The Zealians stated that Janus's magic were more powerful than anyone. It is possible that over time, "Magus" has evolved in his magic arts thus learning time travel through his individual powers.
Magus's powers far exceed the gurus. However, Belthasar is able to build equipment that can allow time travel. If you think about it, there are many ways that Magus could've found his way back to the present era.
The question still remains, how did he know that there was a "Schala" presence in the present era?
No one ever said that his power exceeded the Guru's.
I don't see Magus making a time egg, a time machine, or being omniscient.
Heck, the Masamune weakened him, and it was made by Melchior.
The exact quote was supposed to mean that Janus too had power, frightening amounts, but he kept it sealed and hidden because he saw what it had done to hsi mother, and saw how Schala hated using her own.
No one ever said that his power exceeded the Guru's.
I don't see Magus making a time egg, a time machine, or being omniscient.
Heck, the Masamune weakened him, and it was made by Melchior.
The exact quote was supposed to mean that Janus too had power, frightening amounts, but he kept it sealed and hidden because he saw what it had done to hsi mother, and saw how Schala hated using her own.
Re-read my previous post. Magus may have been able to harness his true power over time. It's stated that he had more than anyone else, yes. But, question again, how did Magus know a "Schala" existed in the present era...
Do you think the Gurus had more power than the Queen?
I don't see the Gurus as all so powerful. What I can tell, Melchior got owned by Dalton. As for Melchiors dreamstone affecting Magus, I can easily counter that with the story of Samson and Delilah in the Bible.
No, you can't counter it. That's the bible, not CT.
Anyway, The Guru's had some powers greater than the Queen. She in general was like uber powerful. But no one was stronger than Melchior in harnessing life. No one was smarter than Belthasar, and no one had more of a grasp of time and how to control it than Gaspar.
And Melchior really didn't get pwned. Dalton is like a general, sure he has some fire magic or such, Melchior didn't get hurt or anything, he was walking around fine after, he just got knocked out, and remember that he is old.
And Schala, we've seen her barrier technique. She's got a lot up her sleve, but we don't see much.
No, you can't counter it. That's the bible, not CT.
So . . . ?Anyway, The Guru's had some powers greater than the Queen. She in general was like uber powerful. But no one was stronger than Melchior in harnessing life. No one was smarter than Belthasar, and no one had more of a grasp of time and how to control it than Gaspar.
And Melchior really didn't get pwned. Dalton is like a general, sure he has some fire magic or such, Melchior didn't get hurt or anything, he was walking around fine after, he just got knocked out, and remember that he is old.
And Schala, we've seen her barrier technique. She's got a lot up her sleve, but we don't see much.
Blehh, I don't know about that. The gurus in my opinion were weak. How does Melchior "harness" life? Belthasar is definately a smart-arse in all and gaspar is master of time. Ok, I can see that. If they were masters of their titles, then perhaps they should've used that when confronted by the queen and at the Ocean Palace incident. Melchior DID get pwned, admit it :P
Perhaps Magus sensed that barrier in which you speak of, in which Schala created or some sort of force created by the clone?
How does Melchior "harness" life?
Not to mention that little sapling.QuoteHow does Melchior "harness" life?
Well, he can create life out of pure dreaming and visualization. Etc. Masa, Mune, and Doreen.
I don't think he was really responsible for that -_-;I do, there are no trees on the planet, and if Melchior was working on the sapling, like putting magic in it and such that would make it flurish and spread quickly, that would explain it's power.
1) What clone? I'm talking about the barrier she put on the time gate, and the barrier that looks almost the same that she is encased in on top of Belthasar.
Schala... on top of Belthasar??1) What clone? I'm talking about the barrier she put on the time gate, and the barrier that looks almost the same that she is encased in on top of Belthasar.
I didn't know what thing you were talking about for a second. The time gate thing . . . yes, now I know what you're talking about.
Schala... on top of Belthasar??
No, that was just Shadow element magic. Not literal dark matter and black holes. Otherwise the solar system would like implode.
So I can safely assume that Magus has T/S magic then it's possible that either he learn to open time gates with magic by self-taught or some Zealians in the Dark Age taught him that magic. Remember that there are lots of magic scholars in Zeal even if they lose the ability to use magic they can still teach Magus by following certain procedures and Magus will do the rest by practicing. Don't forget that Magus is a genius in terms of magic.
Except that CT's magic aren't elements. They're the 4 powers that create and control the universe. If it was just an element, i'd doubt lightning/heaven could revive someone.
So I can safely assume that Magus has T/S magic then it's possible that either he learn to open time gates with magic by self-taught or some Zealians in the Dark Age taught him that magic. Remember that there are lots of magic scholars in Zeal even if they lose the ability to use magic they can still teach Magus by following certain procedures and Magus will do the rest by practicing. Don't forget that Magus is a genius in terms of magic.
Magus with his summoning technique demontrates his power for time and space control. Obviously, if he's summoning Lavos, hes creating a gate to pull him into where Magus is. But this failed and caused a gate. So either way, Magus achieved the time/space effect.
Magus does have the power to create a miniature black hole/rupture in space. During battles, my thought was that you have to be at a certain distance to use it so your party stays clear of the event horizon while it consumes other enemies. I was surprised that its caption was "power of life and death". It should've been changed to "power of life or death" since it has the chance to annihilate enemies at random.
QuoteMagus does have the power to create a miniature black hole/rupture in space. During battles, my thought was that you have to be at a certain distance to use it so your party stays clear of the event horizon while it consumes other enemies. I was surprised that its caption was "power of life and death". It should've been changed to "power of life or death" since it has the chance to annihilate enemies at random.
Yea, but it's a magical blackhole that doesn't function at all like a real one. Instead being a mass of gravity that warps space time around it, it's a mass of black magic that inexplicably hurts the enemy.
One of the size Magus created would pretty much destroy the solar system, if you know shit about quantum physics. As for the blackholes in the Time Eggs, I'm sure they can come up with some lame excuse like...I dunno, Dreamstone being able to contain a black hole or something.
That was all well and good except the geneology part. The pendant was made by the Sages of Zeal specifically for Schala, and it's powers come from Lavos.
+Instead of running or even floating up to enemies that Magus wants to slash with his scythe, Magus does a short teleportation there. As stated above, any type of teleportation is a manipulation of space.
+Instead of running or even floating up to enemies that Magus wants to slash with his scythe, Magus does a short teleportation there. As stated above, any type of teleportation is a manipulation of space.
Only on criticals...
Or maybe that he moves so fast that you think that he's warping in front of the enemy. Yeah, I've this move before.
They could have easily made a critical hit attack animation that involved Magus moving to his target normally like everyone else, but they chose to have him disappear and then reappear in front of the enemy instead.
and even Azala can teleport huge chunks of rocks and move them in the air at distance.
Nah, Elements were developed in the far future of a different dimension, using the power of the Dragon God.
That's what I don't understand about the character Guile in CC. He is the only character that's floats above the ground..Razzly easily floats above the ground too when she runs.
It's never really implied anywhere whatsoever that he has any time/space related powers, just traditional black arts like turning people into frogs and such. The only time he's ever caused any Time/Space related abilities to manifest was in the boss fight against him, and even then it's highly more likely that it was the fault of the failed Lavos summoning.
the most implied part i would have to say is his black hole spell. a wormhole is essentialy a bend in space/time, a black hole is a much more extreme bend, so either he didn't even think of minipulating his powers in such a way during CT(gravity equaling bent space is only a fairly recent observation compared to the time line of CT) or he didn't see a use for it sense a black hole seems more agressive then a worm hole
I've already said a billion times how Magus is not making a quantum black hole. If he was, he'd destroy the entire earth. It's simply a magical wormhole with a menacing name.
the most implied part i would have to say is his black hole spell. a wormhole is essentialy a bend in space/time, a black hole is a much more extreme bend, so either he didn't even think of minipulating his powers in such a way during CT(gravity equaling bent space is only a fairly recent observation compared to the time line of CT) or he didn't see a use for it sense a black hole seems more agressive then a worm hole
It proves that Magus's powers are incredible right? A blackhole isn't just your average magic spell. His ability either misses or annihilates the enemy. Magus can't always cast the blackhole attack each battle, he has to be a certain range towards and from the enemy, or he would obliterate himself. The ability to manipulate the fabric of spacetime is a serious issue. Magus has this power, but I believe he creates a manipulation of a blackhole . . . or he might generate a smaller version of the real thing. It would take much focus and control but the effect of opening an actual blackhole would be like turning off the oxygen in the given area where Chrono and co. is currently fighting in, resulting in a double KO (Street Fighter) of Chrono, party, and the enemies. Or . . . I am wrong and he can infact create a whole in space time, since the Earth and all its attributes and components are taking up space right now, and can send his enemies into nothingness.
What are you trying to get at with this wormhole idea though?I've already said a billion times how Magus is not making a quantum black hole. If he was, he'd destroy the entire earth. It's simply a magical wormhole with a menacing name.Quantum.
Let's just say his magic attack is an apparition of the real thing with similar attributes. I don't think a wormhole is the correct use of word for his magic attack.
and even Azala can teleport huge chunks of rocks and move them in the air at distance.
I think that's more of an element, not magic.
So? It doesn't really change anything.
I've already said a billion times how Magus is not making a quantum black hole. If he was, he'd destroy the entire earth. It's simply a magical wormhole with a menacing name.
Zaper, did you miss the "For all we know" part of my post? Apparently you did. Since in normal physics a minature black hole would destroy our entire solar system, I'm assuming the Dreamstone or some kind of magic is keeping it under control.
Zaper, did you miss the "For all we know" part of my post? Apparently you did. Since in normal physics a minature black hole would destroy our entire solar system, I'm assuming the Dreamstone or some kind of magic is keeping it under control.
Zaper, did you miss the "For all we know" part of my post? Apparently you did. Since in normal physics a minature black hole would destroy our entire solar system, I'm assuming the Dreamstone or some kind of magic is keeping it under control.
Every dimension has it own rules in terms of physics. It's possible to make a mini blackhole without destroying the solar system in the process.
Lavos's gates and blackholes behave differently.
A blackhole would have sucked far more than just a castle into oblivion. I wonder, if Lavos threw Crono and co back in time, where did Magus's castle go?
Lavos's gates and blackholes behave differently.
A blackhole would have sucked far more than just a castle into oblivion. I wonder, if Lavos threw Crono and co back in time, where did Magus's castle go?
A blackhole would have sucked far more than just a castle into oblivion. I wonder, if Lavos threw Crono and co back in time, where did Magus's castle go?
The question is not where did Magus's castle go, but rather, did Magus's castle go anywhere? The disappearance of the castle could be explained by other, less complicated events.Magus' castle didn't go anywhere. We know this because of what you already said about Ozzie, Slash, and Flea running off to Ozzie's fort. Other evidence that clearly shows Magus' castle was still present in 600 A.D. was that after the enormous gate (which I agree with the proposal that it was actually created by Lavos, although it was Magus' summoning spell that actually created the linkage from Lavos' pocket dimension to Magus' chambers) closed, Magus' chambers were still present and presumably somewhat intact. A temporal distortion of that magnitude could have caused the castle to become structurally unsound. We also are given hints that the castle was still present by this quote:
[Knight]
Since you didn't come out of
Magus's castle, I simply thought...
[Knight Captain]
We destroyed Magus's troops and
we owe it all to Crono.
[Knight]
Magus's troops are pretty tame
when he's not leading them!
*Chronoverse composed of Four Elements ruling all physics: Shadow, Lightning, Fire, and Water
Hmmm...despite the fact that this topic seems fossilized, I'd still like to ask a question, though if it doesn't get answered due to lack of interest (or because it was already answered elsewhere), I won't feel offended: