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Title: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Mystic Frog King on July 09, 2007, 01:16:18 pm
I was thinking about this while watching advent children, who would win? In my personal opinion, I think... uhhh... I think... Gah, it's to hard for me to decide.

Oh, wait...

Anyway, I am not responsible for any mess, australian-style barbecue or nuclear disaster that occurs due to this thread.
Quote from: The Bible
And cupn00dles thus spoke:
If this was about Sehiroth vs. Magus, this might have been worth thinking about.
As The Bible says, this great sin was caused by cupn00dles. Yes. Yes indeed.

Now go to your room and think about what- Erm, yeah... Discuss.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Romana on July 09, 2007, 01:20:20 pm
Gai.

(http://i15.tinypic.com/4ucddhs.jpg)
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Mystic Frog King on July 09, 2007, 01:24:30 pm
Yes, I agree. Very astute of you.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: V_Translanka on July 11, 2007, 09:00:58 pm
I'll give you the rundown of the responses this thread will undoutably get...

MAGUS IS COOL!

SEPHIROTH IS COOL!

THE MASAMUNE IS COOL!

MAGUS BROKE THE MASAMUNE!

NO, THAT WAS THE GRANDLEON!

CHRONO TRIGGER!

FINAL FANTASY VII!

I CAN'T DECIDE WHO'S COOLER!

I'M TOO SCHOOL FOR COOLIO!

KOOL-AID? I LOVE KOOL-AID! KOOL-AID IS KOOL!

MAGUS & SEPHIROTH ARE KOOL!

I BET MAGUS DRINKS PURPLE KOOL-AID AND SEPHIROTH DRINKS BLACK KOOL-AID! GROSS!

...aaand...scene.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on July 11, 2007, 11:52:24 pm
That's a wrap folks! Print it and ship it.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Magus068 on July 12, 2007, 12:34:25 am
Both are freakinly powerful & cool too... V has a point there, let's leave it as a draw.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Freakyfrankie on July 12, 2007, 12:37:57 am
I'm gonna be the flame shield for all those who agree that Sephiroth is overrated.

Magus all the way, baby.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Magus on July 12, 2007, 03:27:22 am
Both characters are awesome i must say. ( Awesome as in...Awe inspiring, not Awesome as in "hehe, Sephiroth pwns he so awesome, teh n00b")

However, CT was the first RPG I played, I played it when I was 12, and honestly, at that age, your easily influenced, and this game got to me, and still does. The game was a incredible experience for me, and then I see Magus, some dark, villian like character, and then I later find out you can play as him. That, was just simply the best.

So for me, I guess it boils down to which character got to you/affected you most, and it would be Magus.


( Magus pwns anyway, so who cares about the rant  :lol: )
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Chrono'99 on July 12, 2007, 11:17:03 am
Magus vanishes into thin air everytime there's "too much characters" (see Chrono Cross). So, since Sephiroth has so much clones of himself, he instantly wins, sorry.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: V_Translanka on July 17, 2007, 08:35:48 pm
Magus vanishes into thin air everytime there's "too much characters" (see Chrono Cross). So, since Sephiroth has so much clones of himself, he instantly wins, sorry.

Naw, Magus was just too busy to be in CC, since he was off kickin ass in Radical Dreamers. Eh? And using that little bit of RD that appears in CC, technically he IS in CC! Or something...

Freakyfrankie reminded me that I did indeed forget a couple responses...

MAGUS IS TEH OVERRATED!

SEPHIROTH IS TEH OVERRATED!

I'M TEH OVERRATED!

OVERRATED IS OVERRATED!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Freakyfrankie on July 17, 2007, 08:53:49 pm
I dunno, Magus seems to have more depth than Sephiroth. Sephiroth just seems like a generic 'mad villain' character. Sure he had a cool reason to be a mad villain, but it's not as psychologically compelling as say... Silent Hill 4's pseudo-antagonist Walter Sullivan. I think Walter's story was enough to make me actually feel for the character. Sephiroth just did stuff that made you hate him.

Magus makes you feel for him a little too-- he was rejected by his mother, he was the 'outcast' in Zeal who was unable to use magic, and his only loved one, the girl who cared for him when no one else would, Schala, was tossed out into god-knows-where time/space. He spends his life searching for her, and y'never really know if he's gonna find her in his life time.

AND V IS TEH OVERRATED~~!!!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 17, 2007, 10:31:17 pm
Yeah, one of the most poignant lines about Sephiroth comes from AC's opening:

Quote
When he found out about the terrible experiments that made him, he began to hate Shinra. And then, over time, he began to hate everything.

(http://mokkori67.free.fr/dvd-trailer/Sephiroth/Sephiroth3.jpg)

Seeing him walk into the flames with that narrative was powerful, and gave him much-needed characterization. His one-dimensional villainy became an incredible concentration of angry, hateful willpower. And then, he exuded such grace, charm, mysteriousness, and profoundness before the final battle...

It would seem so easy for some little kid to say "AHHAA WOW HE  HATES EVERYTHING..>SO FRICKIN COOL", bleah. But if you can grasp that aspect of his character on the level the developers intended, it transcends that "SEPHIROTHLOL" feeling. Especially if you've experienced those sentiments...
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Freakyfrankie on July 18, 2007, 04:07:32 am
>.>

So... Screw pseudo-complex storylines. Seph's still Magus's man-ho. Meh-eheheh.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Lu Su on July 20, 2007, 03:03:36 pm
i vote Sephiroth
he is my inspiration why he is evil, he is evil, i'm an EVIL
magus on the other hand joind the forces of good and as we all know:
Evil will always win because good is dumb
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Glennleo on July 20, 2007, 06:10:37 pm
Evil will always win because good is dumb

I love that quote.  :lol:

Anyways, I had to choose Magus over Sephiroth.
For me it goes Magus > Sephiroth > Crono.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: V_Translanka on July 20, 2007, 07:14:55 pm
Quote from: ZeaLitY
Seeing him walk into the flames with that narrative was powerful, and gave him much-needed characterization.

I've heard this before, and although I'm not entirely sure I agree with it, my feelings about stuff has never stopped me from posting such...But narration in movies is just lazy cinematics. 8)

Quote from: Freakyfrankie
AND V IS TEH OVERRATED~~!!!

I'm fairly sure I went over that...

Quote from: Myself
I'M TEH OVERRATED!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on July 22, 2007, 02:23:06 pm
I'm gonna be the flame shield for all those who agree that Sephiroth is overrated.

Magus all the way, baby.
Me too. Sephy is cool and all but magus is much more deep and has a great role in CT thus making magus COOLER.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Chrono Master on July 23, 2007, 01:06:53 pm
Any of the Characters from Chrono trigger can Pwn Sephiroth. That means the Imp, Giga Gaia, Kino, MasaMune, Toma, Gina (100% chance of pwnage), the Red Nu,  Nu, the Gurus of Life, Reason and Time, Slash, and Schala. XD
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on July 23, 2007, 04:48:49 pm
Any of the Characters from Chrono trigger can Pwn Sephiroth. That means the Imp, Giga Gaia, Kino, MasaMune, Toma, Gina (100% chance of pwnage), the Red Nu,  Nu, the Gurus of Life, Reason and Time, Slash, and Schala. XD
word, Those damn imps are TOUGH.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Magus068 on July 24, 2007, 08:18:28 am
Any of the Characters from Chrono trigger can Pwn Sephiroth. That means the Imp, Giga Gaia, Kino, MasaMune, Toma, Gina (100% chance of pwnage), the Red Nu,  Nu, the Gurus of Life, Reason and Time, Slash, and Schala. XD
word, Those damn imps are TOUGH.

Hell, I bet Gato can pwn Sephiroth.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Chrono Master on July 24, 2007, 06:28:52 pm
Any of the Characters from Chrono trigger can Pwn Sephiroth. That means the Imp, Giga Gaia, Kino, MasaMune, Toma, Gina (100% chance of pwnage), the Red Nu,  Nu, the Gurus of Life, Reason and Time, Slash, and Schala. XD
word, Those damn imps are TOUGH.

Hell, I bet Gato can pwn Sephiroth.

its so true that I feel for Sephiroth's humiliation at the defeat of Gato thr rapping robot!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on July 25, 2007, 09:50:29 pm
Any of the Characters from Chrono trigger can Pwn Sephiroth. That means the Imp, Giga Gaia, Kino, MasaMune, Toma, Gina (100% chance of pwnage), the Red Nu,  Nu, the Gurus of Life, Reason and Time, Slash, and Schala. XD
word, Those damn imps are TOUGH.

Hell, I bet Gato can pwn Sephiroth.

its so true that I feel for Sephiroth's humiliation at the defeat of Gato thr rapping robot!
In a live performance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6xqwBXT3kw
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Azala on July 28, 2007, 09:03:21 pm
Well, let's think about this. Sephiroth wields the Masamune. Magus broke the Masamune. Therefore, Magus broke Sephiroth's sword. So, we are forced to conclude that magus beats Sephiroth.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Magus068 on July 29, 2007, 02:23:18 am
Well, let's think about this. Sephiroth wields the Masamune. Magus broke the Masamune. Therefore, Magus broke Sephiroth's sword. So, we are forced to conclude that magus beats Sephiroth.

Sounds reasonable!  :lol:
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Deus Chisa on July 29, 2007, 04:22:39 am
Let's assume this is max power Magus.  That is, the version of him in the Ocean Palace right before he gets owned.

Vs. Nibelheim Sephiroth - Magus wins.  In this form, Sephiroth is just another mortal, albeit one with great strength from Jenova cells.  Yes, he torched the town.  But he had a mastered fire materia to do it with, it wasn't all his power.  Whereas Magus could have atomized the place with dark matter.  Just too great a power disparity.

Vs. FFVII Main Story Sephiroth - Once again, a huge power difference.  But in this case, Sephy does the victory dance.  Why? Jenova, by itself, is a Lavos-level opponent.  It survived the Northern Crater impact.  It messed with the lifestream and people's minds.  It massacred most of the Cetra race, which could draw upon the planet's power to an extreme level.  And Sephiroth made it his slave.  Yeah, our favorite warlock is screwed.

Vs. AC Sephiroth - ...umm, I haven't seen AC.  This shames me as a devoted.  Can someone else take this one?
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 29, 2007, 12:28:04 pm
Spoilers...

Sephiroth. Nomura states in the character interviews that Cloud was working like hell while Sephy barely exerted himself the entire time. Sephiroth should obviously win, but because Cloud has some vague realization of intangibly caring for someone (he's a shadow of his FF7 great characterization), he does Omnislash and wins. Other than that, it's a lopsided fight. Sephiroth emerges, speaks wonderfully profound words, creates a maelstrom from corrupted lifestream, and proceeds to rule!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Azala on July 29, 2007, 03:27:11 pm
Well, at least we can all agree that Azala can totally own Sephiroth...
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on July 30, 2007, 10:03:50 pm
Well, at least we can all agree that Azala can totally own Sephiroth...
You are obsessed with azala. :lol:
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: nightmare975 on July 30, 2007, 10:37:17 pm
Well, at least we can all agree that Azala can totally own Sephiroth...
You are obsessed with azala. :lol:

(http://cc.herograw.org/Zeality/picardno.jpg)
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on July 31, 2007, 05:58:16 pm
Well, at least we can all agree that Azala can totally own Sephiroth...
You are obsessed with azala. :lol:

(http://cc.herograw.org/Zeality/picardno.jpg)
Okay, whats the star-trek man about THIS time.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Romana on July 31, 2007, 06:36:07 pm
Just you, Korro. Just you.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Azala on July 31, 2007, 07:13:59 pm
You are obsessed with azala. :lol:

I AM Azala, foolish ape!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on August 01, 2007, 01:44:00 am
You are obsessed with azala. :lol:

I AM Azala, foolish ape!
and you are obsessed withyourself, I mean. Talking in third person....
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Azala on August 01, 2007, 06:23:27 pm
You are obsessed with azala. :lol:

I AM Azala, foolish ape!
and you are obsessed withyourself, I mean. Talking in third person....

Yes, I'm glad you see it my way, primate!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on August 01, 2007, 10:12:57 pm
It must do you dismay to have Kino as your current rank Icon.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Azala on August 02, 2007, 12:03:53 am
It must do you dismay to have Kino as your current rank Icon.

Gah, you bet! We reptites have no assosiation with you pitiful monkeys! You can be certain that I will dispose of the horrid icon at ONCE!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on August 02, 2007, 12:58:48 am
Of course, THEN it will be a knight, then an aceia dragoon, and well... most of them are humans. good luck getting 3000 posts for the lavos icon!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Azala on August 02, 2007, 01:26:42 am
Of course, THEN it will be a knight, then an aceia dragoon, and well... most of them are humans. good luck getting 3000 posts for the lavos icon!

...Wait. You're telling me there is no Reptite icon?! Blasphemy! I'll have the creator of the site hanged for this!
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Korro on August 02, 2007, 02:04:59 am
Fiend!  :lee:
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: Glennleo on August 02, 2007, 10:46:55 am
As much as I enjoy these Somebody vs. Somebody Else threads, they always go waaaay off topic, and lose their point after page 1 and a half.

I don't want to rain on people's fun parades, but I'm just sick of these stupid topics being listed in my new replies of my posts.
It isn't just Korro and Azala(I l<3 you guys!), I just hate the Somebody vs. Somebody Else topics in general.
Title: Re: Magus Vs. Sephiroth
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 02, 2007, 01:25:15 pm
Okay, Sephiroth wins this one too.

At least Magus drew some blood!

(http://cc.herograw.org/Zeality/Sephiroth__by_Milwa_cz.jpg)