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Enhasa Halls - Chrono Series Analysis => Characters, Plot, and Themes => Topic started by: rotorkid on March 06, 2004, 03:05:28 pm

Title: Serge's Memory...
Post by: rotorkid on March 06, 2004, 03:05:28 pm: I just noticed something in Chrono Cross, and I apologize if it has been pointed out before. Throughout the game, you see FMV videos of someone falling in the water, and of Kid reaching out her hand to help someone. Could it be that these are memories of Serge, and he is actually remembering himself in BOTH worlds, where he drowned and was saved at the same time? Again, I apologize if this has been stated before.
Title: Serge's Memory...
Post by: ZeaLitY on March 11, 2004, 10:34:48 pm: That is an excellent theory; nothing else seems plausable. Care to name it?
Title: Serge's Memory...
Post by: rotorkid on March 13, 2004, 01:44:58 am: Uhhh...Hmm... Bidimensional Memory Theory. Haha.
Title: Serge's Memory...
Post by: Green Dream on June 23, 2004, 07:43:24 pm: I beat through the game but I never remember that part. When do you see it?
Title: Serge's Memory...
Post by: Leebot on June 23, 2004, 09:17:22 pm: I always thought that he fell into the water and was then saved by Kid, so he would have memories of both events. The falling part could also have occured when he was attacked by the panther.
Title: Re: Serge's Memory...
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on September 30, 2018, 02:36:08 am: Mother flippin' thread revival!

So I saw this theory and thought it was entirely fascinating. Serge remembers both timeline divergents simultaneously; he remembers both drowing and being saved by post-Chrono Cross Kid.

I have been trying to scour the FMVs of the game to try and see where rotorkid mentioned someone falling into the water. Can someone point me to this?

The closest I can find would be here:
https://youtu.be/p4hMaQG5efo?t=564

In this, we see two scenes back-to-back, which never actually take place in-game. The first shows Kid standing on Opassa Beach, and the camera almost drifts towards her. She reaches out her hand, smiles serenely, and the POV is pulled into her eyes. Then, after an abrupt cut, we are floating amongst rock and coral, then look up at the water surface far above us, the sunlight encompassing all in a fade to white.

The two scenes are contrasts and symbolic - the timeline in which Future Kid saved young Serge, and then the timeline where Serge drowned.

This theory makes sense, just wondering if anyone can remember anything specific about Serge drowning in an FMV as originally mentioned by rotorkid.
Title: Re: Serge's Memory...
Post by: chrono.source on October 16, 2018, 12:55:08 pm: What would the mechanics of this theory consist of? Basically what catalyst or event specifically sparked this memory ability? Since Serge is such a unique person, what specifically about him, or that happened to him, would have caused this?
Title: Re: Serge's Memory...
Post by: skylark on October 16, 2018, 03:29:40 pm: IIRC, this scene shows just after Serge is changed into Lynx and shunted into the MC Escher painting. Wouldn't surprise me if dreaming about both possibilities was a side-effect of that.
Title: Re: Serge's Memory...
Post by: ThatGuy on December 12, 2018, 02:17:08 am: Memories... or visions?
Title: Re: Serge's Memory...
Post by: CptOvaltine on December 12, 2018, 05:00:28 am: I always just chalked it up to using resources that were cut from the final game...I like this theory a lot more!