says...)

Wow, your first day here and
you're in the Queen's good graces.
That's gonna make you-know-who
pretty angry.{null}

(Queen Zeal hit one of her aides now says...)

I knew I felt something strange
about you. Will you reveal my
fortunes?{full break}
{Magus}: ...Zeal has but one{line break}
fortune for everyone.{null}

(Such pale skin...? now says...)

I find it hard to believe that
anyone other than an Enlightened
One could possess clairvoyance...{null}

(They say if you put your ear woman in the hall now says...)

Ah, so you can hear the whispers
of time's will...{full break}
Lavos has brought us energy, and
now, a teller of fate. Oh, what
a glorious being...{null} (haha, yes, Lavos did bring Magus to Zeal, after all)
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 20, 2007, 05:20:33 am
Give me the word and I'll make the map. Is there an ocean in that tileset or could I use the Zenan Bridge tileset?
I was thinking about the tileset from {094} Denadoro Mountain Vista, something not huge, perhaps just one screen wide, with the sky at the top, a bit of grass/cliff in the middle and water (layer 3) at the bottom of the screen. However, I just checked the map and the layer 3 appears to be all black because of the palette... But I'm pretty sure it's not a problem. If you make a map with the clouds and cliff, we can probably palette-hack the rest so that we can add a layer 3.

As for the ending sequence... I don't know, here's a suggestion. Perhaps a few, short replays of the game's cutscenes in addition to relevant cutscenes from CT and the "What the Prophet seeks" ending. With no text, a sepia color overlay, and alternating with credits. I guess the last of these cutscenes could be Magus facing the party at North Cape. Then the screen fades to black and we can perhaps show some kind of line from Magus paralleling Schala's "I will find you" line at the end of CC, except this one would be more bitter and probably directed to Lavos, fate, or whatever, rather than Schala, since it's pre-"Magil".

It would be awesome if we could insert an ending artwork before that line, to parallel both the "Schala Kid on the beach" ending clip and the Japanese CT ending artwork... but we don't have a nice Magus/Prophet artwork at our disposal, do we?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 20, 2007, 03:02:13 pm
If maggiekarp has the free time, she might be willing to draw some art. I'll ask her about doing something with the height and width of the Retranslation end screen.

What should it depict? Magus staring out to the sea on the North Cape? I wonder how many colors we're limited to...
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on December 20, 2007, 04:07:53 pm
Whaddaya think of this? I can research the artist and see if contact info is available if you guys happen to find it of interest.

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 20, 2007, 06:20:16 pm
Woah, awesome stuff. It's not North Cape, but it's so neat that it probably doesn't really matter (this just adds to the ambiguity of the ending line); it's definitely a fitting artwork (well in my opinion).
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 20, 2007, 06:30:39 pm
The artist was identified somewhere on this forum, but I'm having a very difficult time finding it. I know that Lord J posted in that thread, and it started as a "who drew this" thing.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 20, 2007, 06:48:13 pm
I'm not sure if we'll have NPCs there or if it'll be a free walking kind of thing, but if we do have people at the Cerulean lake...let's say two...

The source of Zeal's waterfalls and
lakes lies deep beneath here.
Past a certain point, the water
bubbles up or runs out below.{null}

When Zeal sails through storms,
the view from here is amazing. You
can see lightning strike the palace.{null}
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on December 20, 2007, 06:59:44 pm
With regard to that Magus art, it's signed JD for Julie Dillon.

http://jdillon.net/gallery.html

You can see the Magus pic waaay at the bottom there. What a great artist!
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 20, 2007, 07:29:27 pm
I e-mailed her about using it.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 20, 2007, 07:37:28 pm
Oops, I forgot about changing the status screen portrait. Would adding in a new one be very easy? Maggiekarp draws Magus all the freaking time and could probably make a great one by tomorrow. From what I recall, though, my tutorial on adding in new portraits doesn't work because one of the colors is always transparent, and that causes problems.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on December 20, 2007, 07:51:21 pm
If you wanna make him look like Nosferatu, there's always this.

But that's probably not what you're going for.

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Vehek on December 24, 2007, 02:09:48 am
Janus, Queen Zeal, Schala, and finally Magus will staff the tiers from bottom to top; the screen will fade to black and then illuminate for Magus's appearance, at which point the textbox will come up.
Is the part I bolded still in?

{164} - Skyway leading to Kajar

(I wasn't aware Enhasa was throwing a
costume ball today...){full break}
Wha? Oh, uh, nothing...
Going to Kajar, I presume?{null}
Is this line still going to be in, or has it been replaced by the "Another lovely day, isn't it?" line?
Edit-I just realized that I thought this line was supposed to be in the land bridge for so long!
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 24, 2007, 02:25:37 am
I guess it's been replaced...perhaps it should be revived, though. It's a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 24, 2007, 04:06:30 am
Good news. Julie Dillon cleared the use of her Magus artwork in the hack!!
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 24, 2007, 04:15:48 am
{164} - Skyway leading to Kajar

(I wasn't aware Enhasa was throwing a
costume ball today...){full break}
Wha? Oh, uh, nothing...
Going to Kajar, I presume?{null}
Is this line still going to be in, or has it been replaced by the "Another lovely day, isn't it?" line?

Whoa, I missed this line. I'm definitely adding it.

Good news for the artwork!
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 24, 2007, 01:15:10 pm
Just noting that the hack will probably not be finished by tomorrow... It might be on December 26. Well, I guess if push comes to shove we can release it on December 31.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on December 24, 2007, 01:42:59 pm
A complete hack is better than a rushed one, that's for sure. A New Year's gift to the community, perhaps.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 25, 2007, 11:08:27 am
Just a post to note that I completed the Cerulean Lake map (I couldn't help experimenting with it myself...). I used this address from the offset guide to replace the bushes with clouds in the Denadoro tilesets:

361C00   361DFF   DATA   N   "Location Tilesets, 8 bytes each, determines which ""packets"" of graphics are used for each location"   2003.11.13

The clouds appear red like the bushes were but I'm going to palette-hack it.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 26, 2007, 07:26:48 pm
I'm now coding the ending sequence. Here are the scenes that I plan to show (with no text, a yellow color overlay, and credits each time the screen changes):

-Crono's party enters the Throneroom
-The Mystical Knights flee a group of soldiers in a forest
-Alfador meows at the Prophet in the hallway
-Magus attacks Lavos in the Pocket Dimension
-Melchior and Janus are sucked into portals in Algetty
-Zeal is destroyed
-Magus meets Crono's party at North Cape
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 26, 2007, 07:45:14 pm
Should we add one totally new scene? Something mysterious like Magus's entering a portal...
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 27, 2007, 06:03:18 am
Yeah, sounds good. Also I think I'll add these somewhere in the sequence:

-The soldiers who run after the Mystical Knights notice a statue of Magus and stops to look at it
-Dalton stares at the sky on the Blackbird wing
-Magus wakes up near Marle and Lucca (both unconscious) after the OP disaster; he picks up Marle's pendant for a few seconds then leaves it back to her and walks away

Perhaps also a shot of Lucca's house at night, with a silhouette of Magus standing in a shadowy corner? or is it too direct?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 27, 2007, 02:10:28 pm
It sounds like a decent tie in. We should just be prepared to explain what we mean by it if asked.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Vehek on December 27, 2007, 02:38:30 pm
Quote
-Magus wakes up near Marle and Lucca (both unconscious) after the OP disaster; he picks up Marle's pendant for a few seconds then leaves it back to her and walks away
Will this contradict the Japanese version? The people in the Japanese version say that the stranger (Magus) washed ashore after the party did.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 27, 2007, 03:02:12 pm
Good catch. I wanted to show that Magus began to "trust" the party (he could have gone with the pendant instead), but if it contradicts CT, I'm cutting this scene then.

Also, we can't add a scene showing Magus in Lucca's house if we replace the 1000 AD house tilesets with the font for Serge's diary. We could replace a different tileset instead, but maybe having both stuff gives too much presence to Radical Dreamers canon? Which stuff should we keep: the two excerpts from Serge's diary, the Magus-in-Lucca's-house scene, both of them, none?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 27, 2007, 04:23:05 pm
We can just use ASCII text for the Magus thing, right? But I thought 1000 A.D. was being replaced with the ending art for some reason.

Canonically, I sort of made it fit with Crimson Echoes by having Alphard touch the Flame and get vaporized (actually scooped up by Lavos as a reserve envoy and because he's the most genetically advanced magic user at that time). Magus can still be in Lucca's house at any time in the future (after Crimson Echoes, after Chrono Cross even), and writing Serge, Radical Dreamers implies that we're just taking something from RD out of context here and using it for our own point.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 27, 2007, 05:07:00 pm
Oh yeah, I mixed up the two replacements. The ending art is supposed to replace the 1000 A.D. tileset, and the diary lines are supposed to replace the Millenial Fair tileset. I guess we can have the ending art replace the Millenial Fair tileset instead, and the diary lines be made with ASCII.

I'll have the ending sequence coded by tomorrow (well, tomorrow GMT+1), then we can start inserting the graphic hacks and beta-test the game a bit.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on December 27, 2007, 05:20:42 pm
I'm not going to do any in-game tests for the ending art 'till tomorrow evening at earliest (still finalizing palettes -- getting better), so no work lost on my part if you decide to use the Milennial Fair tileset instead for the ending art, Chrono'99. Vehek told me earlier where the fair tilesets are, so I'll be good to go either way. I'll be sure to stay away from the telepod tileset due to its shared palette with the Zeal Palace room. I just need to do a quick decompress and make sure we've got enough tiles to work with in the fair tilesets.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 29, 2007, 07:17:49 pm
Phew. Took longer than expected, but here it is: the almost-final version of the game! Coding the ending went relatively fast, but tweaking the monster stats to achieve a good balance was difficult. I ended up removing all the shops, money, and tech points. See for yourself how it goes, I'm too lazy to explain lol. I guess the main "gimmick" of my tweaks is that 1/ you must exploit each enemy's elemental (or physical) weakness, and 2/ you must use your Tonics and Ethers wisely because you can't buy them.

Note that I moved a few NPCs around to either avoid some visual bugs or better guide the players.

Anyway, anyone knows what's the address for the ASCII text graphics? We need to replace some unusued characters with a comma and some numbers (3, 5, 7, 9).

EDIT: Oh and I wrote the Special Thanks section of the credits like that but it can be changed or expanded. I'm not really used to writing them (this got to be the first completed fanproject I ever participated in).

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Vehek on December 29, 2007, 08:35:34 pm
At the beginning, it goes to the "Magus unlocks Magic Wall" instead of going to the gate cave and Crono, Marle, Frog remain in the party.
The Cerulean Lake looks really nice!
Is this line still going to be in, or has it been replaced by the "Another lovely day, isn't it?" line?
Edit-I just realized that I thought this line was supposed to be in the land bridge for so long!
After posting that, I realized that the line was supposed to be in a Skyway, not the Land Bridge. Oh well, there's probably little reason for anyone to hang out in a skyway instead of the Zeal islands.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 30, 2007, 01:02:05 am
The Cerulean Lake is captivatingly beautiful. It is like the secret jewel of the project in itself...

That image I've attached is godly. The water is already dreamlike, but to stroll up to the edge with nothing but the infinite clouds beyond Zeal awaiting your eyes...

I guess we have that classic dilemma now. The image I've attached is so striking that it could be used as a project screenshot. But it gives away the surprise.

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on December 31, 2007, 10:14:39 am
If you want to show a picture of the location, maybe we can have this one with the textbox. It hides half of the screen so it still keeps a bit of surprise for players (then again, it shows the Nus...). Note that I changed the color of the textbox, as you can see. How does it look? I tried to have a good balance of blueish-purpleish.

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: justin3009 on December 31, 2007, 11:20:56 am
Looks really nice.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: nightmare975 on January 02, 2008, 04:53:56 pm
I take it we're releasing it tonight?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 02, 2008, 06:15:12 pm
What's the status of the ending art idea? I'm back in action now; go ahead and release and I can follow up with a separate patch if you guys still want it in later. Unless it's been taken care of?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 02, 2008, 06:49:26 pm
You can pick up where you left off. We'll wait until your patch is ready. Oh, and hit the interview questions after, and I'll simulrelease the interview and feature.

I'm going to submit the news story to Destructoid and other sites which ran our Retranslation news before.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 02, 2008, 07:11:33 pm
Will do; thanks for waiting up. Hope this doesn't delay things too long -- doing my best to make the results worth it. Hoping for an ending pic patch tomorrow.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 07, 2008, 04:11:30 pm
Anyone want to record a few scenes of playing Prophet's Guile for a Youtube preview video? The scenes would be limited, but could show

The music would be "The Boy Who Feared Time" by OneUpStudios, and would start directly with the electric guitar around 0:40. So the video could only be like 1.5 to 2 minutes long. Anyone want to give it a try?

Also, I'm assuming this forum becomes public upon release?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 07, 2008, 04:32:34 pm
Do we have any way of converting ZSNES movie files to AVIs at all? MPEGs would do as well.

If so, the clips could be joined, demuxed, and remuxed with the desired music.

Eh? Looks like there might be a way to dump video straight to AVI. Gotta find out how they did this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkVDmDpjWyI

I still have to read through this yet, but it looks promising...
http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3103
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on January 07, 2008, 04:41:16 pm
Not sure about ZSNES, but I think SNES9x can directly record into AVI files.

I'll be away for the next couple hours, so here's a patch with the recent reported bugs corrected, just in case we're ready to release before I'm back or something. Don't hesitate to report other bugs or typos if you find other ones though.

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Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 07, 2008, 04:45:01 pm
I'll try the mencoder ZMV -> AVI method with ZSNES and throw up a test vid of Magus' status screen. If SNES9x can record in AVI directly, that will probably work better though.

EDIT: Awright, I'm just converting to SNES9x for this one. Way easier than what I was going to try; thanks for pointing this out Chrono'99.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 07, 2008, 05:23:05 pm
The videos come out pretty good. Take a gander at this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/82054154/PGIntroTest.avi.html

I've dabbled in video editing, and could take care of demuxing and remuxing as well as splicing the clips together I imagine. But I don't know how to do fancy transitions between scenes and fade-ins, that sort of thing. Is anyone here really really experienced in video editing?

In any case, we can capture the necessary scenes very easily with SNES9x.

I'm starting anew, so I can gather the following on my way:

Battle at Magus's castle (that's the intro, right?)
Magus's status screen
Magus walking on the 12000 B.C. / Zeal overworlds
Magus walking through Kajar or Zeal Palace (just a walk, or a walk and talk?)
Magus talking to Queen Zeal as the prophet

If others are interested in doing captures and have appropriate savestates (oh shoot -- have people been playing through in SNES9x all this time? I don't think there's any way to convert savestates from ZSNES to whatever format the SNES9x uses, is there?), all you need to do is File -> Record AVI (yay for user-friendliness :P ). I'd recommend using the XviD MPEG-4 codec on its default compression settings, since I've never had a problem with videos that result from that codec.

EDIT: Ooh, I've found a fade-in / fade-out effects filter for virtualdub, my video editing program of choice. If nobody else can take care of the actual video itself, I'd be very interested in giving it a shot. Zeality, can you throw up a link to the music file you wanted to use for this?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 07, 2008, 05:40:54 pm
Yep, that's the intro, and just a walk is needed with maybe one NPC. I'll edit the music now that there's a definite contributor.

I'll begin putting the interview on an encyclopedia page in case Ramsus is unable to upload it for me.

Edit: I'm not sure if they're good at editing, but justin3009 and Vehek have both uploaded gameplay videos of their own making before.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 07, 2008, 05:46:19 pm
Alrighty. It'll take me about a day to get all the clips gathered, smushed together, and demuxed (with 90% of that time devoted to gathering).

If anyone happens to be around the later scenes and is using SNES9x, it would be awesome if you could do some captures and upload them somewhere, maybe on Rapidshare or another file uploading service, since the vids will likely be too large to attach on the forum if we want maximum quality.

Ooh, that's right, I've seen the vids done by Justin and Vehek. If they'd like to handle the editing, that's fine too since they have more experience than I. Let's get all the clips done and see where the cards fall.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 07, 2008, 06:02:25 pm
BG music:

http://chronofan.com/Zeality/PGMovie.mp3

I'll prepare submissions to ROMHacking.net, Destructoid, and the other places.

...Damn, I guess we're virtually ready to release. Uh...well, time to get cracking on that interview...
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 07, 2008, 06:23:25 pm
Not that it matters yet, but should we have the regular sound effects / music for the captured intro scene and then start the BG music upon fading in to Magus doing his various rounds in 12,000BC? The beamdown to the Ocean Palace definitely seems very appropriate for the last 6 ~ 7 seconds of the BG music clip.
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 07, 2008, 06:24:48 pm
Sure. Hah, the posts continue to shrink!
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 08, 2008, 05:50:04 pm
Almost there:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Trigger:_Prophet%27s_Guile.html

That will do until Stories/46 becomes active.

Now, I'll prepare all the submissions, and we'll get this party started...
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: FaustWolf on January 08, 2008, 06:27:32 pm
Woot, woot! *blows on a kazoo and throws on a Burger King crown*

Still working on the preview vid for Youtube. Does the Compendium have its own Youtube account, or do Chrono'99 or Zeality have one? Justin, Vehek and I could put the preview vids on our accounts too. If we do the tags well, hopefully the Prophet's Guile vids will be the first search returns for anyone looking into "Chrono Trigger", "Chrono Cross", "Magus", "RPG", "Square", etc., on Youtube.

Is this forum public now?
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 08, 2008, 06:31:15 pm
I've got an account.

ALL RIGHT, SPRINGTIME OF YOUTH RELEASE!!

(http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/b/1/2276/2276420_grimmjow16a8mi.jpg)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/-Nama-/Grimmjow/Grimjaw55.jpg)

(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7029/grimmjowht9.jpg)

GRIMMJOW SAYS HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, I CAN'T WAIT TO BE KING
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: justin3009 on January 08, 2008, 06:37:49 pm
Ya, I have plenty of Chrono vids on my acct as it is, adding more wouldn't hurt =]
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: nightmare975 on January 08, 2008, 07:31:45 pm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Christmas release?
Post by: Chrono'99 on January 08, 2008, 07:32:59 pm
W00t! I can put on my new avatar now lol!