Chrono Compendium
Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: kian on June 16, 2006, 10:22:02 pm
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did anyone else see the pre-order on bestbuy.com for ff7 on ps3? do you think it was a typo or did best buy let something slip.
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It wasn't a typo, it was due to EGM saying that there was an FFVII remake in the works, in spite of the fact that Square-Enix specifically said they aren't making a remake at the moment. So basically, EGM's a bunch of morons.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/13/bestbuy-com-is-selling-ps3-games-also/
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/08/bestbuy-com-wants-your-wii-gaming-loot-now/
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I'd rather see SE do remakes & rereleases on the PSP than on PS3...Or at least for the PSX games (SP and/or GBA can have the older school ones)...FFTactics on the go people! Make it so, Square-Enix! MAKE IT SO!!!
>_>
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thats comedy, best buy had splinter celll double agent listed for release last month, they had the presale cards on the shelves. square is probably making the remake, but best buy is definitely in the dark.
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Square has said no remake. That doesn't quite mean that they're making a remake.
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Exactly.
You never know, but to clarrify, there is no FF7 remake to be released on the PS3.
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Here's a concept I never understood:
Why would you want to play the same game twice?
What joy would one receive in an updated version of FF7? Hotter Aeris? XD
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Here's a concept I never understood:
Why would you want to play the same game twice?
What joy would one receive in an updated version of FF7? Hotter Aeris Vincent? XD
Fix'd.
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Yes, but you don't count when one speaks of females. D:
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Here's a concept I never understood:
Why would you want to play the same game twice?
What joy would one receive in an updated version of FF7? Hotter Aeris? XD
when there was the big chrono trigger remake/resurrection thing going on you didnt want to even touch the game did you. after all who would want to play the same game twice right?
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Actually, exactly.
I didn't care about CT Resurrection.
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They took it off as you can read HERE (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=5744.0)
I have hiddentext in my post, Read it!
( Vehek is a member there )
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I think a whole nother dimension (if a remake goes from 8-Bit to 16-Bit even, that's quite a jump, but 2D to 3D is exceptional...many would say the same for 32 to 128) adds enough to gameplay to equate one more play of "the same game"...But then again, it's not for the people that played the older version (or at least, not just for them)...It's for a whole new market to be exposed to the game/series...Plus, remakes/rereleases can contain extras w/o destroying the original material at all as well, like a new translation, better sound quality, etc...
I wasn't too excited for the 3D CT remakes either...mainly because it was easily confused as to which was which and which was doing what exactly...>_> Plus, add on to that the fact that so few fanmade Chrono games get completed and it was practically a sure thing that hopes were getting set up to get let down...
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so whatt im getting here is noone here would want a chrono trigger remake or a final fantasy remake? what about movie remakes, i know you have to sift through alot of shit, but sometimes you manage to strike gold.
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Here's a concept I never understood:
Why would you want to play the same game twice?
What joy would one receive in an updated version of FF7? Hotter Aeris Vincent? XD
Fix'd.
Oh man, I always thought you swung that way =[
Here's a concept I never understood:
Why would you want to play the same game twice?
What joy would one receive in an updated version of FF7? Hotter Aeris? XD
Absolutely right. Most classic games shouldn't be replayed, or you will soon come to dislike it. The only games I enjoy replaying are games I loved that I haven't played for years, or New Super Mario Bros. on my new DS Lite =]
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so whatt im getting here is noone here would want a chrono trigger remake or a final fantasy remake? what about movie remakes, i know you have to sift through alot of shit, but sometimes you manage to strike gold.
I wouldn't mind a CT remake if it was done right. Give us a better translation of the script. Give us better sound and music quality. Of course you can give us better graphics. But don't fuck around w/it trying to fix what isn't broken. I'm a purist, but I understand outdated graphics and how they appear to the new generation...But the graphics didn't make Chrono Trigger great. They just added to it's greatness at the time. It deserves a facelift, but don't try to change what it is on the inside...>_>
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Oh man, I always thought you swung that way =[
ChibiBob is a girl.
If they did a remake, the script would need a facelift. This guy are sick, indeed.
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Oh man, I always thought you swung that way =[
ChibiBob is a girl.
That's what I meant =]
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Final Fantasy Origins - Final Fantasy Anthology - Final Fantasy Chronicles
Why play it twice? Because we can, put simply. Why replay a game you've beaten in the past? Why not rent your games instead of buy them . . . if your just going to agonize over playing them over again? Why not have a revamped version of an old game, who cares, why keep on making Street Fighter games if its just the same thing over and over again?
Please . . .
But, I have heard that someone let the cat out of the bag a little too early with FF7. It might still be true, but then again, I like FFX better and I fail to understand why most people like FF7. Don't get me wrong, FF7 was an incredible game, but it was not the best.
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Cats shouldn't be in bags period. It's inhumane.
I'm no fan of FFVII either, but I could see how a revamp would be appreciated by fans (and admonished by purists, but they always complain)...and, heck, since I didn't like it to begin with...I think a revamp is freakin necessary!
:lol:
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A remake would let them redo the continuity once and for all. Last Order sort of rewrites some things. Additionally, since FF7 was the first of its kind, it is sort of the lowest technological common denominator. They could expand it, etc., whatever.
It won't happen on the level of the tech demo, as that would take "5 years" (quote) to do.
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I really don't like Last Order continuity. It really makes Cloud less awesome. I mean now he's just crazy enough to impale himself further on Sephy's blade. Back then he was strong enough to smack Sephiroth into the wall with his own blade while impaled.
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Forget that, you want to really know what makes Cloud less awesome? The Advent Children Reunion File. Nomura says that he directed the fight to show Sephiroth's vast superiority over Cloud. This is IN SPITE of his huge spiritual awakening. Really, that kinda pisses me off; if you can't have an even fight without resorting to limit breaks, it doesn't appear to be very credible that Cloud has already killed Sephiroth once. Really, his interpretation of the fight sequence is somewhat crack-addled, but it's canon, and quality has zero relevance to canon status.
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What about FFVIII? FFVIII has way more shit that is unexplained, and that whole Rinoa~Ultimecia theory could make a great game (thanks Silvercry :D)
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Too bad the main idea behind how the Rinoa=Ultimecia (that sorceresses live very long lifespans) was killed off by FF8's Ultimania.
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Ultimecia sucked. Hell, after the first disc was over FFVIII as a whole sucked.
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Ultimecia sucked. Hell, after the first disc was over FFVIII as a whole sucked.
Screw you.
Too bad the main idea behind how the Rinoa=Ultimecia (that sorceresses live very long lifespans) was killed off by FF8's Ultimania.
You too.
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Final Fantasy Origins - Final Fantasy Anthology - Final Fantasy Chronicles
Why play it twice? Because we can, put simply. Why replay a game you've beaten in the past? Why not rent your games instead of buy them . . . if your just going to agonize over playing them over again? Why not have a revamped version of an old game, who cares, why keep on making Street Fighter games if its just the same thing over and over again?
Please . . .
But, I have heard that someone let the cat out of the bag a little too early with FF7. It might still be true, but then again, I like FFX better and I fail to understand why most people like FF7. Don't get me wrong, FF7 was an incredible game, but it was not the best.
i think the reason ff7 has been the fan favorite for so long is because it was the first of its kind. there was such a hug gap between it and its predecessors. the story wasnt the greatest, but it was pretty good. also its ad campain got alot of people who had never played rpgs, so it was kinda like the girl you lose your virginity to. even if she wasnt the best looking, she'll always have a place in your heart.
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Ultimecia sucked. Hell, after the first disc was over FFVIII as a whole sucked.
Despite being the best FF ever. Well, I suppose it's a tough choice betwen VIII and IX, but yeah, it's up there.
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Final Fantasy Origins - Final Fantasy Anthology - Final Fantasy Chronicles
Why play it twice? Because we can, put simply. Why replay a game you've beaten in the past? Why not rent your games instead of buy them . . . if your just going to agonize over playing them over again? Why not have a revamped version of an old game, who cares, why keep on making Street Fighter games if its just the same thing over and over again?
Please . . .
But, I have heard that someone let the cat out of the bag a little too early with FF7. It might still be true, but then again, I like FFX better and I fail to understand why most people like FF7. Don't get me wrong, FF7 was an incredible game, but it was not the best.
i think the reason ff7 has been the fan favorite for so long is because it was the first of its kind. there was such a hug gap between it and its predecessors. the story wasnt the greatest, but it was pretty good. also its ad campain got alot of people who had never played rpgs, so it was kinda like the girl you lose your virginity to. even if she wasnt the best looking, she'll always have a place in your heart.
What about the guys who lost their virginity with hookers huh? Huh?! HUH HUH?!!?!?
p.s.: those would be the ones who got into rpg's through FF8, and nowadays when their brain has grown bigger than a soy beam they think the game stinks like rotten cheese after being eaten and shitted off
p.s.2: just kidding ,really
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I think if someone lost their virginity to a hooker they'd probably remember that and that memory would still have a special place in their heart...Uh, not that I'd know or anything!
>_>
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...im for once at a loss for words. :(
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Ultimecia sucked. Hell, after the first disc was over FFVIII as a whole sucked.
Despite being the best FF ever. Well, I suppose it's a tough choice betwen VIII and IX, but yeah, it's up there.
You should be crowned King Awesome.
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VIII had the potential to be the best. In Disc 1, you get the best FF intro ever created, heated rivalries, a train chase, motherfucking D-Day with robots, and a mission to assassinate a bitch. The first disc of VIII rocked hard. But it fell apart like a house of cards after that. Their time travel mechanism was retarded, Squall's character shift came out of absolutely nowhere, the entire FH sequence was stupid, Ultimecia had zero motivation or character development for anything she did, and the only redeeming story factor in the entire rest of the game was the Esthar sequence and the trip into space, and even that was marred by the Lunar Cry, which was more of a convenient plot device than anything else. There's also the thoroughly drug-addled bit where Squall somehow manages to walk across an intercontinental railroad. Imagine walking the distance from Austin to New York. How hard is it to just commandeer a defunct train, or take a motorcycle with you? But I must admit, the Ragnarok is my favorite airship in the series. It's extreme beyond the capacity for words, and it's one of the only FF airships with actual combat utility in and of itself. I prefer all of my flying vehicles to be able to cause mass destruction.
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Yeah, I agree, VIII faultered in presentation around the middle...You'd think Cecil's 180 would have tought them, but apparently not...and Squall "pulls-a-Paladin"...I like the overall idea and many of the concepts in VIII, especially the love story aspect playing such a large role...I'd easily put IX ahead of it though, for it's kick ass, well developed characters (they were as great and memorable as the cast of Trigger)...but not much ahead...because Zidane was the exception to the rule (in a highly negative way).
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I need to write this somewhere.
Noli manere, manere in memoria.
Ferum terrible, ferum fatum.
Veni, mi fili. Veni, mi fili.
Hic veni, da mihi mortem iterum.
Veni, mi fili. Veni, mi fili.
Hic veni, da mihi...
Noli manere in memoria.
Saevam iram et dolorem.
Ferum terrible fatum.
Ille iterum veniet.
Mi fili, veni, veni, veni, mi fili.
(Qui mortem invitavis,)
Mi fili, veni, veni, veni, mi fili.
(Poena funesta natus,)
Mi fili, veni, veni, veni, mi fili.
(Noli nomen vocare.)
Mi fili, veni, veni, veni, mi fili.
(Ille iterum veniet.)
Sephiroth, Sephiroth.
You must comprehend how absolutely inspirational the myth of Sephiroth is. That kind of self-will...is godly. Sephiroth is the utmost lucidity coupled with absolute desire. You could do anything with that self-directed force. It is that ultimate selfish power that brought the Compendium to completion.
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Wait, what myth? I thought people still debated when Sephiroth was himself or not in FFVII...Man, I seriously need to play that one again...I feel bad about my many years of bad-mouthing it...as if I've only played Chrono Cross the once, gotten the shoddy ending w/o using the Chrono Cross and immediately started complaining about the whole game not making any sense...>_>
Yes, friends, that's FFVII guilt you've just read...fanboy guilt. It's in league w/the occult I'm sure...
But I still hate Yuffie and you can't take that away from me!!! No one can!!!
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But I still hate Yuffie and you can't take that away from me!!! No one can!!!
She was a secret character, you didn't need her in the first place. :roll:
Sephiroth has to be one of the few final bosses to have character development. But that's just my opinion.
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Oh pashaw, that's like saying you didn't need to get Magus...Of course you had to get Magus! Plus, how was I to know how utterly annoying and stupid Yuffie was going to be before I got her? Eh? EH? Vincent barely made up for the horrors of the FFVII cast...I was spoiled by FFVI and CT...what can I say?
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I was spoiled by FFVI and CT...what can I say?
Now those are games that should be remade for the PS3.
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Ultimecia had zero motivation or character development for anything she did
Just to comment on this: She was never supposed to have much development. FF8 was about your characters, not about "defeating the great evil empire". Besides, no motivation is stated directly, but it's implied near the end of disc one when "Edea" is giving her speech.
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But I still hate Yuffie and you can't take that away from me!!! No one can!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/azrael19/yuffie_reeve.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/azrael19/Yuffie.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/azrael19/Yuffie-Kisaragi.jpg)
Give yourself to the dark side...you know you want to.
How can you hate anything that cute? How can you not be totally IN LOVE?
One of these days, I'm going to get my girlfriend to dress up like Yuffie. I hope I remember a rubber.
And just because a game's not about defeating the Evil Empire™ doesn't mean the adversaries don't need development.
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Too bad the main idea behind how the Rinoa=Ultimecia (that sorceresses live very long lifespans) was killed off by FF8's Ultimania.
So I've heard. Personally, I never got why the whole "sorceresses live very long lifespans" idea for R=U theory was ever used, when time travel (via time compression or something similar) is a lot more viable, as it actually has a link to the actual events in-game.
What about FFVIII? FFVIII has way more shit that is unexplained, and that whole Rinoa~Ultimecia theory could make a great game (thanks Silvercry :D)
Your welcome. :D
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Give yourself to the dark side...you know you want to.
Classic. I love it.
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[A Picture I Don't Want In My Quote]
[Another Picture I Don't Want In My Quote]
[A Third Picture I Don't Want In My Quote]
Give yourself to the dark side...you know you want to.
How can you hate anything that cute? How can you not be totally IN LOVE?
One of these days, I'm going to get my girlfriend to dress up like Yuffie. I hope I remember a rubber.
I don't care about her cuteness-factor (whatever it may or may not be)...The fact of the matter is that in FFI we got a kick ass Ninja that evolved from our Theif (which was good for the Running), in FFII, we got gipped (as far as I know, yet another reason it's such a sucky suck-fest), in FFIII, the Ninja Job Class is the ultimate physical Job Class (not counting the Onion Knight), in FFIV, we got the Ninja Prince Edge, in FFV, there was the Ninja Job Class again and that was ok, in FFVI we got the bad-ass in black, Shadow and then what do they give us in FFVII? Yuffie.
That's just not right. You don't go from Edge & Shadow to...her...
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Oh yeah, I'll agree that Yuffie isn't a very good representation of a ninja. Though really, Edge and Shadow fulfilled the role of "dark mysterious character" much more than the role of ninja; their choice of class was merely incidental. There's some kind of tendency in Japan to make dark characters ninjas by default. In FFVII, they fixed that by giving us Vincent, who's much cooler than the both of them, in part because he has the good sense to use a gun.
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Bah! Guns are too clumsy and random.
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Not if your opponent isn't equipped with a character shield. Unless you've got superspeed and precognition, a gun will always be preferable to a sword. Even if you do have super speed and precognition, you need training to use a sword effectively; guns require very little training for this same level of effectiveness.
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That also depends heavily on gun technology of the game's era...Which, I suppose, is virtually limitless since they are fantasy games...If his gun was so great how come it didn't do extra damage? As a matter of fact, isn't he the Magus of the physical attack in FFVII?
And I think that 'mysterious character is always a ninja' rule only applies to bad Japanese anime...Or I could classify it as oldschool cliché...Also, much like Chrono Trigger...Wow! Trigger is the Kevin Bacon of the RPG world...>_>...or not...
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Fantasy or not doesn't matter. LOTR's fantasy, and there are no guns to speak of. Technology and fictional metaphysics are largely independent of one another. And his ultimate weapon is the most reliable of FFVII's ultimates.
Also, I just changed religions. (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=202)
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I really have to advoid those JENOVA's Witnesses
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Boy, FF7 is sure addicting. The entire mythos and cast is colorful and interesting. And they're all self-willed.
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Not if your opponent isn't equipped with a character shield. Unless you've got superspeed and precognition, a gun will always be preferable to a sword. Even if you do have super speed and precognition, you need training to use a sword effectively; guns require very little training for this same level of effectiveness.
you are referring to the "video game world" right?
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Boy, FF7 is sure addicting. The entire mythos and cast is colorful and interesting. And they're all self-willed.
That's a joke, right?
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you are referring to the "video game world" right?
I'm referring to the state of affairs in reality. If we found a way to give someone massive super speed and precognition, they'd have a chance bringing a sword to a gun fight and winning. If not, they'd die from such an attempt.
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Boy, FF7 is sure addicting. The entire mythos and cast is colorful and interesting. And they're all self-willed.
That's a joke, right?
Not at all. Tifa, Vincent, Cloud, Barret...they're all acting of their own volition and free will. They all have their own agendas and cares. They are mentally mature people.
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I wouldn't say all of them. Cloud's journey is the journey to gain mental maturity and max out potential. He's a horribly unbalanced individual in FFVII, but by the end of AC he knows who he is and what he wants out of life.