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Title: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on June 13, 2007, 04:10:13 am
Not to diss whoever's in charge of the final entries in the Encyclopedia, but every now and again I find errors that really get to me. A typo here or there and an awkward phrase are okay, but sometimes it feels like the articles were written by an 8-year-old Thai boy.

Quote from: CC Characters- Lisa
Lisa is the son of Funguy and a rival to Leena concerning dates.

Now I'm okay with a lot of the...uh, fan interpretation that goes into these things sometimes... but a gender swap for a totally unambiguous character?

I know I'm new to this forum, but I've been browsing the site for quite some time. It provides me with tons of information and images I wouldn't be able to find anywhere else on the web, so it pains me to see these things compiled so unprofessionally.

I don't blame anyone for these errors- everyone needs an editor, sometimes, especially with the workload involved with this site. With the staggering amount of Chrono-stuff on this site I'd be surprised if there weren't so many errors... but as quoted above, sometimes it's just ridiculous.


I don't want to say "Hey, give me the editing job, guys!", so I'll just ask y'all to consider getting an editor or two sometime soon.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on June 13, 2007, 03:28:53 pm
There's really nobody actively working on the Encyclopedia wiki, although Zeality still does some work on it from time to time.

Can you do me a favor and track down as many examples as you can from various parts of the site? That way I can check the page revisions and see if the problem is mostly just content from a few specific contributors from before we closed the wiki to outside authoring or if it's certain sections that may have been rushed and are still in a first draft stage. Maybe then we can do an audit to find and clean up broken content in the Encyclopedia.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on June 13, 2007, 03:52:45 pm
Will do, but it might take me a while. I'll post what I find later today, okay?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on June 13, 2007, 05:40:24 pm
Well, after going through the seven main characters of CT, I've decided that just about every page is gonna need a slight rewrite here or there for awkward phrases, sentence structures, typos, wrong words, etc... The really glaring errors should probably just be posted as they're come across in this thread.


I'll go ahead and post what I've got, though.



Ayla's Entry (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Ayla.html)
- "Ayla Sprite Sheet" is typed at the top of the images for no particular reason (there's already a link at the bottom of the images)
- General awkward sentences

Crono's Entry (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Crono.html)
- One of the Alpha previews in the images does not actually have Crono in it
- Several awkward sentence, run-ons and overly-used semi-colons

Frog's Entry (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Frog.html)
- "When King Guardia sent Cyrus to the Denadoro Mts to recover the lost Masamune..." Cyrus left to get the Hero Badge away from that Frog thing and wanted to see the legendary sword. Guardia didn't send him out, and actually seemed concerned about this journey
- "At the North Cape, Frog was offered a final chance to kill Magus in a duel, but maturely declined." Fanficland, but it can't be helped. I would omit the "maturely declined" part unless it goes on to explain that while there was a choice in CT, the sequels suggest that Magus lives
- Incomplete list of single techs at the top of the page
- Glenn's name is misspelled atleast once
- Several awkward sentences and wrong words used (i.e. "not being able to alter the death of Cyrus..." ought to be "prevent" instead), run-ons

Lucca's Entry (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lucca.html)
- "Alacrity" should be exchanged for a more natural-sounding word. "Eagerness", maybe.
- General sentence scructure errors and those DAMNED SEMI-COLONS

Magus's Entry (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Magus.html)
- "Erstwhile" is not only a weird word- it also appears to be used wrong.
- IIRC, Magus didn't banish the gurus. That was all Zeal, baby.
- "Powerless and prostrate" should probably be changed to omit prostate. Alliteration is only okay when we get the words.
- Some awkward sentences here or there.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Marle.html
- Forgets to mention that Marle is the best character. Actually, I found no errors in this one! Needs a fresh set of eyes, perhaps?

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Robo.html
- Awkward phrase here or there, but seems to be okay.


Searching through each entry one at a time is gonna be hell, and I'll probably skip some big errors because of tired eyes, so I probably shouldn't do it that way. I'll try to get more up before tonight, but this is the sort of thing that I come across randomly...

...I'm in for a lot of trying to understand CC's plot tonight, I think D:
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on June 13, 2007, 09:47:10 pm
Ugh, I realize I've never actually read a lot of these pages before... Now that I am, it's looking more and more like we might have to initiate an Encyclopedia style audit project.

Just looking at the Crono entry alone... while a lot has been added to the page's content, the main text has barely changed since June 4th, 2004, which is why it sounds so rough-draftish. Not once did anybody have the guts to ruthlessly edit it.

The problem with such a project though is that most of the people best fit for the job aren't around anymore or don't have time (I sure as hell don't have any). You seem motivated and possibly skilled enough, so if you want to help, refer this thread to Zeality and ask him if you can have editorial rights in the Encyclopedia wiki. If he agrees that this is a real problem, then I'll give you an account and you can edit things to your heart's content.

The editing itself should be fairly easy, since we use MediaWiki. If you've ever helped out with Wikipedia, then you should feel right at home.

Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: nightmare975 on June 13, 2007, 10:26:50 pm
Who can edit it? Because if I can, I'll try my best.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on June 13, 2007, 11:05:19 pm
Oh, awesome. I just PM'd Zeality about it... hope it's okay with him.


I don't know Nightmare but if I'm allowed to edit I'll need all the help I can get :o
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on June 13, 2007, 11:20:00 pm
Okay, Ramsus will have to open registration for you or something.

Carbon copy of the PM!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on June 14, 2007, 04:15:08 am
Wow, someone more obsessive over the English language than Lord J  :shock:
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on June 14, 2007, 03:19:44 pm
Your account is created, and your new password sent to the e-mail account in your forum profile. You can find the login page through a link at the bottom of every Encyclopedia page on the site.

Have fun, and thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on June 14, 2007, 04:09:09 pm
...Mwahahaha...


Thank you so much! I'll do my best!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 16, 2007, 02:21:38 am
Wow, someone more obsessive over the English language than Lord J  :shock:

Back to the slime under your rock, foe!

I for one appreciate any help our community members wish to give to the editing of the encyclopedia.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Generality on September 05, 2007, 10:15:40 pm
*Jumps on this bandwagon*

I've noticed a number of mildly annoying errors, but there are a few huge mistruths that bug me particularly.

One that I just noticed is in the Masamune (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Masamune.html#Name_Origin) page where it says the word is Japanese for "Holy Sword." This is about as false a statement as you could make. The name comes from the swordsmith, as mentioned in the somewhat garbled legend on the same page. (That account could stand to be rewritten, by the way)
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on September 05, 2007, 10:24:55 pm
Unfortunately, the community size never reached the critical mass needed to sustain a real wiki without fear of vandalism or other problems, so we closed it after the first few years to avoid problems, but that left us with some garbage and poorly edited (or never edited) contributed text.

However, if you want to rewrite part of something, feel free to post a link (as you just did) and your version of the text. Someone should notice and make the change.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on September 05, 2007, 11:31:19 pm
Yeah. I'm not surprised Masamune is like that. It was, IIRC, the second or third article ever created back in 2004, so it suffered in our early days of open registration.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: V_Translanka on October 27, 2007, 07:27:12 pm
I don't have anything right now, but this thread should totally be pinned.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Y0u on March 07, 2008, 04:01:36 am
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Trigger_10th_Birthday.html

This list says that Chrono Cross was released as a GH game in '03.  I very specifically remember buying my GH copy of it in May of '02 (there are other details I remember that very specifically put it in mid-May '02, for what that's worth...)

Edit: Come to think of it, Squaresoft (as Square Enix) re-released a fair number of their PS1 games as GH games in '03 (FF7-FF9, FF Anthology and Chronicles, and Xenogears are the ones I know of;) perhaps there was another re-release of CC under the Square Enix label?  Mine has the SquareSoft label, though.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on March 07, 2008, 04:55:24 am
Thanks.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Nickolz on June 08, 2008, 01:15:47 am
I've found a few minor errors among CC characters' pages. Most are related to the Character's weapon and a link to the worng page.

They didn't seem any important to me, but, according to the chaos theory, reality as it is might be completely destroyed in a distant future due to such details. Thus, here I go:

Mel's page (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Mel) indicates she uses gloves. Her actual weapon is a Boomerang.

Irenes' page (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Irenes) indicates she uses a Lure. Her actual weapon is a Pick.

Norris' (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Norris) and Starky's (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Starky) pages indicate they use Shots. Both actually use Guns.

Radius' page (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Radius) indicates he uses a Rod. His actual weapon is a Staff.

Janice's page (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Janice) correctly indicates she uses a Carrot. However, it's linking to the wrong page. The correct page would be this one (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Carrots.html).

In NeoFio's page (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Neofio), the Home World section says:
"Turnip was presumably killed before birth when Viper Manor was brought down before 1020 A.D."
I suppose it should be about NeoFio, not Turnip, although they're both vegetables. Right?

That's all. I hope I've helped, even if it only makes difference hundreds of years in the future, when some old lieutenant will need to know Mel's correct weapon to impede the fourth world war.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on June 08, 2008, 01:43:46 am
Thanks a ton. Yeah, the Cross bios are subject to those errors since I rapidly completed those entries with the aid of a template.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Magus22 on March 31, 2009, 03:29:26 pm
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.  

Although I am well aware of this, perhaps I should have contacted maggiecarp, non?

I will most post some quick mistakes here, please refer to next post though as it is more "neat". Thought I would do this real quick...



EDIT: Orcha appearing in 2 Chronology dates fixed!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Magus22 on March 31, 2009, 05:24:08 pm
I bolded the words that should be changed in the underlined headings and put what it should read.


Edits for Chrono Cross Condensed Plot Summary


Settlement of El Nido (1 edit change)

"The Viper Clan was responsible for its founding, and probably immigrated from mainland Zenan with others."

immigrated > emigrated


Serge and the Frozen Flame (1 edit change)

"FATE took advantage of Wazuki's corruption, and bega to shape him to FATE's will. Lastly, while the storm was down, the split Dragon Gods briefly came together to create a seventh piece, called Harle."

bega > began


Chrono Cross Begins (1 edit change)

"She succeeded, and a new dimension was fissioned off from the main one; the main is now called Another World, and the new one, in which Serge lives, is called Home World."

fissioned > "fissioned" (since it is not a real word...)


Schala's Freedom (1 edit change)

"Using a Time Egg, the same device by which Crono was ressurrected in Chrono Trigger, Serge ventured to the Darkness Beyond Time, where the Time Devourer resided, and freed Schala."

ressurrected > resurrected


The Lost Storyline? (2 edit changes)

"Signs point to another overaching storyline that involved Serge binding with the Time Devourer itself;"

overaching > heart-wrenching


"Chrono Cross Ultimania mainly supports this notion, claiming that the Arbiter of the Frozen Flame must mediate between his fellow lifeforms and Lavos, or else he will inevitably bind with the creature and spell destruction for other humans."

lifeforms > life forms OR life-forms (editors discretion)


Serge's Perspective (3 edit changes)

"This information is later expatiated by accompanied apparitions. Serge learns that the time research facility Chronopolis created El Nido thousands of years ago after a catastrophic experimental failure drew it to the past. The introduction of a temporally foreign object in history caused the planet to pull in a counterbalnace from a different dimension."

expatiated > elaborated on (editors discretion)

counterbalnace > counterbalance


"Thousands of years later, a panther demon attacked a three-year old Serge."

The letter "a" is not needed here... (editors discretion of course)


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End of edits for CC Plot Summary. Let me know if this was helpful.


EDIT: - cleaned it up a little... :picardno
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on April 01, 2009, 05:31:30 am
Thanks, but I think it's easier just to give you access. Check your messages.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 02, 2009, 12:25:37 am
Magus22, several of your corrections are themselves incorrect or unnecessary:

1. “Fission” is a legitimate intransitive verb and does not need to be changed.

2. “Overaching” should be changed to “overarching,” not “heart-wrenching.” They're completely different ideas.

3. “Lifeform” used to be two distinct words, but nowadays it is widely accepted as a single compound word.

4. “Expatiated,” hah! I didn't know anybody else actually knew that word. For the record, “expatiated” would work just fine, but “elaborated upon” would definitely be more accessible to a general audience. Note, however, that it's “elaborated upon” and not “elaborated on.”

5. Regarding “a three-year-old Serge,” this is one of those cases where a legitimate construction could be built out of the indefinite article, the definite article, or  no article—and each construction would be distinct from the other. The most common, however, would be the one that's already there: the one with the indefinite article. This kind of phrasing is used as a form of emphasis. The no-article version you're suggesting is actually rather archaic; to modernize it you'd need to move or eliminate the “three-year-old” qualifier, and in so doing you would eliminate the emphasis, which is why it would be a distinct idea.

The lion attacked Magus22. (Emphasis is gone!)
The lion attacked very unhappy Magus22. (This is the one you're proposing.)
The lion attacked a very unhappy Magus22. (Simple, straightforward, effective.)
The lion attacked the very unhappy Magus22. (Slightly different construction; more emphasis on the object and less on the action. In this case, the “the” resonates unfavorably with the “the” earlier in the sentence.)

Hope this was some help to ya! Thanks for updating our encyclopedia.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: placidchap on April 02, 2009, 09:22:36 am
"The Viper Clan was responsible for its founding, and probably immigrated from mainland Zenan with others."

immigrated > emigrated

I'd have to disagree on that one. 
immigrated - "probably immigrated to El Nido from mainland Zenan"
emigrated - "probably emigrated from mainland Zenan [to El Nido]"

I could be wrong though, since El Nido is already referenced with 'its', so I do not know if that makes any difference.

edit: I could also be wrong in that I interpreted your post backwards and that the article originally said "immigrated" and you changed it to "emigrated', as the article is now. 
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on April 10, 2009, 10:25:08 am
Not sure if this is the correct topic to post.

Just keep a reminder in case someone might forget it.
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,3455.msg154585.html#msg154585 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,3455.msg154585.html#msg154585)

The character '土' in CT retranslation script should be '士'.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on April 27, 2009, 12:20:06 pm
Quote from: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Music_(Chrono_Trigger).html
'Rust Battle (Lavos Core)' by Episodes & Melody

Isn't this piece called "Last Battle"?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on April 27, 2009, 06:51:10 pm
Going with E&M's name.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on April 27, 2009, 10:35:41 pm
http://www.ep-melody.com/html/other.php (http://www.ep-melody.com/html/other.php)
http://www.ep-melody.com/txt/lavoscore.txt (http://www.ep-melody.com/txt/lavoscore.txt)

Hmm, I just checked their website, and didn't see an English title for it. So are you sure "Rust" is not a mistranslation for "Last"?

Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on May 04, 2009, 04:59:28 am
Quote from: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Robo_Ducky.html
Fossil Valley (Another) ?

Should be Dead Sea.



Not a big deal, but since it has already been written there, so let it be accurate...

Quote from: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Luxator.html
Japanese Equivalent

Translation: Shining Doll
ドルホーリー reads DollHoly.

Quote from: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Gravitor.html
Japanese Equivalent

Translation: Gravity Doll
ドルヘビィ reads DollHeavy.


http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Aquator.html

DollIce




http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Centaurpede.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Centaurpede.html)

Missing Gold drop, 600G, probably.


http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chamellion.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chamellion.html)

500G



http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Monsters_(Chrono_Cross).html

Cytoplasm links to Ectoplasm page.


http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/De-Hydrate.html

Innate should be black.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Jeff Zero on May 04, 2009, 07:00:18 am
Let me know if by chance you're willing to let me have a swing at things as well. I'm quite obsessive over these matters, and I've caught a few issues in my browsing.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: V_Translanka on May 04, 2009, 08:08:16 am
I think this is just for everyone's general comments on things that need editing...
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Jeff Zero on May 04, 2009, 12:25:38 pm
Well, paint me dead tired last night and ring in a blunder. I didn't realize.

In that case, yeah, I'll start jotting things down when I get the chance.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on May 04, 2009, 10:12:36 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dwarf.html

Fossil Valley (Home) -->  Water Dragon Isle (Home)
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on May 04, 2009, 10:16:42 pm
Check your e-mail.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Acacia Sgt on May 04, 2009, 10:46:01 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Acacia_PVT.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Acacia_PVT.html)

The stronger version are fought in Fort Dragonia, not the Viper Manor Bluffs.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Acacia_SGT.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Acacia_SGT.html)

Same as the PVT, except the current location given is Viper Manor.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Porre_PVT.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Porre_PVT.html)

They are fought in Another, not Home.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Tyrano.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Tyrano.html)

It's fought in Home, not Another.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Zoah_(Monsters).html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Zoah_(Monsters).html)

Under the Mt. Pyre title has Shadow Forest (Another) as it's location. Also, his innate is given as Green, should be Yellow.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Marcy_(Monsters).html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Marcy_(Monsters).html)

The second fight is in Mt. Pyre, not Fort Dragonia.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Radius_(Monsters).html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Radius_(Monsters).html)

His innate should be Green, not White.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Black_Dragon.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Black_Dragon.html)

Location should be Another, not Home.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Radius.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Radius.html)

Innate is Yellow, should be Green.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on May 04, 2009, 10:50:06 pm
Check your e-mail.

Sorry, I didn't receive anything. So I changed my email addess just in case...
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on May 05, 2009, 12:05:18 am
Nevermind, check your original e-mail in a few days.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on May 09, 2009, 01:18:53 am
I have received the e-mail, thanks.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on June 20, 2009, 12:32:47 pm
Ah, it seems all those character stats pictures have an error, but who gonna edit those?
The last 2 slots should be STAMINA RECOVERY and STATUS EFFECT LENGTH.

Take Guile for example, his stamina recovery is 8(very slow compared to other characters) and status effect length is 10.
(http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/e/ea/Guilestats.png)
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Fuuinashi on July 30, 2009, 08:49:18 pm
Hello y'all!  And Hi Zeal, if you're still around anyways. Probably don't remember me.

Anyways!   I've been browsing the Compendium myself (Since I just started playing Chrono Cross again.. This game is my youth, filled with joy and nostalgia), and as I was browsing, I too caught a few mistakes, nothing really bad except one that truly bugged me. I thought I could fix it myself, but it seems I cannot, so I'll post it here in hopes that one of youse kindred souls fixes it for me! :P

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Bronzerang.html

On that page, it says Mel starts with it.  That is incorrect, the Bronzerang is impossible to obtain without the use of gameshark codes. She starts with Steelerang which is the lowest Boomerang weapon in the game.  The Bronzerang is the same caterogy as the Bone Shot and Ghetz's Shirt, dummied out of the game.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on July 30, 2009, 09:10:40 pm
Yeah, I didn't test it in game, but the Ultimania said Mel starts with "Iron Fly" which stands for Steelerang in US version.
And the Bronzerang is not in the weapon list at all.

-----------

Fixed.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on August 15, 2009, 12:42:13 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Flea_Vest.html

Changed.
Flea's Vest can only be equipped by males in CC.
*facepalm*
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Romana on August 20, 2009, 11:23:50 pm
It was pointed out that http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Key_Items_(Radical_Dreamers).html has a bunch of errors (the music box is the same description as the mirror, the mirror is the same description as the raisins, etc.)

Fixed.

Not sure what description the Music Box should have (haven't played RD in forever), so could someone add one?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on August 21, 2009, 12:03:05 am
The music box is what plays the piece that composed by Serge in his early days as a musician. Kid cried when she heard the music because it was Lucca's favorite.

Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on October 24, 2009, 02:42:05 am
Bump for a small update.

* The giant tree in the Shadow forest(where Zoah jumps from) is slightly different in the demo version (less details).
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Shadow_Forest.html


* There's a small waterfall in the left hand in the demo Hydra Marsh scene (which is metioned in this page: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Cross_Demo.html).
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Hydra_Marshes.html
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 24, 2009, 05:15:48 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on November 02, 2009, 10:04:07 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouth_of_Truth

BTW, do you think the name origin of the Mouth of Truth is worthy to add?
Or maybe it is too well known to be added?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on November 03, 2009, 01:11:05 am
Hah, I had no idea it existed. Yeah, we should add it!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on November 03, 2009, 09:41:17 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lode_Helm.html


Does Nu sell it in Kajar in the SNES version?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on November 03, 2009, 11:47:54 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Prism_Helm.html

It is charmed from Zeal's left hand in DS version, unless it is different in SNES version.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on November 04, 2009, 12:13:05 am
Well, this might be a matter of perspective. (Your left vs the enemy's left.)

Edit: The Queen Zeal boss page lists them correctly.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on November 08, 2009, 03:47:29 am
Edit: The Queen Zeal boss page lists them correctly.
Oh, I saw that. And fixed.
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Isn't this place known as North Keep in SNES version? Or is it another place?
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/North_Palace.html
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: GenesisOne on November 09, 2009, 04:03:50 pm

Isn't this place known as North Keep in SNES version? Or is it another place?
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/North_Palace.html

If you were to approach the location and that same name appeared above it, then you would be correct.  If not, then it is simply called the North Palace.

This, however, is an odd name choice seeing it isn't a Palace in the first place.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: GenesisOne on November 16, 2009, 03:48:51 pm

Something needs to be done about the recorded time for every post made on the forums.

In short, it isn't adjusted to Daylight Savings Time.

Can this be easily remedied?  If not, I'll speak no further.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: MsBlack on November 16, 2009, 04:36:00 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,8201.msg183023.html#msg183023

By the way: It makes no sense about adjusting the recorded time, seeing as it's all Linux timestamps anyway. Any adjustment would be in processing the timestamps (and that's exactly what that forum setting does!), not in the process of recording the timestamps themselves.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: GenesisOne on November 16, 2009, 04:57:47 pm

Ah.

Well, I made the changes.  It's just a personal preference for me, is all.

(http://www.seoconsultants.com/just-say-no/images/no-big-deal-480.gif)

Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 01, 2009, 11:03:30 am
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Cross_Demo.html#Dynamic_Texture_Pack


Hmm, this thread has been deleted I think. Any plan to restore it or just open another one?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: GenesisOne on December 04, 2009, 05:30:40 pm

It can still be accessed.

How exactly is it "deleted"?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 04, 2009, 05:45:59 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Cross_Demo.html#Dynamic_Texture_Pack


Hmm, this thread has been deleted I think. Any plan to restore it or just open another one?

Yeah, I guess it should be recreated. Nothing wrong with identifying textures.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 16, 2009, 10:54:08 am
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Glitches_%28Chrono_Cross%29.html

I commented out Radius Low HP section.

Since I found he has exact 30000HP in US version, so that 5% bonus seems not fit him at all --  it is a demo battle, maybe everything is set.
And in Japanese version, he has only 1024 HP, pretty easy to kill in new game+.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 28, 2009, 11:32:52 am
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Cross_Demo.html#Dynamic_Texture_Pack


Hmm, this thread has been deleted I think. Any plan to restore it or just open another one?

Yeah, I guess it should be recreated. Nothing wrong with identifying textures.
According to the final version,
unknown\2076.bmp ~ unknown\2079.bmp should be in Viper Manor
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on January 05, 2010, 01:51:11 am
Code: [Select]
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\'"\Skullduggery\"'\
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\'"\Tropical Paradise\"'\
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Find this in CC script.
Missing "096" after a certain line.


Code: [Select]
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Remove all the currently
allocated Elements from
the Element Grid.
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Remove chosen Element
from the Element Grid.
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Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 22, 2010, 09:59:04 am
Thanks; fixed that in the script.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on March 08, 2010, 05:24:04 am
I'm slowly adding informations to Cross tech pages, for example: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Blue_Techs.html

Such as targetting, effects, status, attack type, damage...

Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: alfadorredux on April 08, 2010, 09:42:22 am
Dunno who the joker is, but I don't think this is funny:

"While the exact details of his rise to power are unknown, translated lines from prerelease NPCs reveal his blackmail of King Zeal after the monarch drunkenly confessed walking in on Janus about to mutilate his genitals."

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dalton.html (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dalton.html)
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on June 03, 2010, 11:58:30 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Bend_of_Time.html

I edited the translation of the Bend of Time because it was copied from the 'End of Time' page.
And the new translation matches the music name: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/A_Narrow_Space_Between_Dimensions.html



As a result, I edited this page as well: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Temporal_Vortex.html



Testing mediawiki table code.
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Glenn.html
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on July 22, 2010, 02:22:28 pm
This person found an etymology for Algetty, the earthbound village: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,8448.0.html

"Probitas laudatur... et alget"

That phrase means "Uprightness is praised... and neglected," in Latin at least. It is "alget" that seems to be interesting here. Unfortunately I have yet to come across the infinitive of that verb, but it looks like the plural imperative of it might be "algete."

Algetty is a village of neglected humans, so it seems likely its name might have been taken from this somewhat famous Latin saying.
Ah yes, here we go. Algere, a 2nd conj. verb meaning "to be cold, to be neglectged." Algetty is both. And, based on CC's Angelus Errare, it would seem that someone in Square knew a smattering of Latin.


This should be added to http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Algetty.html , which currently states that Algetty is a fabrication with no word origin.

Posting it here so it can be seen.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on July 24, 2010, 12:50:53 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lode_Helm.html


Does Nu sell it in Kajar in the SNES version?

yes, in the snes version you can buy lode vests and lode helms from the nu at kajar, along with some weapons. They dont appear until you can access the ocean palace, though. The nu will ask whether youre wearing schalas pendant.. if you say yes, he'll say he hates liars, but if you say no, he lets you shop. its an interesting addition thats easy to miss.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on August 03, 2010, 09:05:33 am
Also, I'd be willing to work on the encyclopedia. I'm not known around here, so I don't expect it, but the offer stands.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on November 18, 2010, 03:06:16 pm
:-/
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on November 19, 2010, 07:45:56 pm
Sorry for the wait Xcal, the changes have been made
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on November 21, 2010, 02:28:26 am
not a problem. thanks!

At this stage, I think that the encyclopedia is mostly filled out - but there's always room for small improvements/corrections/expansion.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on November 30, 2010, 03:29:37 pm
A lot of it is just making the entries read more naturally
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 12, 2010, 12:27:08 am
Which Stone Unaged Schala?

Quote from: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Fates_of_the_Chrono_Trigger_Team.html#Magus
The Frozen Flame, which had been used in the Mammon Machine, detected her guilt, unaged her to an infant, and sent her to the modern era for a second life.

Quote from: RD script
But the stone,
 It had other plans for her...
 Turning back the hands of her clock,
    scattering her memories,
 she was granted another chance.
 Since the precious stone was in her possession,
 she carried with her all its will and power.
 And so, she was born into this era,
returning to reality as a mere infant...

Quote from: Vera
 "If you want to steal the jewel, and if you really want to beat him, you too must give up your most valued possession, Kid. As long as you cling to it, the hands of your clock will never budge. They'll stay frozen, trapped in the distant past..."

Quote from: Ghost Lucca in Chrono Cross
  Schala left her baby
   daughter-clone with her
   ancient pendant, possessing
   magical powers.
   This was to safeguard her
   daughter-clone in life-and-
   death situations.
   The pendant would rewind
   time a little, sending her
   daughter-clone into a safer
   point in the immediate past.

Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: chi_z on December 12, 2010, 12:48:48 am
well.......RD is a different dimension. in cc kid is a clone, in RD she is a reincarnation. the pendant is the unaging stone in CC, the flame is in RD. problem solved?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 12, 2010, 12:56:45 am
No really.
It was never metioned it was the "Frozen Flame". Wouldn't it be more natural if the 'stone' was the same thing Vera's talking about?


Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on December 12, 2010, 05:48:01 pm
I thought Vera was talking about the unfinished Chrono Trigger and that Kid didn't have a pendant in RD, but this does raise some questions
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 12, 2010, 09:02:17 pm
Yeah, and Kato used a lot of lines depicted the scene after the Time Egg(Chrono Trigger was not metioned directly in original script, always Time Egg) shattered, directly after Kid/Schala's narration, which is quite confusing as if the Egg has something to do with the 'stone' metioned before.

Well, never mind.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 18, 2010, 08:40:28 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Slasher.html#Chrono_Cross
Added Slasher's fat brohter.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Viper%27s_Venom.html
Viper's Venom

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Einlanzer.html#Media
Einlanzer (I wonder why it is different from that keyitem picture).

I'd like to add other weapon pictures later.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on December 19, 2010, 07:38:04 pm
I can fix these things myself, but what do others think?

Earlier this year, I found out that the "Miwa Ikuta" in the Radical Dreamers credits list was actually "Miwa Shoda". I've already fixed that one.

Now, a few months ago, I was looking at credits from other Square Satellaview games, and there was some overlap in the credits. The "K. Yamashita" in the Demiforce credits is "山下 弘二" in the original Japanese. Probably "Koji Yamashita", not "Kyoko".
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on December 19, 2010, 07:57:00 pm
I can fix these things myself, but what do others think?

Earlier this year, I found out that the "Miwa Ikuta" in the Radical Dreamers credits list was actually "Miwa Shoda". I've already fixed that one.

Now, a few months ago, I was looking at credits from other Square Satellaview games, and there was some overlap in the credits. The "K. Yamashita" in the Demiforce credits is "山下 弘二" in the original Japanese. Probably "Koji Yamashita", not "Kyoko".

LOL, you are right.  Should be Kouji or Koji.
--ko is definitely a female name.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: alfadorredux on December 19, 2010, 08:23:25 pm
The third kanji does seem to be read as "kou" (or "hiro"), so "Kyoko" can't be right.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on January 01, 2011, 10:31:53 pm
If I fix the Ko(u)ji/Kyoko mix up on the Radical Dreamers page, I should also adjust the other pages to remove her status as a “true Dream Team member”. Since the listing of "Kyoko Yamashita" in the Chrono Trigger page was actually only "K. Yamashita" in the original credits, that's also suspect.

Here some reasons why I doubt it:
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There are some other strange discrepancies in the Demiforce credits.
For example, the Art Director of Radical Dreamers is actually 蒲田 泰彦 (Yasuhiko Kamata), not 本根 康之 (Yasuyuki Honne).
Why is this? Were the resources back then for looking up the names too limited?

Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on May 16, 2011, 06:34:54 am
http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/a/ad/Dinopolis_vs_chronopolis.png


For some reason, this picture can't be displayed in Google Chrome.
Anyone knows the reason?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Bard_of_Time on May 16, 2011, 03:37:00 pm
utunnels, it works fine for me. Maybe it's just you?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on May 16, 2011, 08:54:23 pm
Oh, I just realized the reason. There's an ad in the url path and my browser blocked it.
 :cry:
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on July 12, 2011, 03:06:47 am
I still sometimes worry about how accurate the credit pages are. Last month, I used the Special Talk from the V-Jump's Player Guide to confirm that Tadashi Nomura worked on advertising for CT, not Tetsuya Nomura. The Japanese version of Chrono Cross apparently has some different listings compared to the English version.
The Demiforce translation of Radical Dreamers cut out the Graphics section of the credits. Here is that section along with my labels of who they are.
Quote
グラフィック (Graphic)
   代島 学 (Manabu Daishima)
   小倉 良則 (Yoshinori Ogura)
   寺田 努 (Tsutomu Terada)
   内山 博 (Hiroshi Uchiyama)
   臼田 忠泰 (Tadahiro Usuda)
   山本 広人 (Hiroto Yamamoto)
   毛利 勉 (Tsutomu Mouri)
   新井 考 (Kou Arai)
Should this information be added to the credits page?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 12, 2011, 12:10:28 pm
Yeah, we should definitely get that on there. That sucks... I'd be mad if I worked on CT and the localization team somehow messed up my name.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on July 26, 2011, 05:08:41 pm
I found a typo:
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/End_of_Time.html

Quote
Gaspar, the Guru of Reason, arrived here due to the Ocean Palace Incident,

It describes Gaspar as the Guru of Reason on the End of Time page, when he is in fact the Guru of Time.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 26, 2011, 11:11:07 pm
Whew. I'm so glad that wasn't an error in the Chronology. That would mean editing 3 other places, ha.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Nangbaby on October 02, 2011, 02:55:43 pm
I hesitate to post publicly, but I think I may have spotted an error in the Compendium.

In the Mother Brain article (http://chronocompendium.com/Term/Mother_Brain.html), the Home Area is listed as, and linked to Magus' Lair (http://chronocompendium.com/Term/Mother_Brain.html).


Not unless this isn't an error.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 02, 2011, 03:04:31 pm
Fixed; thanks!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Nangbaby on October 02, 2011, 03:07:36 pm
That was fast.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on November 11, 2011, 01:08:38 pm
I've recently figured out the Mystical Knights essential elements are as follows:

Ozzie - Lightning
Flea - Fire
Slash - Water/Ice

maybe this could be added to their bios. They should definitely be listed as Innates in the four elements page - http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/The_Four_Elements.html

here's my rationale:

Ozzie casts lightning on Zenan Bridge, Slash cancels Water in the first battle, and Flea casts fire magic in Ozzie's Fort.

In the final 3 on 3 battle with them, they use Delta Force, which means that each one has one of the three elements. Slash clearly casts the Ice part of the spell. Ozzie and Flea casts seem to be reversed, but that probably has to do with the fixed animation of the spell and wanting Ozzie to fire off first.


also, about the 4 elements page - why is Dalton listed as Fire innate?

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another issue: awhile back I mentioned that lode vests and helms are sold by the Nu at Kajar after you answer his question correctly, only after the Ocean Palace is available. This also applies to three weapons: alloyblade, big hand, and pearl edge.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/AlloyBlade.html
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Big_Hand.html
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Pearl_Edge.html

right now, the prices are correct, but it says that they're sold in the Zeal Palace. I haven't found any vendors in the palace. same goes for http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lode_Vest.html

on lode helm, it says: Kaja: After accessing the Ocean Palace, the Nu will sell it to you if you say you're not wearing Schala's pendant
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lode_Helm.html

which is fine, except it should be Kajar, and the cost is 6500g.

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issues with http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Spekkio_(Monsters).html

under Ogre (levels 20-29), it doesn't list his magic attacks. They're the same as Kilwala (fire1, ice1, lightning1, water1)

and under Omnicrone, there's this:

Omicrone (Levels 30-39)
Level: 39
Attacks: Fire, Fire 2, Ice, Ice 2, Lightning, Lightning 2
HP: 4800
Attacks: Fire, Ice, Lightning, Water

clearly the second attack list shouldn't be included there. and typo: it should be Omnicrone, not Omicrone.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on November 27, 2011, 02:31:12 am
now that I'm past level **, I'll make new posts. btw, nothing brought up in the previous post has been edited yet.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Single_Techs.html

I noticed the types on the single techs page. Robo and Frogs heal spells are listed as Water, but Marles aura/cure/life spells are listed as a "Healing type", even though it naturally follows that they'd be Water. Also, Chrono's Life spell doesn't have a type listed.
still other issues - Chrono's Slash and Luccas Flame Toss are listed as Physical type. However, I tested this out on shadow monsters in lab 32 which cancel physical, and they were hit - so Slash is lightning and Flame Toss is fire. (confirmed this with dragon tank too). I've checked and Slash (the mystical knight)s Slash attack is lightning. Cyclone is definitely physical though, because it was canceled by the Shadows. I haven't checked Luccas Napalm or Mega Bomb, but they're probably Fire too - after all, Robos area bomb is considered Fire. also, Frogs Slurp heal spell is considered Physical, when it's probably Water.

to make it simple:

chrono
slash - listed as physical, should be lightning
life - ????

marle
aura - listed as physical/healing, should be water
cure - listed as healing, should be water
cure 2 - see above
life 2 - see above

lucca
flame toss - listed as physical, should be fire
napalm - listed as physical, probably fire?
mega bomb - see above

frog
slurp - listed as physical, should be water


that's assuming curing spells ARE water. It definitely seems that way, but then there's Chrono's Life and Ayla's Kiss to confuse things. Hmm...

In any case, Chrono's Slash and Lucca's techs should be lightning and fire respectively.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on November 29, 2011, 07:30:20 am
A couple of interesting things I've found -

when its time to learn magic from Spekkio, you are locked into the End of Time (gates don't work) until you learn magic.

also, I had totally forgotten about this, but you know the fire/water/wind sprites that come out of the books of Zeal? they appear by your characters when they learn magic. (Chrono gets wind)

the character pages list the tech points needed to learn new moves. however, I can't find any info about experience points and leveling up in the encyclopedia, at least for Trigger.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on December 02, 2011, 04:28:54 pm
minor corrections:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Sealed_Chest.html

Quote
TRUCE INN (600 A.D.): [[Blue Vest

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Gate.html

Quote
once entered, the plain of time became a sea of energies.

I believe that should be "plane".

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Telepod.html

Quote
The first try work,

should be "worked". it's on the second line.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Telepod_Paradox_(Reasons_for).html

on the first two lines of the Leene Survival theory, we have

Quote
(provided Marle doesn't much around too much and dies peacefully of old age)

should be "mess around too much"

and on point 4. on that theory:

Quote
, supposidly because she doesn't exist in the timeline.

should be "supposedly".
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: FaustWolf on December 03, 2011, 12:41:32 am
Wow, nice finds xcalibur. Since these are easy and shouldn't require much discussion I went ahead and took care of most of them. I left the "plain of time" for now. Since it was compared to a "sea of energies," I wonder if the author/ZeaLitY was making a purposeful comparison of landform to...liquid form, I guess.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on December 03, 2011, 01:35:16 am
Wow, nice finds xcalibur. Since these are easy and shouldn't require much discussion I went ahead and took care of most of them. I left the "plain of time" for now. Since it was compared to a "sea of energies," I wonder if the author/ZeaLitY was making a purposeful comparison of landform to...liquid form, I guess.

someone found my posts! I guess I didn't have to pm maggiekarp after all.

yea, it could be plain or plane, I wasn't sure.

also, don't forget about my november 11 post. people might want to discuss my Mystical Knights ideas, but other corrections are noncontroversial.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 03, 2011, 01:38:03 am
Thanks for the work. Due to time constraints I can't address anything until the next update, but yeah, onward and upward.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on December 03, 2011, 01:54:13 am
Thanks for the work. Due to time constraints I can't address anything until the next update, but yeah, onward and upward.

that's totally understandable. I just don't want my posts to be in the dustbin, lol.

onward and upward indeed. I'll post whatever else I find here.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on December 09, 2011, 07:31:57 am
StrategyWiki was used as a source, and I read this interesting point on there:

Quote
One interesting note about Magus is that his versions of Lightning 2, Fire 2, and Ice 2 are about 30% more powerful than those cast by Crono, Lucca, or Marle, which makes him effectively the best Water magic user in the game among other things.

I did a brief test and confirmed that this is true (although I'm not sure of the exact increase). I controlled for the magic stat too.

we could probably add a bunch of other info from that site.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on December 13, 2011, 10:43:23 am
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Single_Techs.html
Ice 2
DS Name: Arise
Type: Water
MP Usage: 8
Range: All enemies
Japanese: アイスガ (Ice-ga)

DS name should be "Ice II"

also, Chrono's Slash, and Lucca's Flame Toss, Napalm and Megabomb techs are still listed as Physical, when they're lightning and fire.

I made a thread in casual discussion about the water/healing issue.

also on http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Single_Techs.html

Rock Throw
DS Name: Boulder Toss
Type: Physical
MP Usage: 4
Range: One enemy
Ayla throws rubble at the enemy.

incorrect description - Ayla doesn't throw rubble, she throws the enemy into the air.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: maggiekarp on December 14, 2011, 01:31:41 pm
Fixed fixed fixed. I actually didn't realize Slash was a magic attack until you said so and I tried it out on Spekkio to be sure.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on December 17, 2011, 08:07:25 pm
Indeed, it's the sort of thing that's easy to miss. You'd assume that your attacks only do magic damage after learning magic, but not so.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/xcalibur9874/Slash.jpg)

a possible replacement for http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/File:Slash.png.html

it's jpg, which you might not want. but the colors aren't so washed out and its a bit larger.

also, my first post (after nangbaby) hasn't been touched. my Mystical Knights theory is controversial, but the other 2 entries (about spekkio and zeal equipment) are straightforward.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Manoria_Cathedral.html
Areas Played: Cathedral, Ocean Palace, Sun Keep, Sun Palace

this hymn is heard in Denadoro Mountains, in the cave where you meet masa & mune.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Underground_Sewer.html
Areas Played: Dimensional Vortex (Nameless Caves), Ozzie's Fort, Sewer Access

also heard in Denadoro Mountains (with water).
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on December 22, 2011, 03:58:20 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dalton_(Monster).html

Dalton Plus uses Iron Orb in the SNES version too, typically in response to magic he can't counter (lightning, status-inflicting, non-elemental) and physical attacks.

He counters spells by casting the opposite. Interestingly, lightning 2 is the opposite of a shadow attack. I believe fire 2 and ice 2 should also have "counter:" in front.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: utunnels on January 23, 2012, 10:47:39 pm
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Arena_of_the_Ages.html

Changed Uranian Armor to Uranian Mirror.
I wonder if the same article on gamefaqs an be informed too, but that's not my business I guess.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: chapapote on September 25, 2012, 08:50:47 am
I've recently figured out the Mystical Knights essential elements are as follows:

Ozzie - Lightning
Flea - Fire
Slash - Water/Ice

maybe this could be added to their bios. They should definitely be listed as Innates in the four elements page - http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/The_Four_Elements.html

here's my rationale:

Ozzie casts lightning on Zenan Bridge, Slash cancels Water in the first battle, and Flea casts fire magic in Ozzie's Fort.

In the final 3 on 3 battle with them, they use Delta Force, which means that each one has one of the three elements. Slash clearly casts the Ice part of the spell. Ozzie and Flea casts seem to be reversed, but that probably has to do with the fixed animation of the spell and wanting Ozzie to fire off first.

In Chrono Cross, Flea is red innate, Ozzie is green and Slash is blue. So it fits.

BTW, in the Viper Manor entry, it should be said that "Death Volcano" is the music played in the sewers.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on November 24, 2013, 04:34:58 pm
Earlier, this year, I started updating the encyclopedia with something I've known for at least a few years. Namely, that the dummy location names Woolsey translated as "Breakwave Pt" and "Eternal Repose" were 1000 A.D. inn names in the pre-release. (Choras and Medina, respectively.)
I decided to use the currently existing pages, after reasoning that the only reason "Singing Mountain" is separate from "Chanting Mt." is because the unused name is not the iconic, recognized name. I linked the locations in the pre-release's location article, but didn't go any further.
Now, what to do with the Chrono Trigger section for those articles? What's in there is speculation about the names were for, while I know for sure how they were used.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Satoh on January 16, 2014, 11:52:41 pm
Some of the kana readings in a few pages are terribly wrong...
Leaper (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Leaper.html) is an example. I know it's a largely trivial thing, but 「エイシトサウルス」 can not in any way be read "Aycit Snix." Instead it should read Eishitosaurus, or Aicitsaurus depending on your pronunciation preference. But the point is that it is definitely -saurus, not 'snix.'

Rust Tyrano is similarly attributed:
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Japanese: ルストティラノ
Translation: Rust Tyrano (can phonetically be "last" Tyrano, but the spelling doesn't suggest this)

「ルスト」 is pronounced roosto or loosto (long U sound) meaning it is more likely Roost Tyrano than Last Tyrano.
"Last," and "Rust," in katakana DO however have the same spelling: 「ラスト」

My guess is that a lot of the Japanese represented needs some TLC.

Apologies if this has been brought up before...
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on January 17, 2014, 12:39:43 am
It's not the kana's that's wrong, what wrong is the Japanese text used on the page. 「エイシトサウルス」 is actually the Japanese name of the Gigasaur (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Gigasaur.html)
Leaper's 「エイシトニクス」. (The retranslation calls it "Aycit Nix".)
Though some things may need updating. kWhazit's current interpretation on his site has "Ancient" instead of "Aycit".
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on January 17, 2014, 01:28:02 am
Some of the kana readings in a few pages are terribly wrong...
Leaper (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Leaper.html) is an example. I know it's a largely trivial thing, but 「エイシトサウルス」 can not in any way be read "Aycit Snix." Instead it should read Eishitosaurus, or Aicitsaurus depending on your pronunciation preference. But the point is that it is definitely -saurus, not 'snix.'

Rust Tyrano is similarly attributed:
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Japanese: ルストティラノ
Translation: Rust Tyrano (can phonetically be "last" Tyrano, but the spelling doesn't suggest this)

「ルスト」 is pronounced roosto or loosto (long U sound) meaning it is more likely Roost Tyrano than Last Tyrano.
"Last," and "Rust," in katakana DO however have the same spelling: 「ラスト」

My guess is that a lot of the Japanese represented needs some TLC.

Apologies if this has been brought up before...

You've been promoted to a Wiki User. Thanks for volunteering.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Satoh on January 17, 2014, 03:12:39 pm
Well, alright.
I'm looking through now.

I see what may be a problem here but I can't tell.
Amphibite and Croaker are both labeled the same for their DS name and Jp names

The Jp translation is correct for the word, but I find it odd that two generic enemies would have the same name.

Can anyone confirm this?

EDIT:
Black Tyrano's listing is attributed to Azala.
This could be accurate, but I don't know the original name of Black Tyrano is.

EDIT2:
Well aside from the aforementioned uncertainties, I've finished looking through the Monster listings for Chrono Trigger. I fixed a few typos and misreadings.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on January 17, 2014, 05:18:19 pm
Why are you redoing this on your own rather than consulting sources such as the retranslation first? On the Rubble page, you went and replaced a translation that was completely in line with the retranslation.

Also, according to dictionaries, 「ルスト」 actually does mean "rust", but its only entries on the Japanese Wikipedia are for people/places from Germany and Austria. So it must reflect the German pronunciation rather than the English pronunciation of "rust".
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Satoh on January 17, 2014, 05:29:34 pm
Well much to my embarrassment, I forgot there was a resource.

Most of my changes were typos like missing L's or ]'s.
Perhaps I should go through and undo the changes?

EDIT:
Alright. As far as I can tell I've removed all vital changes. I'm not touching it again for a while.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on January 17, 2014, 07:49:15 pm
Well much to my embarrassment, I forgot there was a resource.

Most of my changes were typos like missing L's or ]'s.
Perhaps I should go through and undo the changes?

EDIT:
Alright. As far as I can tell I've removed all vital changes. I'm not touching it again for a while.

It should be easy to undo changes in the Wiki. Just revert to the previous version.

Obviously we need some sort of citation standard to ensure the internal referential integrity of our Encyclopedia materials is maintained with all our other resources.

I plan on adding more Encyclopedia users, so I may need to promote some of the existing editors to administrators on the wiki.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on January 17, 2014, 07:53:11 pm
Also, I encourage editors to note the reasoning for their changes in the Talk pages when applicable. This way if someone wants to revert your changes, there can be discussion about it.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Kodokami on January 18, 2014, 04:39:23 pm
Not sure what I can do, but I'm willing to help with the Wiki.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Ramsus on January 18, 2014, 04:50:22 pm
Not sure what I can do, but I'm willing to help with the Wiki.

Thanks for volunteering.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Odinn on April 01, 2014, 05:40:49 am
The entry on Rainbow equipment for Chrono Cross put particular stress on making absolutely sure not to talk to the Black Dragon, otherwise you lock out the chance to get the Rainbow Hammer and can't make rainbow equipment until your next play through, but didn't indicate that there is another condition that ALSO locks you out: The page says to visit Nikki's ship after beating the Marbule sage, but DOESN'T say that if you forget to do this you'll miss your chance PERMANENTLY for that play through. As a result of consulting this encyclopedia for my second play through, I'm not going to have rainbow equipment until my THIRD play through, and boy is it frustrating. PLEASE PLEASE FIX! Thank you.  :lol:
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: To4oo4 on March 26, 2019, 07:01:13 pm
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lucca%27s_house.html (https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lucca%27s_house.html)
"Served" is misspelled as "severed".
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: trig on March 26, 2019, 07:51:08 pm
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lucca%27s_house.html (https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lucca%27s_house.html)
"Served" is misspelled as "severed".

Wha? It's supposed to be "severed", like, "cut off".
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: To4oo4 on March 26, 2019, 08:04:56 pm
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lucca%27s_house.html (https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Lucca%27s_house.html)
"Served" is misspelled as "severed".

Wha? It's supposed to be "severed", like, "cut off".
It says "Other than severing as a laboratory". It should be serving, not severing.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on March 26, 2019, 08:50:41 pm
Severed was correct, serving is now fixed.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: To4oo4 on March 26, 2019, 08:54:20 pm
Thanks Mauron!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: trig on March 26, 2019, 10:23:31 pm
Ah that makes sense :-)

There's actually something I found a little while ago:

At the Translated Text (CTP) article, section "New Laruba Village & Worship of Strange Stone" (https://www.chronocompendium.com/wiki/index.php/Translated%20Text%20(CTP)#New_Laruba_Village_.26_Worship_of_Strange_Stone), the following text appears:

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  • 石 is a Japanese word meaning stone, or gem.
  • It can be pronounced いし (ishi) or せき (seki).
  • It is pronounced いし (seki) in the context of the stone mentioned by the people of 65,000,000 BC, the へんな石 (hen na ishi) or "strange stone".


Compare the second and third bullets--the Japanese characters and their pronunciations!

"いし" is "ishi", not "seki", as seen in the full word "hen na ishi" just later in the same point.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on March 27, 2019, 03:33:53 pm
Also fixed.

Be sure to post here if you find any other issues!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: To4oo4 on March 28, 2019, 04:32:48 pm
This is probably more nitpicky, but still a correction. On Masa & Mune's page, "and when inside the Masamune can make it levitate and move on its own." should have a comma after Masamune.

Edit: As trig said, there should also be a comma after 'and'.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: trig on March 28, 2019, 07:50:05 pm
For that to be the case, there would need to also be a comma between "and" and "when", so that the full thing reads:
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and, when inside the Masamune, can make it levitate and move on its own.

Grammar ref (https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-adverb-clauses.html) (edit: actually this is an adverb phrase, not an adverb clause, but the same comma rules apply to both when placed within a sentence)
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: To4oo4 on March 28, 2019, 07:59:10 pm
Haha, nice catch man. Thanks, I forgot about that.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on March 29, 2019, 12:00:25 am
Fixed.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Dark_Ansem on August 08, 2019, 09:26:10 am
Browser: Chrome

Mt Woe entry (https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Mt._Woe.html)doesn't work at all, Truce Canyon from the encyclopedia sends to Music Tune, generalised occasional error page when clicking on "Enyclopaedia" on the sidebar, Truce Canyon doesn't list Blue imps (I know I'm nitpicking)
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on August 08, 2019, 02:19:35 pm
Mt. Woe and both S.S. locations from CC have the same issue. I passed that one on. The data is there, but I think the period is tripping things up.

Have you gotten any generalized errors on the same page twice, other than the ones mentioned above?

What page had the Truce Canyon link wrong?

I updated Truce Canyon to include Blue Imps and Polies.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Dark_Ansem on August 08, 2019, 03:15:24 pm
Mt. Woe and both S.S. locations from CC have the same issue. I passed that one on. The data is there, but I think the period is tripping things up.

Have you gotten any generalized errors on the same page twice, other than the ones mentioned above?

What page had the Truce Canyon link wrong?

I updated Truce Canyon to include Blue Imps and Polies.

Thanks!
Another thing: the Dragon Tank only has 2 levels listed, but 3 parts. is that normal?
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on August 08, 2019, 03:35:16 pm
The Dragon Tank was listing showing stats that were different for a specific form. If the head and grinder both had 8 for a stat, that's all that was shown. I made this a little clearer. I also added Stamina and elemental resistance.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Dark_Ansem on August 08, 2019, 03:42:32 pm
Thank you CT legend.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Dark_Ansem on August 09, 2019, 06:04:10 am
Is it me, or Magus lair is directing to the wrong Hench monster (blue instead of purple) and doesn't list the green roly?

Also, it says that "Dreamless" is a shadow attack. It's not, it has no element.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on August 09, 2019, 11:45:15 am
Fixed all of the above.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 23, 2020, 05:46:14 pm
The entry on Rainbow equipment for Chrono Cross put particular stress on making absolutely sure not to talk to the Black Dragon, otherwise you lock out the chance to get the Rainbow Hammer and can't make rainbow equipment until your next play through, but didn't indicate that there is another condition that ALSO locks you out: The page says to visit Nikki's ship after beating the Marbule sage, but DOESN'T say that if you forget to do this you'll miss your chance PERMANENTLY for that play through. As a result of consulting this encyclopedia for my second play through, I'm not going to have rainbow equipment until my THIRD play through, and boy is it frustrating. PLEASE PLEASE FIX! Thank you.  :lol:

Made these two changes.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: xcalibur on August 24, 2020, 12:49:34 pm
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Forest_Ruins.html

under music, it should be Secret of the Forest instead of Memories of Green.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on November 06, 2020, 02:34:21 pm
Fixed.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: trocadilho on August 16, 2021, 01:24:29 pm
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Official_Art.html

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Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Beach Bum on October 11, 2021, 01:30:26 am
About that Rainbow Equipment page for Chrono Cross, I'm 99% sure there is no Black Dragon to interact with before the relics quest. I'm not sure if he's present in Another Marbule early in the game, but if he is, you can't interact with him. The only way you can lock yourself out of fighting him is if you don't talk to Nikki after fighting the Sage.

Also, you can buy the Master's Hammer as soon as Serge gets reborn into a new body. You don't have to fight FATE first.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: NimmerStill on August 18, 2022, 02:21:47 pm
The entry for Luccia contains the sentence:
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She met Luccia during her time on the mainland; the two exchanged notes and dialogue about a variety of subjects (Lucca even spoke to her of the Epoch).

Should be "She met Lucca".
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Mauron on September 03, 2022, 02:47:46 am
The entry for Luccia contains the sentence:
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She met Luccia during her time on the mainland; the two exchanged notes and dialogue about a variety of subjects (Lucca even spoke to her of the Epoch).

Should be "She met Lucca".
Fixed.
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: Vehek on November 24, 2022, 09:54:31 pm
Well, it's a bit late for this now... I noticed that all references to "Miwa Showa" were recently changed to "Miwa Ikuta...even though the official reading of her surname is "Shoda". ("Ikuta" is apparently a much more common reading.) I mean, it's even there in her website url that one of the interviews was taken from!
Title: Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
Post by: ZeaLitY on November 25, 2022, 12:13:00 am
Changed back to Shoda.