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Title: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on August 24, 2007, 11:20:45 pm
Well, I've started work on trying to make a 3D Image of Zeal, but it's going to take me a while to finish. So I've decided to show you guys the progress of my work. :D

Right now, I haven't finished all the kinks in the model and I have yet to texture it.

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Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Magus on August 25, 2007, 01:02:56 am
Hmm...as one modeler to another, I would rather do it with a height map rather than manual modeling.

Plus, if you use the method of the heightmap, you can use a ambient occlusion and get self shadowing for your texture taken care of as well. Plus, a heightmap provides more precision and in the end, less polygons and better results.

But good start either way. Hope to see more  :D
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on August 25, 2007, 01:05:03 am
Hmm...as one modeler to another, I would rather do it with a height map rather than manual modeling.

Plus, if you use the method of the heightmap, you can use a ambient occlusion and get self shadowing for your texture taken care of as well. Plus, a heightmap provides more precision and in the end, less polygons and better results.

But good start either way. Hope to see more  :D

I don't think Maya can use heightmaps. Not sure, I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the advice though!
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Magus on August 25, 2007, 01:58:41 am
I'm 100% positive Maya can use Heightmaps, it is a professional program and should support it. In most cases, it might be called  "Noise" or the "Noise" effect that takes a black and white image and applies noise to the mesh. That is what Blender does.

Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on August 25, 2007, 03:26:40 pm
Eh I like the way I work. No offense.

Update, made Zeal Palace, and some of the caves.

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Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Cooper on August 25, 2007, 04:00:33 pm
Nice work.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Magus on August 25, 2007, 06:10:00 pm
Eh I like the way I work. No offense.

Update, made Zeal Palace, and some of the caves.

Therefore, I'll let you do it the way you want, because nothing sucks more when someone else tells a artist how to make something, trust me, that sucks a lot.

But, if I may suggest something, try making the castle and buildings low poly. So it looks more like Stonework, right now it looks like clay.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on August 25, 2007, 08:40:59 pm
But, if I may suggest something, try making the castle and buildings low poly. So it looks more like Stonework, right now it looks like clay.

Yeah, I'll do that. Save me some kilobytes too. :D
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Magus on August 25, 2007, 08:43:41 pm
Yeah, plus it'll save a lot of Render time since theres less polygons.

The Terrain looks really good for manual working and it should turn out really good once you get it textured. Just make sure you get a good Shadow and Light Map on there as well to make it look sweet. You can ask me if you want some help on making shadow and light maps.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on August 26, 2007, 02:04:48 pm
Shadow and light maps huh? I'll look into that.

New update, finished the land bridge, and finished Kajar. Lowered the polys on the objects by 1/3, any lower and they become too blocky.

I'll be working on textures soon, I want to finish everything else before I start that up.

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Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Glennleo on August 26, 2007, 02:07:18 pm
Looking pretty nice there nightmare.

Wish I had some artistic talent to add something to this great undertaking called Dream Splash!.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on August 27, 2007, 04:59:30 pm
Well, I'm at school so I have a better graphics card.

And here's an update! :D

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Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Kyronea on August 27, 2007, 05:47:37 pm
Looking good so far. Damn it...I need to figure out what I'm going to do for Dream Splash already.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Glennleo on August 27, 2007, 08:24:37 pm
Looking good so far. Damn it...I need to figure out what I'm going to do for Dream Splash already.

No kidding. So do I, and it won't be easy since classes have begun!
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on August 30, 2007, 06:08:01 pm
Well, here's hopfully the last update before I begin texturing.

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Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Kebrel on August 30, 2007, 06:12:57 pm
It seems like those back hills that the capital is on should be larger higher.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Cooper on August 31, 2007, 04:17:46 pm
Not bad so far.  :)
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Lakonthegreat on September 03, 2007, 01:06:52 am
That's amazing. I can't wait to see the finished product!
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on September 03, 2007, 12:27:43 pm
Yeah, I would have worked on it this weekend, but since I left my most finished product at school, I'm unable to work >_>

UPDATE: Started texturing, the island is being a bitch right know, so no texture on that for now.

EDIT: Wow, what do you know? I forgot to post the pic >_>

EDIT 2: Fixed, here's the pic.

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Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on September 13, 2007, 01:47:54 am
Sorry I haven't been working on this, my teacher has given me actual work to do, so I haven't had time.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: satchel_dawg on October 26, 2007, 09:10:56 pm
it looks very interesting, i always have been interested in 3d versions of chrono maps, it's quite buetiful.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: sage on October 26, 2007, 10:28:50 pm
Wow, that's looking really good there man :D
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on October 27, 2007, 12:00:21 am
Thanks!

My dilemma is now I the texture mapping is fucking up, plus all my actual schoolwork has derailed me.

It will be done, I promise.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Lavodox on October 31, 2007, 04:40:23 pm
wow...what an incredible model. I applaud your idea, nightmare. 3D graphic art...nice ^_^.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: RoxSilverFox on June 06, 2008, 09:12:42 pm
Nice I'd love to see the finished version. I tried to model zeal myself once but failed miserably
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 06, 2008, 09:50:58 pm
I just saw this for the first time!  I wish it had been finished!
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Satoh on June 07, 2008, 01:19:14 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a big pile of NURBS isn't it?

If so, I would seriously recommend using subdiv objects, they act like nurbs, but you can edit them like a polymesh... and you can make creases and such... much... much... easier... and with more precision. for instance you can make the mountains a little bit sharper, without making them look like cubes or whatever...

BTW, this is NOT me teling you how to do your business, it is only a suggestion... from one maya user, to another...

Are you in school for modeling or game design? (Like me XD; ) Either way I wish you the best of luck in all endevours... and hope for your ability to expediate your work so you have more time of your own... (college work suxz... but that's just my opinion)
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on June 07, 2008, 04:14:41 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a big pile of NURBS isn't it?

If so, I would seriously recommend using subdiv objects, they act like nurbs, but you can edit them like a polymesh... and you can make creases and such... much... much... easier... and with more precision. for instance you can make the mountains a little bit sharper, without making them look like cubes or whatever...

BTW, this is NOT me teling you how to do your business, it is only a suggestion... from one maya user, to another...

Are you in school for modeling or game design? (Like me XD; ) Either way I wish you the best of luck in all endevours... and hope for your ability to expediate your work so you have more time of your own... (college work suxz... but that's just my opinion)

Actually, they are Polygons. I prefer to use polygons. My highschool teacher bought Maya for our computer tech class.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Satoh on June 07, 2008, 04:44:59 pm
...

Actually, they are Polygons. I prefer to use polygons. My highschool teacher bought Maya for our computer tech class.

O.o; that must be a loooooooot of polys.... Oh well XD keep at it... As for me... I should get back to doing the inside of Zeal XD

ganbatte
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Gluttony on June 19, 2008, 01:20:19 pm
So!.......I'm guessing this didn't get finished? Too bad, it was looking quite lovely.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: nightmare975 on June 19, 2008, 10:46:53 pm
Sadly, the almost finished project was on my school computer, I believe I lost it sometime in January.

I plan to make something else soon.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Satoh on June 19, 2008, 11:31:50 pm
Sadly, the almost finished project was on my school computer, I believe I lost it sometime in January.

I plan to make something else soon.

Still have access to Maya? If so what version?
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Schala Zeal on June 27, 2008, 08:16:07 pm
I found something on deviantART that simply took my breath away:

http://encelia.deviantart.com/art/The-Sky-Kingdom-of-Zeal-3327941
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 29, 2008, 11:35:46 pm
I can't see it for some reason.... dangit!
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Glennleo on June 30, 2008, 03:12:59 pm
I can't see it for some reason.... dangit!

Same.
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Schala Zeal on July 01, 2008, 05:26:09 am
I can't see it for some reason.... dangit!

Same.

Oh! I see. The enlargement will show. It did for me anyway...
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Kebrel on July 01, 2008, 06:02:25 am
(http://fc07.deviantart.com/images/i/2003/41/8/1/The_Sky_Kingdom_of_Zeal_v_1.jpg)
^this^
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Schala Zeal on July 01, 2008, 06:23:12 am
Yep, ain't it a beauty?
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on July 01, 2008, 07:31:06 am
Ahhhhhhh!  I like it!
Title: Re: Nightmare's 3D Project
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on July 01, 2008, 10:53:51 pm
Looks great!