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Title: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 03, 2006, 01:34:57 am
Venture your most passionate and inspirational quotes.

Quote from: William Hutchinson Murray


(1913 - 1996) Mountain Climber, Scottish Author

The Scottish Himalaya Expedition, 1951

"But when I said that nothing had been done I erred in one important matter. We had definitely committed ourselves and were halfway out of our ruts. We had put down our passage money--booked a sailing to Bombay. This may sound too simple, but is great in consequence. Until one is committed, there is hesitancy, the chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness. Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, the providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way. I learned a deep respect for one of Goethe's couplets:

Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it!"


Quote from: Winston Churchill
If you're going through hell, keep going.


Quote from: Jimi Hendrix
If I'm free, it's because I'm always running.

Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.


Quote from: Bruce Lee
Optimism is a faith that leads to success.

All fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns.

Circumstances hell! I make circumstances!

Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend. Adapt!

If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting, If I tell you I'm no good, You know I'm lying.

There are lots of guys around the world that are lazy. They have big fat guts. They talk about chi power and things they can do, but don't believe it.

Use only that which works, and take it from any place you find it.


Quote from: Gemma's quote about Naruto, translated by crustol
Although beaten, he kept thinking of a next move.

The power to believe in yourself -- that will become the power to change fate.

He knows that, and he knows it instinctively.


Quote from: Yondaime
Under the courageous, there is nothing.


Quote from: Rock Lee
The springtime of youth waits for no one!

Hard work.


Quote from: Roman Proverb
Fortes Fortuna Aduvat.


Quote from: Sir Edmund Hillary, first to climb Everest
Nobody climbs mountains for scientific reasons. Science is used to raise money for the expeditions, but you really climb for the hell of it.

People do not decide to become extraordinary. They decide to accomplish extraordinary things.

You don’t have to be a fantastic hero to do certain things – to compete. You can be just an ordinary chap, sufficiently motivated.


Quote from: Chrono Cross Frozen Flame
Fargo: Ha ha ha!!
   Arrgh, what are you
   trying to tell me, Flame?
   You say that we are all
   born in sin and all die
   in sin?
   Well, I say that is why we
   should continue to sin,
   then....
   Ha ha ha ha ha!
   Yet, is not the very
   reason we go on living so
   that we can make ammends
   for our sins!?

Pierre:
   I understand now!
   A true hero knows
   fear...
   And yet while knowing
   fear, he still has the
   courage to put up a
   fight!
   If moi lack the caliber
   to be called such then
   moi will just have to
   work harder!
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 03, 2006, 05:43:37 am
I have collected an entire book of quotes, ever-growing! Here are a few...

Quote from: Albert Einstein
“The world as we see it is only the world as we see it. Others may see it differently.”

It's not that I'm a relativist, but it is good to remember in the heat of an argument that everybody has a reason for being where and who they are.

Quote
“Quod erat demonstrandum.”

Which was the thing to be proven...

Quote from: T.S. Eliot
“We shall never cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.”

This is why materialism is rejected by so many people: They cannot bother themselves to take the time and trouble to invest in their corporeal existence. It doesn't matter if you eat one orange, or twenty, if you do not bother to taste what you eat, or appreciate what you have, or enjoy what you are. Religion offers easy lies; the physical world offers difficult truths. To stand back and observe the world from afar, to immerse oneself in the cusp of a single moment, to focus on the smallest leaf, and to travel the world and see all the leaves...is the only way to know this place in the slightest.

Quote
“White signifies Purity and Innocence; Red, Hardiness and Valor; and Blue, Vigilance, Perseverance and Justice.”

Looks like these colors ran after all. Tsk tsk. Depravity, America. Indolence. Blood on your hands; sloth in your hearts; villainy in your minds. The only color left for this country is shit brown, for the great big pile we've tossed ourselves into.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
“Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

Another Einstein quote, and one that I have to live out unfortunately all too often.

Quote from: Adlai Stevenson
“My definition of a free society is a society where it is safe to be unpopular.”

And that, my friends, is why Adlai Stevenson is dead.

Quote
“From the cowardice
That shrinks from new truths,
From the laziness
That is content with half-truths,
And from the arrogance
That thinks it knows all truth.
O God of truth,
deliver us.”

This is an old Hebrew prayer. It perfectly depicts the cowardice of the Religious Right, the ignorance of the teeming masses, and the self-serving arrogance of types like Daniel Krispin. All three are in abundance in this world; this is one reason why the truth is so important, and why I sometimes get people mad at me by calling bullshit on them instead of letting bygones be bygones.

Quote from: Wong-kei Ying
“A hero lives but a few moments, but a master holds on to his life.”

From a kung fu movie, yes, but important! We romanticize heroes unduly in this world; we call a thing "hero" who has no business wearing the title. We debase the word, and dilute it. And in our eagerness to devalue the label, those who wear the label also become devalued. Hence, the intrigue of this particular quote.

Quote
“In the beginning there was nothing. And God said let there be light and there was...nothing. (But at least you could see it.)”

Amen.

Quote
“To the degree that you impose your values upon others, they cease to be values and instead become judgments.”

Another lesson for the Religious Right to keep in mind when they proclaim to be living out Jesus' teachings. So, are any straight people in Massachusetts still married anymore?

Quote
“If you’re right you’ll never need to blow your stack, and if you’re wrong you never should.

This is one of those truisms that is easier said than done. Nevertheless, in this time when our tempers are under control, it may do us well to contemplate the wisdom of restraining one's anger wherever possible.

Quote
“‘After the meal green tea will be available to lift the astronaut’s spirits,’ the scientist said, perhaps overlooking the possibility that being the first Chinese astronaut might not be a big enough ego boost.”

CNN wrote this on the subject of the menu for China’s first space flight.

Quote from: Robert Heinlein
“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”

I often hear people say they are too busy, or too overworked, or too overwhelmed, to undertake fruitful enterprises. Many bad decisions are indefensible once the logic of Heinlein is taken into account. We must simply fess up, and, more than that, resolve not to let our mistakes recur.

Quote from: Hillaire Belloc
“Whatever happens
We have got
The Maxim gun
And they have not.”

Pithily written on the subject of British technological superiority circa 1900.

Quote
“Survival of the fittest.
Adios,

Unfit”

A 70-year-old man’s valedictory note; he jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge.

Quote from: Robert Heinlein
“They didn’t want it good, they wanted it Wednesday.”

Another Heinlein quip.

Quote from: Isolde
“You can’t make a point by being extreme in a compulsively extreme culture. From now on, I’m going to rebel by being quietly moderate.”

The first sentence is is one of the most underappreciated truths of our time. The second is open to interpretation...but what else is one to do?

Quote
“See the world as yourself, and then you can care for all things.”

I am forever astounded by how cruel people can be, to other people, to their environment, to their pets and belongings...it simply asounds me. We should do so well to remember ourselves when we deal with life.

Quote from: Celes Chere
“You want to live in this world the way it is? No? Then do something about it!”

Just don't get caught up in the "being extreme" boat, unless you know what you're doing. And you don't. In any case, meaningful change often begins with the simplest of choices, and the easiest of behaviors. Persistance, now that's hard.

Quote from: Abraham Lincoln
“Writing—the art of communicating thoughts to the mind—is the great invention of the world....Great, very great, in enabling us to converse with the dead, the absent, and the unborn, at all distances of time and space, and great not only in its direct benefits, but its great help to all other inventions.”

Perhaps explaining why Lincoln lives on even today...

Quote from: Robert W. Lucky
“In the final stages, before the user revolution occurs, word processing programs would begin to criticize our ideas. ‘Let me give a counterargument,’ the paper clip would begin.”

I fear many people would be no match for that spunky little paperclip.

Quote from: Maxim Myslivets
“So you see, even a fifth-grade schoolchild can solve second-order linear differential equations…sometimes.”

Once upon a time my Math 307 teacher explained a special case differential equation that is surprisingly straightforward, simple, and even fun. A fifth-grader really could solve it! Now, as for all the other differential equations out there...

Quote from: Julius Caesar
“If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.”

One of history's greatest minds speaks one of history's greatest pearls of practical knowledge. When we are under the law, we do well to obey it.

Quote
“I'm having a suspicion that ‘moral values’ means ‘anti-gay, anti-women, anti-science, anti-personal-liberty and anti-free-speech.’”

Remember the Republicans' "Culture of Life"? 1984 may have been a little late, but it got here.

Quote from: ZeaLitY
“These Wheel of Time people make no sense to me. I've met some before, and they seem totally absorbed in some fantasy world.”

I thought I'd post that one since our beloved Dear Leader of the Compendium earned a place in my Quote Book because of it.

Quote from: Wil Wheaton
“It’s raining here, and there’s a pretty strong breeze blowing across my backyard. There’s a tiny hummingbird with a shiny green breast sitting on a telephone wire that connects to the eave just above my office window...the wire’s moving all over the place, but he’s not letting go for anything. That’s cool.”

Am I the only one who reads Wil's blog?

Quote
“Contrary to popular belief, social validation won't make you complete.”

It takes a lot of courage, but we must understand that the mob is not the ultimate authority in this world. Peer pressure is usually worth resisting--or, better yet, avoiding altogether. A little aloofness, a little solitude...these would salve the wounds of many-a-poor soul.

Quote from: Irvin Kershner
“Yoda’s philosophy was quite simplistic. ‘If you get angry, you’re gonna lose.’ ‘Don't try, do.’ He has a basic philosophy that is very charming. Not very profound, although young people consider it profound. I wish they would read more.”

Irvin Kershner directed The Empire Strikes Back, the best Star Wars film. I mention his quote here because I think people bow too readily, too easily, to philosophies that may look nice, but have no real depth to them. Star Wars and its Force is just such a thing.

Quote from: Mark Twain
“Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.”

This one must not be taken literally. What it means is that the journey to a destination is seldom straightforward, and sometimes telling the truth to people does less a service for them and even for civilization itself than not telling it. It is very important to promulgate the truth, but often you have to be cunning about it. Hence, I would say that deceit is in truth's employ.

Quote from: Charles Towne
“It’s like the beaver told the rabbit as they stared at the Hoover Dam. ‘No, I didn’t build it myself. But it’s based on an idea of mine!’”

I just think this one's cute. Mr. Towne invented the laser.

Quote from: D.C. Simpson
“Hayao Miyazaki’s movies are for people who find their most elaborate dreams fascinating. I am one of those people, so I am a big fan.”

Me too.

Quote from: Virginia Woolf
“Why are women so much more interesting to men than men are to women?”

Why? Because the world is drowning in sexism. All these things relate back to each other, you know.

Quote from: Socrates
“There is but one good, knowledge; and but one evil, ignorance.”

Five years ago, I thought I had been to discover the universe's ultimate truth. And here Socrates came up with it over two thousand years ago. I tell ya, it's hard to be original anymore!

Quote from: Mark Twain
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”

I fear it's the latter. What do you think?

Quote from: Voltaire
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

The legacy of Christianity, QED. But don't rest on your laurels yet, ye nonbelievers. Religion hasn't got a monopoly on this one. Be careful!

~~~
And of course my personal life's motto:

Quote from: Mr. Spock
“There are always…possibilities.”

Don't you forget it.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Zaperking on January 03, 2006, 08:48:14 am
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Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 03, 2006, 04:07:25 pm
Quote from: Mark Twain
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."

Quote from: General George Patton
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

Quote from: General George Patton
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."

Quote from: HK-47
Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope...Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticule, and together, achieving a singular purpose against statistically long odds.


Well, there are some quotes from George Patton, and what HK-47 (hes the assassin droid from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) thinks love is.  I probably have more, somewhere, but these are the only good ones readily avaliable right now.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on January 03, 2006, 06:28:56 pm
Ooo... good quotes there. I wonder... Lord J, do you know if Caesar said that before or after he marched on Rome? Oh, and I'm not quite up on my Latin... what does that one Latin one mean? I quite enjoy quotes in all their forms (the Oxford book of quotations is something to be picked up in moderation, as one can become amazed with just how many clever phrases people have come up with in history.)
Now, there are probably a hundred quotes that I could consider good - likely more, and I think think there are probably a hundred that I like and have merely forgotten. I mean, a full half of Shakespeare is almost worthy of quotes. Just reading through your lists there I find that most of them are clever in their own ways. I'll just consider a few. Let's see...

Just for the sake of style, and overall importance to western literature (and the influence the book had on me as a whole):

Quote from: Homer
Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus' son Achilleus
and its devestation, which put pain thousandfold upon the Achaians
Hurled in their multitudes to the house of Hades strong souls
of heroes, but gave their bodies to be the delicate feasting
of dogs, of all birds, and the will of Zeus was accomplished
since that time when first there stood in division of conflict
Atreus' son the lord of men, and brilliant Achilleus


Popularally, this is from Orff's music. But the lyrics themselves are from a 13th century work. I rather like the whole two songs based around the idea of the variance of Fortune, but I suppose this short quote sums it all up.

Quote from: Carmina Burana: Fortuna Imperiatix Mundi: O Fortuna

O Fortuna
velut Luna
statu variabilis
trans:
O Fortune
like the moon
you are ever changing


And here, an ancient Greek saying that I am so very fond of:
Quote from: The Classical Greeks

Pathei Mathos
trans:
Wisdom through suffering


And here, from the end of Oedipus Tyrannus, and echoing the wisdom of Solon... this was a common idea amongst the Greeks. Essentially... one never knows what misfortune will befall. If things are going well, prepare for ruin.
Quote from: The Classical Greeks
Count no mortal happy till he has passed the final limit of his life secure from pain.


Quote from: (I forget, but often quoted by my father)
When someone ceases believing in God they will not believe nothing, they will believe anything.


Here is Tolkien's deft explanation for how the all benevolent God of his stories could allow evil and sufferings:
Quote from: Tolkien
Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought in to Ea, and evil yet be good to have been.


Advice for moderation from Ecclesiastes.
Quote from: King Solomon (reputedly)

Do not be overrighteous,
neither be overwise -
why destroy yourself?
Do not be overwicked,
and do not be a fool -
why die before your time?
It is good to grasp the one
and not let go of the other.
The man who fears God will avoid all extremes.


Honestly, I could think of a hundred others, and to compile a list of favourites for me is nearly impossible. But these certainly rank amongst them. Like I said, I love quotes, and just reading through everyone else's I think 'wow, history has sure produced a manifold number of wonderful writers'. But, Lord J, I would contest one thing: differential equations are never fun. Okay, that's a joke, but truthfully, I've never been good at them. I am fortunate that all such classes dealing with them are behind me. But actually, I've heard the sentiments of that quote before in one of my engineering classes.

But hey, do you notice a trend in each person's quotes? ZeaLitY is mostly about perseverence and striving forward in the face of difficulty. Lord J has a certain intellectual streak - knowledge and understanding above all. And I've got a rather grim fate-centered trend. Funny, eh?
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 04, 2006, 11:11:57 am
A grudging “welcome back” to the General board, Daniel. (What is your real name, anyway?) Now let’s not hijack yet another thread, yes? You are old enough to behave yourself.

Quote from: Daniel Krispin
…do you know if Caesar said that before or after he marched on Rome?

As told by Cicero, in his De Officiis.

Ah, Julius Caesar! One of history’s most well-known sinistrals, and the namesake of my birth month. He revived an ailing republic, preserved countless historical writings, and crucially influenced the shape of the world to this very day. Dante assigned his betrayers the cruelest punishment in Hell, and, against all democratic tradition, there were no few people in his time who wanted him to put on that crown—which he never did. He is still one of the greatest people our species has ever produced. He had another quote:

Quote from: Julius Caesar
I had rather be first in a village than second at Rome.

Such beautiful ambition was perhaps the inspiration for Milton when he wrote Satan's famous line centuries later. And of course with such a mindset, Caesar ultimately surmounted his own poetic dilemma and achieved the status of being first in Rome after all.

But his greatest quote of all, in my mind, is perhaps one from whose contemplation you might emerge the richer:

Quote from: Julius Caesar
“Libenter homines et id quod volunt, credunt.”

“What men wish, they like to believe.”

Quote from: Daniel Krispin
Oh, and I'm not quite up on my Latin... what does that one Latin one mean?

As I said in my commentary below the quote, it means (more or less) “…which was the thing to be proven.” It is most commonly used nowadays as an exclamation to indicate that one has successfully completed an argument. Often it is abbreviated to “QED.”

Quote from: Daniel Krispin
Quote
Pathei Mathos

There’s something else I know a little about. (Dealing with you being one good example.) Obviously it is an adage you hold deeply in your personal philosophy. We’re not so far apart in that respect, but in my case I do not shut out the parallel truth: “Wisdom through pleasure.”

Quote from: Daniel Krispin
But hey, do you notice a trend in each person's quotes? ZeaLitY is mostly about perseverence and striving forward in the face of difficulty. Lord J has a certain intellectual streak - knowledge and understanding above all.

Interesting you should put it that way. I do see the difference between Z’s quotes and mine, but I would not describe it like that.

Quote from: Daniel Krispin
…silence is wisdom you have yet to learn…

If only you knew! On this occasion I am tempted to share something about my personal life that develops your statement into an irony. But I suppose your politeness is simple courtesy, and you aren’t terribly interested in the real Josh, but only your caricature of him. Well, so be it. Now that you have recovered from your last experience with me, you are welcome back here, and I do mean it. But remember that Solomon you quoted, in your own interest. Your lovely sermon is no more than an eloquent string of insults, which naught but reinforces what I said earlier about your arrogance. If you weren’t so caught up in yourself, you might see that. And I don’t blame you for being cross with me! You are, after all, human like the rest of us.

Ah, but these things are neither here nor there, and I am out of quotes!

Well…there is always my new sig. And, perhaps, just one more:

Quote from: Tacitus
“Omne ignotum pro magnifico est.”

“We have great notions of everything unknown.”
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Leebot on January 04, 2006, 04:33:38 pm
Let's see... a few of my own here. Maybe I'll think of some more later.

Quote
All I know is that I know nothing else. The rest is just guesses.


Quote
In my darkest hour, I looked deep within myself. I searched for meaning; I searched for a piece of God. I found nothing, so that's what I believe in now.


Quote from: Pete Townshend
There's no easy way to be free.


Quote
Entire books have been written defining Good and Evil. I can define each in one word. Good: Us. Evil: Them.


Quote
You claim the forces of good will always triumph, but you've got cause and effect mixed up. The forces that triumph always call themselves good.


Quote
Knowledge is not a zero-sum game.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: JossiRossi on January 04, 2006, 05:07:47 pm
Quote
Whenever I read a quote, and realize if was taken not by an outside party, but the writer themselves, I can't help but wonder what kind of ridiculous self important image that person must have. -JossiRossi










Joke. Joke. I just happen to like irony.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 04, 2006, 06:38:25 pm
Quote from: JossiRossi
Quote
Whenever I read a quote, and realize if was taken not by an outside party, but the writer themselves, I can't help but wonder what kind of ridiculous self important image that person must have. -JossiRossi

Joke. Joke. I just happen to like irony.

I have a quote in my Quote Book attributed to me!

Quote from: Josh
“I just learned from a Junior Trivial Pursuit edition Pringles potato crisp that horned lizards shoot blood from their eyes when threatened.”

Sure, it's not quite up to the caliber of Julius Caesar or Mark Twain, but I'll bet you didn't know about the blood-shooting lizards either! Unless, that is, you enjoy a good Pringles Potato Crisp every now and again. =)
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Hadriel on January 04, 2006, 07:46:08 pm
Many of my favorite quotes are at least somewhat humorous in their nature.  I'm of the belief that without humor, life is unlivable.  My mind is quite fragmented at times; without that aspect of my being, I would have long ago descended into chaos, death, and unspeakable acts.

Quote from: CATS
All your base are belong to us!


One of the most hysterical linguistic screwups of all time, bar none.

Quote from: Fred Kwan
Well, we could reconfigure the solar matrix in parallel for endothermic propulsion.


Probably my favorite line from GalaxyQuest, making fun of the endless technobabble that has largely consumed the last several seasons of Star Trek in lieu of actual characterization.  Seeing as science fiction and fantasy often stands on shaky ground, both scientifically and philosophically, it's also a great reminder to know what you're talking about.

Quote from: Every Yuuzhan Vong ever
Embrace the pain.


Call them goths pumped up on steroids.  Call them emos in crab suits.  Call them the result of a drinking binge at LucasBooks.  I only wish I could come up with a species this cool when I was drunk.  But their philosophy adds an excellent counterpoint to the sometimes woefully-underdeveloped Jedi take on the universe; not that the Jedi take is itself undeveloped, but it's rarely, if ever, properly described or elaborated upon.

You've got Luke trying to run his Order in a direction that avoids the faults of the old Order's rather simplistic and naive outlook on the universe, and then WHAM, these badasses come in and start messing a lot of shit up in the name of their gods, psychological personifications of the life force of their home planet Yuuzhan'tar.  They aren't just experts in the art of combat; the espionage and political prowess of the disciples of Yun-Harla, the Yuuzhan Vong trickster goddess easily likened to Loki, confounds public opinion and divides the New Republic against itself, allowing the Yuuzhan Vong to capture and despoil much of the galaxy despite the Republic's vastly larger infrastructure, military, and resource base, including capturing and holding Coruscant for two years.  Defeating them is a grueling process that costs 365 trillion lives (yeah, you read that number right) and requires both a ruthlessly efficient approach and an eye towards the philosophical Jedi angle first seriously explored in Timothy Zahn's novels, in order to prevent the rise of another Empire after the fact.  The Yuuzhan Vong War personified the history of the Jedi Order, and in turn makes manifest the desire for emotional and rational balance present within all sentient beings.

Quote from: Princess Zelda
The flow of time is cruel...Its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it.


This is irony at its best; I prefer to think it's intentional.  Not only does Link have the power to travel through time and change the course of history, time itself is a rather fluid thing on its own.  Obviously, it describes the state of life for people who aren't Link, Crono, Marty McFly, or the cast of a Star Trek show.  However, when thinking of time travel, we tend to overlook that those who can time-travel are also left to fight fate; changing the past can be just as hard and painful as altering the situation in the present.  Zelda herself, not possessing the Master Sword, was left to languish and despair for seven years while Ganondorf turned Hyrule into a tyrannical regime filled with monsters, death, and general suckitude.  The fact that she immediately teaches Link the Minuet of Forest afterward serves as an excellent counterpoint to her sharp warning of how it works for most people, perhaps to add to the realization that yeah, the fate of the world IS in his hands.

Quote from: Chef
Haven't you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?


Quote from: Pompous Military Bitch Dude
I don't listen to hip-hop!


Exchanges like this are what make me love Chef.

Quote from: Pious Augustus
I had no knowledge of what was to come.  Nor did I care.  How the knowledge changed me...It will also change you.  As you read this, you will come to learn fear as I have.  You too, will come to understand, or you will perish.

To think that once I could not see beyond the veil of our reality...to see those who dwell behind.  My life now has purpose, for I have learned the frailty of flesh and bone.  I was once a fool...


There's nothing more terrifying to anyone than to have their entire concept of how reality works torn out from under them like they lost control of a skateboard.  In most circumstances, the most terrifying stories deal in circumstances that aren't blatantly supernatural, or at least outside of our current realm of understanding.  People who wish to sap the sanity from others exploit the selfish nature of all beings to do this, whether that nature extends toward their survival, their spiritual and intellectual growth, or some harmful addiction.

Also, it's just freaky to watch your own head fall off and then have it recite the "to be or not to be" speech, or to have your GameCube fake a restart and the PS2 or Xbox startup screen appears instead, followed by the "flashback" and your character exclaiming frantically that it isn't really happening.

Quote from: Thomas Edison
I have not failed.  I have just discovered 10,000 ways that won't work.


Both humorous and inspirational, and largely true of much of engineering and science, and pretty much anything that requires experimentation of any kind.

Quote from: Cloud Strife
...Shut up.  The cycle of nature and your stupid plan don't mean a thing.  Aeris is gone.  Aeris will no longer talk, no longer laugh, cry, or get angry...What about us...what are WE supposed to do?  What about my pain?  My fingers are tingling.  My mouth is dry.  My eyes are burning!


Quote from: Sephiroth
What are you saying?  Are you trying to tell me you have feelings, too?


A corollary of being effective, both in war and in peace, is that some people are inevitably going to die, or get screwed over.  Whether we're talking about terrorists taking hostages, heroes giving their lives without true physical reward or even understanding, or the arguably warranted oppression of lower classes in different societies, someone is going to suffer to make civilization work.  This much is fairly obvious.  In Sephiroth's idea of morality, this someone just happened to be Aeris; this ended up being his undoing, reaping the consequences of his own style of morality, that which revolves around death and hatred.  The good thing is that technological advancement can reduce the impact of some of these "issues of civilization" quite a good bit, but knowledge alone won't do the job.  It's easy to lose sight of the fact that you have to have the will to fight, to grow, and to progress as a civilization and individually, rather than to give up and give in to one's more primal nature.  One might think that technology alone will not solve humanity's problems, but it isn't just technology, it's what the technology represents; the collective and individual growth of humanity's sum of knowledge, and thus our growth as beings in the larger sense.  The problem is, of course, that it can be hard to gauge the level of technology necessary to actually fix many of our foremost problems, and it can be equally hard to determine what new problems may arise.  Knowledge, both of ourselves and the universe, represents everything that we are.  Aeris' death was no mere emotional tool, but a reflection of the harsh reality of the darker side of humanity, the tendency to take the convenient road simply because it's convenient, rather than for its actual merits.  As much effort as it took to create a scheme to become a god, more effort still would have been required to ferret out injustice and destroy it individually.

I have some more, but I have shit to do, so I'll post them when I think of them.
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Post by: Daniel Krispin on January 04, 2006, 07:47:23 pm
Quote from: Lord J esq
A grudging “welcome back” to the General board, Daniel. (What is your real name, anyway?) Now let’s not hijack yet another thread, yes? You are old enough to behave yourself.

Real name... hmm... well, on the internet, my realest is probably the old Guardian of Ages I used to go by. Or the Greek version of the name I now use on some, which is Alexaion. I should probably change it to that. Why do you ask? But Daniel (very grimly meaning 'God is my judge' in old Hebrew... ask Legend, I think he'll confirm that; it goes along well with my fatalistic quotes, eh?) is what I go by for now.

Oh, I've done as you requested. My apologies.

 
Quote from: Lord J esq

As told by Cicero, in his De Officiis.

Ah, Julius Caesar! One of history’s most well-known sinistrals, and the namesake of my birth month. He revived an ailing republic, preserved countless historical writings, and crucially influenced the shape of the world to this very day. Dante assigned his betrayers the cruelest punishment in Hell, and, against all democratic tradition, there were no few people in his time who wanted him to put on that crown—which he never did. He is still one of the greatest people our species has ever produced.


And he himself named for the son of Aeneas. I really must read that some day. Right now, I'm more into Greek literature, but I'll get around to Latin in time. Yes, Caesar was without doubt amongst the most important figures ever in world history. And, I've heard, was a fair writer in his own right.

Quote from: Lord J esq

Quote from: Julius Caesar
I had rather be first in a village than second at Rome.

Such beautiful ambition was perhaps the inspiration for Milton when he wrote Satan's famous line centuries later. And of course with such a mindset, Caesar ultimately surmounted his own poetic dilemma and achieved the status of being first in Rome after all.


For which he was duly executed, Brutus following the tyrannicide tendancies of his family. The Romans had a deep-seated fear of kings, after all. But what Caesar grasped and achieved for a short while, his adopted son brought to completion. Personally, though, I like the Antonine emperors the best.  

Quote from: Lord J esq

Quote from: Julius Caesar
“Libenter homines et id quod volunt, credunt.”

“What men wish, they like to believe.”
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I suppose that is true. He was an excellent propogandist, after all. Wait... are you certain that's the right tranlation? I might just be seeing things, but isn't liber freedom? It almost seems more like 'What will give men freedom, they credit.'? But I'm probably wrong. As I said, Latin is not exactly my thing yet.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Hadriel on January 04, 2006, 09:02:34 pm
I always thought your real name was Daniel.  Sounded too real to be a pseudonym.
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Post by: ZeaLitY on January 05, 2006, 02:13:14 am
Oh, how could I forget...ony of my most cherished:

Quote from: Prince of Persia: Warrior Within Tagline
One fate. One million ways to defy it.
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Post by: CronoVolta on January 05, 2006, 04:37:02 am
Omar Rodriguez Lopez:
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I still don't really know how to be with myself. Which is why- and I do think most of us do- feel so alone.


Douglas Adams:
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His whole life felt like some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.


At The Drive-In:
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If your map was torn. Navigate.
If your compass broke. Navigate.
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Post by: Kazuki on January 05, 2006, 10:46:13 pm
Muichimotsu, a saying in Zen Buddhism

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"Hold nothing. If you meet the Buddha, kill him. If you meet the patriarchs, kill them. Free of all, bound by nothing. You live your life simply as it is."


A saying I remembered particularly clearly, as the reading of the book, Siddartha has fired up an interest in myself for Zen Buddhism.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Mystik3eb on January 06, 2006, 02:04:09 am
I have one favorite quote, it's by my grandfather.

Quote from: Francis Scannell
Make all your mistakes in pencil.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 06, 2006, 04:00:02 am
Quote from: George Patton
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived.


We need to remember the good people do, not simply the tragedy of their deaths.

Quote from: Richard Proenneke
This is here and now. Something I'm sure of. How can heaven be any better than this?


Richard Proenneke is the man. If you live in Oregon, Washington, or British Columbia (probably Alaska, too) they run a documentary he made all the time on public access. I've also read "One Man's Wilderness", taken from his diaries. For those that don't know, Richard Proenneke decided to go live up in Alaska. So when he was 51, he packed up, found a site, and built a cabin. Himself. Using only hand tools. He is one of the greats; he had a dream, and he achieved it. He didn't rely on others to the point of allowing them to be a possible intereference, he just went out and did it. This quote is when he is near where he built his cabin, with his friend, a religious pilot.

Quote from: Richard Proenneke
One life at a time. If there's another one-well, that's a bonus. And I'm not so sure of that next one.


The trouble with death based belief systems is that by de-emphasizing this world, you shut yourself off to so much beauty. Proenneke is a reminder to me to see the amazing glory of this world, and to live in it, be a part of it, and revell in it. If there is a next life, I'll deal with it when I get there.
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Post by: Exodus on January 07, 2006, 05:33:57 pm
The only one that really comes to mind is a comment Seth MacFarlane made after being questioned about narrowly escaping death by missing one of the flights involved in the 9/11 attacks he was scheduled to fly.

Quote from: Seth MacFarlane
The only reason it hasn't really affected me as it maybe could have is I didn't really know that I was in any danger until after it was over, so I never had that panic moment. After the fact, it was sobering, but people have a lot of close calls; you're crossing the street and you almost get hit by a car . . . this one just happened to be related to something massive. I really can't let it affect me because I'm a comedy writer. I have to put that in the back of my head.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2006, 03:00:50 am
Omar Rodriguez:
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“Don’t take any advice from anyone! I think every person intuitively knows what works for him or her. When you do something and it feels good, keep doing it. I think that’s the most important thing. Everybody is an individual, and everybody has a different thing that works for them, and nothing at all is ever wrong!”
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: kennyj2003 on January 08, 2006, 04:32:41 am
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Tis better to be hated for who you are, than to be loved for who you are not
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Post by: Tonjevic on January 08, 2006, 10:18:47 am
That is so untrue. Whoever said that is a philisophical moron.
Consider it thus: To be hated, is REALLY horrible. To be loved is REALLY great.
To not pretend is kind of alright because of less stress. And to pretending can become a little stressful.
People in society these days, and even in ages gone by, can spend thier whole lives pretending, and being comfortable and happy.
Politicians, for instance. Although they pretend and are hated, but you get the gist of it.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 08, 2006, 09:34:24 pm
Quote from: Tonjevic
That is so untrue. Whoever said that is a philisophical moron.
Consider it thus: To be hated, is REALLY horrible. To be loved is REALLY great.
To not pretend is kind of alright because of less stress. And to pretending can become a little stressful.
People in society these days, and even in ages gone by, can spend thier whole lives pretending, and being comfortable and happy.
Politicians, for instance. Although they pretend and are hated, but you get the gist of it.


Have you been both? I have, and as bad as being hated is, it's still better to be hated honestly than loved dishonestly. Whether it's for who you aren't, or for what you are, love without honesty is meaningless and hollow.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on January 08, 2006, 11:33:42 pm
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Quote from: Tonjevic
That is so untrue. Whoever said that is a philisophical moron.
Consider it thus: To be hated, is REALLY horrible. To be loved is REALLY great.
To not pretend is kind of alright because of less stress. And to pretending can become a little stressful.
People in society these days, and even in ages gone by, can spend thier whole lives pretending, and being comfortable and happy.
Politicians, for instance. Although they pretend and are hated, but you get the gist of it.


Have you been both? I have, and as bad as being hated is, it's still better to be hated honestly than loved dishonestly. Whether it's for who you aren't, or for what you are, love without honesty is meaningless and hollow.

I agree with Tonjevic. If you have the choice, seldom to never is it preferable to choose people's contempt rather than their admiration. Playing other people's emotions is just a tactic, one that, in a pair of able hands, works to your advantage. Who cares if the people are warranted in their beliefs or not? Who cares if the You they know is the You you are? Unless you've got self-confidence issues, it doesn't matter why people feel about you the way they do, and, thus, the better they regard you, the better it is for you, period. There are exceptions, but the general rule is obvious.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 09, 2006, 12:01:06 am
Quote from: Lord J esq
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Quote from: Tonjevic
That is so untrue. Whoever said that is a philisophical moron.
Consider it thus: To be hated, is REALLY horrible. To be loved is REALLY great.
To not pretend is kind of alright because of less stress. And to pretending can become a little stressful.
People in society these days, and even in ages gone by, can spend thier whole lives pretending, and being comfortable and happy.
Politicians, for instance. Although they pretend and are hated, but you get the gist of it.


Have you been both? I have, and as bad as being hated is, it's still better to be hated honestly than loved dishonestly. Whether it's for who you aren't, or for what you are, love without honesty is meaningless and hollow.

I agree with Tonjevic. If you have the choice, seldom to never is it preferable to choose people's contempt rather than their admiration. Playing other people's emotions is just a tactic, one that, in a pair of able hands, works to your advantage. Who cares if the people are warranted in their beliefs or not? Who cares if the You they know is the You you are? Unless you've got self-confidence issues, it doesn't matter why people feel about you the way they do, and, thus, the better they regard you, the better it is for you, period. There are exceptions, but the general rule is obvious.


Except that people base their expecations on the you they percieve. By allowing the deception to continue, all you are doing is setting you and the other person up for a fall that will come later, so that you can feed your ego now. It's dishonest, cruel, and ultimately benefits no one. If you want to manipulate people for your own personal gain, that's your buisneuss, but you cannot base a personal relationship of any sort on lies.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 09, 2006, 12:11:23 am
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Except that people base their expecations on the you they percieve. By allowing the deception to continue, all you are doing is setting you and the other person up for a fall that will come later, so that you can feed your ego now. It's dishonest, cruel, and ultimately benefits no one. If you want to manipulate people for your own personal gain, that's your buisneuss, but you cannot base a personal relationship of any sort on lies.

Dreamer, you're adorable! If only life were as straightforward as that, eh?

Edit: I finally got around to responding to the rest of the stuff in this thread:

Quote from: Daniel Krispin
Real name... hmm... well, on the internet, my realest is probably the old Guardian of Ages I used to go by. Or the Greek version of the name I now use on some, which is Alexaion. I should probably change it to that. Why do you ask? But Daniel (very grimly meaning 'God is my judge' in old Hebrew... ask Legend, I think he'll confirm that; it goes along well with my fatalistic quotes, eh?) is what I go by for now.

Our names are important. They are the symbolic seat of our identity, and don't think that doesn't shape the way we think! I always have to catch myself from calling ZeaLitY by his real name when we chat online, because he prefers "ZeaLitY," whereas I am tempted to go for the center. My username might be "Lord J Esquire," but Josh is more sincere.

Quote from: Daniel Krispin
Quote from: Lord J esq
Quote from: Julius Caesar
“Libenter homines et id quod volunt, credunt.”

“What men wish, they like to believe.”

Wait... are you certain that's the right tranlation? I might just be seeing things, but isn't liber freedom? It almost seems more like 'What will give men freedom, they credit.'? But I'm probably wrong. As I said, Latin is not exactly my thing yet.

Libenter means "willingly," or "with pleasure." (I even checked the Latin dictionary to be sure.) The Latin grammar orders sentences differently than they do in English, but as best I can make it out, the most literal translation is "What men wish, they willingly believe."

Quote from: Mystik3eb
I have one favorite quote, it's by my grandfather.

Quote from: Francis Scannell
Make all your mistakes in pencil.

Ah, there is a whole beautiful class of quotes like this! I think the one that I like the most is:

Quote from: Stephan Grillet
Keep your words sweet -- you may have to eat them.

That's one I have to keep in mind. It's hard being forceful without stepping on anyone's toes. It's an art!

Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Quote from: Richard Proenneke
One life at a time. If there's another one-well, that's a bonus. And I'm not so sure of that next one.

Yes, hear hear! Well said! Let me put the same idea another way:

Quote from: Leon Uris in [i]Trinity[/i], pp. 275, “The Booley House”
“I’ve always theorized,” Mr. Ingram said, “that when we do get to heaven we’ll find it a rather decent place. Our earthly wants and woes will be lifted forever. However, one must consider that, with all the billions of souls there, the administration of the place must be staggering.” […]

“For example, transporting the souls in and out of purgatory. Someone must register them all and keep track of them just to see if they are qualified to stay. I’m certain that everyone will be assigned to a job of sorts, one he or she likes, but the organization of the place has to be tremendous. After one is there for six or seven centuries all the contentment might get a little dull.”

Obviously, we hadn’t heard this assessment of heaven from Father Lynch and had supposed that everything would be done up there by magic. Mr. Ingram’s dissertation on the logistics of running heaven was certainly a revelation.

“To get to my point,” he said,” it seems that we have to have moments of turmoil to contrast to moments of peace in order to truly understand and appreciate that peace. What we have captured this moment in this meadow is an instant of peace. Right here and now, this is paradise, do you agree?”

“Aye, it’s paradise,” Conor said.

“What we have confused is the belief that heaven and paradise are the same. So long as we are capable of moments of paradise here, we ought to cherish them, because we may not find paradise in heaven.”

“Bravo,” Miss Lockhart said.

“You’re right,” I said, “heaven can’t be any better than this.”

After that I played the flute again and we all sang some Scottish songs led by Mr. Ingram.

It's bad enough that people will waste their whole lives waiting for the next world. What's worse is that they'll ruin other people's lives on this world for the same reason. That's ones of the things that drives me so up the wall with these fundamentalist Rapturists whose ideological policies amount to "Let's destroy the world and slaughter our neighbors since God is going to nuke this satanic dump anyway!" Some prophecies are self-fulfilling!
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 09, 2006, 03:16:58 am
Quote from: Lord J esq
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Except that people base their expecations on the you they percieve. By allowing the deception to continue, all you are doing is setting you and the other person up for a fall that will come later, so that you can feed your ego now. It's dishonest, cruel, and ultimately benefits no one. If you want to manipulate people for your own personal gain, that's your buisneuss, but you cannot base a personal relationship of any sort on lies.

Dreamer, you're adorable! If only life were as straightforward as that, eh?


While it may be a bit of an over simplification, it's basically true. This is the voice of experience talking, not some lofty philosophical idea. I've been in both places, and I know what I'm talking about.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Mystik3eb on January 09, 2006, 04:05:30 am
I do agree with RD, here. I've been in situations where I started getting positive attention and "love" because of something that was false or misunderstood. Before I realized the nature of what people loved about me, sure, the feeling of being loved was indeed fantastic. But once I realized the truth, it ate at me like those nasty worm-leeches in King Kong.

As for being hated for who I am: oh well! One of the most important lessons we humans need to learn in order to eventually reach that stage of life called "happiness" is to realize the things we can't change, the things we can't fix, the things we just have to live with. One of those things, I've learned with much despair recently, is that people will dislike you no matter what you do. Not getting over this fact will get you nowhere but in a dark corner until you learn to ignore it and press on, maybe even let it support you by fueling you somehow.

Allowing the love of things undeserved to grow around me is like poisoning myself.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on January 09, 2006, 05:54:06 am
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Quote from: Lord J esq
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Except that people base their expecations on the you they percieve. By allowing the deception to continue, all you are doing is setting you and the other person up for a fall that will come later, so that you can feed your ego now. It's dishonest, cruel, and ultimately benefits no one. If you want to manipulate people for your own personal gain, that's your buisneuss, but you cannot base a personal relationship of any sort on lies.

Dreamer, you're adorable! If only life were as straightforward as that, eh?


While it may be a bit of an over simplification, it's basically true. This is the voice of experience talking, not some lofty philosophical idea. I've been in both places, and I know what I'm talking about.

I do not blame you for being naïve to the pragmatic depth of our world. To truly embrace such an understanding without becoming a cynic requires a Machiavellian audacity that would overwhelm most people's integrity. Not to imply that such a fate would befall you--you're one of the most respectable people on the whole Compendium--but that perhaps it is a mountain steep enough that you do not wish to climb it, or have never even thought to look high enough to see its rewarding peak.

Let me put it in words you already know, so that I am not telling you anything new, but merely repeating wisdom that is already your own: Life is not a fairytale. We do not all live happily ever after. Justice is seldom served. People are cunning, and passionate, and this puts them into conflict with one another regardless of their intentions. There is no such thing as good behavior, for the term implies that a behavior can be judged outside of its context, and this is an absurdity that few people bother to appreciate. Instead, I offer the real truth: We can only act in accordance with our convictions, or against them.

This places the emphasis on becoming creatures of good character. If random acts of "good behavior" are no longer our moral god, then we must turn to the more difficult work of evaluating our motives. Suddenly we are revealed to live in a world where ends and means are indistinguishable. We see that life has no chapter breaks, no punctuations. The story continues on. And therefore if we are going to be sincere in our passions, and humble in our capacity for ignorance, then we must act in our own interest with the confidence of knowing that we are acting true to ourselves. So goes the continuation of life as we know it.

With that logical framework in place, it is simply a matter of looking at the dilemma and choosing the better alternative. To the extent that our convictions are noble, we must always seek to empower ourselves. And to the extent that our species is noble, we still must always seek to empower ourselves, counting on humanity's innate goodness--its penchant for discovery, for imagination, its indomitable drive--to overwhelm the corruption of those whose intentions are not noble after all. This is manifest in everything from the rule of law to the common courtesies.

Which, then, is the more empowering? I say that to gain the favor and trust and love and respect of others is surely superior to the alternative, which invites their ire and suspicion and hatred and contempt. There are certainly exceptions where the latter is preferable, but the general rule seems almost painfully obvious: If we are made to choose between these two extremes--as the original quote under discussion indeed compelled us to do--we must choose people's love.

In a surprising way, it hardly matters if that love is well-founded or not.

Someone might say that ill-gotten love is going to collapse in on itself like a house of cards--indeed, that is one of the two main objections that you and others have raised thus far. But I say this is an extraneous factor in the equation. If choosing people's love over their hate is amended with the condition that this love, simply by its virtue of being misguided, is doomed to fail, then there is no dilemma after all: On one hand we have people's contempt, and on the other hand we have the same. But if the love is sustainable, then we should choose it, and maintain it as necessary.

Indeed, Radical_Dreamer, the case you are proposing is less interesting than the case I am proposing. Supposing that this love can be extended indefinitely, that it will not fail simply because it is misguided, then perhaps you can better understand my position. Garnering the love of the people is just a tactic. It serves us. It serves us individually. It serves us all.

Is this to the detriment of those who give you their love? That depends on who you are. But I like to think, opposite the Christians, that ours is not quite so miserable a species, and that we continue to grow over time. And I tell you this, in absolute frankness: It is this very mechanism which I have described, that allows leaders to lead. If ordinary people understood that their leaders were answerable to the pragmatic concerns of the real world, rather than ideology alone, they would the lot of them be up in arms.

=)

Quote from: Mystik3eb
I do agree with RD, here. I've been in situations where I started getting positive attention and "love" because of something that was false or misunderstood. Before I realized the nature of what people loved about me, sure, the feeling of being loved was indeed fantastic. But once I realized the truth, it ate at me like those nasty worm-leeches in King Kong.

Radical_ Dreamer made the best case for the first major objection I have seen; you make the best case for the second (and final) such objection. However, this one is easily refuted. Follow along, if you will:

As I mentioned before, we mustn't let issues of self-confidence overwhelm our zeal to make good choices. I recognize how hard this can be to live out in practice, but it nevertheless remains true. If people give you their love for a false reason, and you are uncomfortable with that, such that you feel unable to continue in the deception, then that is a character flaw: something to be repaired!

In life we are often faced with being unpopular. But, contrary to popular opinion, social validation will not make you complete. (I believe that was a quote in my list earlier in this topic.) If we submit our decision-making authority to our fear of being unpopular, we surrender our identity to the void. Do not do it!
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Post by: Mystik3eb on January 09, 2006, 04:09:12 pm
Quote from: Lord J esq
As I mentioned before, we mustn't let issues of self-confidence overwhelm our zeal to make good choices. I recognize how hard this can be to live out in practice, but it nevertheless remains true. If people give you their love for a false reason, and you are uncomfortable with that, such that you feel unable to continue in the deception, then that is a character flaw: something to be repaired!

In life we are often faced with being unpopular. But, contrary to popular opinion, social validation will not make you complete. (I believe that was a quote in my list earlier in this topic.) If we submit our decision-making authority to our fear of being unpopular, we surrender our identity to the void. Do not do it!


Have you ever seen Fawlty Towers? It makes me think of that. Allowing the untruth to grow like that only makes the fall harder and harder in the end. It may never come in our lifetime, if we're damned lucky, but when the truth is revealed...there'll be a harsh reaction, and the closest colleagues or descendents of this person will suffer.

Try going through a lie being discovered. Have you ever? Doesn't it feel like the pleasure during the lie wasn't worth it? If not, then I suppose you are "stronger than I am", as you say. But I don't find honesty a character flaw.
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Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 09, 2006, 10:33:21 pm
Quote from: Lord J esq
I do not blame you for being naïve to the pragmatic depth of our world. To truly embrace such an understanding without becoming a cynic requires a Machiavellian audacity that would overwhelm most people's integrity. Not to imply that such a fate would befall you--you're one of the most respectable people on the whole Compendium--but that perhaps it is a mountain steep enough that you do not wish to climb it, or have never even thought to look high enough to see its rewarding peak.


The way you word this implies to me that you do not understand or do not wish to acknowledge that I am not speaking from abstract, romanticized notions, but rather, my own life experience. It also seems from your statements that the "reward" you have achieved through your Machiavellian audacity is simply a sated ego.

Quote from: Lord J esq
Let me put it in words you already know, so that I am not telling you anything new, but merely repeating wisdom that is already your own: Life is not a fairytale. We do not all live happily ever after. Justice is seldom served. People are cunning, and passionate, and this puts them into conflict with one another regardless of their intentions. There is no such thing as good behavior, for the term implies that a behavior can be judged outside of its context, and this is an absurdity that few people bother to appreciate. Instead, I offer the real truth: We can only act in accordance with our convictions, or against them.


Extreme moral relativism. Remember that, it'll come back up soon.

Quote from: Lord J esq
This places the emphasis on becoming creatures of good character. If random acts of "good behavior" are no longer our moral god, then we must turn to the more difficult work of evaluating our motives. Suddenly we are revealed to live in a world where ends and means are indistinguishable. We see that life has no chapter breaks, no punctuations. The story continues on. And therefore if we are going to be sincere in our passions, and humble in our capacity for ignorance, then we must act in our own interest with the confidence of knowing that we are acting true to ourselves. So goes the continuation of life as we know it.


By ignoring the difference between ends and means, you abolish the concept of justice. In this world view, there is no right, no wrong, just success and failure. One and zero. It's a short-sighted way to live, and like all short-sighted mindsets, ultimately foolish and self-destructive. Without any need to consider anything outside of how you want to achieve your goals, you leave a trail of burnt bridges behind you; bridges you may find yourself needing to cross in the future.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "humble in our capacity for ignorance", please clarify. If you are suggesting that humility is a noble goal, that seems incosistent with your goal of receiving dishonest affection and admiration.

Quote from: Lord J esq
With that logical framework in place, it is simply a matter of looking at the dilemma and choosing the better alternative. To the extent that our convictions are noble, we must always seek to empower ourselves. And to the extent that our species is noble, we still must always seek to empower ourselves, counting on humanity's innate goodness--its penchant for discovery, for imagination, its indomitable drive--to overwhelm the corruption of those whose intentions are not noble after all. This is manifest in everything from the rule of law to the common courtesies.


Noble convictions? How can you have noble convictions, noble anything in your framework? There is no notion of morality, of justice, of anything but effective and ineffective. You cannot refer to your intentions as noble, as nobility is the quality of a high moral character. You then ask us to rely on man's innate goodness; but you offer no proof that man kind is intrinsically good, least of all in a frame work that has no goodness. At this point you might say, "Ah, but RD, I said that there is no such thing as a good act, I made no mention of good people!" to which I respond that when you combined ends and means, you obliterated the difference between a good act and a person who performs those good acts, and therefore neither exists in your framework.

Quote from: Lord J esq
Which, then, is the more empowering? I say that to gain the favor and trust and love and respect of others is surely superior to the alternative, which invites their ire and suspicion and hatred and contempt. There are certainly exceptions where the latter is preferable, but the general rule seems almost painfully obvious: If we are made to choose between these two extremes--as the original quote under discussion indeed compelled us to do--we must choose people's love.


In your frame work, in which there is no such thing as right or wrong, then yes, it is better to be loved dishonestly than hated honestly. But your framework is not internally consistent; and therefore not of use.

In a surprising way, it hardly matters if that love is well-founded or not.

Quote from: Lord J esq
Someone might say that ill-gotten love is going to collapse in on itself like a house of cards--indeed, that is one of the two main objections that you and others have raised thus far. But I say this is an extraneous factor in the equation. If choosing people's love over their hate is amended with the condition that this love, simply by its virtue of being misguided, is doomed to fail, then there is no dilemma after all: On one hand we have people's contempt, and on the other hand we have the same. But if the love is sustainable, then we should choose it, and maintain it as necessary.


To say that it is an amednment is a mischaractirization. If I gave you a block of ice, it would not be an amendment to say that if you let it reach temperatures greater than 32 degrees Farenheit, it will melt. No, it is not an adendum, it is a property. Love relies on honesty. Love without honesty is like ice in an oven: Sooner or later, it will melt away.

Quote from: Lord J esq
Indeed, Radical_Dreamer, the case you are proposing is less interesting than the case I am proposing. Supposing that this love can be extended indefinitely, that it will not fail simply because it is misguided, then perhaps you can better understand my position. Garnering the love of the people is just a tactic. It serves us. It serves us individually. It serves us all.


The case I am proposing is the practical reality of the matter. For people who want a personal relationship with other people of any sort, basically, for everyone but politicians, dishonest love cannot be extended indefinately. It is beneficial to keep the illusion going for politicians, becaus e their goal in life is to use people for their own immediate, and often short sighted, personal gain.

Quote from: Lord J esq
Is this to the detriment of those who give you their love? That depends on who you are. But I like to think, opposite the Christians, that ours is not quite so miserable a species, and that we continue to grow over time. And I tell you this, in absolute frankness: It is this very mechanism which I have described, that allows leaders to lead. If ordinary people understood that their leaders were answerable to the pragmatic concerns of the real world, rather than ideology alone, they would the lot of them be up in arms.

=)


You don't back up your opinion there. You simply state that you like to think that your actions, your using people for your own selfish purposes, with no regard for the effect on the people you are using, doesn't hurt others them. I do not disagree that your mechanism allows leaders to lead. But I do not consider politians to be good people, I do not consider them to be morally consistent, or acting in the benefit of myself or any of their constituents. Politians, and governments are simply a neccisary evil, made neccisary because of people who do not care about the consequences of their actions; politicans among them. You describe a framework that is very helpfull to the Karl Rove's of the world, for the short sighted and the self serving, but not for a sustainable society.

Quote from: Lord J esq
As I mentioned before, we mustn't let issues of self-confidence overwhelm our zeal to make good choices. I recognize how hard this can be to live out in practice, but it nevertheless remains true. If people give you their love for a false reason, and you are uncomfortable with that, such that you feel unable to continue in the deception, then that is a character flaw: something to be repaired!


This harkens back to the first paragraph; your implied goal of a sated ego. Certainly, your framework will acheive that goal, but it is hardly the noble goal you try to make it out to be. What you are asking Mystik to live out in practice is to boost his own ego off of the humility of the ignorance of others. Confidence is not a zero-sum game; if I am arrogant, that doesn't prevent others from being confident, or even arrogant as well. I find it incredibly unsetteling that you consider honesty to be a character flaw. As I mentioned earlier, people hold you up to their conception of you. If you are not a man of your word, if you are dishonest, when that comes to light, you'll find that that love you need to serve your goals will be hard, if not impossible to come by. See? That short sightedness comes back to bite you, snatching away your goals just as you are about to reach them.

Quote from: Lord J esq
In life we are often faced with being unpopular. But, contrary to popular opinion, social validation will not make you complete. (I believe that was a quote in my list earlier in this topic.) If we submit our decision-making authority to our fear of being unpopular, we surrender our identity to the void. Do not do it!


You say social validation will not make you complete, yet is that not the very position you have advocated in this thread? Your need for love, honest or no, is simply a form of social validation, a dishonest and desperate bid for unsustainable ego inflation. You spend this entire post trying to explain why it is a noble goal to achieve popularity, and then at the end acknowledge that to do so is unfullfilling. Not very consistent.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 10, 2006, 08:43:55 pm
I went back into my stash, and I found a few of a certain person...  Josh should get a kick out of these:

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Being stuck is a position few of us like. We want something new but cannot let go of the old - old ideas, beliefs, habits, even thoughts. We are out of contact with our own genius. Sometimes we know we are stuck; sometimes we don't. In both cases we have to DO something.

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You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one.

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Compassion is no substitute for justice.

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If Thomas Jefferson thought taxation without representation was bad, he should see how it is with representation.

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No nation ever taxed itself into prosperity.

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The last thing they want is a revitalized economy now. I'm not saying the Democrats don't want a strong economy. Don't misunderstand. They just don't want it now.


Quotes from Rush Limbaugh.  And everyone loves Rush.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 13, 2006, 12:15:46 am
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Love relies on honesty. Love without honesty is like ice in an oven: Sooner or later, it will melt away.

I suppose this is the crux of your argument, yes? Aside from some rather strange deviations onto the subject of moral relativism, most of what you say can be boiled down to this pithy idea: that honesty is a necessary prerequisite for sincere and persisting love.

Do you believe that to be true? Maybe you think you do, but let's try and falsify it instead. That's the scientific way. What if I told you there are people in the world who believe in lies, people whose love, no matter how sincere, is misguided? What if some people lived their whole lives believing in things that are not true, loving their perception of something more than the something itself? Do you dispute that such people exist? I leave it to you to answer, but there is only one answer.

Your argument is impressively tall, but insufficiently deep. It will fall over...and all those tall towers will look rather silly lying on the ground.

I cannot believe that you and I are truly in disagreement. It simply must be some failure on my part to convey my idea effectively. Boil it all down, and the crux of my position has been that, all else being equal, it is better to be loved than hated. You'll get further with people's support. It feeds on itself, even! How many times have you dismissed the beliefs of strangers, only to listen intently when someone you admire espouses that very same belief? Your friend benefits from your built-in respect by receiving a favorable hearing.

Most of the people who have disagreed with that--with me--have said either that love cannot exist without the object of the love being what the love-giver perceives it to be, or that it is too emotionally uncomfortable to maintain such a charade. But the former argument is a phoney, and the latter is irrelevant.

It isn't folly to admit the truth. The human condition is riddled with imperfections. Here is one of them. Even though honesty is the "best" policy, it is not always the most practical one. Playing people's ignorance by exploiting their love may sound like something Darth Vader would do, but in the end it's just a tactic...another move on the chessboard, toward achieving one's ultimate ambitions.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 13, 2006, 12:33:47 am
And some more:
Some from Rush...
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“The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down”

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“Bigot-A person who wins an argument with a liberal”


And now some from Neil Bortz, and a Libertarian talk-radio host from Atlanta.
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“Greed: A word commonly used by liberals, low achievers, anti-capitalists and society's losers to denigrate, shame and discredit those who have acquired superior job skills and decision-making capabilities and who, through the application of those job”

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“If it is wrong for you to take money from someone else who earned it, to take their money by force for your own needs, then it is certainly just as wrong for you to demand that the government step forward and do this dirty work for you.”

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“The key to accepting responsibility for your life is to accept the fact that your choices, every one of them, are leading you inexorably to either success or failure, however you define those terms.”
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Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 13, 2006, 01:39:22 am
Quote from: Lord J esq
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Love relies on honesty. Love without honesty is like ice in an oven: Sooner or later, it will melt away.

I suppose this is the crux of your argument, yes? Aside from some rather strange deviations onto the subject of moral relativism, most of what you say can be boiled down to this pithy idea: that honesty is a necessary prerequisite for sincere and persisting love.


The reason I spoke about moral relativism was because it was directly relelvant. I was attempting to show that your logical frame work was internally incosistent. Should I assume that you are not dismissing this claim? Because that is a fundamental flaw with your argument. If you present a framework that is not internally consistent, then it's of no use. You wouldn't buy a car that would only start half the time, would you?

Quote from: Lord J esq
Do you believe that to be true? Maybe you think you do, but let's try and falsify it instead. That's the scientific way. What if I told you there are people in the world who believe in lies, people whose love, no matter how sincere, is misguided? What if some people lived their whole lives believing in things that are not true, loving their perception of something more than the something itself? Do you dispute that such people exist? I leave it to you to answer, but there is only one answer.


I do not dispute that such people exist. That was never a point of contention. There are a great many people who believe in lies, and have a sincere, misguided love as a result. I am saying that it is better that they not be misguided. I am saying that knowledge is better than ignornace. Do you disagree with that assertion? If so, why do you bother with science?

Quote from: Lord J esq
Your argument is impressively tall, but insufficiently deep. It will fall over...and all those tall towers will look rather silly lying on the ground.


I had only a few key points:

1) Your goal (with the framework) is to sate your own ego to the fullest degree possible

2) The framework you provide is not internally consistent

3) Being honest, in general, is a better practical policy than being dishonest

By all means, address any of these points you disagree with.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Mystik3eb on January 13, 2006, 02:08:05 am
Quote from: Lord J esq
Most of the people who have disagreed with that--with me--have said either that love cannot exist without the object of the love being what the love-giver perceives it to be, or that it is too emotionally uncomfortable to maintain such a charade. But the former argument is a phoney, and the latter is irrelevant.


I still have yet to be shown why guilt is irrelevant. Irrelevant to what? Or who, should I say? Those who wish to ignore honesty and exploit people by treating them as stepping stones to achieve some height of worth, which is actually defined by the support of such people you wish to exploit? Or those who wish to create genuine friendships and acquaintences with the people in this world, with this inexpliacble feature inside us called emotions, and not exploit their support...but truly earn it?

This time, Josh, I'm actually agreeing that you're not being consistent. You should address those issues before continuing your argument, or the thorn will only dig deeper into your argument. Just a friendly warning. I do enjoy reading your posts, still. I laughed after reading "flower power" in the other post.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 13, 2006, 03:47:08 am
"Inconsistent"?! Ugh, you're really going to make me go through RD's entire post, eh? All right. Gimme a few days. It took me all week just to find time to make the rounds here tonight.

*mutters*

I was ever so close to simply conceding the argument on grounds of diminishing returns. But I suppose RD deserves a fuller reply if he wants to force the issue.

Where do the hours go? Midnight already, I'm dead tired, I have to get up early, and--whoosh!--there goes another minute.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 13, 2006, 11:10:20 pm
Josh, I think part of the problem is that you and I are looking at the issue in different terms, with different parameters of success, and we haven't defined them well. Respond how you want, when you want (I believe you have my screen name) but I do want a bit more perspective on where you're coming from.

But back on topic.

Quote from: Lt. Edward Hammond
I killed the child molester. He won't touch any more kids.


I bring this quote up because I think it brings up an interesting issue. Hammond is a convict, who learned that a convict child molester in his jail wanted to work with kids upon his release. So he killed the chimo.

Now he's being charged with murder. He's going to try to use an insanity defense (a previous attempt at this failed; and now he's in jail) but I don't know.

On the one hand, we can't let people going around murdering people willy-nilly, but on the other hand, there is one less child molester in the world, and that's never a bad thing. Do the ends justify the means? And is it sending the wrong message if we do or do not convict Hammond of murder?
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Mystik3eb on January 14, 2006, 02:42:09 am
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
On the one hand, we can't let people going around murdering people willy-nilly, but on the other hand, there is one less child molester in the world, and that's never a bad thing. Do the ends justify the means? And is it sending the wrong message if we do or do not convict Hammond of murder?


Boondock Saints, man. What a fantastic movie. I'm all for having gang members, mafia, and murderers killed, especially by a kick-ass Irish twin-team.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Tonjevic on January 14, 2006, 07:56:41 am
How can we say that it is a good thing that a previous child molester is murdered?
How can we say that he hadnt re-habilitated for sure?
While alot of these kinds of people are rather pathological, and thier behaviour is not easily changed, how do we know that during thier jail time they didnt have a good, long think about where they are going and what they are doing, and decide to play it straight?

Killing a fellow human, whatever his/her lot in life has been up to that point is, in my opinion, unforgivable (unless in defense of self or friends). Hammond is a muderer now, nothing can change that, whatever his rationalle. He killed someone who he did not know would go back to his old ways, maybe the molester just wanted to make it up to society, in the place he thought it most appropriate. I'm not saying he did, but there is always the possibility. These kinds of people are monitered after a jail sentence, and if he were to re-offend, that would be it for him. leave him be I say, until he does offend there is no sure way to tell whether he is a nice, cuddly fellow, or a being of pure malice who's only intent is to kill and rape.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Exodus on January 14, 2006, 02:03:48 pm
Will you two please shut the hell up?
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: GrayLensman on January 14, 2006, 04:10:04 pm
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
On the one hand, we can't let people going around murdering people willy-nilly, but on the other hand, there is one less child molester in the world, and that's never a bad thing. Do the ends justify the means? And is it sending the wrong message if we do or do not convict Hammond of murder?


Vigilantism is the antithesis of civilized society.  No one should have the choice of life or death over a person.  The rule of law is what protects us from the lynch-mob.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 14, 2006, 05:26:14 pm
Quote from: GrayLensman
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
On the one hand, we can't let people going around murdering people willy-nilly, but on the other hand, there is one less child molester in the world, and that's never a bad thing. Do the ends justify the means? And is it sending the wrong message if we do or do not convict Hammond of murder?


Vigilantism is the antithesis of civilized society.  No one should have the choice of life or death over a person.  The rule of law is what protects us from the lynch-mob.


This is true. But that begs the question, what is more important, law or justice? They try to bring them in line as much as possible, but no matter how optimistic you are on the situation, you must admit that it is not 1:1. The system fails. Should people accept these failures? If I knew someone was going to murder again, absolutely knew it, but that the law would fail to convict them, would it be wrong of me to intervene, simply because I would be doing so outside of the law?

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How can we say that it is a good thing that a previous child molester is murdered?


I didn't. I said that it was good that there was one less child molester in the world. I think most people would agree that the world would be a better place if there were no child molesters in it. The question then is, did the ends justify the means? I am asking what you assumed I stated.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Leebot on January 14, 2006, 09:40:30 pm
Quote from: GrayLensman
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
On the one hand, we can't let people going around murdering people willy-nilly, but on the other hand, there is one less child molester in the world, and that's never a bad thing. Do the ends justify the means? And is it sending the wrong message if we do or do not convict Hammond of murder?


Vigilantism is the antithesis of civilized society.  No one should have the choice of life or death over a person.  The rule of law is what protects us from the lynch-mob.


Ah, here we come to a very interesting subject: Vigilanteism.

Now, on one side of the problem, we have "lynch-mobs" and other such vigilantes exercising their own version of law which is arguably immoral. In this case, there's little question as to this being a bad thing.

But on the other side, we have vigilantes who pick up the slack where the normal legal system fails. RD made a good comment on why this sometimes isn't immoral. But the problem with this case is that it's a symptom of another problem in society, so the fact of its existence is still bad.

Now, one last instance: What about cases where the problem is that the legal system can't act fast enough? It's a fact that in many cases the legal system doesn't actively prevent crimes; they punish them and hope this will discourage future crimes.

Given this, we know that it is legal to kill in self-defense, and often in the defense of another. Also, if someone invades your property, it's legal to use otherwise-criminal force to stop them from whatever they're doing. With this in mind, I must ask: Isn't this vigilanteism as well?
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 14, 2006, 10:21:22 pm
If the law says you can use lethal force to defend yourself, family, or property, and you use lethal force to do so, then no, its not vigilanteism.  It would only be so if the law didn't allow it.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on January 14, 2006, 10:54:43 pm
Quote from: GrayLensman
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
On the one hand, we can't let people going around murdering people willy-nilly, but on the other hand, there is one less child molester in the world, and that's never a bad thing. Do the ends justify the means? And is it sending the wrong message if we do or do not convict Hammond of murder?


Vigilantism is the antithesis of civilized society.  No one should have the choice of life or death over a person.  The rule of law is what protects us from the lynch-mob.


Interesting point. I'm just going to respond impartially here, not out of opinion but just regarding another's on the matter. Has anyone ever read the Oresteia by the Greek Tragedian Aeschylus? It considers that very matter. In the first part, the lord Agamemnon is murdered by his wife and her lover when he returns home - as she says, judgement and vengeance because he had sacrificed their daughter Iphigenia so that the fleet could depart for Troy. Her lover, Agamemnon's cousin, is acting on an old family fued, for the respective fathers of the two were bitter foes. The cousin's, Thyestes, seduces the wife of Agamemnon's father Atreus. Atreus served his brother Thyestes' children in a banquet. Not a pleasant family. In the second book, the Libation Bearers, the son of Agamemnon, Orestes, returns and avenges his father by killing his mother and her lover. He is then, however, hounded and driven mad by her Furies, for he has slain kindred blood.
The point of it is to show that blood in vengeance begets yet more blood, and each new killer seeks to justify their deeds through vengeance.
Then it comes to the last of the trilogy, which is The Eumenedies. Orestes come to Athens, and appeals to Athena to save him from the Furies. But to vindicate him is not for her alone she says. She, however, calls an assembly of the elders of Athens, and they judge the matter. Apollo is Orestes' defender; the Furies his prosecuters. Athena is the judge, but when the vote is split, she rules for Orestes. He is vindicated by the first court. The idea (well, one of the themes), is that vengeance is a continuing cycle of bloodshed. But what ends it? The court of Law. The gods of order and civilized justice (Athena) over the old ones of vengeance (the Furies). It's an interesting and very deep analysis on the matter. I would recommend any to read it, though it is rather difficult a read.
I just thought it was pertinent to the topic. I'm not stating my opinion on the matter, but thought this would be rather interesting.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 15, 2006, 12:20:45 am
Quote from: TR
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.


Boy, can I agree with this one.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Leebot on January 15, 2006, 11:48:26 am
Quote from: Sentenal
If the law says you can use lethal force to defend yourself, family, or property, and you use lethal force to do so, then no, its not vigilanteism.  It would only be so if the law didn't allow it.


The definition isn't quite that simple. Look up the story of Bernhard Goetz. Four men attempted to mug him, and he shot them all (none died, though one was paralyzed for life). Even though the law technically covers his actions, and he was cleared of any charges, he's still brought up as a prime example of a vigilante--in this case possibly a bad one, given the extreme separation between his actions and those of the muggers.

As another example, take the Guardian Angels of New York City. Their goal (when founded, at least) was to patrol dangerous stretches of subway in order to prevent muggings. (The police were too busy with numerous other crimes.) This here is precisely the definition of vigilantes; citizens taking the law into their own hands. Now, in this case, their motives are unquestionably good, and their methods are legal. But they're vigilantes nonetheless. (Note that they've sinced changed and expanded their mandate. Go to http://www.guardianangels.org/history.html for more info)

Finally, here's something for thought: Name a superhero. Chances are, he's a vigilante. Even Superman, arguably the tamest and most respecting of the law, fits into this definition as he works to uphold the law when the normal system can't.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on January 15, 2006, 05:29:44 pm
Quote from: Leebot
Finally, here's something for thought: Name a superhero. Chances are, he's a vigilante. Even Superman, arguably the tamest and most respecting of the law, fits into this definition as he works to uphold the law when the normal system can't.


You bring up a good point with this. This is precisely, I think, what the new Batman movie attempted to address, what seperates the hero from the vigilante. I guess that is what made it so good: it doesn't just take the hero's deeds at face value as being well intentioned, but really strives to examine the more complex reasons of justice and punishment. What makes Batman different than a vigilante? That seems to have been the main focus of the movie, rather than simply getting the bad guys, and it was better for it.

I can't remember the exact quote, but what is it that Bruce Wayne says when he is told to execute the murderer while in Asia? He says something to the effect that he can't turn murderer to serve justice. Otherwise, he will be no better than those he seeks to fight against.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 15, 2006, 05:55:07 pm
Ra's Al Ghul accuses him of showing compassion I think, and then Wayne states that compassion is what separates the givers of justice from criminals.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 26, 2006, 09:50:40 pm
Update: The man who killed the pedophile has been convicted of murder. He's already serving a life sentance, so this, second life sentance is mostly symbolic. He told the jury that he had no hard feelings toward them.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Paradox on January 29, 2006, 01:40:02 am
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A ship is safe in harbor-- but that's not what ships are for.
-John A. Shedd


I love this one because it really connects with a forever true element of humanity. We love danger, we love adventure, we craft and build and create souly to throw ourselves into the unknown.



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Buddha was once threatened with death by a bandit called Angulimal. "Be good enough to fulfill my dying wish," said Buddha, "cut off the branch of that tree." One slash of the sword and it was done! "What now?" asked the bandit. "Put it back again," said Buddha. The bandit laughed. "You must be crazy to think that anyone could do that." "On the contrary," replied Buddha,"it is you who are crazy to think that you are mighty because you can wound and destroy. That is the task of children. The mighty know how to create and heal."

-from "The Heart of the Enlightened"
by Anthony De Mello


Love this one too, though it's more of a passage then a quote. Sorry.

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You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, "Why not?"
   
-George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)


Last one I like. On with the show!
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 29, 2006, 04:16:58 am
Quote from: Paradox
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You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, "Why not?"
   
-George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)


Last one I like. On with the show!


I never get tired of reading that one. How inspirational, and how beautiful a way to look at the world.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on January 29, 2006, 05:56:35 am
1. Even though I don't agree with the child-molestor-killing-dude, I just wonder how you would feel if your child had been violated, scarred emotionally and physically.
2. Being hated for who you are ain't that bad, as long as what it is is deemed bad by your morals or you societies morals (though being hated it bad anyways). Being loved for who you are not is horrible (I have felt it) and being hated for who you are not is extremely horrible (ditto). Being loved for who you are not is the greatest worldly feeling possible.
3. I'll get back to you once I read the whole thread.

Now for some quotes:
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1. (Sentenal will get a kick out of this): "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed!  Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.  From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."   (Luk.12:49-53) "Jesus"

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2. "You should show courtesy and be cordial with each other, so that nobody should consider himself superior to another nor do him harm." Muhammad

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3. "What is the best type of Jihad [struggle]?" He answered: "Speaking truth before a tyrannical ruler." Muhammad

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4. "Happy is the man who avoids dissension, but how fine is the man who is afflicted and shows endurance." Muhammad

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5. "Even as the fingers of the two hands are equal, so are human beings equal to one another. No one has any right, nor any preference to claim over another. You are brothers." Muhammad

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6. “The most excellent jihad (struggle) is that for the conquest of self”. Muhammad

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7. “He is not strong and powerful who throweth people down; but he is strong who witholdeth himself from anger” Muhammad

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8. “Do not say, that if the people do good to us, we will do good to them; and if the people oppress us, we will oppress them; but determine that if people do you good, you will do good to them; and if they oppress you, you will not oppress them” Muhammad


I could go on...but one thing crazy Muslims should know...
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“Do not say, that if the people do good to us, we will do good to them; and if the people oppress us, we will oppress them; but determine that if people do you good, you will do good to them; and if they oppress you, you will not oppress them” Muhammad

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"Though one should conquer a thousand times a thousand men in battle, he who conquers his own self, is the greatest of all conquerers." Buddha


Oh, and Sentenal, The Holy Spirit is Gabriel and the word (as in, in the beginning there was the word, and the word was with god...) was the word god said to create Jesus, and the word is NOT god. Just venting, thats all...[/i]
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on January 30, 2006, 03:12:32 am
Quote from: Burning Zeppelin
Oh, and Sentenal, The Holy Spirit is Gabriel and the word (as in, in the beginning there was the word, and the word was with god...) was the word god said to create Jesus, and the word is NOT god. Just venting, thats all...[/i]


Actually, what John's getting at with that is a certain philisophical idea of the time where there was deemed to be a divinity called the Logos, 'Word', by the Greeks. It acted as a sort of messenger between god and man, or so the idea went if I remember right. John, in writing his gospel, was attempting to reach the people of the time who knew of this idea. Essentially, he's trying to say 'In the beginning was the Word', to which they all would say 'yes, we know that.' Likewise, 'The word was with God', and likewise they'd say it to be nothing new. But he's being radical in speaking of the Logos as being God in the last line 'and the Word WAS God' (or, literally, 'and God was the Word.') It's one of those things that would probably have made more sense to the listeners at the time than people these days.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on January 30, 2006, 04:53:11 am
But wasn't the Gospel meant to be the word of God? And why did Paul himself say that his version was actually HIS gospel? (ie pauls, not gods) And why was Paul such an ass as to destroy Moses law (Jesus himself said he came to confirm that of the Torah) and create the myth of the three day resseruction.
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Mr ET: I Pity the fool who doesn't phone home!
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 30, 2006, 09:01:31 pm
O RLY?

Okay, here we go, its fun time:
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1. (Sentenal will get a kick out of this): "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law." (Luk.12:49-53) "Jesus"

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Oh, and Sentenal, The Holy Spirit is Gabriel and the word (as in, in the beginning there was the word, and the word was with god...) was the word god said to create Jesus, and the word is NOT god. Just venting, thats all...[/i]

First on Luke 12:49-53.  First, on Jesus coming to bring fire to the earth.  Thats true.  Baptising the world in fire.  He was refering to this, said by John the Baptist:
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He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his barn, but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. (Luke 3:16-17)

As for bring division within a household, it is division from the unbelief of your family.  If you become a Christian, yet your father, mother, or whoever does not, that creates division.  In current days, entire households can be Christian, but it was not so in the dayso of Jesus.  If you became his follower, it would create division in your house.

Now, as for the Holy Spirit.  The Archangel Gabriel being the Holy Spirit is a construction of your Religion, not mine.  In my religion, the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God.  Things you believe about your religion has no bearing on mine.

About the "Word".  Lets look at John 1, shall we?
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

    Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

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The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Hmmm, I wonder who that could be talking about...</sarcaism>

Well, since you got to quote my holy book, I might as well quote yours, you might get a kick out of it :)
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[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them (note: them=disbelievers), and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

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[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters (note: has been translated as pagans; non-muslims) wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

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[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates.

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[22.19] These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads.

Ahhh, the peaceful religion of Islam.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on January 30, 2006, 09:35:55 pm
It is worth noting the "find them..." part in 2 and 9 mean in war. Specifically 9 (Taubah) is the Surah talking about a broken treaty. And yes, don't most people kill each other in war? And hey, becoming a slave in an Islamic System is better then being dead.
I'll get back to you once I find that book...
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 30, 2006, 09:44:25 pm
Quote from: Burning Zeppelin
It is worth noting the "find them..." part in 2 and 9 mean in war. Specifically 9 (Taubah) is the Surah talking about a broken treaty. And yes, don't most people kill each other in war? And hey, becoming a slave in an Islamic System is better then being dead.
I'll get back to you once I find that book...

Yeah, I can see how killing people because of religion, or going to war because of religion, is a sane thing to do.  Just ask Josh, he loved it when Christians did it.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: GrayLensman on January 30, 2006, 10:17:12 pm
Quote from: Sentenal
Quote from: Burning Zeppelin
It is worth noting the "find them..." part in 2 and 9 mean in war. Specifically 9 (Taubah) is the Surah talking about a broken treaty. And yes, don't most people kill each other in war? And hey, becoming a slave in an Islamic System is better then being dead.
I'll get back to you once I find that book...

Yeah, I can see how killing people because of religion, or going to war because of religion, is a sane thing to do.  Just ask Josh, he loved it when Christians did it.


Please don't start a flame war.  This thread wasn't intended for heated religious discussion.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on January 30, 2006, 10:34:15 pm
Gray, you are right. But two things: Yes, when someone attacks you or persecutes you due to religion, you fight back for your religion.
Secondly,
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In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Say: O ye that reject Faith!

I worship not that which ye worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

To you be your Way, and to me mine. -God

Whatever. I stand back and lets just continue peacefully, only arguing when it comes to games.
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We must accept finite disappointment, but we must never lose infinite hope.
      --Martin Luther King
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 31, 2006, 12:02:56 am
Quote from: Sentenal
Quote from: Burning Zeppelin
It is worth noting the "find them..." part in 2 and 9 mean in war. Specifically 9 (Taubah) is the Surah talking about a broken treaty. And yes, don't most people kill each other in war? And hey, becoming a slave in an Islamic System is better then being dead.
I'll get back to you once I find that book...

Yeah, I can see how killing people because of religion, or going to war because of religion, is a sane thing to do.  Just ask Josh, he loved it when Christians did it.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but "love it" is not the phrase that comes to mind when I think of a cadre of blind Christian fanatics slaughtering the innocent and corrupting the fabric of societies all over the world for generations.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 31, 2006, 12:16:33 am
Quote from: Lord J esq
Quote from: Sentenal
Quote from: Burning Zeppelin
It is worth noting the "find them..." part in 2 and 9 mean in war. Specifically 9 (Taubah) is the Surah talking about a broken treaty. And yes, don't most people kill each other in war? And hey, becoming a slave in an Islamic System is better then being dead.
I'll get back to you once I find that book...

Yeah, I can see how killing people because of religion, or going to war because of religion, is a sane thing to do.  Just ask Josh, he loved it when Christians did it.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but "love it" is not the phrase that comes to mind when I think of a cadre of blind Christian fanatics slaughtering the innocent and corrupting the fabric of societies all over the world for generations.

I was being sarcastic.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 31, 2006, 12:45:17 am
Ah, well then! *decks you*
There's room for tough humor in our relationship after all. =)
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on January 31, 2006, 12:48:21 am
Ahem. On other news...
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“A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility.”

 Lawrence G. Lovasik

Wow. I really split the relationship of the forumites, haven't I?
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on January 31, 2006, 01:03:19 am
Quote from: Burning Zeppelin
Ahem. On other news...
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“A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility.”

 Lawrence G. Lovasik

Wow. I really split the relationship of the forumites, haven't I?

I only get a superiority complex when I get comforable around a group of people :)
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Tonjevic on January 31, 2006, 01:27:27 am
Religion should be a set of guidelines for living, not a reason for war. Historically speaking, this has been abided by. People dont go to war because the other people dont believe in thier religion: in the past, and even in the present climate, leaders had other agendas (money, friends, whatever) and to facilitate and legitimise that, they came up with an excuse: THOSE PEOPLE ARE BLASPHEMERS! KILL THEM!

Not all THAT relevant to the discussion, but a nugget I thought I would just insert.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on January 31, 2006, 01:45:31 am
That's the thing. Palestine isn't fighting Israel for religion. I was then thinking-hang on, then why are they fighting? They aren't fighting FOR religion, they are fighting WITH religion. If someone takes your home, fight back! (Someone was telling me this. I think it was Sentenal) A martyr isn't only someone who dies during Jihad, it is also a woman that dies during childbirth (though that doesn't mean if you have the chance to live you shouldn't take that option, as the mother is the main carer of the child), a person who drowns, and a person who dies protecting their wealth, family or house. The problem is, the same thing applies to Israel.
Anyways, if it wasn't the Arabs who took over Jeruselam long ago, it would've been the Egyptians, Christians or Ethiopians.
Plus, lets stop with Palestine (since we have Hamas and the ol' Land Rights Debate) and Christianity (a split may be in progress)

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“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
— Mark Twain
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on January 31, 2006, 02:05:31 am
I know I'm double posting, but...
Quote from: Napoleon Bonaparte
A celebrated people lose dignity upon a closer view.

A Constitution should be short and obscure.

A leader is a dealer in hope.

A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

A revolution can be neither made nor stopped. The only thing that can be done is for one of several of its children to give it a direction by dint of victories.

A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.

A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.

A throne is only a bench covered with velvet.

A true man hates no one.

Ability is nothing without opportunity.

Ambition never is in a greater hurry that I; it merely keeps pace with circumstances and with my general way of thinking.


An army marches on its stomach.

Courage is like love; it must have hope for nourishment.

Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.

Doctors will have more lives to answer for in the next world than even we generals.

England is a nation of shopkeepers.

Every soldier carries a marshall's baton in his pack.

Few things are brought to a sucessful issue by impetuous desire, but most by calm and prudent forethought.

Forethought we may have, undoubtedly, but not foresight.

Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets.

From the heights of these pyramids, forty centuries look down on us.

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.

Great ambition is the passion of a great character. Those endowed with it may perform very good or very bad acts. All depends on the principals which direct them.

He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat.

He who knows how to flatter also knows how to slander.

History is a set of lies agreed upon.

History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon.

I am sometimes a fox and sometimes a lion. The whole secret of government lies in knowing when to be the one or the other.

I can no longer obey; I have tasted command, and I cannot give it up.

I have only one counsel for you - be master.

I love power. But it is as an artist that I love it. I love it as a musician loves his violin, to draw out its sounds and chords and harmonies.

I made all my generals out of mud.

If I always appear prepared, it is because before entering an undertaking, I have meditated long and have foreseen what might occur. It is not genius where reveals to me suddenly and secretly what I should do in circumstances unexpected by others; it is thought and preparation.

If I had to choose a religion, the sun as the universal giver of life would be my god.

If they want peace, nations should avoid the pin-pricks that precede cannon shots.

If you start to take Vienna - take Vienna.

If you want a thing done well, do it yourself.

If you wish to be a success in the world, promise everything, deliver nothing.

Imagination rules the world.

Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools.

In order to govern, the question is not to follow out a more or less valid theory but to build with whatever materials are at hand. The inevitable must be accepted and turned to advantage.

In politics stupidity is not a handicap.

It is the cause, not the death, that makes the martyr.

It requires more courage to suffer than to die.

Let France have good mothers, and she will have good sons.

Let the path be open to talent.

Medicines are only fit for old people.

Men are more easily governed through their vices than through their virtues.

Men are Moved by two levers only: fear and self interest.

Men take only their needs into consideration - never their abilities.

Music of all the arts has the most influence on the passions and the legislator should give it the greatest encouragement.

Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

Nothing is more difficult, and therefore more precious, than to be able to decide.

One must change one's tactics every ten years if one wishes to maintain one's superiority.

One should never forbid what one lacks the power to prevent.

Power is my mistress. I have worked too hard at her conquest to allow anyone to take her away from me.

Public opinion is the thermometer a monarch should constantly consult.

Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.

Respect the burden.

Riches do not consist in the possession of treasures, but in the use made of them.

Skepticism is a virtue in history as well as in philosophy.

Ten people who speak make more noise than ten thousand who are silent.

The act of policing is, in order to punish less often, to punish more severely.


The battlefield is a scene of constant chaos. The winner will be the one who controls that chaos, both his own and the enemies.

The best cure for the body is a quiet mind.

The best way to keep one's word is not to give it.

The extent of your consciousness is limited only by your ability to love and to embrace with your love the space around you, and all it contains.

The first virtue in a soldier is endurance of fatigue; courage is only the second virtue.

The French complain of everything, and always.

The great proof of madness is the disproportion of one's designs to one's means.

The herd seek out the great, not for their sake but for their influence; and the great welcome them out of vanity or need.

The human race is governed by its imagination.

The infectiousness of crime is like that of the plague.

The people to fear are not those who disagree with you, but those who disagree with you and are too cowardly to let you know.

The strong man is the one who is able to intercept at will the communication between the senses and the mind.

The surest way to remain poor is to be an honest man.


The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. It is sometimes better to abandon one's self to destiny.

There are only two forces in the world, the sword and the spirit. In the long run the sword will always be conquered by the spirit.

There are only two forces that unite men - fear and interest.

There are two levers for moving men - interest and fear.

There is one kind of robber whom the law does not strike at, and who steals what is most precious to men: time.

There is only one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Vanity made the [French] Revolution; liberty was only a pretext.

Victory belongs to the most persevering.

War is the business of barbarians.

Water, air, and cleanness are the chief articles in my pharmacy.

We must laugh at man to avoid crying for him.

What is history but a fable agreed upon?

When I want any, good head work done; I always choose a man, if possible with a long nose.

When small men attempt great enterprises, they always end by reducing them to the level of their mediocrity.

With audacity one can undertake anything, but not do everything.

Women are nothing but machines for producing children.

You must not fear death, my lads; defy him, and you drive him into the enemy's ranks.

You must not fight too often with one enemy, or you will teach him all your art of war.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Tonjevic on January 31, 2006, 05:47:57 am
In other breaking news, the UN, the US  and other major aid donaters giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Palestine in aid, have threatened to withdraw this aid if Palestine won't cease hostilities towards Israel and facilitate the roadmap to peace.

Predictably, the Palestinians have said that they wont disarm, even though thier new leader has begged the major doners to continue supplying aidto palestine, and promises that it will be spent in a transperant manner, going towards basic infrastructure.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on February 01, 2006, 04:47:48 am
Dude, why did you bring it up in the Quote Digest? I thought we agreed to break it off (hypocrisy shines)
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2006, 04:35:42 pm
Well I better save this thread before you guys kill it.  8)

Quote from: Frog AKA Glenn Pimptastic
Lower thine guard and thou'rt allowing the enemy in.


Such a simple yet intellegent thing to say. If you let your guard down your enemies will overtake you.

Quote from: Leon S. Kennedy
She's like a part of me I can't let go. Let's leave it at that.


This is a very insightful yet tragedic take on ones own struggles with the opposite sex. Even though Leon knows he can't have Ada, she is still a very important part of Leon's life/personality. It's a very noble way of accepting his fate.

Quote from: May Parker
I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams.


I don't think I need to really say anything about this line. It speaks for itself.

Quote from: Ben Parker
With great power comes great responsibility.


These Parkers really dish out the money quotes don't they? This is somethign that I think most politicionas seem to forget on thier rise to the top. Everyone can learn from this, it is very insightful.

Quote from: Glen Bateman
Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home.


For those unfamiliar this is from Stephen King's novel The Stand. It makes you realize how predictable human nature truly is in terms of social settings. No matter how many times you start over, you'll always end up in the same predicament.


More to come...
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: SilentMartyr on February 01, 2006, 04:37:00 pm
Twas I who made this post.

Quote from: Anonymous
Well I better save this thread before you guys kill it.  8)

Quote from: Frog AKA Glenn Pimptastic
Lower thine guard and thou'rt allowing the enemy in.


Such a simple yet intellegent thing to say. If you let your guard down your enemies will overtake you.

Quote from: Leon S. Kennedy
She's like a part of me I can't let go. Let's leave it at that.


This is a very insightful yet tragedic take on ones own struggles with the opposite sex. Even though Leon knows he can't have Ada, she is still a very important part of Leon's life/personality. It's a very noble way of accepting his fate.

Quote from: May Parker
I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams.


I don't think I need to really say anything about this line. It speaks for itself.

Quote from: Ben Parker
With great power comes great responsibility.


These Parkers really dish out the money quotes don't they? This is somethign that I think most politicionas seem to forget on thier rise to the top. Everyone can learn from this, it is very insightful.

Quote from: Glen Bateman
Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home.


For those unfamiliar this is from Stephen King's novel The Stand. It makes you realize how predictable human nature truly is in terms of social settings. No matter how many times you start over, you'll always end up in the same predicament.


More to come...
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Legend of the Past on February 01, 2006, 04:54:51 pm
So wait, Zeppelin, the Arabs are fighting us with a JIHAD to get out land, and you tell us NOT to bring religion into this?
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Leebot on February 01, 2006, 06:31:06 pm
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There are only three excuses you'll ever need:

1. It was like that when I got here.

2. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

3. I plead the Fifth.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on February 01, 2006, 11:21:12 pm
Quote from: Jean Valjean
Look down, Javert! He's standing in his grave! Give way, Javert! There is a life to save!


Quote from: Javert
Go now Valjean, before I change my mind. I will be waiting, 24601...


This is the brief interlude just before Javert's suicide in Les Miserables. It captures perfectly the moment that Javert understands the dichotomy between his worldview and Valjeans. To Valjean, life is of ultimate importance. To Javert, law and order are of ultimate importance.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Glensather Galanodel on February 02, 2006, 12:28:43 am
Quote from: The U.S. Navy
We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, that we are capable of doing anything with nothing.


A Navy quote about the fact that our military is unappreciated, no matter what. There will always be some people who hate the troops, and will do anything to see them without anything.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on February 02, 2006, 03:17:48 pm
Quote from: Glensather Galanodel
Quote from: The U.S. Navy
We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, that we are capable of doing anything with nothing.


A Navy quote about the fact that our military is unappreciated, no matter what. There will always be some people who hate the troops, and will do anything to see them without anything.

That's a bit unnerving, isn't it? I agree that the military's popularity among the general population waxes and wanes with the times, even as the need for our national defense remains constant, but it is unsettling to see elements in, of, or for our armed forces intimating not only a desire to make policy but a general feeling of entitlement. I can't believe this quote is merely a simple observation on behalf of the military's discipline and prowess. It smacks of martialism. Now, if I were the supreme admiral, sure. But generally we don't want the military as an institution, or its willing volunteers individually, to start talking like this.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 13, 2006, 01:47:40 pm
There's a weird song part of a French radio show called Nova. It seems to be some kind of acid hip hop; I've never discerned the author, but the quotation at the front is interesting.

Quote from: Unknown
I was sent up to space to see about an enemy that might destroy this country. And I can safely say that there is no enemy up there. But there is an enemy down here -- fear -- a fear to love, for a fear not being loved back; a fear to give, for a fear of not receiving; a fear to live, for a fear of dying -- this will never be a real land of the free, if we aren't brave enough not to be a afraid -- if we're not brave enough to be free.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Hadriel on February 14, 2006, 05:26:25 am
This post contains a list of situationally versatile quotes, used to elicit laughter in a tense situation, to tick people off, point out a critical flaw in some institution, entity, or plan of action, or any combination of the above.

Quote from: Aeris
Get cancer, please.


Quote from: Jack Landers, Bridge Carson, and Sky Tate
OHHH SNAPS!!!


Quote from: Leia Organa
You came in that thing?  You're braver than I thought.


Quote from: Little Billy
OMFG (insert something awesome here) R0XX()RZ T3H BIG ONE!111


Quote from: Elftor
...and then a dinosaur got loose and ate like fifty kids...


Quote from: The Internet
lolocaust


The following four are from A Lost Hope:

Quote from: Anakin Skywalker
It's right here, clear as purple crayon!


Quote from: Obi-Wan Kenobi
Well, you are quite the poo-poo head.


Quote from: Yoda
Warned you we tried.  Listen, you did not.  Now screwed we all will be!


Quote from: Darth Vader
A boobie?


~
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Mystik3eb on February 14, 2006, 05:53:09 am
THE DEATHTICLE!
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 14, 2006, 01:58:09 pm
You can determine the measure of a person by the opposition it takes to discourage him or her.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on February 14, 2006, 03:15:09 pm
Quote from: ZeaLitY
You can determine the measure of a person by the opposition it takes to discourage him or her.

Ah, yes. Well said. It's nice to see somebody echo my respect for the power of the sentient will. (Not to be mistaken with the obstinacy of closed-minded fools!)
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 14, 2006, 06:06:26 pm
Do you think there's a better way to phrase that without being sexist? The original quote simply uses "measure of a man" and "him, but "him or her" makes it a little unwieldy.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on February 14, 2006, 08:18:17 pm
The best of ALL

"I only drink because it's liquid. If it was solid, eat it I would."
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: GrayLensman on February 14, 2006, 10:59:14 pm
Quote from: ZeaLitY
Do you think there's a better way to phrase that without being sexist? The original quote simply uses "measure of a man" and "him, but "him or her" makes it a little unwieldy.


Use the original quote.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on February 15, 2006, 12:08:59 am
Quote from: GrayLensman
Quote from: ZeaLitY
Do you think there's a better way to phrase that without being sexist? The original quote simply uses "measure of a man" and "him, but "him or her" makes it a little unwieldy.


Use the original quote.


Agreed. In English, the masculine form is default, and given the context, it is obvious that it is meant in the universal sense.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on February 15, 2006, 04:59:29 am
We should all just speak ancient Greek. There, I think, the default is anthropôn which, though it is usually translated as 'man' (ie. anax anthropôn, lord of men) it is actually 'person' - anêr is man. But standard English seems to like 'man'.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Silvercry on February 15, 2006, 12:58:32 pm
I'm entirely too lazy to read the last five pages of posts right now, so here are some of my favorites:

Quote from: Unknown
One hundred years from now, it will not matter how big my house was, or the type of car I drove, or how much money was in my back account. But the world may be different because I was important in the life of a child.


Any parents or parents to be out there, take this quote and frame it over your child's crib.  Then live it.

Quote from: Yoda
Do, or do not.  There is no 'try'.


Too often have I seen people, when faced with an undesirable task, merely 'try' to complete it, fail, and shrug their shoulders and say 'oh well'.  In reality, they never truly desired to complete said task, and only attempted so that they can come back later and said "I tried that, but [blank]".  Thus, 'trying' something becomes an excuse for failing at it with a clear conscience.

Screw that.  Eliminate 'try' from you vocabulary.  Just do whatever task/job/mission/challenge etc that is placed before you.  Or if you’d rather take the easy way out, don't do it at all.  Either way, commit to a path.  Yes it is impossible to succeed at everything you do.  But there will be some result of your effort as a result of the work you put into said task.  It might not be the same result as your goal, but something was accomplished.  And that can always be built upon for next time.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on February 15, 2006, 03:58:06 pm
Quote from: ZeaLitY
Do you think there's a better way to phrase that without being sexist? The original quote simply uses "measure of a man" and "him, but "him or her" makes it a little unwieldy.

To the extent that you're quoting a quote, I agree with the others. Don't change the original. But to answer your question, I'd rephrase the whole darn thing, including the sexism. It's clunky. "Determine" and "measure" trip over each other, the point could be better made with a more direct phrasing than "you can," the preposition at the end is way longer than it needs to be, and of course the generic use of the masculine to include anybody is a sexist flaw in our language, as surely bigoted as if our pronouns somehow implied that the generic person is white or Christian, and ought to be rectified in this day and age. "Measure of a man" has a nice ring to it, but absolutely no redeeming quality in terms of content.

How would I word it? I don't want to be presumptuous. I would probably just reconstruct the sentence from scratch, rather than try to alter history. And, as Mark Twain pointed out, coming up with pithy little nothings on demand is actually quite a time-consuming project! =)

So I've got nothing for you this morning.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Leebot on February 17, 2006, 12:55:50 am
Quote from: Lord J Esq
...and ought to be rectified in this day and age.


You mean... change something? And, something about the English language at that? Heresy!

Seriously, most human beings are naturally opposed to change on principle. It could be a change purely for the better, but a lot of people will still be opposed to it (like how we're keeping Pluto a planet "for historical reasons," when we should either drop it or add UB313, but I digress). There are a ton of things in the English language alone that deserve to be changed (all the insane spelling is at the top of the list), but none of them will.

This actually reminds me of a little story I heard a while back. There was this one mountain, and its height had been recorded as such-and-such for a long time. Then, with more accurate measurements, they found that it was actually about 20 feet taller. So, what was done? Did they correct the records, and simply include the corrected figure in any new reference books printed? Nope, it was easier to simply pile 20 feet of concrete on top of the mountain so that those books would already be correct. This is not a joke (well... it is f***ing ridiculous, and hilarious, but true).
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Tonjevic on February 17, 2006, 03:23:31 am
Quote from: Leebot
This actually reminds me of a little story I heard a while back. There was this one mountain, and its height had been recorded as such-and-such for a long time. Then, with more accurate measurements, they found that it was actually about 20 feet taller. So, what was done? Did they correct the records, and simply include the corrected figure in any new reference books printed? Nope, it was easier to simply pile 20 feet of concrete on top of the mountain so that those books would already be correct. This is not a joke (well... it is f***ing ridiculous, and hilarious, but true).


Wait.. what?
The mountain was taller than previously thought, therefor they put concrete on the top to re-affirm to old texts?
Wouldn't they chop the top off?
Or do you mean to say that the mountain was found to be shorter?
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Leebot on February 17, 2006, 03:06:53 pm
Er, yeah, my mistake. The mountain was found to be shorter.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 21, 2006, 06:23:02 pm
Quote from: Calvin Coolidge
Press on. Nothing in th world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education alone will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Ramsus on February 21, 2006, 10:54:00 pm
Quote from: George Patton

Don't tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on February 21, 2006, 11:06:46 pm
Patton, huh? Quotable fellow. Think I'll contribute a few.

Quote from: George Patton
   It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Sentenal on February 21, 2006, 11:12:32 pm
Quote from: Ramsus
Considering the effort required, I'd rather spend my time getting wasted and hitting on married women, or at least finding some way to make money that doesn't involve getting a job.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Ramsus on February 22, 2006, 12:30:56 am
My Journalism professor discussing wordiness to a class of about 300:
Quote

...And quite frankly, most of them [the faculty] have diarrhea of the mouth.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on March 12, 2006, 09:37:50 pm
I know this is reviving a little bit, but I found a quote I like ever so much in Seneca just today:

Quote
Of all people only those are at leisure who make time for philosophy, only those are really alive. For they not only keep a good watch over their own lifetimes, but they annex every age in theirs. All the years that have passed before them are added to their own. Unless we are very ungrateful, all those distinguished founders of holy creeds were born for us and prepared for us a way of life. By the toil of others we are led into the presence of things which have been brought from darkness into light. We are excluded from no age, but we have access to them all; and if we are prepared in loftiness of mind to pass beyond the narrow confines of human weakness, there is a long period of time though which we can roam. We can argue with Socrates, express doubt with Carneades, cultivae retirement with Epicurus, overcome human nature with the Stoics, and exceed its limits with the Cynics. Since nature allows us to enter into a partnership with every age, why not turn from this bief and transient spell of time and give ourselves wholeheartedly to the past, which is limitless and eternal and can be shared with better men than we?


A very difficult ideal to achieve, but a good one to aspire to nonetheless.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on March 14, 2006, 01:54:17 am
In the spirit of South Dakota...

Quote from: H.L. Mencken
It is now quite lawful for a Catholic woman to avoid pregnancy by a resort to mathematics, though she is still forbidden to resort to physics or chemistry.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: FAILURE on March 22, 2006, 06:22:48 pm
Courage is not an absence of fear; it is action in the face of fear. ~ Anonymous
 
     Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear. ~ Ambrose Redmoon


Dear friends,
     These are the contributions that I have for this thread.  Please forgive me for using this opportunity to enlighten you to other works which may well appeal to those of us who have been attracted to the essential story of Square's Chronotrigger.  I hope you enjoy them as much as I have.
   
     First and foremost, Terry Gilliam's masterpiece Twelve Monkeys.
It is closest to story-telling perfection.  Please see it.
     Alias, by J. J. Abrams.  Anyone interested by the fictional exploits of Balthazar will be blown away by <0>.
     I am somewhat skeptical of Early Edition, maybe their vision is not accurate...
     The West Wing is not about time travel, but see it anyway.
     
     Only some of the first season of Jack & Bobby.
     Only one (!) episode of ABC's remake of Nightstalker.

     This is children's media, I know, but so is Chronotrigger, so...

The Legend of Zelda:  no doubt that nearly everyone knows and has played these games.
Danny Phantom:  even if you haven't watched Nickelodeon in years, see this show, especially the time-traveling special.

...And the mome raths outgrabe....



I'm recommending you don't see 0Back to the Future, 0Boston Legal, 0Without a Trace.  Bad shows.



All the above are fictional.... If you want the Truth, read the Jewish Torah.
(Please use rabbinical interpretation's help, as misinterpretation can be very harmful).

                                                                             Sincerely,

                                                                 (I am a Jew in Miami Beach.)
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Leebot on March 23, 2006, 07:56:36 pm
Quote from: FAILURE
All the above are fictional.... If you want the Truth, read the Jewish Torah.


If you want the Truth, give up. One can never be sure of anything - to think otherwise is delusion. There may be a Truth out there, but you'll never know it for sure. The simple evidence that there are so many contradicting claims of Truth should be enough to convince you not to give them any weight.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Maelstrom on March 23, 2006, 11:54:30 pm
No book alone can tell you what the truth is.

To even have a hope of finding truth, you must pay each resource out there an appropriate level of respect, whether it be books, life experiences, whatever.  Try to wrap your mind around everyone's reality and try to assimilate all their ideas, hopes, and dreams, as well as your own.  Be patient in resolving contradictions, and be open to creative solutions.

This approach is likely not sufficient, but something along these lines is necessary if you want the wisdom to have any hope of finding and recognizing some answers.

"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning, but without understanding." - Justice Louis Brandeis
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on March 24, 2006, 01:42:32 am
Quote from: Ferdinand Porsche
I could not find the car I had been dreaming of, so I decided to build it.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on March 24, 2006, 06:58:10 pm
Quote from: Trent Reznor
"One step closer to the end of the world. The one-two combo of corporate greed and organized religion apparently proved to be too much for reason, sanity and compassion."

    * 4 November 2004, after the declaration of US President George Bush's re-election.

And FAILURE is obviously a bot.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on March 25, 2006, 05:55:20 pm
Quote from: Radical_Dreamer
Quote from: Ferdinand Porsche
I could not find the car I had been dreaming of, so I decided to build it.


Ouch. Well done, as usual. And quite devastatingly ironic to come so close after Leebot's nihilistic musings. The so-called "Truth" is an abstraction, coincidental with none other than the universe itself. Though much larger, it is no more intangible than my hand.

Sometimes a book only needs one page.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on April 12, 2006, 12:51:38 am
Quote from: Che Guevara
Fidel is not a communist. If he were one he would have a few more weapons.
Title: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on April 14, 2006, 06:14:14 am
Quote from: Phelps Adams
Capitalism and communism stand at opposite poles. Their essential difference is this: The communist, seeing the rich man and his fine home, says: 'No man should have so much.' The capitalist, seeing the same thing, says: 'All men should have as much.'

Quote from: Thomas Jefferson possibly
A democracy is nothing more than an angry mob, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

Quote from: Proudhon
Democracy is nothing but the Tyranny of Majorities, the most abominable tyranny of all, for it is not based on the authority of a religion, not upon the nobility of a race, not on the merits of talents and of riches. It merely rests upon numbers and hides behind the name of the people.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on April 21, 2006, 03:48:31 pm
Quote from: V_Translanka (in reference to a girl when in the company of two male friends)
Three cocks, three holes!

Quote from: Bugs Bunny
Ain't I a Stinker?

Quote from: Annonymous Internet User
LOL
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on April 22, 2006, 05:15:26 pm
Quote from: V_Translanka (in reference to a girl when in the company of two male friends)
Three cocks, three holes!

Quote from: Bugs Bunny
Ain't I a Stinker?

Quote from: Annonymous Internet User
LOL

It's good to have you back, V_T.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on April 26, 2006, 07:38:51 pm
It's good to have you back, V_T.

Don't jinx me! This place is all wonkey (w/o the willitude or the massive amounts of candies) since subSilver is gone...Maybe one of the others would look better than the one I'm using now...but...w/e...Not to mention getting behind in the Compendium is like getting behind a few semesters in a math class (ah Algebra, how I remember copying my old homework from the year before and then not understanding anything when I got to the point where I stopped doing homework...twice)...

Quote from: The Raven
Nevermore
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 01, 2006, 07:16:32 pm
Quote from: Henry Ford
It has been my observation that most people get ahead during the time that others waste.

One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do.

The competitor to be feared is one who never bothers about you at all, but goes on making his own business better all the time.

Time and money spent in helping men to do more for themselves is far better than mere giving.

If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a better horse.

Quote from: Theodore Roosevelt
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in that grey twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.

To waste, to destroy, our natural resources, to skin and exhaust the land instead of using it so as to increase its usefulness, will result in undermining in the days of our children the very prosperity which we ought by right to hand down to them amplified and developed.

Pray not for lighter burdens but for stronger backs.

There is not in all America a more dangerous trait than the deification of mere smartness unaccompanied by any sense of moral responsibility.

Quote from: Andrew Carnegie
The world stands on its head ...for those few and far between souls who devote 100 percent.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 02, 2006, 04:55:57 pm
Quote from: Winston Churchill
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Ramsus on May 04, 2006, 02:37:57 pm
Without determination, all other attributes are meaningless.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 06, 2006, 12:56:58 am
Quote from: Herbert Hoover
Words without actions are the assassins of idealism.

And try as I might, I just can't find the Edmund Spenser quote that went something like, "It is not enough to speak; one must do."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on May 06, 2006, 09:15:07 am
Quote from: Herbert Hoover
Words without actions are the assassins of idealism.

Poor Hoover...his administration got eaten by his own words.

Here's a quote by yours truly:

Quote from: Josh
Muah ha ha hah!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on May 10, 2006, 11:02:41 am
Quote from: Star Trek: The Next Generation
Q: Let us pray...for understanding, and compassion.
Picard: Let us do no such damn thing!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 11, 2006, 02:47:02 am
I've admittedly been reading KWhazit's Retranslation of Chrono Trigger. He's done most of the PC dialogue, omitting NPC stuff. He's given the clear to use it in our retranslation; the hard part is painstakingly making a script. Anyhow, this is interesting:

Quote from: Gaspar
Less haste, more speed....

Gaspar said that at the first visit to the End of Time. In the US version, he says, "And you must hurry." The meaning was completely lost. That less haste, more speed saying is a cool proverb. KWhazit explains:

More mix-ups in the NA version. The old man isn't saying to hurry. In fact, he's saying almost the opposite. Ironically, I have a better idea of what 急がば回れ (isogaba maware) really means than of "Less haste, more speed", the English equivalent listed in my dictionary. Translated from the J-J dictionary on Goo, 急がば回れ means "When in a hurry, rather than a dangerous shortcut, taking the long but safe main road is faster in the end. An admonition to take the safe and steady way." In other words, his point appears to be that, instead of trying something brave but foolish right away, they should take time to investigate and prepare.

Gaspar is worthy of being a Guru.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 11, 2006, 02:51:18 am
Oh, and the way Robo talked in the original was hilarious. Take this, for example:

Robo: THANK you for the suggestion.
HOWEVER, WHY are you graciously being kind TO us?
Do NOT Demons HATe humans?

He was prone to intentionally messing up pronouns and pronunciations, and KWhazit copied this to English by having him SHOUT IN ALL CAPS sometimes like he's making a huge outburst. It has unbelievable comedic effect.

Robo: PLEASE call me any time when I may be of SERVICE.

Robo: Wh, what ON EARTH could THESE eerie voices BE?

Robo: If we CAN defEAT Magus in the Middle Ages, MIGHT history change?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on May 26, 2006, 07:39:25 am
Quote from: Uncyclopedia
"Oh, and Allah is dead as well."

    ~ Nietzsche on Allah

"More like, you're dead, duh."

    ~ Allah on Nietzsche
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on May 26, 2006, 10:02:58 am
REPORTER to Ghandi: What do you think of Western Civilisation?
Ghandi: I think it would be a good idea!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: saridon on July 18, 2006, 11:24:02 am
Quote from: Moogles
Kupo!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FFXSage on July 29, 2006, 01:44:11 pm

Quote from: Ice Water
Crono can save the world with a Mop, and Cloud needs a gigantic sword. Crono could own Cloud.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 10, 2006, 04:52:16 pm
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Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 11, 2006, 10:49:47 pm
In all honesty, Z, could you post those as thumbnails? I know you're ZeaLitY, but it's still against forum rules to post disruptively large pictures. I don't want other people getting the idea that it's okay to do that...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on August 12, 2006, 09:54:20 am
In all honesty, Z, could you post those as thumbnails? I know you're ZeaLitY, but it's still against forum rules to post disruptively large pictures. I don't want other people getting the idea that it's okay to do that...
What do you think this is, a democracy?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Magus068 on August 16, 2006, 10:28:05 am
This should be nice...

Quote
Taking the freedom of others is true sin, that's why God gave us free will. - Matilda from the Lengend of Mana

Quote
I think should do, That I pretend that I'm one of those deaf-mutes? Or should I? - Smiley man from Ghost in the shell

Quote
What it is to a man when he gain the world but loses his own soul. - Dracula from Castlevania: The Symphony of the Night

Quote
I your attack goes well, your walking to an ambush. - anonymous

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on August 22, 2006, 08:29:45 am
Quote from: Osama Bin Laden
Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. If so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example— Sweden?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 02, 2006, 01:33:38 am
Ah, those huge pics are still there, aren't they...

Quote from: Ghandi
You are the change you wish to see in the world.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on October 02, 2006, 09:20:56 am
Ah, those huge pics are still there, aren't they...

Quote from: Ghandi
You are the change you wish to see in the world.



Yup. But those pics give us confidence! And they remind us of Guy's dynamic entry... Not to mention Rock Lee's awesome determination.  :lee: (Gawd, we need a Guy smiley.)

And that Ghandi quote is interesting... I don't really understand it, though. Care to tell me what it means?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 02, 2006, 09:28:24 am
I think it means that how we behave and mold ourselves reflects on how we would want the world to be. For instance, in matters of sport, I try to obey the highest sportsmanlike conduct specifications and be totally ethical. It's no surprise that I wish other players would do the same.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on October 02, 2006, 09:31:55 am
Ah, so it's like how I'm obsessed with Chrono Trigger, and I try desperately to get all of my friends to play it...  :lee: I convinced one of them to play it last week, actually...  :D
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on October 05, 2006, 07:33:24 pm
Whoa, this is weird, I'm actually going to be the one who tries to swing the topic back on-topic! *mock shock*

Here's some quotes from my new favorite set of comics from our neighbors to the north (Canadia), specifically by author Bryan Lee O'malleScott Pilgrim (http://www.scottpilgrim.com)!

Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life

Scott: We almost held hands once, but then she got embarassed.

Scott: I knew that I personally rocked, but I never suspected that we rocked as a unit.

Ramona: You're not alone. You're just having some idiotic dream.
Scott: I'm dreaming?...Can we make out, then?

Scott: Man, this party totally sucks. I'm going to go pee due to boredom.

Ramona: It's like...rapid transit? Subspace highways?
Scott: Is it like in Super Mario 2?

Scott Pilgrim V.S. the World

Scott: You suck, surprising no-one!!!!...If bad was a boot, you'd fit it!!!!...You're a stupid poo-poo head! I had sexual relations with your mother!!!...Your mother was not that good in bed!...You, sir, are a wretched soul!...I am rubber, you are glue!

Scott: Oh, check it out! I learned the bass line from Final Fantasy Two.

Scott: N-no! I can't even use this! Why didn't I pick that skateboard proficiency back in grade five!?

Scott Pilgrim & the Infinite Sadness

Scott: That's it! That is it, you cocky cock! You'll pay for your crimes against humanity!!!

Wallace: Ramona, I love you. I'll love you forever. And I have dipping sauce for you! I'll be your dipping sauce bitch!

Envy: Okay, so...have either of you ever been in here?
Scott: No. Well, once sort of, but I almost died.

Scott: If I peed my pants, would you guys pretend I just got wet from the rain?

Scott: Are you sure it'll be okay?
Ramona: Dude, come on. We're shirking duties randomly made up by people who hate us.

Scott: And then what happened?
Ramona: Uhhh...About thirty pages of explosions and tidal waves.

Ramona: That's it?
Scott: Yeah, I moved. I moved here. It kind of ended. We changed.
Ramona: That's it?!
Scott: What do you want?...Okay! I had to fight a dude to get with her! I fought a crazy seven-foot-tall purple-suited dude! And I had to fight 96 guys to get to him, too! He was flying and shooting lightning bolts from his eyes and he could make people do whatever he said automatically! He was totally awesome! And I kicked him so far he saw the curvature of the Earth!!
Ramona: Okay, shut up now. I'm going to bed.

Kim: We are Sex Bob-Omb!!! We are here to make you think about death and get sad and stuff!!!

Here's that interview w/Marilyn Manson that Michael Moore does in Bowling For Columbine...I've always liked it...

Marilyn Manson: The two byproducts of that whole tragedy were violence in entertainment and gun control. How perfect that those were the two things we were gonna talk about with the upcoming election. Also, then we forgot about Monica Lewinsky. And we forgot about the President shooting bombs overseas. Yet I'm a bad guy because I sing some rock 'n' roll songs. Who's a bigger influence, the President or Marilyn Manson? I'd like to think me, but I'm gonna go with the President.
Michael Moore: Do you know that the day Columbine happened the United States dropped more bombs on Kosovo than at any other time during that war?
Manson: I do know that, and I think that's really ironic that nobody said, "Maybe the President had an influence on this violent behavior." No, because that's not the way the media wants to take it and spin it and turn it into fear. Because when you're watching television, you're watching the news, being pumped full of fear. There's floods, there's AIDS, there's murder. Cut to commercial, buy the Acura. Buy the Colgate. If you have bad breath, they're not gonna talk to you. If you got pimples, the girl's not gonna fuck you. And it's just a campaign of fear and consumption. That's what I think it's all based on. The whole idea that, "keep everyone afraid and they'll consume." And that's really as simple as it can be boiled down to.
Moore: If you were to talk directly to the kids at Columbine or that community, what would you say to them if they were here?
Manson: I wouldn't say a single word to them. I'd listen to what they have to say. That's what no one did.

Here's quotes I gathered while playing a pretty decent RPG brought to you by Enix from a little series they like to call Dragon Quest...then some from Earthbound and a couple from a couple great Squaresoft games...

Dragon Warrior/Quest VII

Farmer: Monster! I'm going to collide with you indefinately as my limbs flail wildly about!

Man: Arrgh! So, you've clawed out my eye! No matter. I have another! Arrgh! So, you've clawed out my other eye! I can still blindly swing at you!

Melvin: I agree. You are a wuss.

Old Man: I dare Death to stride our way with his sickly, girlish gait!

Old Woman: I think it's going to be a while before I can toss a salad.

Old Woman: Also, his noxious smell and the way he drools resin when he eats reminds me of my elderly friends and myself.

Old Man: Zzzzz...Fun bags...Mmbl grmble...

Gabo: I hit something hard and the hard thing won.

Bartender: But we shall persevere. I still have many illegitimate children to father before I die!

Slime: Sometimes, when Mr. Monster is asleep, I crawl in his mouth and lay eggs.

Gabo: Sometimes, when you're asleep, I lick your face.

Halfling: But in the end, I just curled up into a ball as my manhood receeded into my body cavity.

Earthbound

Sheriff: At times like this, kids like you should be playing Nintendo games.

Orange Kid: I'm having more trouble than I expected. I found a problem in one of Einstein's theories...

Topolla Owner: You can buy everything but "love", "friendship" and "exp points".

Vagrant Story

Ashley Riot: Reinforcements? I am the reinforcements.

Final Fantasy Tactics

Delita: Tough...Don't blame us. Blame yourself or God.

Quote from: My Chemical Romance's 'Give 'Em Hell, Kid' Live from Mtv2's $2 Bill
Just cause you're bigger than me
Just cause you're smarter than me
Just cause you drive a better car than me
Does not mean
No way, no how
I am sucking you off for any amount of money

Quote from: David Spritz (Nicolas Cage) 'The Weather Man'
Here's something that...if you want your father to think you're not a silly fuck...don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think...unless you're a nobleman or something in the 19th centurey...which I'm not.

Quote from: Barry Egan (Adam Sandler) 'Punch-Drunk Love'
I have so much strength in me. You have no idea. I have a love in my life. It makes me stronger than anything you can imagine.

Here's one of the MOST true quotes I've EVER seen/heard...

Quote from: Fabienne (Maria De Medeiros) 'Pulp Fiction'
Any time of the day is a good time for pie.

Quote from: Dr. Crobe ([i]Mission Earth I: The Invaders Plan[/i] by L. Ron Hubbard
So, you be sure to exercise every day. Otherwise, in that low gravity, your muscles and tendons will get flabby. And oxygenate yourself. And eat hamburgers and drink beer and you'll be fine.

Quote from: Chuck Palahniuk's [i]Invisible Monsters[/i]
Another thing is no matter how much you think you love somebody, you'll step back when the pool of their blood edges up too close.

Quote from: Stephen King's [i]The Dark Tower series[/i]
The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.

Quote from: Roland Deschain, Stephen King's [i]The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower[/i]
All my life I've had the fastest hands, but at being good I was always too slow.

Quote from: Roland Deschain, Stephen King's [i]The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower[/i]
My first suggestion is that you fix that fucking stutter.

Quote from: Tom Cullen, Stephen King's [i]The Stand[/i]
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want for nothing. He makes me lie down in the green pastures. He greases up my head with oil. He gives me kung-fu in the face of my enemies. Amen.

Quote from: Invader Zim
Now to unleash screaming temporal doom.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 22, 2006, 11:11:05 pm
Quote from: Bruce Lee
The future looks extremely bright indeed, with lots of possibilities ahead — big possibilities. Like the song says, "We've just begun."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on October 22, 2006, 11:55:04 pm
Quote from: [b][i]Hobbins[/i][/b] from [b]Beneath A Steel Sky[/b]
It's crap, son.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 23, 2006, 12:01:20 am
Bruce Lee owns whatever the hell that is.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: nightmare975 on October 25, 2006, 04:24:26 pm
I'm going to win quote of the year! Not really :D

Quote from: My Video Teacher
I hate eating gooey eggs, it's like eating an abortion.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on October 26, 2006, 06:08:37 am
I'm going to win quote of the year! Not really :D

Quote from: My Video Teacher
I hate eating gooey eggs, it's like eating an abortion.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1273/quoteut2.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on October 26, 2006, 03:19:03 pm
"Next time someone calls me a jedi they'll be lying in a pool of their own blood"
- Jedi Exile
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Magus22 on October 26, 2006, 03:51:30 pm
"Alright you primitave screwheads listen up... see this? This . . . is my BOOMSTICK!!"

-Ash

from Army of Darkness as he voiced his opinions toward the medieval townspeople
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on October 26, 2006, 04:32:46 pm
Quote from: Mr. T
Only a fool tries to fool Mr. T!

~ Mr. T (http://fool.ytmnd.com/)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on October 27, 2006, 08:10:00 pm
Quote from: The Wizard of Oz by Frank L. Baum
"Then, if you don't mind, I'll go with you," said the Lion, "for my life is simply unbearable without a bit of courage."

"You will be very welcome," answered Dorothy, "for you will help to keep away the other wild beasts. It seems to me they must be more cowardly than you are if they allow you to scare them so easily."

"They really are," said the Lion, "but that doesn't make me any braver, and as long as I know myself to be a coward I shall be unhappy."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ChibiBob on October 30, 2006, 12:15:11 am
Why DeJap is God:

"Mint's got that quiet elegance around her, but I bet Arche fucks like a tiger."
- Klarth, Tales of Phantasia
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on November 05, 2006, 10:34:54 pm
CLINT EASTWOOD

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"That's enough of that shit." - what Eastwood says after a take, instead of "Cut!"

Quote
"I like the libertarian view, which is to leave everyone alone. Even as a kid, I was annoyed by people who wanted to tell everyone how to live."

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"I think I'm on a track of doing pictures nobody wants to do, that they're all afraid of. I guess it's the era we live in, where they're doing remakes of "The Dukes of Hazzard" (1979) and other old television shows. I must say, I'm not a negative person, but sometimes I wonder what kind of movies people are going to be making 10 years from now if they follow this trajectory. When I grew up there was such a variety of movies being made. You could go see Sergeant York (1941) or Sitting Pretty (1948) or Sullivan's Travels (1941), dozens of pictures, not to mention all the great B movies. Now, they're looking for whatever the last hit was. If it's The Incredibles (2004), they want 'The Double Incredibles.' My theory is they ought to corral writers into writers' buildings like they used to and start out with fresh material."

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"Plastic surgery used to be a thing where older people would try to go into this dream world of being 28 years old again. But now, in Hollywood, even people at 28 are having work done. Society has made us believe you should look like an 18-year-old model all your life. But I figure I might as well just be what I am."

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Asked if he has disappointed his conservative fans by directing Million Dollar Baby (2004): "Well, I got a big laugh out of that. These people are always bitching about 'Hollyweird', and then they start bitching about this film. Are they all so mad because The Passion of the Christ (2004) is only up for the makeup award and a couple of other minor things? Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: grey_the_angel on November 06, 2006, 05:05:34 am
I'm going to win quote of the year! Not really :D

Quote from: My Video Teacher
I hate eating gooey eggs, it's like eating an abortion.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1273/quoteut2.jpg)
no no... quote of the year goes to my friend for this quote:

Power rangers is all american.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on November 06, 2006, 05:52:08 am
“If I am thus fortuned to bear heaven’s hatred, let me at least have it in full measure. Let no wrath be spared, but my contentious spirit be renowned for its audacity, and at last die to no mortal spear, but let God’s own bolt foil my ambition, be my life’s end, and send a kindled spirit to Akheron’s crossing still afire.”

Uhh... is it bad to quote oneself?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on November 07, 2006, 09:31:10 pm
Ah, that Mr. T quote made me think of this awesome one from when he was on Conan (he's always at his best on Conan, I think)...

Quote from: Mr. T
Sometimes the T doesn't even stand for things that rhyme with T, like knife.

Ah, good times...I wrote a poem about Mr. T for one of my English classes once...ah, it was grand...^_^
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Solid_Choke on November 15, 2006, 02:26:33 am
Quote from: Max Planck
A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.

Quote from: Thomas Paine
It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.

Quote from: Ayn Rand
Let no man posture as an advocate of peace if he proposes or supports any social system that initiates the use of force against individual men, in any form.

Quote from: Thomas Jefferson
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Quote from: Dennis Prager
The foolishness of that comment is so deep I can only ascribe it to higher education. You HAVE to have gone to college to say something that stupid.

Quote from: King David
Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: grey_the_angel on November 15, 2006, 02:46:26 am
I do no like green eggs and ham, for sam, I am.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on November 25, 2006, 01:48:54 am
I like the stuff hidden in UT's .umx music files:

Organic:

"deal death in spades"

Razorback:

Enter the mutant traitor
Burning oh so bright
In this corrupted nature
I see no other light

- -

Addicted to radiation
Fueled by your pain
Aroused high by contamination
Soothed by acid rain

- -

Mother nature lied to me;
Betrayed on a killing spree
Mother nature expelled me;
What's the use now, that I'm free
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on November 26, 2006, 09:01:50 pm
Wang Chung rules. Yeah, the band and the Chinese philosopher both. I checked out the latter from curiosity and lo and behold, he's one of those kickass people who look like they're woefully out of place in a superstitious world. Read about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Ch%27ung_%28philosopher%29

And some of his quotes are at http://www.humanistictexts.org/wangchung.htm

Quote
People say that spirits are the souls of dead men. That being the case, spirits should always appear naked, for surely it is not contended that clothes have souls as well as men.

The guy just plain kicks ass. Some people would try to explain why at this point or make a real compliment, but I'm going to keep it with "he kicks ass." He basically flipped a giant middle finger to all the superstition that reigned in his day. Bruce Lee probably liked this guy. Now, after you've read about him, listen to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOluR4Dp9nQ

Now, is that not the coolest thing ever? Imagine this guy who kicks ass in antiquity and how this totally happy song bears his namesake. That is cool.

Quote
It is on record that Wen Wang could drink a thousand bumpers of wine and Confucius a hundred gallons. From this we are to infer how great the virtue of these sages was, as it enabled them to master the wine. If at one sitting they could drink a thousand bumpers or a hundred gallons, they must have been drunkards, not sages.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on February 06, 2007, 07:37:48 am
Quote
Guy: All your hard work will prove worthless if you don't believe in yourself!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Goldark on February 06, 2007, 11:17:04 am
Quote
Be happy while you're living, for you're a long time dead.
-Scottish Proverb

Quote
If the whole human race lay in one grave, the epitaph on its headstone might well be: `It seemed a good idea at the time.
  Dame Rebecca West

Quote
Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens. Circumstances and situations do color life but you have been given the mind to choose what the color shall be.
John Homer Miller

Quote
So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb
-Dark Helmet "Spaceballs"




Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 12, 2007, 01:43:20 pm
Quote
Man does not live by bread alone. I have known millionaires starving for lack of the nutriment which alone can sustain all that is human in man, and I know workmen, and many so-called poor men, who revel in luxuries beyond the power of those millionaires to reach. It is the mind that makes the body rich. There is no class so pitiably wretched as that which possesses money and nothing else. Money can only be the useful drudge of things immeasurably higher than itself. Exalted beyond this, as it sometimes is, it remains Caliban still and still plays the beast. My aspirations take a higher flight. Mine be it to have contributed to the enlightenment and the joys of the mind, to the things of the spirit, to all that tends to bring into the lives of the toilers of Pittsburgh sweetness and light. I hold this the noblest possible use of wealth.

Who else but the most awesome captain of industry ever? Carnegie!

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I propose to take an income no greater than $50,000 per annum! Beyond this I need ever earn, make no effort to increase my fortune, but spend the surplus each year for benevolent purposes! Let us cast aside business forever, except for others. Let us settle in Oxford and I shall get a thorough education, making the acquaintance of literary men. I figure that this will take three years active work. I shall pay especial attention to speaking in public. We can settle in London and I can purchase a controlling interest in some newspaper or live review and give the general management of it attention, taking part in public matters, especially those connected with education and improvement of the poorer classes. Man must have an idol and the amassing of wealth is one of the worst species of idolatry! No idol is more debasing than the worship of money! Whatever I engage in I must push inordinately; therefore should I be careful to choose that life which will be the most elevating in its character. To continue much longer overwhelmed by business cares and with most of my thoughts wholly upon the way to make more money in the shortest time, must degrade me beyond hope of permanent recovery. I will resign business at thirty-five, but during these ensuing two years I wish to spend the afternoons in receiving instruction and in reading systematically!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on February 12, 2007, 03:16:33 pm
Quote
Who? Who is but the form following the function of what and what I am is a man in a mask.

Quote
Of course you can, I'm not questioning your powers of observation, I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

Quote
But on this most auspicious of nights, permit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace soubriquet, to suggest the character of this dramatis persona.

Quote
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.

Quote
Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.

- V


Now yeah. =)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on February 12, 2007, 03:45:07 pm
I LOVE that film. ^^
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on February 12, 2007, 03:57:34 pm
Me too. V is the awesomest comic-born character to ever grace the big screen.



Speaking of comic-born characters...


Quote
I'm Batman.

- Spider-man on Batman

(http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/1/1f/SpidermanX.gif)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 16, 2007, 10:09:25 pm
Quote
More glorious to merit a sceptre than to possess one.

Quote
Riches do not consist in the possession of treasures, but in the use made of them.

Quote
Different subjects and different affairs are arranged in my head as in a cupboard. When I wish to interrupt one train of thought, I shut that drawer and open another. Do I wish to sleep, I simply close all the drawers and then I am— asleep.

Quote
Great ambition is the passion of a great character. He who is endowed with it may perform either very great actions or very bad ones; all depends upon the principles which direct him.

Quote
I have recognised the limits of my eyesight and of my legs, but never the limits of my working power.

Quote
It requires more courage to suffer than to die.

Quote
Victory belongs to the most persevering.

Napoleon was a bit of a bastard when it came to certain issues and sexism, but he certainly made his mark upon the world!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lu Su on February 17, 2007, 05:56:17 am
Quote
"A wise general strives to feed off the enemys land. Each bushel of food taken fromthe enemy is worth twenty carried from home"
Sun Tzu

Quote
the most important thing in war is victory, not persevering
Sun Tzu
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on February 23, 2007, 02:00:58 am
Me too. V is the awesomest comic-born character to ever grace the big screen.

Maybe until they realize the awesomeness of Frank Miller (Sin City, 300) and just give him the Batman movie franchise...and whenever the fuck Alan Moore's (He did V For Vendetta, in case you're a comic n00b or something) other masterpiece, Watchmen comes out will blow V outta the water...I was a hair dissapointed that they kind of lost the Anarchy mentality and seemed to focus more on the fact that he wears a Guy Fawkes mask...

Or were you guys all talking about how awesome I am? :lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on February 23, 2007, 07:39:26 am
Maybe until they realize the awesomeness of Frank Miller (Sin City, 300) and just give him the Batman movie franchise...and whenever the fuck Alan Moore's (He did V For Vendetta, in case you're a comic n00b or something) other masterpiece, Watchmen comes out will blow V outta the water...I was a hair dissapointed that they kind of lost the Anarchy mentality and seemed to focus more on the fact that he wears a Guy Fawkes mask...

Actually, I like what they did in the movie. The anarchist themes from the graphic novel would never have the same reach on today's audience as the whole totalitarist x liberalist post-war thing. Also, I like what they did to Evey.

And, actually, I wasn't even writing about the movie, but specifically its version of the character V himself.


Or were you guys all talking about how awesome I am? :lol:

We were actually being sarcastic. What we meant was that you are a terrible person, you stink of pepperoni, and are a disgusting political neo-anarchist 8 year old blond girl  :lee: GUESS YOU'D NEVER FIND THAT OUT ON YOUR ON, HUH.  :lee: :lee:



Edit: Oh, and, BTW, I can't wait for 300 come out! =D
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on February 23, 2007, 08:24:12 am
Yeah, I liked the anarchy angle because it's so obvious that that's where his symbol came from (especially when it's spray painted)...and it still went through all that other stuff...I understand the WHYs though movie scripts aren't as long or involved as comics can be...

Oh, and I like the smell of pepperoni, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on February 23, 2007, 10:48:12 am
Actually, I also like it.  8)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Irothtin on March 05, 2007, 12:31:50 am
Quote
"Nearly everyone who isn't a Shadow escapes the Shadows."
Quote
"Just as you touch the energy of every life form you meet, so, too, will their energy strengthen you. Fail to live up to your potential, and you will never win."
Quote
"I came, I saw... I got blowed up."
Quote
"History is rarely made by reasonable men."
Quote
"For if you knew who stood with you, how could you be afraid?"
Quote
Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?
Quote
We are all travellers in the wilderness of this world, and the best we can find in our travels is an honest friend.
Quote
"Double the pleasure, Double the fun..."
Quote
"A mind that is stretched by a new idea can never go back to its original dimensions."
Quote
"I'm confused."

"So what else is new?"
Quote
"Fate makes fools of us all."
Quote
"Oh, sh-"
"You said it."
Quote
The Reaper is always a step behind me...
Quote
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Quote
"Just because someone is on the other side, does not make them 'evil.' "
Quote
"Say, can you hear that? It's the sound of the Reaper..."

Quote
"Breaking up is hard to do."
"I wouldn’t know."
Quote
"If you find it in your heart to care for somebody else, you will have succeeded."
Quote
"But don't you see what this means?"
"Yes. We're going to die."
Quote
"Hesitation can be the end of you-or those you care about."
Quote
“Lord, what fools these mortals be.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on March 23, 2007, 04:18:22 pm
Those who criticize you correctly are your teachers. Those who praise you correctly are your friends. Those who flatter you are your enemies.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on March 23, 2007, 09:11:26 pm
And those who feed you are hamburgers.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on March 27, 2007, 01:02:16 pm
And those who feed you are hamburgers.

Good sir, how are you so witty?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on April 09, 2007, 11:43:43 pm
The harder I fall, the higher I'll bounce.

-Who knows. But it fits very well with the springtime of youth. That kind of ultimate never-give-up attitude is what legends are made of.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on April 20, 2007, 12:56:23 pm
Ah, I can't resist.

Quote
We're in the building
Where they make us grow
And I'm frightened by
The liquid engineers
Like you.

My Mallory heart
Is sure to fail
I could crawl around the floor
Just like I'm real
Like you.

The sound of metal
I want to be
You
I should learn to be a man
Like you.

Plug me in
And turn me on
Oh everything is moving.

I need my treatment
It's tomorrow they send me
Singing 'I am an American'.
Do you?

Picture this
If I could make the change
I'd love to pull the wires from the wall
Did you?

And who are you
And how can I try
Here inside I like metal
Don't you

All I know
Is no-one dies
I'm still confusing love with need

METAL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynrmm6f8Miw
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on April 20, 2007, 11:44:21 pm
Do you happen to like Year Zero?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on April 20, 2007, 11:50:20 pm
There is some NIN I like, yes. But Gary Numan is the artist for "Metal" I most like.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on April 25, 2007, 02:09:47 am
Quote
Lone Starr: A million? That's unfair.
Pizza the Hutt: Unfair to payor but not to payee. But you're gonna pay it, or else!
Barf: Or else what?
Pizza the Hutt: Tell him, Vinnie.
Vinnie: Or else pizza is gonna send out for *you*!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on April 25, 2007, 10:09:33 am
Quote
Lone Starr: A million? That's unfair.
Pizza the Hutt: Unfair to payor but not to payee. But you're gonna pay it, or else!
Barf: Or else what?
Pizza the Hutt: Tell him, Vinnie.
Vinnie: Or else pizza is gonna send out for *you*!

I freakin' love Spaceballs.

"You idiot! You captured their stunt doubles!"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Beeyo on May 01, 2007, 06:30:46 am
Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought- a fortune cookie.

By the way, my lucky numbers are 14,72,55,61, and 5.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: cupn00dles on May 01, 2007, 05:28:56 pm
Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought

I like that one.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Beeyo on May 02, 2007, 09:54:18 pm
What great things would you attempt if you knew you could not fail?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on May 04, 2007, 01:53:34 am
What great things would you attempt if you knew you could not fail?

I would use my Bombos medallion on the Republicans.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on May 04, 2007, 03:52:26 am
What great things would you attempt if you knew you could not fail?

I would use my Bombos medallion on the Republicans.

Great stuff indeed.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Beeyo on May 06, 2007, 10:29:07 am
Everything serves to further.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: thanatos on May 09, 2007, 09:22:26 pm
As long as there are kids who are pissed off and have no real way in venting out that anger, heavy metal will live on.~Ozzie Osbourne

Tact is for those not intelligent enough to use sarcasm.

Procrastination is like masturbation. It feels good for a while, but in the end, you're just fucking yourself.

Do not fear the world ending today, it's already tomorrow in Australia.

Strength is the only thing that matters. Everything else is an illusion for the weak~Vegeta

Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God.~Jean Rostand

A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.~Joseph Stalin

Men! You're lucky men. Soon you'll all be fighting for you're planet. Many of you will die for your planet. A few of you will be forced through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all.~Zap Branigan

Not all who wander are lost~J.R.R. Tolkein

People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.~Dr. Perry Cox

Democrats were quick to point out that President Bush's budget creates a 1 trillion dollar deficit. The White House quickly responded with 'Hey, look over there, it's Saddam Hussein.'~Craig Kilborn

Life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease.~Colin Greene

"I believe...when life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade. Then find someone whose life has given them Vodka, and have a party."~Ron White
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Beeyo on May 10, 2007, 04:44:50 am
Alright, you win.
You know how many fortune cookies I would have to eat to get that many quotes?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kyronea on May 10, 2007, 06:28:45 am
Life isn't fair...it's just fairer than death.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Beeyo on May 11, 2007, 10:14:43 am
If you swim out to sea to save a drowning man, knock him out before you attempt to swim to shore with him. Through all of his struggling and fighting to stay above the waves, he might drag you under the water to your death.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on May 11, 2007, 09:14:27 pm
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being noble is a sin, save your self your family, your stuff, then help everyone else
local community emergency response team's(cert) motto
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 29, 2007, 12:42:47 am
Perhaps Winston Churchill can speak for global warming:

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The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences.[/quot]
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 24, 2007, 07:46:38 am
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You have at your command the wisdom of the ages.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on June 24, 2007, 08:08:13 am
Short version: You're a fucking idiot. If you're going to be lazy and inept and start yet another worthless forum with no purpose other than to pet your own ego, then try at least stringing some actual words together, you worthless fuck.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Magus068 on June 26, 2007, 04:37:59 am
Short version: You're a fucking idiot. If you're going to be lazy and inept and start yet another worthless forum with no purpose other than to pet your own ego, then try at least stringing some actual words together, you worthless fuck.

Whoa... very nasty!  When did this happen?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kyronea on June 26, 2007, 08:32:29 am
Try looking at the date on the post.

Also, that's not nasty so much as brutally honest.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on June 30, 2007, 07:06:47 pm
Success is simple. Do what's right, the right way, at the right time.
Arnold H. Glasow

I wish I never met that damn cat.
Erwin Schrödinger
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 16, 2007, 04:04:48 pm
Going over the comments for Wang Chung's "Let's Go" music video at Youtube (it's a really wacky music video, like 80s on steroids):

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albinomonkassassin
love this...everyones so much more cheerful than today lol like, today there would be like a video of someone slitting their wrists or something lol

Hah! Yes, the 80s were positive.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 17, 2007, 04:35:35 pm
This was posted on the billboard of a gym I go to:

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It is the Soldier, not the minister
Who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the Soldier, not the reporter
Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the Soldier, not the poet
Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer
Who has given us freedom to protest.

It is the Soldier, not the lawyer
Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the Soldier, not the politician
Who has given us the right to vote.

It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

Oh yes, civil life is completely irrelevant compared to militarism. While there is some truth in that strength allows life to flourish, this kind of thing demands total reverence and obedience. I spent the longest time trying to think of a clear, witty rebuttal to it, and I finally found a satirical example in Hermann Goring's favorite quote:

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When I hear the word 'culture', I reach for my gun.

(http://www.btinternet.com/~thisispunkrock/ps/fra/checkmate.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 30, 2007, 03:00:21 am
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Sanity!? Sorry, but I don't remember having such a useless thing in the first place.

(http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/5015/kenpachiug5.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on July 30, 2007, 04:19:46 am
Quote from: Albert Einstein
A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.

Quote from: David Hume
A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 02, 2007, 02:47:37 pm
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Distances and spans of time and difficulty unimaginable to most men are but the space between your footprints.

I modified it somewhat. Guess the source, the rest of you! It's closer than you think.

(http://www.final-fantasy.ch/Ff8/images/zell.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 07, 2007, 12:06:17 am
"Anything worth doing, is worth doing badly."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: CyberSarkany on August 07, 2007, 07:20:47 am
"I suck at roking*, but I rock at sucking"

*Rok is the DeathMatch mode in a Shooter I used to play
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on August 07, 2007, 08:03:06 pm
Quote from: Edith Sitwell
I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 13, 2007, 11:15:14 pm
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Sometimes people call me an idealist. Well, that is the way I know I am an American. America is the only idealistic nation in the world.

-Woodrow Wilson

Perhaps in this day and age, a handful of those ideals are being confused or misused. But his statement about America's being idealist is still true. An episode of Malcolm in the Middle humorously addressed this; when Malcolm's female friend returned from a trip in Europe, she was an extreme, pessimistic nihilist with a need to insult, demean, and satirize anything within her vision.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 14, 2007, 08:31:41 pm
August Caesar, come on down!

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Hasten deliberately.

Sounds like "more speed, less haste".

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I found Rome a city of bricks and left it a city of marble.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 15, 2007, 03:38:09 am
Quote
It's at the borders of pain and suffering that the men are separated from the boys.

-Emil Zatopek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zatopek)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 15, 2007, 05:57:27 am
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But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?" he asked. "Bring me a denarius and let me look at it." They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied. Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sora on August 23, 2007, 02:55:32 pm
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But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?" he asked. "Bring me a denarius and let me look at it." They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied. Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.

whats that mean?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kyronea on August 23, 2007, 03:02:48 pm
whats that mean?
Keep state and church separate, basically.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sora on August 23, 2007, 03:06:11 pm
whats that mean?
Keep state and church separate, basically.
really? that doesnt sound like something Jesus would say. I mean doesnt he think you should live life 100% always with God? so saying that is like adding "Unless your doing something state related."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 24, 2007, 01:20:16 am
Hmm. Yes, Sora, what a fine point that would be if you weren't completely wrong. Which brings me to another quote:

Quote from: Harrison Ford
Get off my plane!!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on August 24, 2007, 04:17:25 pm

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"Wow! I feel as if I've passed some arbitrary experience value and gained more power!"
--Marcus
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"Uh... I have information that... could lead to establishing a network of... um, all the existing vaults throughout the country. Yea that's it."
--The Chosen One
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"How about you and I... well, you know... get together."
"Listen... uh... but I... uh... I-I like guys, okay? Whew! Uh, excuse me, I got stuff to do."
--The Vault Dweller and Tandi

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"I am the bringer of death. Fall to your knees and beg for mercy... Or give me a sandwich, I'm pretty hungry."
--The Vault Dweller

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"What do you want?"
"To see a valley filled with my enemies' heads mounted on spears. A silent valley, except for the wind whistling through their ears."
--Thug and the Vault Dweller

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"What sort of stupid questions?"
"Oh, like: 'Why can't I use a sword or a chainsaw on my monitor?'"
--The Chosen One and Dave Handy


Aww yes the beauty of Fallouts dialog
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sora on August 24, 2007, 04:21:45 pm
Hmm. Yes, Sora, what a fine point that would be if you weren't completely wrong. Which brings me to another quote:

Quote from: Harrison Ford
Get off my plane!!
how am i wrong?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on August 24, 2007, 06:36:39 pm
Hmm. Yes, Sora, what a fine point that would be if you weren't completely wrong. Which brings me to another quote:

Quote from: Harrison Ford
Get off my plane!!
how am i wrong?

Mark 12:15-17 (http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/12.html)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sora on August 24, 2007, 06:50:25 pm
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Mark: Homosexuality

   1. One of the followers of Jesus was a young, nearly naked man who dropped his linen cloth and "fled from them naked" when the priests came to arrest Jesus. 14:51-52

...i dont get it. running around naked is gay?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 24, 2007, 08:28:01 pm
From batmant at Digg:

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I bet Steve is laughing his ass off right now. He made the Jesus phone Asia could never produce. Then he signs a 5-year exclusivity deal knowing full damn well what his community will do with the thing once it's on the market. Then, it all comes to fruition and iPhone sales go up even further (at least through the Apple store). Ten bucks says Apple doesn't do a thing to prevent this (a la Apple TV).
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: nightmare975 on August 24, 2007, 10:08:33 pm
This is a quote that I made up, and I follow it everyday.

Quote from: me
You have all the time to type something, but only a few seconds to say something.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 29, 2007, 03:00:36 pm
Miss Teen USA candidate, Lauren Upton:

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Q. Why can't a fifth of Americans locate the US on a map?

A. I personally believe that ... um ....that US Americans are unable to do so because, ah soma people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh...I belive our education, like just as in south africa and the Iraq...everywhere..like such as..and...ah...and I believe that they should...our education over here in the US should help the US....or should help South Africa and should Iraq and the Asian Countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8QDlPX9Y3g
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on August 29, 2007, 03:10:34 pm
She not even that great looking. :(
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Glennleo on August 29, 2007, 10:16:40 pm
She not even that great looking. :(

Eh, I find her attractive. That clip is sooo huge right now, it's ridiculous.
She may not be the smartest tool in the shed, but I think her nerves had a huge part in the words that spewed stupidly form her mouth. But then again she may just be an idiot.  :lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on August 29, 2007, 10:18:41 pm
She's an idiot, but the question was just stupid anyways...I mean, what was the answer they were expecting? How many good answers are there? "Yeah, that's lame...lots of Americans are dumb, I guess...?"

Anyways...here's all the quotes I currently have on this CD that has some of my written crap on it from before my comp did what it did...

Final Fantasy 6 (Re-Translation)

Figaro Castle Prisoner: Damn! Er, does my body stink?

Figaro Castle Woman: Master Edgar really likes women. From children on up to old woman, and everything in between.

Cefca: SON OF A BITCH! You'll pay for this soon!

Vargas: Die! Super Wind Tsunami Fist!

Bannan: Do you know this story? When evil was still absent from the hearts of men, there was said to be a box that could never be opened. However, one man decided to open that box. From inside came all the evils of the human heart...Jealousy...Envy...Greed...Hatred...Control...But a single grain of light remained inside the box...A light known as hope.
Tina: ...
Bannan: No matter what may be, I don't believe your powers are a curse. They are the last grain of light left to this world. They are the grain of light called 'hope'.

Tina: Hope...I...I've never had much of it...

Lock: Oh yes......Take care around a certain infamous king and his swift hands.

Shadow: The reaper is always running after me.

Cefca: It doesn't matter! Those monkeys deserve to die, getting caught by the enemy!

Cefca: Kh, shut up, you. You're an eyesore!

Cefca: Wait, he says! Ha, do I look like a waiter to you!?

Cefca: Haahaahaa...You're one way too persistent bugger!!!

Cefca: Hehe...Hundreds of screams shall echo in my ears like an orchestra, and then cease to exist. Hehe...

Mash: Ouchies...Shouldn't walk into the midst of a battle...

Mash: Food, food! Preferrably a lot of it!

Mash: The world's greatest swordsman? Yeah right, get lost before you get burned.

Dancer: Hey, pops. Care to have some fun with me? Come on!
Cayene: W, w, w, w, w, why you slut! Get your hands off of me!
Dancer: Stop being so stiff. You'll enjoy it. Promise, boyfriend.
Cayene: B, b, b, b, b, boyfriend!?
Mash: Cayene, buddy, don't let it bug you.
Cayene: H, how can you be so calm?
Mash: I deal with this sort of thing all the time. I happen to know quite a bit on the subject of women.
Dancer: Don't be tight-lipped. Hehe...
Cayene: D, damn. Listen. There is a thing we call "decency". You should be more modest, so you don't embarass yourself. And furthermore...And...And then, too...Yeah, yeah.

Setzer: I'll express my love to you slowly, later.

Setzer: You can't do a thing about it. When things fall, they fall...Keeping up is all a matter of fate, a gamble with your life...

Setzer: The most important thing...? To have no obligations, so you're free to gamble without risk!

Mog: A creepy old man named Ramah came to me in a dream, kupo.

Cid: What a great ship you have here.
Setzer: The engine was damaged by the shock of the emergency landing, and it's still under repair. It's going to take some time to finish fixing it.
Cid: I can help. I'm a master mechanic.
Setzer: I can figure it out myself.
Cid: You could make this thing so much faster if you got rid of that gambling casino, you know.
Setzer: ......Shut the hell up!! Go on, get out of here!
Cid: But it really would speed this thing up...
Tina: I really like this ship.
Setzer: I remember when I was your age, before I was a gambler, and I was devoted to something other than this ship...
Tina: ......Huh?
Setzer: I dreamed of making the fastest ship in the world, and flying all over the sky in it...I pursued that dream relentlessly.
Tina: And it's different now?
Setzer: That dream was all that drove me on back then. There was another airship in the world at that time, the fastest ever, the Falcon. Its pilot and I...We used to be the best of friends, and the most intense rivals ever. Back then, we'd fly the skies together, without a care in the world...But then, one day, the Falcon and its pilot disappeared, and my happy days of youth were over.......Darryl.........

Shadow: I'm working for the Empire now....Oh, but you don't need to worry. I'm not about to backstab you if the opportunity presents itself.

The beginning of Magic......Three gods were banished from the heavens, and they quarreled with one another on this plane. Those who got in their way were transformed into Phantom Beasts, and forced to fight for them. The battle between the three continued for a long time. Finally, after centuries of battling one another, the three realized that they were not accomplishing anything. In a rare moment of mutual agreement, they sealed each other in stone, neutralizing one another's powers, and freed the Phantom Beasts from their bonds to them. They formed the "Eternal Seal", and entrusted the Phantom Beasts to protect it for all time. In order to prevent the tragedies that the three gods instigated before, and to prevent their power from being tampered with, these three idols were crafted. The long sleep of the Gods of Battle must not be disrupted, or the world may again be destroyed...

Relm: What's wrong, randy man?
Edgar: How old are you?
Relm: Ten. Strange old man. Relm is coming, too.
Edgar: That's just criminal......Don't even think of it.

Final Fantasy 6 (Character Introductions)

A mysterious young woman, born with the gift of magic, and controlled by the Empire...Tina

A world-wise treasure hunter, seeking out hidden treasures and artifacts of the ancient world...Lock

The young king of a technologically oriented civilization of the desert, residing over Figaro Castle, and allied to the Empire...Edgar

Edgar's younger twin brother, who threw away his royal right he'd been handed for his freedom, and fled the castle forever...Mash

He vows his allegiance to nobody. Those who look beneath his mask see only the cold gleam of his empty eyes...Shadow

A brave man who does not fear death, defending his home country by brandishing his sword, an exotic warrior who is fiercely loyal......Cayene

Wild and unruly, raised by monsters, with a kind heart and mind, a boy with a strange light in his eyes......Gau

Artificially enhanced as a child, an Imperial General who has fought many battles with magic, but beneath the mask of her rank, she is nobody...Celes

Free from the wiles of justice......A man who flies about the skies on the Blackjack, liberated from the world below, a gambler without scruples...Setzer

A Moglie that speaks the human tongue, and can draw power from the very land around him...Mog

An old man, well-learned and experienced, spending his declining years studying various monsters...Strago

She captures all things perfectly on canvas...Forests, water, light, even the very essence of a person's soul...Relm

Chrono Cross


Lynx: Now come to me, Serge! The Assassin of Time...THE CHRONO TRIGGER!!!

Lynx: Listen to me...The end of the human world is nigh!

Lynx: This is not speculation or prediction...This is history!

Lynx: ...have you ever questioned who you really are?

Lynx: denying me is the same as erasing your very existence.

Lynx: Life and death...Love and hate...They are all the same.

Dark Serge: Now, let love bleed! Darker and deeper than the seas of hell!

Kid: Up until that Lynx bastard...came and shattered our happiness to pieces!

Kid: In this world, the underhanded always gets the last laugh. Only the ones who don't think anything of hurtin' others are the ones who get bloodstained fortunes. The ones who kill, the ones who devour, they're the ones who survive. That's the only rule of this world.

Kid: I'll abide by this world's rules, and do what I gotta do, despite the rotten hand of cards I've been dealt!

Kid: The world's callin' you Serge...Callin' that lost piece of the puzzle...

Kid: I'm gonna kick yer sorry arses so hard you'll kiss the moons!

Harle: Ahaha, such a simpleton. It'z so fun playing jokez on you!

Harle: I will kick your derriere to ze moon, if you talk to mon Lynx comme ca!

Harle: One blow and it'z off to the other world wit' you!

Harle: Every probleme haz a solution...I hope...

Sprigg: Meanin' is non-existent. No matter wot'z born, lost or changed...it'z beyond calculation. There be no one or nothin' watchin' over you...Such is life.

Glenn: I need to see for myself what is happening!

Glenn: My dragoon training is a lot harder than that.

Greco: Everything that has form must eventually fade away...

Fargo: ...man is not as strong as you think.

Doc: ...Another life is about to slip through my hands...just like before.

Funguy: I'll stalk you through the depths of hell!

Miguel: There is nothing in the world as ruthless or impartial as death.

Miguel: People are dragged into playing this game...forced to put their lives on the line...without even knowing the rules. Without even being allowed to complain, they try to do their best under the conditions placed upon them...The only alternative is to give up and leave the playing field in a forfeit...

Miguel: Don't let it bother you. It's just a distant echo from ones far gone...It's just an illusion.

The Prophet (Belthasar): You have no place in this world...Here, you are but a ghost brought back from the past!

Direa: Hmm? There is an odd wind that is whirling about. I have heard that such wind-bearers appear at times, but...

Sage of Marbule: The black dream of the Black Dragon...Unable to return, it continues to wander...

Crono Ghost: The vengeance of the future we killed is about to begin...With Serge serving as the trigger...

Skelly's Grandma: Don't hold back tears of joy.

Dwarf Chieftain: You will pay for not heeding our warnings...with your death!

Blue Dragon: Wilt thou change this world...Or wilt thou change thyself? Wilt thou live on with thy mother planet...Or wilt thou turn thy back on the planet and tread another path?

White Dragon: I, too, would like to witness this. How thou shalt live and how thou shalt die...If thou art planning to bring forth a new entity, prepare thyself for anguish and sorrow.

Zelbess: How I pity you , mirror, for man does not see you as the mirror that you are.

Rosetta: A very sad tragedy, triggered by the acts of humans.

8-Bit Theater

Theif: Your GP or your HP!

Fighter: Y'know. Random encounters. You'll just be walkin' along and wham, a batch of monsters appear out of nowhere and you have to fight to the death!
Black Mage: You're a looney.

Black Mage: Oh sweet zombie jesus on a pogo-stick! We're screwed.

Fighter: My invincibility is killing me.

Fighter: We're so powerful, just our battlecry killed them!

Black Mage: Give my regards to the bottom of the ocean, sinky!

Yoda: Trips lead to absences Absences lead to guest strips. Guest strips...lead to copyright infringement. Yes, I sense much copyright infringement in this.

Red Mage: And I thought all thieves could do in a fight was run away.

Fighter: Wait, let me get this straight. So thief is the elf formerly known as prince?

Black Mage: It's what he would have wanted...If he was me.

Red Mage: Here's dice in your eye!

Black Mage: The thing about calling upon "true guardians" is that it tends to take longer than a fatal mob stabbing.

Black Mage: Man, democracy sucks when only one guy is in charge.

Theif: Well, yeah. That was my first clue. You're a chancellor, they're always backstabbers scheming to take the throne from those who rightfully deserve it through accident of birth.

Fighter: That'll make you think twice before succumbing to gravity chump.

Garland: A meal that costs my dignity is still free.

Red Mage: I was born ready.
Fighter: I was born naked and screaming.

Red Mage: The earth orb! Lich must've kept it on him and when Fighter attacked, he--
Theif: Exposition later--Acquisition now!

Optimus Prime: Fightion! Megatron has stolen all the Energon!
Fighter: We knew this day would come.

Sarda "The Mage Who Did It": We used to have 36 hour days, but i keep them at 24 hours now just to make everyone hurry.

Fighter: You mean we are collecting the long lost engine cores for each of the Voltron Lions so we can become defenders of the universe?

Black Mage: I should have mentioned this at the beginning. I solve my problems through violence.

Theif: I find it interesting that both Batman and Lex Luthor refer to Superman as "The Alien."
Red Mage: It shows that they share an inherent distrust.
Fighter: Could you imagine? A Wayne-Luthor team up? I'm scared, hold me.
Red Mage: You join that organization and you're on the winning team.

Theif: Plus, Red Mage? You cannot tell him this, but he's not really a cross dresser and he has no daddy issues. I've just been messin' with his head.

Black Belt: Yeah, I sweat wisdom for breakfast.

Black Mage: "No, I don't want to learn a teleportation spell." I said. "That'd be one less doom spell," I said. Those are only my fragile hands. Step all over them, it's cool. Jerks.

Fighter: When you gotta do somethin' wrong, you gotta do it right!

Black Mage: And how are we supposed to do smart things? Just think them up?

Red Mage: Hey, BM, what makes your Hadoken work, anyway?
Black Mage: Promise not to tell anyone?
Red Mage: For the purposes of this conversation, yes, I do.
Black Mage: Love.
Red Mage: Love.
Black Mage: Love is a very powerful force. Even more so when it's focused into a coherent beam of destruction. Every time I cast Hadoken, it siphons away some of the love in the universe. I'm not sure how much, but I'm given to understand the divorce rate goes up with each blast.

Fighter: Oh, gravity, my nemesis. One day I'll, hey, a note.

Red Mage: Sigh. /bug: I have found a vendor who does not give the quest reward upon quest completion.
Vendor: Are you on the dope, son? Get out of here before I call the cops on you, punk.

Black Mage: Infinite nothingness sucks.

Red Mage: Let's rip causality a new one!

Theif:: You should check out this great new spell I legitimately invented just now.
Blast of Ice (a totally real spell)
Spell Components: Ice
Semantic Components: Throw (ice)
Red Mage: Sounds legitimate.

Black Mage: Hey, do we come to your tea party and slap your disgusting genitals out of your mother's mouth?

Black Mage: I just want to murder someone, don't weird it up.

Black Mage: What is this, some kinda study group of lame? Who takes notes? Seriously.

Red Mage: What's wrong with being thorough? I always go for the deepest probing action humanly possible.

Fighter: ...And then Jackie Chan was all "Fighter, only your blade can defeat Aku." 'Cause Cobra Commander had kidnapped--
Theif: Okay, Fighter? I asked if you wanted some lunch.
Fighter: I'm getting to that.

Red Mage: Lies are all I have, really....Lies and vaudeville.

Red Mage: That's us! We're heroes and totally not charlatans.

The Whirlpool

Whirlpool: ..HCTIB RUOF F TLA HSUP...A magic spell?

Stephen King

Roland Deschain (The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower): My first suggestion is that you fix that fucking stutter.

Roland Deschain (The Dark Tower V: Wolves of the Calla): All my life I've had the fastest hands, but at being good I was always too slow.

Narrator (The Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger & The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower): The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.

The Dark Tower (The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower): Cam-a-cam-mal, Pria-toi, Gran delah/White over Red, thus Gan wills ever/Good over Evil, this is the will of God

Tom Cullen (The Stand): The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want for nothing. He makes me lie down in the green pastures. He greases my head with oil. He gives me kung-fu in the face of my enemies. Amen.

Television & Movies

Duddits (Donnie Wahlburg in Dreamcatcher): Dude, I said, "un urm ill erl."

Barry Egan (Adam Sandler in Punch-Drunk Love): I have so much strength in me. You have no idea. I have a love in my life. It makes me stronger than anything you can imagine.

Zim (Invader Zim): Now to unleash screaming temporal doom!

Dr. Hunter S. Thompson: There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live and too rare to die.

Coach McGuirk (Home Movies): The other thing, Brenden, is cheating...is just another way of being prepared.
Brenden Small: Uh, ok.
Coach McGuirk: Basically, memorizing something is cheating...
Brenden Small: Right.
Coach McGuirk: ...you knew the answer before the test was given...
Brenden Small: Right.
Coach McGuirk: ...and so by taking the test and saying you learned that stuff...
Brenden Small: ...is cheating.
Coach McGuirk: ...it's cheating you're already cheating.
Brenden Small: Wow.
Coach McGuirk: Yeah. I mean, i'm discovering all this too, as i say it.

Coach McGuirk (Home Movies): I wasn't crying, Brenden, I was remembering...with tears.

Other Crap

LegendPst: I have quiet a question for an intellectual (sorta) such as yourself.

Kazuki: Thank you Serge, but our Princess is in another dimension!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on August 30, 2007, 03:01:47 pm
My neighbor

"why the hell isn't the sky blue....oh it is."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on September 02, 2007, 01:57:41 am
Various memorable quotes from my life:

Me:
"Chemistry is something I flunked due to that fluke of fate that stuck all the pyromaniacs in my class."
"There are few things more dangerous than a Dungeon Master with no clue where the Random Tables are."
"I stopped playing D&D because I was the only person actually trying to role-play. Everyone else was there for the munchkin routine."
"Giant robots.  It's not just an obsession.  It's a way of life."

Thomas 'Wanderer' Wilde:
"To live boldly is to incur risk."
"Have you ever considered a semi-professional career in *shutting the hell up*?"

Jarod Droke:
"I'm a Chrono Trigger fan.  But I'm a follower of Final Fantasy VII."
"I could, but I'd need Hero Hair Gel to do that."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on September 02, 2007, 02:19:12 am
"I stopped playing D&D because I was the only person actually trying to role-play. Everyone else was there for the munchkin routine."
Hey! I am a munchkin some times! (Looks at midget halfling lvl12 thief/lvl8 Assassin from version 2.0)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on September 02, 2007, 08:58:09 am
Quote from: Annie Dillard
How we spend our days, of course, is how we spend our lives.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on September 02, 2007, 05:15:11 pm
"God asks no man whether he will accept life.  That is not the choice.  You must take it.  The only choice is how."
-Henry Ward Beecher
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: nightmare975 on September 04, 2007, 08:23:31 pm
Someone said this on another forum about the game HAZE being a PS3 exclusive

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Nah, this is probably a "Timed Exclusive"... They can't make their money back if there are only 4 million people that own a PS3 and most of them aren't aware that it plays games.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on September 04, 2007, 11:14:57 pm
ZELL IS IN THE SPRINGTIME OF YOUTH

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GERONIMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

This is my house. But don't make yourselves too comfortable!

OHHHH YEAHHHHH!!

Here we go...Psyche yourself up, baby!

Time to GET IT ON!!

This train is awesome! A transcontinental railroad, baby!

We're on your team, Instructor. Let's kick some ass!

Hey, a key...NOT!

Why don't you try to show a little more passion...? You know, like me!

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on September 05, 2007, 10:19:08 pm
Out of a dream:
Kid: Oy!  I can't even have a bloody meal without you tryin' to ruin things!

Serge: I'm getting a little sick of this routine.
Harle: You and everyone elze.

Me: Kid.  The one person in this entire flippin' group that lacks the subtlety God gave the atomic bomb.

Me:  Ignore her.  She's just being cute.

From a comic I doodled up:
Me: Do you have a sudden feeling of impending doom?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Generality on September 11, 2007, 12:41:41 am
Here's a more or less random dump from my own quote text. A lot of them are not attributed, either because they are general sayings whose origins are long since lost, or because I simply forgot who said them. Some of them are my own quotes or my own version of a more popular quote.



Money is the wealth of a world that doesn't turn.

"That which we regard as a weakness in others may in fact be a weakness in ourselves."

A single man can do little, but lead a billion others.

Do not be afraid to fear.

Nothing is good simply because it's old.

Power is born when freedom marries responsibility.

To win a war, you must stop fighting. To end war, you need only stop fighting.

Before you write the word, contemplate its worth, for to breach the page is an irrevocable sin.

Happiness is a choice.

Evil cannot harm you unless you let it.

A tyrant has no more power than that which is given to him.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." -Siddhartha Gautama Buddha

"Treat others as you treat yourself."

"It is glorious to die for a cause, but moreso to live for one."

"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." -John 8:32

"We must either find a way or make one." -Hannibal

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - Mohandas 'Mahatma' Gandhi

"I got soul but I'm not a soldier." -The Killers

"Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword." -Matthew 26:52

"Tak does not demand that we think of Him, only that we think." -Terry Pratchett, Thud!

"Whoso would be a man must be a non-conformist." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

"He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster. For if you gaze for long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Friedrich Nietzsche

In memoriam: "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." -Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

"You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable." "Really? As if it was some kind of pink pill? No. Humans need fantasy to be human. To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape." -Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

There is a difference between power and strength.

The wages of sin is death but so is the salary of virtue. -Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad

"The good are innocent and create justice. The bad are guilty, which is why they invent mercy." -Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad

Just because something is impossible doesn't mean it can't be done.

"Either All Days Are Holy Or None Are." -Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay

Purity is weak. Diversity is strength. (Or, as Terry Pratchett put it, "Alloys are stronger.")

"Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." -Samuel 'Mark Twain' Clemens

"The Lord said, "if as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them." Genesis 11:6

"Your life is yours alone. Rise up and live it." -Terry Goodkind, Faith of the Fallen

Any government that angers enough people to overthrow it deserves to be overthrown.

Death may seek the living, but the living rarely seek death.

Rhetoric is what holds bad ideas together. It is the glue of idiocy.

The truest kind of victory is that which makes an enemy into a friend.

Life cannot be taken, only given.

Fate is determined by others, destiny by oneself.

Inside everyone is an angel yearning to be realized.

Space is the difference between a part and apart.

Everything is real.

Unite in diversity.

All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams

Whether you can observe a thing or not depends on the theory which you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. -Albert Einstein

To punish me for my contempt of authority, Fate has made me an authority myself. -Albert Einstein

This too shall pass.

Hate is not overcome by hate; by love alone is hate appeased. -Siddhartha Gautama Buddha

"Where you see obstacles, I see pathways."

"While you were busy taking sides, I was moving forward."

"Intelligence is knowing how to do something. Wisdom is knowing whether it should be done."

"Ye who are worse than blind: you see my face and look no further."

Who would rule must also serve.

"There are two kinds of courage: the courage to live and the courage to die." -Nuclear bombing survivor

"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself."

The hardest part is getting started.

Fate is retroactive. When looking at a past event, you can say it was fated, for there is no way to change that outcome, but for any future event, there is no determining its outcome. Fate has not yet been decided.

Belief is the resort of those who lack knowledge. Pity those who possess only faith.

"I hate quotes. Tell me what you know." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: rushingwind on September 11, 2007, 02:12:15 am
My three favorite quotes of all time:

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"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
--Mark Twain


Quote
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."
--Confucius


Quote
"Love is the emblem of eternity:
it confounds all notion of time,
effaces all memory of a beginning,
all fear of an end."
--Germaine De Stael
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Atlas on September 19, 2007, 03:22:47 am
Quote from: loki
Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, next to soccer.


I just thought this one was funny, soccer being the only sport I have ever been good at.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Chrono'99 on September 21, 2007, 02:15:30 pm
Time traveling forward is the same as time traveling backwards, except that your going forward.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on September 22, 2007, 01:16:43 am
Quote from: Virgil
Flectere si nequeo superos, Achaeronta movebo.

Quote from: John Keats
But it is easier to think what poetry should be, than to write it.

Oh, Keats...in his verse, I could just...dissolve into sweet rapture...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Atlas on September 23, 2007, 08:41:00 pm
For Children: You will need to know the difference between Friday and a fried egg. It's quite a simple difference, but an important one. Friday comes at the end of the week, whereas a fried egg comes out of a chicken. Like most things, of course, it isn't quite that simple. The fried egg isn't properly a fried egg until it's been put in a frying pan and fried. This is something you wouldn't do to a Friday, of course, though you might do it on a Friday. You can also fry eggs on a Thursday, if you like, or on a cooker. It's all rather complicated, but it makes a kind of sense if you think about it for a while.
-Douglas Adams
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on September 24, 2007, 02:54:31 pm
Terranigma:
Ark: When it comes to Ark, nothing is scary!  A ghost, a toast, a roast, bring 'em on!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kyronea on September 24, 2007, 10:53:49 pm
Quote from: Dr. Beverly Crusher
If there's nothing wrong with me...there must be something wrong with the Universe...

Quote from: Worf
I am NOT a merry man!
Star Trek is full of fun quotes...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Atlas on September 25, 2007, 02:08:53 am
Great sex is great, but bad sex is like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

    * Billy Joel
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on September 25, 2007, 06:26:31 am
Quote from: Me
The present hasn't been born yet.

No idea what I meant by that, I just thought of it randomly once. I'll likely use it in one of my projects.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on September 26, 2007, 02:37:08 am
Quote from: 'John Keats'
If my health would bear it, I could write a Poem which I have in my head, which would be a consolation for people in such a situation as mine.  I would show some one in Love as I am, with a person living in such Liberty as you do.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Atlas on September 26, 2007, 03:08:14 am
 It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realize how often they burst into flames.
-- Harry Hill

I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer.
-- Douglas Adams

The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit.
-- Somerset Maugham
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Burning Zeppelin on September 26, 2007, 09:36:42 am
The ability to poke fun at yourself subtlety is a serviceable substitute for proper wit.
-- Me

Nah just joking, good stuff :P
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Atlas on September 26, 2007, 11:47:03 am
lol


Well. I have an few epic quotes from a friend if I can find it...


" I'm just here for the all you can eat popcorn shrimp."
PureEvil_Fx 9/11/06

"You're traveling down the road in your canoe, you see a tree with a flat tire... how many pancakes does it take to build a doghouse in the rain??? The answer is three. Don't ask me, I just know."

PureEvil_Fx

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on September 26, 2007, 02:42:10 pm
Me: Wash, buddy, look.  You were taking that hill fast enough for the speed to be called relative.
Wash: So?
Me: ....Never mind.

Me [re: my friend Chase's part for our drama final]: There but for the grace of God go I.  I don't think I could handle dressing in drag.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on September 28, 2007, 07:44:52 pm
how could I forgot the greatest Lord J quote of them all?

Quote
Usted bastardo!!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on September 28, 2007, 10:48:26 pm
Another quote from the depths of my often deranged dreams:

Me [To Yumi Ishiyama (From Code Lyoko) and Harle]: That's the thing of it.  You can't just ignore a feeling of impending doom.  You have to turn around, just to make sure that what passes for reality isn't yanking your chain.  And pretty much every time you do, you've got a case of "I hate being right" going on.

Harle: Like now, for instance?

Me: Right.  (Turns around, and is confronted with some Large Monster From The Darkest Depths.)  Frack.  I hate being right.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on October 05, 2007, 11:49:39 am
HELL EXPLAINED BY CHEMISTRY STUDENT The following is an actual question
 given on a University of Washingtonchemistry mid term The answer by
 one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it
with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now
 havethe pleasure of enjoying it as well :

 Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic(absorbs heat)?
 Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's
 Law(gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or
 somevariant. One student, however, wrote the following:

 First, we need to know how
 the mass of Hell is changing in time.  So we
 need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the
 rateat which they are leaving.  I think that we can safely assume that oncea
 soul gets to Hell, it will not leave.  Therefore, no souls are
 leaving.  As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at
 thedifferent religions that exist in the world today Most of these religions
 state that if you are not a member of theirreligion, you will go to
 Hell.  Since there is more than one of these
 religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion,
 wecan project that all souls go to Hell.  With birth and death rates
 asthey are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to
 increaseexponentially.
 Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because
 Boyle'sLaw states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell
 tostay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls
 are added.  This gives two possibilities: 1.  If Hell is expanding at a
 slower rate than the rate at which soulsenter Hell, then the
 temperature and pressure in Hell will increaseuntil all Hell breaks loose.
 2.  If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls
 inHell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell
 freezesover. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa
 during my Freshman year
 that, "It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you," and
 takeinto account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number
 twomust be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has
 already
 frozen over.  The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has
 frozenover, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and
 istherefore, extinct......leaving only Heaven, thereby proving theexistence of a
 divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept
 shouting "Oh my God."
 
 THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Glennleo on October 05, 2007, 07:27:36 pm
Pretty old and funny joke. I appreciate ya posting it.

Would have been nice if you made it easier to read, instead of a wall of text though.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on October 05, 2007, 07:31:16 pm
Some time classics are good for the soul.

And the site this particular one is from had it in one single column, I added the breaks and Colons my self.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on October 08, 2007, 02:50:49 pm
Actual conversation a couple weekends back, when I was showing a friend this particular thread:

Jarod: Dude, that is cool.  That is such a great quote.  Where'd you find it?
Me: Off the cover of my Zone of the Enders anime, of all places.
Jarod: You're joking.
Me: Nope.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 14, 2007, 07:57:57 pm
Quote
Henri Ducard: But I know the rage that drives you. That impossible anger strangling the grief, until the memory of your loved one is just... poison in your veins. And one day, you catch yourself wishing the person you loved had never existed so you'd be spared your pain.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on October 16, 2007, 02:47:27 pm
"Common sense is not so common."
-French saying

"Big trees are hated by the wind."
-Japanese saying
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 17, 2007, 01:22:05 am
I have to log this. Digg is full of programming / engineering major people who have turned to the dark side that is Ron Paul (well...some of his policies, that is), but this is too good:

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The RIAA Attacks Usenet

Basking in glory after orchestrating a record punishment for a petty file-sharer in the US, the RIAA takes its legal campaign to the next level. Many may want newsgroups to stay under the radar but it's too late - major labels have filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against Usenet.com and it won't be going away.

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I heard the RIAA just sued independent musicians because they aren't giving the RIAA half of any money they make.

I heard the RIAA just sued a guy for walking down the street while whistling a tune!

I heard the RIAA once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on October 17, 2007, 02:39:17 pm
'A real time traveller would have seen that coming.'
-Nick, Schlock Mercenary (http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20050417.html)

Me: Coffee is life.  And if I don't have it, people gonna die.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Glennleo on October 23, 2007, 10:17:44 pm
Quote from: - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on October 25, 2007, 03:20:47 pm
I'm slightly surprised by the lack of Dr. Whoe quotes, so...

Quote
The Doctor: You were supposed to be dying.
Face of Boe: There are better things to do today. Dying can wait.

Quote
The Doctor: You want weapons? We're in a library! Books, best weapons in the world. This room is the greatest arsenal we could have. Arm yourself.

Quote
Reinette: One may tolerate a world of demons for the sake of an angel.

Quote
The Doctor: You lot. You spend all your time thinking about dying, like you're going to get killed by eggs, or beef, or global warming, or asteroids. But you never take time to imagine the impossible: that maybe you survive.

Quote
Charles Dickens: What the Shakespeare is going on here?

Quote
The Doctor: The thing is, Adam, time travel is like visiting Paris. You can't just read the guidebook, you've got to throw yourself in. Eat the food, use the wrong verbs, get charged double and end up kissing complete strangers... or is that just me?

Quote
The Doctor: Go! Now! Don't drop the banana!
Jack: Why not?!
The Doctor: Good source of potassium!

Quote
Jack: Last time I was sentenced to death, I ordered four hyper-vodkas for my breakfast. All a bit of a blur after that. Woke up in bed with both my executioners. Lovely couple. They stayed in touch. Can't say that about most executioners.

Quote
Rose: It was a better life. And I don't mean all the travelling, seeing aliens and spaceships and things, that don't matter. The Doctor showed me a better way of living your life. You know, he showed you too. You don't just give up. You don't just let things happen. You make a stand. You say no! You have the guts to do what's right when everyone else just runs away!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on October 26, 2007, 01:07:50 pm
From an Enter The Dragon script:

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It is difficult to associate these horrors with the proud civilizations that created them. Sparta, Rome, the knights of Europe, the Samurai... all shared the lone ideal: the honor of strength, because it is strength that makes other values possible. Nothing survives without it. Who knows what delicate wonders have died out of the world for want of the strnegth to survive?

Civilization's highest ideas--justice--could not exist without strong men to enforce it. Indeed, what is civilization but simply the honor of strong men? Today, the young are taught nothing of honor. The sense of life as epic, of life as big, of life as something for which one learns to fight--this is follish to them. To them, grandeur is irrelevant. The young no longer dream.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on October 28, 2007, 11:28:26 pm
Duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feather.
-Japanese maxim
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on November 13, 2007, 05:26:36 pm
"All right!  I get it!  It all makes sense now! You're the perfect person!"
"Finish that refrain, buster, and you're ground hash."
-Taken from one of my 'open scene' files (used as "testing grounds" for fics I write).

"I hate SNK bosses.  They don't know how to make an AI so they just make it really really powerful."
-Brian Reno, on SNK Bosses (and CvS2's 'God Rugal' in particular)

"Nah."
-PC's response to SHODAN's offer of immortality, System Shock 2.

"No thanks.  I've had enough of serving rouge AI's for a while.  Just ask SHODAN, if you can find her these days."
-My response in a Code Lyoko related RP to William's offer of having me join XANA.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on November 17, 2007, 02:52:09 am
Morte's Tale;

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Nameless One: "Morte... do you have a story to trade?"

Morte: "Me? Why do *I* have to tell a story?"

Nameless One: "Just tell a story, Morte."

Morte: "Fine, fine..."
"An elderly man was sitting alone on a dark path, right? He wasn't certain of which direction to go, and he'd forgotten both where he was traveling to and who he was. He'd sat down for a moment to rest his weary legs, and suddenly looked up to see an elderly woman before him. She grinned toothlessly and with a cackle, spoke: 'Now your *third* wish. What will it be?'"
"'Third wish?' The man was baffled. 'How can it be a third wish if I haven't had a first and second wish?'"
"'You've had two wishes already,' the hag said, 'but your second wish was for me to return everything to the way it was before you had made your first wish. That's why you remember nothing; because everything is the way it was before you made any wishes.' She cackled at the poor berk. 'So it is that you have one wish left.'"
"'All right,' said the man, "I don't believe this, but there's no harm in wishing. I wish to know who I am.'"
"'Funny,' said the old woman as she granted his wish and disappeared forever. 'That was your first wish.'"
---------------------------------------



Nordom's Tale;

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Nameless One: "Nordom: if you have a story to trade, please share it with Yves."

Nordom: "In the 13.7th Revolution, we were required to fix gear and cog sub-set thirty-one in the fifth ring of Mechanus. We removed the obstruction and the gear turned as per its normal speed. Upon completing our task, we were then returned to the Source."

Morte: "What in the hells was that, you stupid polygon?! That's the most boring story I ever heard!"

Nordom: "It was what took place. With embellishments, of course."

Morte: "Embellishments?"

Nordom: "I thought the return to Source was a particularly fitting image to close the tale."
---------------------------------------



Nameless One last tale

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Yves: Yves smiles pleasantly at you. "Greetings, again. I have come across a tale you might wish to hear. Shall I share it with you?"

Nameless One: "Yes, please."

Yves: "There was a man, a prestigious man, that for all his wealth and status was terribly unhappy. His daughter had perished, and what little was left of his life was shadowed by the gloom of her passing."
"So it happened that a former lover of the daughter came to him and spoke of her with meaning and feeling, restoring the light to his heart. And in so doing, both found two wholly different things, each of which would prove precious to them in separate ways."
"One found the spark of life returned to him, the gloom chased from his eyes and the corners of his mind."
"And the man, the lover, the petitioner found something else that was to prove more precious to him on his journey: regret."
"For it is regret that can change the nature of a man, it is said, though perhaps only the Gray Sisters know it for certain."
Yves nods at you, smiling. "I know not the meaning of this tale, but perhaps it will be of some use to you, in the future."
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I still say Planescape: Torment had some of the the best writing and storytelling in a game.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on November 17, 2007, 05:08:10 am
"I like reality.  It tastes like bread." -Anonymous

"GAWD, but it is GREAT to be loved." -Rache Bartmoss

"The original cyberpunk was Humphrey Bogart.  And he didn't even have any cyberware." -Mike Pondsmith (Cyberpunk v3.0)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 04, 2007, 12:57:32 am
Quote from: Richard Dawkins
My last vestige of 'hands off religion' respect disappeared in the smoke and choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the 'National Day of Prayer,' when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the first place.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on December 04, 2007, 11:31:46 am
Quote
One of the great tragedies of our time is this impression that has been created that science and religion have to be at war. - Francis Collins, head of the National Human Genome Research Institute and leader of the Human Genome Project

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The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer. - Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on December 04, 2007, 02:10:14 pm
'Better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven.'
-John Milton, Paradise Lost

'Yesterday, we obeyed kings and bent our necks to emperors.  Today we obey only the truth.'
-Kahlil Gibran

'If there were no god, it would be nessecary to invent him.'
-Voltaire
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on December 04, 2007, 03:00:06 pm
Quote from: Aeschylus
"He who in time long ago was great, throbbing with gigantic strength, shall be as if he never were, unspoken. He who followed him has found his master, and is gone. Cry aloud without fear the victory of Zeus, you will not have failed the truth: Zeus, who guided men to think, who has laid it down that wisdom comes alone through suffering. Still there drips in sleep against the heart grief of memory; against our pleasure we are temperate. From the gods who sit in grandeur grace comes somhow violent."
- the Chorus from Aeschylus' Agamemnon, 168-183
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 14, 2007, 06:01:06 pm
Quote from: Robert T. Kiyosaki
Failure defeats losers and inspires winners.

Quote from: Brutus, Julius Caesar
Under your pardon. You must note beside,
That we have tried the utmost of our friends,
Our legions are brim-full, our cause is ripe:
The enemy increaseth every day;
We, at the height, are ready to decline.
There is a tide in the affairs of men,
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
On such a full sea are we now afloat;
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose our ventures.

Quote from: Christopher Hitchens
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.

Quote from: Baron D'Holbach
If we go back to the beginning, we shall find that ignorance and fear created the gods; that fancy, enthusiasm, or deceit adorned them; that weakness worships them; that credulity preserves them and that custom, respect and tyranny support them in order to make the blindness of men serve their own interests. If the ignorance of nature gave birth to gods, the knowledge of nature is calculated to destroy them.

Quote from: John Blenn
When I was having dinner with Chuck [Norris] I did ask him: "If you and Bruce would be in a real fight to death, who would win?", and he said without thinking: "Bruce of course. Nobody can beat him".

Quote from: Clint Eastwood
God this stuff isn't getting to me - the shootings, the knifings, the beatings. Old ladies being bashed in the head for their social security checks. Nah that doesn't bother me. But you know what does bother me? You know what makes me really sick to my stomach? It's watching you stuff your face with those hotdogs! Nobody - I mean nobody puts ketchup on a hot dog!

Not the exact quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5JIpT4GkyM

(http://chronofan.com/Zeality/OCR/eastwood.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on December 21, 2007, 03:26:22 am
Quote from: Anon from the BBS
Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-American

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air     conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 22, 2007, 10:06:56 pm
Quote from: Bill Maher
A phenomenon I still don't understand. Rudy says if a Democrat is elected in 2008, we'll be at risk of another 9/11, because . . . he was mayor of New York when they attacked the World Trade Center the first time? His slogan should be "Not on my watch . . . again."

From his Dickheads of the Year (http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/17538811/dickheads_of_the_year) article at Rolling Stone. I think he's 13 for 13.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on December 23, 2007, 08:49:37 pm
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while I websurfed, weak and weary,
Over many a strange and spurious website of 'hot chicks galore',
While I clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning,
And my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour.
"'Tis not possible," I muttered, "give me back my cheap hardcore!"
Quoth the server, "404".

-- found it in Urban Dictionary's definitions for "404".
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: justin3009 on December 23, 2007, 09:23:08 pm
Ahaha...I remember hearing that somewhere.  I just find that to be pure genius xd
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 24, 2007, 11:08:14 pm
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Abandon your fear. Face forward. Advance. Don't give an inch. Retreat and you will age. Be afraid and you will die.

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j291/brownbl_photos/Ichigo_zangetsu.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on January 04, 2008, 03:41:16 pm
Quote from: Socrates, via Plato's Apology
When I left him, I reasoned thus with myself: I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know.

Quote from: Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time
Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis: you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory.

Quote from: Robert Heinlein, Glory Road
Logic is a feeble reed, friend. "Logic" proved that airplanes can't fly and that H-bombs won't work and that stones don't fall out of the sky. Logic is a way of saying that anything which didn't happen yesterday won't happen tomorrow.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Chrono'99 on January 04, 2008, 07:55:46 pm
Quote from: Henri de la Rochejaquelein
If I move forward, follow me. If I die, avenge me. If I move back, kill me.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on January 05, 2008, 05:08:52 am
Quote from: Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time
Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis: you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory.
I never liked this Idea. I personally believe that it that thinking that flaws modern Physics. Look at the overarching trait Of quantum mechanics, Sub-atomic particles can go/do anything, look at the double slit test or electron placement. All of these "prove" that there is only a probability its true. Every out come is existent until observe. Yes, this method does work and no contradiction present there self, but all it states is that: event A most likely Will happen, but it is possible that event B will happen in stead.
I think that humanity just screwed up and went with the wrong theory to prove because we used that same mentality that Hawking's has. That thought processes has after a long while brought us to dead end in advancement, best summarized by xkcd.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/string_theory.png)
*This works on pretty much every level.*
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on January 07, 2008, 11:11:07 am
Sorry, Kebrel, I didn't quite follow all that. You don't like the idea (which isn't Hawking's alone, mind you) that one cannot definitively prove a theory. That is, a scientific theory must always remain a theory and never cross over that great divide into absolute Truth. This is a key foundation of the scientific method; any theory must be discarded the moment that verifiable evidence suggests that it isn't accurate. If this were not the case, then we could well happen upon situations like Galileo was part of; astronomers attempted to preserve the old (Greek) theory in the face of contradictory observations. In that instance, the theory was given a higher standing than the evidence. Mind it, it isn't that the theory never correctly predicted the physical reality, but with more sensitive measurements its flaws became apparent.

As for String Theory, since you bring it up, it was always a dead theory for scientists because at no point did it meet basic scientific requirements (that is, at no point could the theory be tested). If physicists had been more concerned with what Hawking stressed in that passage (essentially, rigorous adherence to the scientific method), String Theory would have been discarded quite some time ago (only now is it leaving fashionable circles).

Advancement stops as soon as one believes one has reached a destination; if that destination can never be reached, logically advancement would never stop. Of course, that paradigm might shift someday as well.

But perhaps I misunderstood you somewhere?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on January 08, 2008, 09:33:38 pm
Its okay I was half asleep when I wrote that.

In short, quantum mechanics has no room for failure. I know understand what you say and every thing is technically a theory, not law. The problem with QM though is it states EVERYTHING can happen how ever minute the chance is. There is no exception can disprove it because it encompasses all outcomes. Hey I don't thinks is completely trash or any thing it heck'a accurate, just need a quick re-haul.

I understand the topic pretty well but not perfectlyin my mind(vary modest of me :D), and once again I am typing this late so did that make sense?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on January 09, 2008, 03:19:16 am
So you're critcising it because it covers all situations?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on January 09, 2008, 04:37:55 pm
kinda, to progress in science contradiction or anomaoly. QM predictes all outcomes. If a electron for example moved or behaved strongly it could be dismissed, because QM states that there was a chance that could happen. I think where on the right track just sort of mess up. But hey it happens all the time.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on February 13, 2008, 06:21:18 pm
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Look to this day!
For it is life, the very life of life.
In its brief course
Lie all the truths and realities of existence:

The joy of growth,
The splendor of action,
The glory of power.

For yesterday is but a memory,
And tomorrow is only a vision;
But today, well lived, makes every yesterday
a memory of happiness,
And every tomorrow a vision of hope.
Look well, therefore, to this day!
-- Kālidāsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81lid%C4%81sa)

Carpe diem!
Live for the moment, the day, for next year, for decades
Live for death and for misery
Live for joy and for love
Live for the good times and the bad

Look upon yesterday without shame, upon tomorrow without worry
Your life is but a story
Its opening incomplete
Its ending unwritten
So seize the pen
And write the ending
And write what in years shall become the opening
Weave a tale of beauty, of sorrow, of passion, of disenchantment,

Leave no loose ends,
No stone unturned
For in lives of infinite possibilities,
In a universe of boundless opportunities,
We must leave a story of closure, fulfillment

So when you finally drop the pen,
And your hand is firmly closed
Let it be around a loved one's
Ensure they'll never forget
You lived a life to be proud of
A life of no regret

(http://www.seopher.com/images/universe.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 28, 2008, 11:34:10 pm
This guy's unhinged anger and readiness to fight is inspiring (from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/28/05023/3459/445/465359 ):

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I SAY: Bring it on you mutherfuckers (6+ / 0-)

the people are taking this country back and there ain't shit these assholes can do to stop it

PS: I just signed up for 24 hours of Canvassing (4 Friday, 8 Saturday, 8 Sunday, 4 Monday) and 12 hours of Poll Duty + Precinct Convention Chair in my own District in Houston Texas....

Let the Status Quo Squirm, they have no fucking clue what's coming at them... the sleeping giant is awakening and we're mad as fucking hell and we will bury them

(http://www.russiablog.org/Krushchev-boot.jpg)

WE WILL BURY THEM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EQKd4Rgdwpo
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on March 03, 2008, 01:28:33 pm
Quote from: The Sound of Drums, Dr. Who
The Doctor: What was his policy? What did he stand for?
Martha: I dunno, he always sounded... good. Like you could trust him. Just nice. He spoke about... I can't really remember, but it was good. Just the sound of his voice.

Quote from: The Age of Steel, Dr. Who
The Doctor: The human race. For such an intelligent lot, you aren't half susceptible. Give anyone a chance to take control, and you submit! Sometimes I think you like it. An easy life.

Quote from:  C.S. Lewis, Surprised by Joy
Enough had been thought, and said, and felt, and imagined. It was about time that something should be done.

Quote from:  C.S. Lewis, On Living in an Atomic Age
If we are going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things -- praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts -- not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They might break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on March 03, 2008, 01:41:21 pm
Here's one from Carl Sagan, courtesy of Cosmos:

"Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong."

Possibly referring to Ptolemy; I forget exactly where it was used.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on March 18, 2008, 03:30:11 pm
"The species do not grow in perfection: the weak prevail over the strong again and again, for they are the great majority — and they are also more intelligent."
-Wilhelm Friedrich Nietzche
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: neo-fusion on April 13, 2008, 11:07:17 pm
Cid from ff7

"$#@@"

or

Ferris Bueller

"Life moves pretty fast---- you just might miss it."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on April 14, 2008, 02:40:48 am
oh god.

i forgot all about serge's ass.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 15, 2008, 11:10:52 am
That is quite possibly the funniest quote I've heard in ages, Kebrel
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Silver on April 23, 2008, 04:17:53 pm
"Oh, and fun fact: Kefka stole Strong Bad's computer."
-Yours truly, describing the single most bizzare fan-made Homestar Runner game ever (http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/Thy_STiNKO-MAN_2003%21) to a friend.

"Goddammed weeflerunners.  Give 'em a couple off-the-shelf hacking tools, and they think they're the stars of a William Gibson novel."
-Me, in response to a friend being threatened by a would-be hacker.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 25, 2008, 07:01:07 am
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“Anything worth doing is worth doing badly.”

~ Martha Beck

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“How we spend our days, of course, is how we spend our lives.”

~ Annie Dillard

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“You have at your command the wisdom of the ages.”

~ Fortune Cookie

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“Other evils there are that may come.... Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succor of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.”

~ Gandalf the White

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“The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.”

~ Gloria Steinem

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“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.”

~ Thomas Jefferson

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“Progress is slow because nothing is ever invented and perfected at the same time.”

~ ?

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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

~ Steven Weinberg

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Set your phasers to Miss.

~ ?

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Infamously, WordPerfect used F3 instead of F1 for Help, F1 instead of Esc for Cancel, and Esc for Repeat.

~ ?

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How baffling it was that even the most cunning and clever people would frequently see only what they wanted to see, and would rarely look beyond the thinnest of facades. Or they would ignore reality, dismissing it as the facade. And then, when their whole world fell to pieces and they were on their knees slitting their bellies or cutting their throats, or cast out into the freezing world, they would tear their topknots or rend their clothes and bewail their karma, blaming gods or kami or luck or their lord or husbands or vassals -- anything or anyone -- but never themselves. So very strange.

~ ?

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“A wise heart accepts commands.”

~ Ancient Eastern Wisdom

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“It’d be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that.”

~ François in Paris
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on April 28, 2008, 02:07:32 am
Quote from: Benjamin Franklin
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 29, 2008, 10:47:37 am
Quote from: Benjamin Franklin
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

While a wonderful quote, ol Poor Richard seemed to have a rather bleak outlook on government. After all, how does giving up our liberty to construct privately owned and maintained veins of commerce (aka, interstate roads) in favor of the security of knowing that all such roads will be of a set quality harm either our liberty or that security?

Quote from: Jayne
You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here!

Quote from: Mal
My work's illegal, but at least it's honest.

Quote from: Mal
Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he's right with God.

Quote from: Wash
Can I make a suggestion that doesn't involve killing anybody, or is this the wrong crowd?

Quote from: Mal
This report is maybe twelve years old. Parliament buried it, and it stayed buried till River dug it up. This is what they feared she knew. And they were right to fear because there’s a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it, too. They’re gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people. You all got on this boat for different reasons, but you all come to the same place. So now I’m asking more of you than I have before. Maybe all. Sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they’ll swing back to the belief that they can make people…better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave.

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wuh duh ma huh ta duh fung-kwong duh wai-shung doh
Translation: holy mother of god and all her wacky nephews
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on April 30, 2008, 03:18:11 am
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But Prophet's guile just ends, shouldnt there be more?

Quote from: jsondag2
There is...chrono trigger
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: VincentGAU8 on April 30, 2008, 10:42:42 am
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"They made you a god... When they didn't own the heavens..."

~Paul Janson, from Robert Ludlum's The Janson Directive

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"You have just killed another living thing Pasha..."

General Pavel Leonidovich Alekseyev, from Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising

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"Carpe Diem, seize the day...
Carpe mundum, seize the world..."

Alan Demarest/Peter Novak, The Janson Directive
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 30, 2008, 11:49:15 am
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"Do we have a duty to feed the world?
Yes.
Why?
Because we can."

~Orson Scott Card
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: deviant_ambition on April 30, 2008, 11:44:30 pm
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"Falling in love is an irrational thing. 
Even just by falling in love with someone, you'll hurt people, and you'll get hurt yourself. 
To be truly in love with someone, you have to be ready to put your life at risk."

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"I only wish that ordinary people had an unlimited capacity for doing harm; then they might have an unlimited power for doing good."
~Socrates


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"In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity is the vital thing."
~ Oscar Wilde

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"College is fun as long as you don't die."
~ L

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"Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for."
~Socrates

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"Remember that half the people you know are below average."

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"By all means marry. If you get a good wife, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher and that is a good thing for any man."
~ Socrates

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"If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you."
~Bruce Lee

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"Time is like a sword.  If you don't cut with it, it will cut you."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Beeyo on May 01, 2008, 05:10:17 am
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Albert Einstein

"So, is there any tread left on the tires, or is it kind of like throwing a hotdog down a hallway?"
Stewie Griffin talking to a hooker about her vagina
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on May 02, 2008, 03:32:11 am
Quote from: Kerrigan
You see at this point, I'm pretty much the Queen Bitch of the Universe, and not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.

Quote from: Zeratul
Stay thy hand, Judicator. The stewards of Tassadar shall not fall while the Dark Templar live. Call off your guards and stand aside, and you may yet live to see another moonrise.

Quote from: Tassadar
Remember us, Executor. Remember what was done here today. May Adun watch over you.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on May 05, 2008, 03:07:37 am
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Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon
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People who don't Think probably don't have Brains; rather, they have grey fluff that's blown into their heads by mistake.
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Don't underestimate the value of Doing Nothing, of just going along, listening to all the things you can't hear, and not bothering.
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You can't stay in your corner of the Forest waiting for others to come to you. You have to go to them sometimes.
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It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?"
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If you live to be 100, I hope I live to be 100 minus 1 day, so I never have to live without you.
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Those who are clever, who have a Brain, never understand anything.
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Before beginning a Hunt, it is wise to ask someone what you are looking for before you begin looking for it.
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Pooh looked at his two paws. He knew that one of them was the right, and he knew that when you had decided which one of them was the right, then the other was the left, but he never could remember how to begin
-Winnie The Pooh
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: nightmare975 on May 06, 2008, 12:53:45 am
Quote from: Racer X
I have this thing about losing, I don't do it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 06, 2008, 10:46:39 pm
Quote from: larsone86
Real story: Obama's international diplomacy skills may bring ceasefire to African region, and maintain oil production.

MSM headline: "African militants hold Obama in high esteem."

TV news talking point: "Do we really want a President who is respected by terrorists and militants?" [next to photo of Obama in traditional African clothing]

Clinton: “Obama is weak because he talks to our enemies, when I am strong because I threaten to obliterate them with nuclear bombs.”

Voter: “I am voting for Clinton because I heard on the news that how Obama is closely aligned with African militants. Also I think Hillary is a fighter.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on May 07, 2008, 12:02:33 am
(http://www.elitetrading.de/forum/attachments/ressourcen/3005d1201908390-traurig_aktienpower_fan_club-blank_picard_facepalm.jpg)
At fellow U.S. population.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: BROJ on May 07, 2008, 12:49:08 am
Quote from: larsone86
Real story: Obama's international diplomacy skills may bring ceasefire to African region, and maintain oil production.

MSM headline: "African militants hold Obama in high esteem."

TV news talking point: "Do we really want a President who is respected by terrorists and militants?" [next to photo of Obama in traditional African clothing]

Clinton: “Obama is weak because he talks to our enemies, when I am strong because I threaten to obliterate them with nuclear bombs.”

Voter: “I am voting for Clinton because I heard on the news that how Obama is closely aligned with African militants. Also I think Hillary is a fighter.”
... yep.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: BROJ on May 14, 2008, 08:35:02 pm
Quote from:
Mahatma Ghandi
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.

Quote from: Henry David Thoreau
Things do not change: we do

Quote from: William Shakespeare
To save something that might remind me of you, I would have to admit that I could forget you.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: SolidSnake_8608 on May 21, 2008, 12:10:00 pm
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -Stephen Roberts
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on May 28, 2008, 08:41:03 am
Quote from: Lord J Esq
How often do writers invoke a parenthesis, only to leave its mate forgotten in the torrent of words that follows! We live in the realm where all of those unborn closing parentheses congregate. We are they. Each of us is the tail end of a thought so incidental that it could not even exist in the writer's own world without being sheltered, by us, yet, through authorial negligence and our own ensuing absence, that world has been turned upside down as parenthetical thoughts leech into the environment, corrupting all things. We, we markers of the fantastical, can only gape at the pandemonium. Each of us has a place we shall never reach. Each of us belongs to something from which we are forgotten. Aware that nature has played some cruel trick on us, but only dimly, we seek out our beginning, and we seek out the purpose that gave rise to us, but what would we do even if we found them? They are written, and we are not. We are free radicals, a realm of closing parentheses who once could have brought order to the cosmos, but not do not even exist:)
No interviews, please! There is much work to be done if we are to restore sanity to the cosmos.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Patchy on May 28, 2008, 01:28:20 pm
Quote from: Niccolo Machiavelli
It is well that, when the act accuses him, the result should excuse him; and when the result is good, as in the case of Romulus [killing his brother Remus to save Rome], it will always absolve him from blame. For he is to be reprehended who commits violence for the purpose of destroying, and not he who employs it for beneficent purposes

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Si vis pacem, parra bellum.

If you wish for peace, prepare for war
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on June 02, 2008, 05:40:10 pm
Quote from: The Havamal
At eve praise the day,
when burned down, a torch,
a wife when bedded, a weapon when tried,
ice when over it, ale when 'tis drunk.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Satoh on June 16, 2008, 09:13:35 am
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Erarre humanum est.
~Doctus and probably someone more important...

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Having failed to succeed, you have in fact found success at failure.
~Someone... maybe? might have made it up... but I say it a lot...?

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With this sword I have slain 1000 demons... more or less.
~Swordmage: Makai Senki Disgaea

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This engine is so weak it couldn't pull a greasy string out of a duck's ass.
~Any given redneck in my area...

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"No, the answer is, no. It can't be done."

"Then what's this?"

"...Damn you."
~I forget...

Quote
Law of inverse proportional gravity:
Any object that becomes airborn is immediately very fast. The larger and more convoluted the object is, the higher, faster and farther it travels while airborn. Moutains are the fastest natural structure.
~One of many anime law lists...

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Instead of putting an electrical device that, when broken, automatically opens the prison doors on tha inside of the room... I designed MY fortress with a device that fuzes the door shut and docks the air to the room when tampered with.
~The one smart Evil Overlord

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Furby is not allowed at classified military conferences.
~An actual enforced law under penalty of courtmartial.

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I'll get you for this! I'll do... something... really... not to your liking!! eventually...maybe.
~I forget, but it's likely from Jhonen Vasquez's work.

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CAUTION: Flux capacitor will not engage,
Low blinker fluid,
Hyperdrive rattles above 560321 km/h
~an actual airline malfunction report

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There's 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't
~some guy at some point...

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"Listening to you is like bathing in acid while chewing on tin foil, masturbating with sandpaper, cleaning your ears out with a mace, washing your hands with chalk, wearing contacts made from onion skins, and trying to defeat the plastic bag on your head in a sucking contest."

"I--"

"I wasn't finished, that was just the intro to my 13 page essay on the subject."
~one of my friends @ a guy in my modeling class

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Life's a bitch, then you die.
~My grandfather, who has had better days.

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"Just because he's black doesn't mean you have to make a note of it. Why do you have to bring race into it if you're just gonna say you aren't racist!?"

"Ok... here, you try and describe me to someone who's never met me, without looking at me, while about 400 people with brown hair, a slight bit of weight, and not very much height walk by... and do it without mentioning my glasses."

"..."
~conversation from my middleschool days...

That brings me to my next one...

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The only people who really care about racism are usually so 'politically correct' that the mention of a race, any race, is considered an offence. So how is that different?
~Another one of my friends

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Damn you Windows updates, I like the crappy way my crappy stuff works now, crappily... there's no telling what will happen when you try to crap on it some more.
~almost every windows user...

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Damn you windows update... damn you.
~the truncated "I'm too tired" versionof the former
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 16, 2008, 09:23:22 am
Quote
"Just because he's black doesn't mean you have to make a note of it. Why do you have to bring race into it if you're just gonna say you aren't racist!?"

"Ok... here, you try and describe me to someone who's never met me, without looking at me, while about 400 people with brown hair, a slight bit of weight, and not very much height walk by... and do it without mentioning my glasses."

"..."

I've actually had (pretty much) this exact same conversation on more than one occasion.  Always ends the same way: the awkward silence of defeat.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on June 16, 2008, 11:23:16 am
I've actually had (pretty much) this exact same conversation on more than one occasion.  Always ends the same way: the awkward silence of defeat.

Actually, it is incredibly easy to describe a person without referencing race (or glasses). What do you think Science Fiction and Fantasy authors do? It isn't very useful to describe a character in, say, LORT as being Arab if there are no Arabs in that world (and no Arabia). Or to describe someone as Asian if Earth doesn't even exist anymore (and thus, no Asia) in the fictional world of, say, Dune. Physical characteristics, like glasses, are useful as giving individuals a physical trait to clue in on, but they aren’t needed.

Of course, one could also easily describe personality characteristics rather than physical or social characteristics. However, to be fair, that only works if you want the person to be identifiable on acquaintance, rather than on appearance.

There are numerous ways of having that conversation without ending in the awkward silence of defeat. You just need to argue with more creative people ;)

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The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares.
Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about?
The Doctor: Me!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Satoh on June 16, 2008, 11:46:59 am
If there was creativity or intelligence in my middle school, I don't think it would have been an issue...

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"How did you fool that gorilla?"

"Simple, I made a sound like a banana"

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Salad a firm's own make; limpid red beet soup with cheesy dumplings in the form of a finger; roasted duck let loose; beef rashers beaten up in the country people's fashion.

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The flattening of underwear with plessure is the job of the chambermaid

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We invite you to take advantage of the chambermaid

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You are welcome to visit the cemetery where famous Russian and Soviet composers, artists and writers are buried daily except Thursday

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You are welcome to visit the cemetery where famous Russian and Soviet composers, artists and writers are buried daily except Thursday

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Not to perambulate the corridors in the hours of repose in boots of ascension.

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Is forbidden to steal hotel towels please. If you are not a person to do such thing is please not to read notis.

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It is strictly forbidden on our Black Forest camping site that people of different sex, for instance, men and women, live  together in one tent unless they are married with each other for that purpose.

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Please do not feed the animals. If you have any suitable foods, give it to the guard on duty.

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When passenger of foot heave in sight, tootle the horn. Trumpet him melodiously at first, but if he still obstacles your passage, then tootle him with vigor.

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It is forbidden to enter a woman even a foreigner if dressed as a man

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WE EXCHANGE ANYTHING - BICYCLES, WASHING MACHINES, ETC. WHY NOT BRING YOUR WIFE ALONG AND GET A WONDERFUL BARGAIN?

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IF YOU CANNOT READ, THIS LEAFLET WILL TELL YOU HOW TO GET LESSONS

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WE CAN REPAIR ANYTHING. (PLEASE KNOCK HARD ON THE DOOR - THE BELL
DOESN'T WORK)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 23, 2008, 09:28:52 am
Quote
Revives? Crono don't need no stinkin' revives...!

~Our Friendly Neighborhood Translanka
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on June 23, 2008, 10:23:40 am
Quote
"Aren't you that fuckfaced kid who barely ever talks?"

"Yeah?"

"Got any pussy lately?"

"I just got $500 for my artwork."

"Shutup queer...

Paper or Plastic?"


Conversation with a Senior student from my high school yesterday at Wal Mart.

OH SNAP.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on June 29, 2008, 11:55:19 pm
Quote from: fark
topic:"Very cool new Discovery Channel commercial"

eqtworld: You materialists make me sick "the world" is nothing compared to the awesomeness of our Lord and Savior; Jesus Christ. /My God is an awesome God, he reigns from heaven above...

Poo_Fight: My God is a mediocre God. He's prone to forgetfulness and fits of smiting.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on June 30, 2008, 11:21:58 am
Quote from: Facebook

10:04 PM: Grant has added the song Intergalactic by The Beastie Boys to her profile

...

10:06 PM: Grant is wondering why Facebook thnks he's a girl
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on July 02, 2008, 01:21:42 pm
Quote from: fark
topic:"Very cool new Discovery Channel commercial"

eqtworld: You materialists make me sick "the world" is nothing compared to the awesomeness of our Lord and Savior; Jesus Christ. /My God is an awesome God, he reigns from heaven above...

Poo_Fight: My God is a mediocre God. He's prone to forgetfulness and fits of smiting.

Man kind has never conceived of a god who could even approach the beauty and glory of the natural universe we observe around us, and that we ourselves are a part of. Boom de yada!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 05, 2008, 09:31:52 pm
Quote from: Richard Branson
I believe in benevolent dictatorship provided I am the dictator.

Boy, has that ever been my philosophy...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: deviant_ambition on July 06, 2008, 04:35:59 pm
Quote
“Shock me, shock me, shock me with that deviant behavior.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on July 06, 2008, 05:30:06 pm
Quote from: John Mccain
"I have developed a plan to counter gas prices. If anyone can create an alternatively powered engine that leap-frogs the Hybrid Car, you will be awarded $3,000,000

That's exactly what this nation needs. Oh thank you, Wise John Mccain, for doing the exact opposite of your job.


(The quote is paraphrased, more or less.)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on July 07, 2008, 06:38:52 am
Quote from: wikipedia link="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999..."
Of the elementary proofs, multiplying 0.333… = 1⁄3 by 3 is apparently a successful strategy for convincing reluctant students that 0.999… = 1. Still, when confronted with the conflict between their belief of the first equation and their disbelief of the second, some students either begin to disbelieve the first equation or just simply become frustrated.

That applies to pretty much everything. Either it works, or it pisses them off.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on July 07, 2008, 03:15:47 pm
Quote from: John Mccain
"I have developed a plan to counter gas prices. If anyone can create an alternatively powered engine that leap-frogs the Hybrid Car, you will be awarded $3,000,000
That's exactly what this nation needs. Oh thank you, Wise John Mccain, for doing the exact opposite of your job.

Since he is a senator, his job is to vote in the senate. Thus, the exact opposite of his job is to not vote. Now, considering that he is currently running for president, I expect his voting record (as a percentage of votes he has been present for) has been lower since he started running, but that is perfectly in line with most presidental candidates. However, by running for president, any senator is then almost inherently doing the exact opposite of their job (this would include Obama as well).

Or perhaps you meant to talk about his job in a more general sense, as a part of the government. In that case, the job of the government is generally to help lead a society/nation. Leaders are notably not doers; they get other people to work towards a common goal. In which case, McCain is doing exactly what his job (as a part of a government so defined) entails and what we should expect a member of the government to do; attempt to lead people towards a common goal (in this case, developing alternative fuel sources to the level where they are practically implementable on a large scale).

So color me confused; what, exactly, is the basis for stating that McCain is behaving in a manner exactly opposite to his job?

Quote from: John Wesley
Permit me, sir, to give you one piece of advice. Be not so positive; especially with regard to things which are neither easy nor necessary to be determined. When I was young I was sure of everything. In a few years, having been mistaken a thousand times, I was not half so sure of most things as I was before. At present, I am hardly sure of anything...

Quote from: Erasmus
I have turned my entire attention to Greek. The first thing I shall do, as soon as the money arrives, is to buy some Greek authors; after that, I shall buy clothes.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on July 07, 2008, 03:34:08 pm
Now that I think about it, my post might have conflicted with democracy itself.

I meant as in he's running for president, yet he's relying on the US populus too much. Then again, in a way that's how America has been running it's entire life...

Yeah, I screwed myself over on that one.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 07, 2008, 04:47:41 pm
Quote from: Lord J Esq
Democracy is Bullshit - I haven't said that in a while, so I figured I might clear up any doubts as to whether or not I still feel that way.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on July 07, 2008, 05:20:44 pm
Now that I think about it, my post might have conflicted with democracy itself.

I meant as in he's running for president, yet he's relying on the US populus too much. Then again, in a way that's how America has been running it's entire life...

Thanks for clearing the matter up; I was genuinely confused as to what you meant, but now that you've explained it I think I understand what you were getting at.

By "relying on the US populous" do you mean that he is trusting them too much to have the ability to develop (in this case) alternate fuel cars? Or do you mean that he is following the populous opinion too much (in this case, alternate fuel being a concern of the populous primarily out of concern over their pocketbook, rather than it being a perceived  good)? (or something else I didn't think of?)

And since we are on the topic of democracy and governments:

Quote from: C.S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on July 09, 2008, 05:58:02 pm
Quote
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

~ Steven Weinberg

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Weinberg's statement is true as far as it goes, but it is not the whole truth. To make it the whole truth, we must add an additional clause: "And for bad people to do good things—that takes religion."

~ Freeman Dyson

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"Heretics who question the dogmas are needed... I am proud to be a heretic. The world always needs heretics to challenge the prevailing orthodoxies."

~ Freeman Dyson
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 17, 2008, 11:04:16 pm
BATMAN HAS NO LIMITS
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Azure on July 18, 2008, 01:23:39 am
BATMAN HAS NO LIMITS
d
Wonder what movie you went to see/are planing to see x
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on July 18, 2008, 11:13:36 pm
BATMAN HAS NO LIMITS
d
Wonder what movie you went to see/are planing to see x



OMFG, I saw that today. Best. Batman. Movie. EVER!


Quote from: The Joker
You'll see... When the cards are on the table, these civilized people... Will eat eachother.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on July 20, 2008, 03:13:16 pm
Picard is the ambassador of humanity. If someone like him were to arise in the near future, I wish I would be able to support and follow that individual, I wish I could live that long to see it happen and many other things...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Insane on July 20, 2008, 03:31:45 pm
Quote from: Neil Cicerga or however you spell it.
TV says donuts are high in fat, Kazoo! 'Found a hobo in my room..It's Princess Leia, The Yodel of Life, give me my sweater back or I'll play the guitar!!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Atlas on July 23, 2008, 01:52:43 am
After a good, successful torture, she was as happy as I ever saw her. I guess everyone needed a hobby.
~Laurell K. Hamilton (In a book)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MagilsugaM on July 23, 2008, 03:50:48 am
That's it, Snake. Hurt me more. Make me feel alive again.
                                                                                    ~ Gray Fox
Kuwabara, Kuwabara.
                                                                                    ~ Colonel Volgin

More!!!

You want to save?

You doubt my power?

Snake!

Liquid!

I was the one who killed your parents

How dare you I'm an artist

It does look good on me though

Who is that?

Snake, this is a non smoking flight

This is Rat Patrol Team 01

Akiba!
                                                  ~ MGS4
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Azure on July 24, 2008, 04:41:40 pm
BATMAN HAS NO LIMITS
d
Wonder what movie you went to see/are planing to see x



OMFG, I saw that today. Best. Batman. Movie. EVER!


Quote from: The Joker
You'll see... When the cards are on the table, these civilized people... Will eat eachother.

And there's always :
Quote from: The Joker
Why so serious?!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 31, 2008, 01:59:08 am
Quote from: Brandon Lee
Eat--or die!
(his philosophy of life!)

Quote from: Brandon Lee
I'm really interested in that point you reach w hen you actually fail from exhaustion at something, whether it's weight training or cardiovascular exercise. I'm interested in seeing just how much of that is a physical point and how much of it is a mental point. When you reach that point where you say, "Oh, that's it! I can't do another one," if you actually challenge yourself with something like "All right, there's a man standing with a gun to your mother's head, and he says, 'If you do one more' of whatever it is you're doing--say, jump rope for one more minute--'I won't pull the trigger, otherwise I will'"--see if you can do it! You've got to try and challenge yourself this way. I find that you have to amke it into a game at some  level in order to continue doing whatever foolish thing it is you're doing that's causing you so much discomfort!

Quote from: Brandon Lee
Well, i would say this: when you move down the road towards mastery of the martial arts—and you know, you are constantly moving down that road—you end up coming up against these barriers inside yourself that will attempt to stop you from continuing to pursue hte mastery of the martial arts. And these barriers are such things as when you come up against your own limitations, when you come up against the limitations f your will, your ability, your natural ability, your courage, how you deal with success—and failure as well, for that matter. And as you overcome each one of these barriers, you end up learning something about yourself. And sometimes, the things you learn a bout yourself can, to the individual, seem to convey a certain spiritual sense along with them.

...It's funny, every time you come up against a true barrier to your progress, you are a child again. And it's a very interesting experience to be reduced, once again, to the level of knowing nothing about what you're doing. I think there's a lot of room for learning and growth when that happens—if you face it head on and don't choose to say, "Ah, screw that! I'm going to do something else!"

We reduce ourselves at a certain point in our lives to kind of solely pursuing things that we already kno how to do. You know, because you don't want to have that experience of not knowing what you're doing and being an amateur again. And I think that's rather unfortunate. It's so much interesting and usually illuminating to put yourself in a  situation where you don't know what's going to happen, than to do something again that you already know essentially what the outcome will be within three or four points either way.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on August 06, 2008, 03:29:09 pm
Quote from: Me; date=1218068760
Science and logic are tools for inferring and deducing the truth. Religion is a tool to make up one’s own truth!

That sounds quite familiar; I wonder if it's a slightly different reiteration of some other quote I have come cross.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kebrel on August 25, 2008, 09:04:17 pm
Mom: Kennedy and the Chappaquiddick murder incident, is a good example of forgive and forget.
Younger brother: JFK killed a Indian!?!(was completely serious)
Me/Mom: *facepalm*
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 30, 2008, 04:01:56 am
Woodrow Wilson

Quote
Of course, like every other man of intelligence and education I do believe in organic evolution. It surprises me that at this late date such questions should be raised.

Letter to Winterton C. Curtis (29 August 1922)

Hah. If only someone could have told him that by 2022, it'd still be raised.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 02, 2008, 02:38:20 pm
Quote from: John Locke
False and doubtful positions, relied upon as unquestionable maxims, keep those who build on them in the dark from truth. Such are usually the prejudices imbibed from education, party, reverence, fashion interest, et cetera.

Quote from: John Locke
For where is the man that has incontestable evidence of the truth of all that he holds, or of the falsehood of all he condemns; or can say that he has examined to the bottom all his own, or other men's opinions? The necessity of believing without knowledge, nay often upon very slight grounds, in this fleeting state of action and blindness we are in, should make us more busy and careful to inform ourselves than constrain others. At least, those who have not thoroughly examined to the bottom all their own tenets, must confess they are unfit to prescribe to others; and are unreasonable in imposing that as truth on other men's belief, which they themselves have not searched into, nor weighed the arguments of probability, on which they should receive or reject it. Those who have fairly and truly examined, and are thereby got past doubt in all the doctrines they profess and govern themselves by, would have a juster pretence to require others to follow them: but these are so few in number, and find so little reason to be magisterial in their opinions, that nothing insolent and imperious is to be expected from them: and there is reason to think, that, if men were better instructed themselves, they would be less imposing on others.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on September 02, 2008, 05:39:58 pm
I see there is another John Locke fan amongst us...

Quote
Earthly minds, like mud walls, resist the strongest batteries; and though, perhaps, somethimes the force of a clear argument may make some impression, yet they nevertheless stand firm, keep out the enemy, truth, that would captivate or disturbe them.

I also happen to love George MacDonald..

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The more I work with the body, keeping my assumptions in a temporary state of reservation, the more I appreciate and sympathize with a given disease. The body no longer appears as a sick or irrational demon, but as a process with its own inner logic and wisdom.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on September 06, 2008, 05:20:26 pm
Andrew Sullivan

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Religion Is Politics ...

06 Sep 2008 02:20 pm

... and politics is religion. With Sarah Palin, America has taken one very large leap toward a completely theocratic politics. For Palin, as for Rick Warren, there can be no distinction between politics and religion: all politics is subject to religious guidance and that guidance is to obey the literal truth of everything in the Bible:

    In the address at the Assembly of God Church here, Ms. Palin’s ease in talking about the intersection of faith and public life was clear. Among other things, she encouraged the group of young church leaders to pray that “God’s will” be done in bringing about the construction of a big pipeline in the state, and suggested her work as governor would be hampered “if the people of Alaska’s heart isn’t right with God.”

    She also told the group that her eldest child, Track, would soon be deployed by the Army to Iraq, and that they should pray “that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.”

Everything in her worldview must be according to God's plan, and God's plan is revealed without any ambiguity whatsoever in the literal words of the Bible, Old and New Testament. There is no detail too small, no policy too obscure, that isn't vetted through this filter. This is the fundamentalist psyche in its most extreme form: think Bush but less intellectual. Think Bush's evangelical tradition combined with speaking in tongues and a belief in the Rapture. Yes, this is now conservatism. If you want to explore how it came to this, I gave it my best shot here.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 08, 2008, 04:47:20 pm
The Presidents of the United States (in chronological order):

Quote from: George Washington
In executing the duties of my present important station, I can promise nothing but purity of intentions, and, in carrying these into effect, fidelity and diligence.

Quote from: John Adams
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.

Quote from: Thomas Jefferson
I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance, or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.

Quote from: James Madison
If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.

Quote from: James Monroe
It can not be doubted that the more complete our internal resources and the less dependent we are on foreign powers for every national as well as domestic purpose the greater and more stable will be the public felicity.

Quote from: John Quincy Adams
May our country always be successful, but whether successful or otherwise, always right.

Quote from: Andrew Jackson
Peace, above all things, is to be desired, but blood must sometimes be spilled to obtain it on equable and lasting terms.

Quote from: Martin Van Buren
All the lessons of history and experience must be lost upon us if we are content to trust alone to the peculiar advantages we happen to possess.

Quote from: William Henry Harrison
The maxim which our ancestors derived from the mother country that "the freedom of the press is the great bulwark of civil and religious liberty" is one of the most precious legacies which they have left us.

Quote from: John Tyler
I can not forego the occasion to urge its importance to the credit of the Government in a financial point of view. The great necessity of resorting to every proper and becoming expedient in order to place the Treasury on a footing of the highest respectability is entirely obvious. The credit of the Government may be regarded as the very soul of the Government itself--a principle of vitality without which all its movements are languid and all its operations embarrassed.

Quote from: James K. Polk
Although in our country the Chief Magistrate must almost of necessity be chosen by a party and stand pledged to its principles and measures, yet in his official action he should not be the President of a part only, but of the whole people of the United States.

Quote from: Zachary Taylor
Our Government is one of limited powers, and its successful administration eminently depends on the confinement of each of its coordinate branches within its own appropriate sphere.

Quote from: Millard Fillmore
The great law of morality ought to have a national as well as a personal and individual application. We should act toward other nations as we wish them to act toward us, and justice and conscience should form the rule of conduct between governments, instead of mere power, self interest, or the desire of aggrandizement.

Quote from: Franklin Pierce
The great objects of our pursuit as a people are best to be attained by peace, and are entirely consistent with the tranquillity and interests of the rest of mankind. With the neighboring nations upon our continent we should cultivate kindly and fraternal relations. We can desire nothing in regard to them so much as to see them consolidate their strength and pursue the paths of prosperity and happiness. If in the course of their growth we should open new channels of trade and create additional facilities for friendly intercourse, the benefits realized will be equal and mutual.

Quote from: James Buchanan
What is right and what is practicable are two different things.

Quote from: Abraham Lincoln
The true rule, in determining to embrace, or reject any thing, is not whether it have any evil in it; but whether it have more of evil, than of good. There are few things wholly evil, or wholly good. Almost every thing, especially of governmental policy, is an inseparable compound of the two; so that our best judgment of the preponderance between them is continually demanded.

Quote from: Andrew Johnson
Tyranny and despotism can be exercised by many, more rigorously, more vigorously, and more severely, than by one.

Quote from: Ulysses S. Grant
It is probably well that we had the war when we did. We are better off now than we would have been without it, and have made more rapid progress than we otherwise should have made... But this war was a fearful lesson, and should teach us the necessity of avoiding wars in the future.

Quote from: Rutherford B. Hayes
Disunion and civil war are at hand; and yet I fear disunion and war less than compromise. We can recover from them. The free States alone, if we must go on alone, will make a glorious nation.

Quote from: James A Garfield
Next in importance to freedom and justice is popular education, without which neither freedom nor justice can be permanently maintained.

Quote from: Chester A Arthur
Men may die, but the fabric of our free institutions remains unshaken.

Quote from: Grover Cleveland
What is the use of being elected or re-elected unless you stand for something?

Quote from: Benjamin Harrison
An unlawful expedient can not become a permanent condition of government. If the educated and influential classes in a community either practice or connive at the systematic violation of laws that seem to them to cross their convenience, what can they expect when the lesson that convenience or a supposed class interest is a sufficient cause for lawlessness has been well learned by the ignorant classes?

Quote from: Grover Cleveland
Whatever you do, tell the truth.

Quote from: William McKinley
Our earnest prayer is that God will graciously vouchsafe prosperity, happiness, and peace to all our neighbors, and like blessings to all the peoples and powers of earth.

Quote from: Theodore Roosevelt
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in that grey twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.

Quote from: William Howard Taft
It is important, of course, that controversies be settled right, but there are many civil questions which arise between individuals in which it is not so important the controversy be settled one way or another as that it be settled. Of course a settlement of a controversy on a fundamentally wrong principle of law is greatly to be deplored, but there must of necessity be many rules governing the relations between members of the same society that are more important in that their establishment creates a known rule of action than that they proceed on one principle or another. Delay works always for the man with the longest purse.

Quote from: Woodrow Wilson
Nothing is easier than to falsify the past. Lifeless instruction will do it. If you rob it of vitality, stiffen it with pedantry, sophisticate it with argument, chill it with unsympathetic comment, you render it as dead as any academic exercise. The safest way in all ordinary seasons is to let it speak for itself: resort to its records, listen to its poets and to its masters in the humbler art of prose. Your real and proper object, after all, is not to expound, but to realize it, consort with it, and make your spirit kin with it, so that you may never shake the sense of obligation off. In short, I believe that the catholic study of the world's literature as a record of spirit is the right preparation for leadership in the world's affairs, if you undertake it like a man and not like a pedant.

Quote from: Warren G. Harding
A republic worth living in is worth fighting for, and sacrificing for, and dying for.

Quote from: Calvin Coolidge
Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.

Quote from: Herbert Hoover
Honor is not the exclusive property of any political party.

Quote from: Franklin Delano Roosevelt
I am that kind of conservative because I am that kind of liberal.

Quote from: Harry S. Truman
Whenever you have an efficient government you have a dictatorship.

Quote from: Dwight D. Eisenhower
No people on earth can be held, as a people, to be an enemy, for all humanity shares the common hunger for peace and fellowship and justice. ... No nation's security and well-being can be lastingly achieved in isolation but only in effective cooperation with fellow-nations.

Quote from: John F. Kennedy
The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie — deliberate, contrived and dishonest — but the myth — persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

Quote from: Lyndon B. Johnson
We know that most people's intentions are good. We don't question their motives, we've never said they're unpatriotic. Although they say some pretty ugly things about us. And we believe very strongly on preserving the right to differ in this country, and the right to dissent, and if I have done a good job of anything since I've been president, it's to insure that there are plenty of dissenters.

Quote from: Richard Nixon
North Vietnam cannot humiliate and defeat America — only Americans can do that.

Quote from: Gerald Ford
We have come tardily to the tremendous task of cleaning up our environment. We should have moved with similar zeal at least a decade ago. But no purpose is served by post-mortems. With visionary zeal but the greatest realism, we must now address ourselves to the vast problems that confront us.

Quote from: Jimmy Carter
Human rights is the soul of our foreign policy, because human rights is the very soul of our sense of nationhood.

Quote from: Ronald Reagan
You and I are told increasingly that we have to choose between a left or right, but I would like to suggest that there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down — up to a man's age-old dream; the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order — or down to the ant heap totalitarianism, and regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.

Quote from: George H.W. Bush
Think about every problem, every challenge, we face. The solution to each starts with education.

Quote from: Bill Clinton
There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America.

Quote from: George W. Bush
The desire for freedom resides in every human heart. And that desire cannot be contained forever by prison walls, or martial laws, or secret police. Over time, and across the Earth, freedom will find a way.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: nightmare975 on September 13, 2008, 06:54:02 pm
Quote from: Actual Newspaper Headline
Reason for more bear sightings: more bears.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on September 17, 2008, 05:50:03 pm
Andrew Sullivan:

Quote
She Answered A Question!

17 Sep 2008 02:51 pm

For real! The candidate for vice-president of the United States actually responded to a question from the press! Amazing:

"Though she has been on the campaign trail for nearly three weeks, Palin has yet to hold a press conference, and this morning’s stop marked the first time she answered a question from the press on the fly, prompting concerned looks from staffers."

What twilight zone are we in?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 17, 2008, 06:42:29 pm
Quote from: Scott Kurtz
There is a strange sense of entitlement, an eerie assumption of an unspoken working relationship that I am happy to inform does not exist. Why we insulate ourselves from the notion that the external critic can EVER be right, is because their critique is moot in regards to the progression of our work.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 29, 2008, 11:26:22 am
Quote from: G.K. Chesterton
... the vision is always solid and reliable. The vision is always a fact. It is the reality that is often a fraud. As much as I ever did, more than I ever did, I believe in Liberalism. But there was a rosy time of innocence when I believed in Liberals.

Quote from: G.K. Chesterton
When a politician is in opposition he is an expert on the means to some end; and when he is in office he is an expert on the obstacles to it.

Quote from: G.K. Chesterton
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.

Quote from: G.K. Chesterton
Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on September 30, 2008, 06:17:32 pm
Quote from: Bill Hicks
The whole image is that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinite love. That's the message we're brought up with, isn't it? Believe or die! "Thank you, forgiving Lord, for all those options."

Quote from: Bill Hicks
All governments are lying cocksuckers.

Quote from: Bill Hicks
Wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story on the news? To hear what it's all about, perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting? Just for once?

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration — that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 08, 2008, 02:50:50 am
Quote
Hi,


There's a very important thing you need to change in your site. The Naruto face!!!!!!!! What in the hell is it doing there, it's everywhere. It's ugly, it has nothing to do with Chrono Trigger, and in addition, you can't see anything written on it!

For every visitor you hvae, change the layout and take that Naruto face away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously! I'd rather it be simply white

Poor guy hasn't seen avatars before...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on October 09, 2008, 09:42:09 pm
So many Exclamation Points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: kritterpher on October 19, 2008, 04:02:17 am
     “The world as we see it is only the world as we see it, Others may see it differently.”
-Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: placidchap on October 20, 2008, 08:40:17 am
"My cervix is ripening!!"
        -Dwight, The Office
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 21, 2008, 05:29:00 pm
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Voting_in_Kansas.html#comments

Quote
I voted today. I'm a 33 year old, white criminal defense lawyer in southwest Kansas. The early voting is at the courthouse. I arrive to find 12 old white people occupying all the voting machines. I wait. A machine opens up. The 80 something white male who had been using the machine is now up at the front table asking if he can vote again. The lady running the table says "no, one person, one vote." He replies, "well, I just want to make sure we don't have some terrorist running the country."

This obviously catches my attention so I look at the old man. Our eyes meet. He points a bony finger at me and says, "Don't let it happen." Thinking this old man could one day kill someone and need my services, I don't say anything and proceed to vote.

As I'm leaving the voting room, the young black janitor is in the hallway in front of the room with his cleaning cart. "Did you do the right thing?" he asks me. "You know it." I say and we exchange a terrorist fist jab.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on October 21, 2008, 05:56:58 pm
Quote from: John Wesley
Think not the bigotry of another is any excuse for your own.

Quote from: John Wesley
Think yourself, and let think.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 29, 2008, 06:18:43 pm
THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN -- CLOSING ARGUMENTS

An Exposition of Two Quotes

Monsieur Obama.

Quote
Vote for me because I'm going to change existing Republican policies with these specific proposals.

Monsieur McCain.

Quote
Vote for me because...um, be afraid of Obama. I think he knew a Palestinian dood once. Did I mention I was a POW for a while?

Bonus -- Mademoiselle Palin.

Quote
Fear Obama -- he *gasp* wants to have a government in Washington D.C.! It's not god's will, doggonite gee willickers!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on October 29, 2008, 06:34:46 pm
DAT CROOKED MCCAIN

I got the Brady Games Crisis Core guide, and it's littered with awesome quotes!

Quote from: Sephiroth
They believe your emotions will hamper your judgment.

Quote from: Cissnei
Wings symbolize freedom for those who have none.

Quote from: Angeal
But Zack, no matter what happens, I have to protect my honor.

Quote from: Hojo
SOLDIER's duty is not to think - it is to protect men who think for them, like me.

Quote from: Angeal
I'm still SOLDIER at heart, I suppose.

Quote from: Zack
Don't you think I'd be put to better use on the battlefield?

Quote from: Zack (regarding the Buster Sword)
This is a symbol of my dreams and honor.

Quote from: Genesis
The wind sails over the water's surface. Quietly, but surely.

And my absolute FAVOURITE:

Quote from: Zack
If we pull this off, we'll all be heroes! At the very least, I'd feel like one!


(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/FaFniR_Medley/Springtime/pg26.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on October 30, 2008, 10:24:58 am
Quote from: Joss Whedon
Just remember it's what's INside that counts, as I used to remind girls in high school constantly. CONSTANTLY - until I realized that I was empty inside. Empty and homely. Man, that's a rough combo.

Quote from: Joss Whedon
Let freedom ring, unless it's on vibrate.

Quote from: Joss Whedon
The English Language is my bitch. Or I don't speak it very well. Whatever.

Quote from: Joss Whedon
Always be yourself, unless you suck.

Quote from: Joss Whedon
Every day is a negotiation, and sometimes its done with guns.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Insane on November 22, 2008, 09:55:41 am
Quote from: Unknown
I'd agree, but I don't like being wrong!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: BROJ on November 22, 2008, 06:13:31 pm
Quote from: H.G. Wells
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo.
Quote from: J.F.K. on the definition of happiness
The full use of your powers along lines of excellence.
Quote from: MLK Jr.
In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Quote from: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn.
Quote from: Ambrose Bierce
All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusion is called a philosopher.
Quote from: Samuel Johnson
The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Quote from: Carl Sagan
It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Quote from: Neil's Bohr
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on November 27, 2008, 12:46:48 am
I neither know nor care if someone's already done this, but this is one I strongly live by.

Quote from: Ben Parker
With great power, comes great responsibility.

The one person who first coined this saying is a person I declare to be wiser than King Solomon himself could EVER be.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on November 27, 2008, 12:25:15 pm
Quote from: Ben Parker
With great power, comes great responsibility.

The one person who first coined this saying is a person I declare to be wiser than King Solomon himself could EVER be.

Stan Lee?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on November 27, 2008, 02:49:14 pm
Quote from: Ben Parker
With great power, comes great responsibility.

The one person who first coined this saying is a person I declare to be wiser than King Solomon himself could EVER be.

Stan Lee?

IDK it might not be him that FIRST coined it, as the possibility remains that he either didn't write the lines or someone else coined it first.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on December 10, 2008, 03:07:13 pm
Amazing YouTube exchange on Dragonball Evolution trailer (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4t8PeqJ6E):

Surkis (8 hours ago)
Seriously, this is probably the dumbest fucking thing i've ever watched, and i've seen retards fucking before.

sintygypsy (8 hours ago)
link plz
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Umaro on December 10, 2008, 10:58:19 pm
Quote
I have grown numb and become crushed to an extreme degree; I have roared due to the groaning of my heart. My own heart has palpitated heavily, my power has left me, and the light of my eyes also is not with me.

Psalm 38: 8 and 10. Part of the psalmist David's melody regarding his pangs of distress. It always comes to mind when I'm in my weakest moments.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 13, 2008, 08:55:08 am
"Anger is cruel and fury overwhelming, but who can stand before jealousy?" -Proverbs (forgot the verse)

“Love sees sharply; hatred sees even more sharply; but Jealousy sees the sharpest—for it is love and hate at the same time.” -Arab proverb, allegedly

“Jealousy is the injured lover's hell.” -Milton

I had never really felt prolonged jealousy until the last few days. It's everything I'm seeing quotes and writings describe: conflagrant but tiring; empowering but embittering; involuntary and unsatisfying. It's been nice reflecting upon the effects, and I can say that the alleged Arab aphorism above is absolutely accurate.

Edit: Replaced proverb with aphorism to make the assonance all but assured.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on December 13, 2008, 09:09:50 am
Here's a quote from Chrono Trigger DS that I found quite amusing...

Ayla (after finding the Rainbow Shell in 1000 AD to prove King Guardia XIII is innocent), talking to Marle and helping her get over her "daddy issues":

Quote
Leave Nest!
Have baby!  Give milk!
Have more baby!

Best Chrono Trigger quote ever...?  Very probable.  Ayla is a sexy fountain of wisdom.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on December 13, 2008, 09:34:01 pm
"Boy, you got me confused with someone who repeats himself."  -Omar Little
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on December 20, 2008, 01:14:08 am
Also, for the newer members, this isn't 4chan. Have fun if you want, but don't be asses. That's on you though.

Easily the best thing I've seen on the Compendium in weeks...I feel like putting it in my sig or something, even...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Hammer on December 26, 2008, 11:19:58 pm
Quote
DO NOT PRAY! If you pray, your hands will close together. You will not be able to fight.
Guts, from Berserk

Quote
Now, he's happy. Or, is death the end of the dream? Is it a failure of hope?
Griffith, from Berserk
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 27, 2008, 12:09:45 am
I hope Griffith gets what's coming to him.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on December 27, 2008, 12:10:50 am
Why? What did he do?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on December 27, 2008, 03:22:55 pm
Andy Griffith? Only had the most annoyingly catchy theme song ever. I had that fucker stuck in my head for years...Every once in a while it'd just come straight outta left field & I'd suddenly be whistling it...But this seems more like an entry for the frustration thread...anyways, I thought I'd put that gamestop quote here cause it's pretty funny...

Quote from: Gamestop (http://www.gamestop.com/ds)
Upon further review, we've discovered that Chrono Trigger does not have a level that allows you to travel back to 1982 to throw a football over some mountains and win the state championship. You'll spend most of the game traveling through time, fighting evil bosses and trying to save the planet's future, probably by preventing Sarah Connor from giving birth to Marty McFly.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on December 27, 2008, 04:46:32 pm
Why? What did he do?

Rape.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on December 27, 2008, 04:56:56 pm
Andy Griffith, rape?

OH, SHI-

{Shadow D. Darkman has been disconnected.}
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Hammer on December 28, 2008, 01:47:45 pm
I hope Griffith gets what's coming to him.

I've seen a lot people still cheering for him even after seeing what he has done.


Quote
Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree, you'll miss the entire forest. See everything in its entirety effortlessly. That is what it means to truly see.
Takuan Soho
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on December 28, 2008, 03:57:13 pm
WHEN did Andy Griffith rape someone?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on December 28, 2008, 04:39:34 pm
Fuck, Andy Griffith? Seriously? I thought he was like the nicest man ever in existance.

Well, except Barney Fyfe, of course.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on December 28, 2008, 06:20:45 pm
Fuck, Andy Griffith? Seriously? I thought he was like the nicest man ever in existance.

So did I. Hell, Food Lion adopted his song from the show.

My question still stands (in my previous post), though. When did this happen?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Acacia Sgt on December 29, 2008, 11:02:14 pm
Quote from: Maxwell
Ah, that's right. You two...
Let me teach you about [ way of the space time ]
You two...
[ If you go back in time, you can change the past ]
Do you think so?
Ho ho ho That is a mistake.
For example, If you got hurt by falling down.
If you go back to yesterday and to yourself...
warn about not to fall down.
... that is the problem. There is an inconsistency.
The reason why you wanted to go back in time was...
you got hurt by falling down.
But, If you from yesterday didn't get hurt...
... Naturally...
You, going back to yesterday and giving the warning, don't exist anymore.
After all, It's like this. even if you go back in time...
You can't change what is already done.
To say, in other word, it's a parallel world...
[ Past doesn't change, but your whereabouts changes ]
...It's like that.
Your... Parallel world...
in other words, is moving along with the axis of [ possibility ]
It might happen this way or that way, It is a world with uncertainness.
Essentially, whereabouts of this [ possibility ]...
There can be only one side.
...messing around too much isn't good.
Well then, my lecture ends here.

This may not be entirely correct translated from it's original source, but it is one of the first quotes that got me into the whole thing of space/time and all that.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 07, 2009, 11:12:18 pm
Quote from: Blazing Saddles
Jim: You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on January 08, 2009, 02:54:09 pm
Quote from: Blazing Saddles
Jim: You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.

I love that movie.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: KebreI on January 09, 2009, 01:08:36 pm
Quote from: http://www.orkut.com/Signup.aspx
Please stand up, put your right hand on your heart and solemnly swear the following by selecting the checkbox: [ ] I understand that I must be 18 years or older to use orkut.com. I am 18 years of age or older and I agree to comply with the Community Standards in my use of orkut
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on January 09, 2009, 11:37:02 pm
Testiclees: Why are you talking like that?

Claudius:  It's the bloodlust...I'm going to go get some meat -

T:  -We have no meat!

C:  -No meat?

T:  Only Pop Tarts...

C:  Meat Pop Tarts?

T:  Uh, no...cherry.

C:  ... ... ... ... ... that'll do...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on January 13, 2009, 07:28:11 pm
グリムジョー・ジャガージャック 「俺が王だ !!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on January 13, 2009, 08:02:21 pm
Grimmjow Jaegerjaques "we is the king!!"

OK, what Grimmjow actually said is a bit confusing, as I can't put it together.

(Found a translator Widget that is better than the crappy WorldLingo one I once used.)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on January 18, 2009, 08:10:44 pm
Sorry for double post.

Quote from: HyperNerd, on multiple occasions
When in doubt... LUMINAIRE!!!

QFT.

Quote from: Choras Carpenter in 600 A.D. (CTDS)
On your feet, you lazy do-naughts!

Fuggin' PRICELESS!!! :D :lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on January 18, 2009, 08:34:36 pm
tleton gar Moirai thumon thesan anthropoisin - Iliad XXIV.49 'For the Fates have given to humanity an enduring spirit.'

huic misero fatum dura puella fuit - Propertius (I forget the elegy and line) 'A difficult girl was this wretch's fate.'
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on January 23, 2009, 03:30:53 pm
Fuck, Andy Griffith? Seriously? I thought he was like the nicest man ever in existance.

Well, except Barney Fyfe, of course.

Overly late in coming, but it is a different Griffith. Specifically, the one Z's refered to seems to be from a Manga.

Now to the topic of the thread...

Quote
When you think about it, broth is really just tea made with meat.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on January 23, 2009, 03:39:28 pm
Does that mean that vegetable broth IS tea??
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on January 23, 2009, 04:13:00 pm
In the same way that beef broth is tea.

Its all just water with little bits of other stuff in it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: KebreI on January 23, 2009, 07:40:34 pm
What so Green tea flavored Frozen yogurt, is just tea?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on January 23, 2009, 07:41:33 pm
Quote
When you think about it, broth is really just tea made with meat.
[/quote]

My mind has been blown.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: KebreI on January 23, 2009, 11:59:57 pm
Quote from: man law #15
When calling shotgun, all riders of the car must be outside, and shotgun can only be called when the car is in view. Riders in the car are not allowed to run to shotgun and steal it before the person who called and deserves it arrives there. The driver of the car has no authority to decide on who gets shotgun. If a legitimate confrontation comes up where the rightful owner of the shotgun can not be determined then it will be decided by one round of paper rock scissors (with no shoot). If the two contenders tie 5 times in a row then the rightful owner of the shotgun is to be decided by a UFC cage match in which the first blood drawn decides the rightful owner of shotgun.

If at any point during the process of determining the shotgun rider a hot girl hints that she would like to sit up front the driver has the sole right to declare her the shotgun rider and depending upon the situation may even deny rides to all other passengers. However, if said hot girl is an ex of any passenger they may overrule the driver's decision and make her ride in the back. Additionally, if all passengers happen to be female then revert back to original method of deciding shotgun rider substituting mud wrestling for UFC cage match. The winner then gets either a cold water hose down or shotgun the next ride unless the car is really shitty and the owner doesn’t care about muddy seats.

Quote from: man law #19
The head nod is an acceptable way to greet another guy when simply walking past. No words are needed to be said. An upward nod is for friends, a downward nod is for fellow men.

Quote from: Man law #23
No man in any circumstance, unless mocking a violator of this law, should pop his collar.

Quote from: Man law #32
Under no circumstances shall any man lay a hand on a female or a child in violence. Spanking of a woman's ass or pulling of the hair is permitted if done on request. Corporal punishment is permitted excluding obvious extremes. Punishment for the attacking male is that if other men see the assault taking place they having the right to take him out back behind a building and show him how to fight with real men. In this situation more than one man may be used in the attacking of said woman beater because he clearly doesn’t mind an unfair fight seeing as he was hitting a lady or a child to begin with. A call to the police is a very last resort and should only be used if said male is over 6' 5" 250lb. or an ufc cage fighter. A kick to the crotch is only called for in cases of rape. If it is merely a guy beating a woman, defenseless child, or elderly people then a legitimate beating is called for, but no shots to the crotch. If it is a case of rape however, multiple shots to the crotch are called for. The punishment must fit the crime and since rape is using that area of the body, it is ok to inflict damage to it.

Quote from: Man law #41
Do not have a conversation at a urinal.

Quote from: Man law #66
If a large snake catches a man off guard and bites, said man is allowed to scream once.

Quote from: Man law #71
The girl who replies to the question "What do you want for Christmas?" with "If you loved me, you'd know what I want" gets an Xbox. End of story.

Quote from: "Man law #82
The dressing of any pet for any reason is not acceptable...any garment that is not a part of the animal shall not be allowed to be attached to that animal...exceptions are collars, leashes, etc. exception to this rule are monkeys.

Quote from: Man law #92
No man shall ever read an instruction manual. If the man does not know how to use the item trial and error shall be used until the correct function is determined
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on January 24, 2009, 03:58:44 am
What the...girls can't call shotgun unless they've previously proven that they can handle the weapon! And if there's an actual shotgun in the car and it belongs to someone  other than the driver, they also get it automatically.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shadow D. Darkman on January 24, 2009, 12:19:34 pm
Was that a joke, Trans, or are you really that ignorant of car slang?

Just checking.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on January 24, 2009, 12:25:52 pm
What's the source on those man laws, Keb? I wanna read more...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on January 24, 2009, 02:00:29 pm
Quote
Was that a joke, Trans, or are you really that ignorant of car slang?

Just checking.

That was sarcasm using V was using.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: KebreI on January 24, 2009, 03:13:06 pm
LINKY (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213557603)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on January 24, 2009, 03:30:33 pm
It was half joking...I mean, the whole concept of calling shotgun was based on that though...y'know, actually having someone man the shotgun, like how cops do.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: chrono eric on January 24, 2009, 10:36:16 pm
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Man Law #25. Being a Pirate should be considered a Manly job because pirates get two types of booty.

Truth.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on January 25, 2009, 12:45:54 am
Question:  What is that everybody has, and that some pirates and thieves try to steal from them?

Tha booty.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on January 25, 2009, 03:19:14 am
What about skinny white people?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: chrono eric on January 25, 2009, 08:24:46 pm
What about skinny white people?

I fit into that category.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: x_XTacTX_x on January 25, 2009, 08:46:16 pm
What about skinny white people?

I fit into that category.

Pale skinny guys unite!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: chrono eric on January 25, 2009, 08:51:59 pm
Should we start a union or something? Because my girlfriend is significantly darker skinned than me, it looks like I'm friggin' albino by comparison everywhere we go. Being white sucks. It's not all fun and games being the Man and all.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Daniel Krispin on January 26, 2009, 01:33:41 am
'Love is not a victory march, It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah...' - Leonard Cohen
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on January 26, 2009, 04:46:03 pm
'Love is not a victory march, It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah...' - Leonard Cohen


My favorite line from that song.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Phillies64 on January 26, 2009, 05:29:25 pm
Question:  What is that everybody has, and that some pirates and thieves try to steal from them?

Tha booty.

Fan of A Tribe Called Quest?

I love 'em.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on February 22, 2009, 04:37:33 pm
Don't matter if you're an actor or not...I think we can all reltate somehow...

Quote
Life beats down and crushes our souls and theatre reminds us that we have one. At least the type of theatre that I'm interested in; that is, theatre that moves an audience. You have the opportunity to literally impact the lives of people if they work on material that has integrity. But today, most actors simply want to be famous. Well, being an actor was never supposed to be about fame and money. Being an actor is a religious calling because you've been given the ability, the gift to inspire humanity. Think about that on the way to your soap opera audition.

-- Sanford Meisner

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on February 23, 2009, 06:14:46 pm
Replace "actor and "theater" with "artists" and "art" respectively, and I'd whole heartedly agree.

Quote from: G.K. Chesterton
The center of every man's existence is a dream.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on March 11, 2009, 06:49:32 am
Quote from: Obama
I've learned that I have what I believe is the right temperament for the presidency. Which is, I don’t get too high when I’m high and I don’t get too low when I’m low. And we’ve gone through all kinds of ups and downs.

People forget now that I had been written off last summer. People were writing many of the anguished articles that they’re not writing after our loss in Pennsylvania. On the other hand, after Iowa, when everybody was sure this was over, I think I was more measured and more cautious.

That, I think, is a temperamental strength.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on March 13, 2009, 11:02:49 pm
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Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina.
-Ron Burgundy
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: nightmare975 on April 27, 2009, 02:42:15 am
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Oedipus was a crazy motherfucker.
-Random SomethingAwful member
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: KebreI on April 27, 2009, 03:14:03 am
Wow the was the first laughing aloud I have had in a long time, thank you nightmare.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Setheus on May 04, 2009, 11:10:06 am
Sorry I didnt feel like reading through this whole thread to see if this was already posted but this is my favorite quote from Magus. . .

'If history is to be changed, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed, I must simply laugh!' -Magus
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Samopoznanie on May 04, 2009, 07:02:03 pm
A pair from the book I'm currently reading...
Quote
"Autumn, a season of dying nature, of melancholy, of seeking the past, was best for writing obituaries. Winter, joyous in itself - bracing frost, snow sparkling in the sun - was good for living."
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"A hard life is better than an easy death."
~ from the novel, 'Death and the Penguin'.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on May 04, 2009, 11:37:00 pm
Chrono quotes seem a bit redundant here (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Scripts.html).

This one's in my current MSN personal message/quote/link thingy...

Quote from: Mal (Firefly)
We are just too pretty for God to let us die.

I would include Jayne's Chain of Command quote, but I'm fairly sure I've read it in here already...:lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Samopoznanie on May 10, 2009, 04:15:36 pm
"To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good.”

“You are born in a clear field, but you die in a dark wood.”

~ Russian Proverbs
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on June 03, 2009, 06:15:04 pm
"If you strive for something with all your soul and body and you put every fiber of your being into achieving our goals--you might still fail. But you'll never be disappointed because you did everything that you could do." Unknown
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on June 03, 2009, 06:44:19 pm
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There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
From The Restaurant at the End of the Universe by Douglas Adams
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on June 07, 2009, 05:24:18 am
[01:20] <Ramsus> Okay, so we can't rely on V to keep things under control.

I think I have a new Ramsus quote for my sig! :lol:

EDIT: I'll just put this one in here too...

Seriously though, why do people keep asking for a leak?
Because it's stupid, and stupid, for whatever reason, seems to be contagious.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on July 24, 2009, 06:31:07 pm
Quote from: Vyse
Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit.

Quote from: Vyse
This day will always be remembered. How it's remembered is up to us.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on July 25, 2009, 05:03:27 pm
I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. The are so unlike your Christ. ~Gandhi.

He hit that nail on the head, anyway...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: KebreI on July 25, 2009, 09:37:30 pm
Quote from: Vyse
Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit.

Quote from: Vyse
This day will always be remembered. How it's remembered is up to us.

That does it I'm playing SoA later.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on July 25, 2009, 11:00:56 pm
These are some of my favorite.

Quote from John Ruskin:
Quote
The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it.

Quote from Eleanor Roosevelt:
Quote
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.

Quote from Bruce Springsteen:
Quote
If I have a good trait, it's probably relentless.

Hope you like them.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on July 26, 2009, 12:19:56 am
Coldfinger: Before I kill you, how about a drink?

James Bund: I'll have a martini...stirred, not shaken!

Coldfinger: And would you care for some ICE with that, Mr. Bund?
Title: Your favorite One-Liner
Post by: GenesisOne on July 29, 2009, 05:46:00 pm
Snappy one-liners come from all kinds of sources.  Whether it's a snazzy introduction, a witty rhetort/ comeback, or a well-sounding farewell, nothing beats the quick egotistic inflation of a snappy one-liner.

As such, feel free to post your favorite one-liner(s) from whatever source you can think of (movie, tv series, animated series, broadway musical, and so on).  Be sure to tell us whose saying it and the context (so we don't get the wrong impression).  Nothing vulgar or offensive, if you please.

Here's mine to start with:

"Powdered...Toast...Maaaaaaaaaan!!!!"
- Powdered Toast Man's heroic line, The Ren & Stimpy Show

Have fun!  :D  


Your One-Liner thread is just this quote thread, so here ya go...!
                                                                         ~V_Translanka

Title: Re: Your favorite One-Liner
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on July 29, 2009, 07:53:32 pm
It's not exactly started as a one liner, but I turned into one and use it often as one.

"I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing!"

Samuel L. Jackson, Pulp Fiction.
Doesn't this seem like spam? Not the kind that can have some meaning behind it but the senseless kind? I dunno something feels off with this...
Title: Re: Your favorite One-Liner
Post by: Truthordeal on July 29, 2009, 08:46:45 pm
It might very well be, Onslaught. That's up to V to decide, though.

So, while I'm here I thought I'd drop one of my favorite lines from 8 Bit Theatre. It took me a good deal of browsing through various strips but I finally found it.

"Hm? Oh, you're done. Yes, well your point or points may or may not have been excellent, but I must disagree on the basis that I'm sure it involves me doing things I'd rather not."

-Black Mage, 8 Bit Theatre.

In fact, that one's probably going into my sig once I get bored with this one from Crimson Echoes.
Title: Re: Your favorite One-Liner
Post by: Lord J Esq on July 29, 2009, 11:30:05 pm
Not my favorite, but the first one that came to mind, this is by Heinlein: “They didn’t want it good, they wanted it Wednesday.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on July 30, 2009, 11:06:55 am
I take it V merged these two?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on July 30, 2009, 01:27:58 pm
Yeah. He shouldn't have, though. One-liners are technically "quotes," I guess, but the concept is much more specific and it doesn't really fit in an all-purpose thread like this.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on July 30, 2009, 03:21:35 pm
What else are one-liners if they AREN'T quotes?? Seems like if you want you can just specify what kind of quotes you're posting while you're in here...No need for a whole other thread of the same kind of borderline spamminess if you ask me...*shrugs*

"The will to conquer all shall never conquer all will" - idk if this is actually a real quote, something my mind modified or if i just made it up, but i liked the sound of it as i was typing it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on July 30, 2009, 05:26:27 pm
One-liners are in the realm of comedy. They qualify as quotations because they are typically spoken, but the world of quotation in general is very differently and more broadly purposed. It's like merging a thread about the best-tasting cold medicine into a thread about people's favorite things to eat and drink. The focus kills the compatibiltiy.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on July 30, 2009, 06:01:53 pm
I would probably merge those...1) a cold medicine thread? that's lame...2) it's about the TASTE, so discussion would be more similar to the eat & drink one...Now, if it was about the medicinal value of the cold medicine, I'd see where you're coming from...but regardless, neither of these quote threads are really going anywhere but people listing off things. I'd rather have as few of those types of threads as possible.

Alright, this isn't really a quote or anything, but am I the only one who thinks its funny when in pr0n the girl tells the guy to fuck her whilst they're fucking? Y'know, that breathy kind of, "fuck me, yeah!" kind of thing...who says that during sex? Its kind of close to, "Are you in yet?" if you think about it...:lol: Ah, the wacky world of pr0n...so unbelievably hyper-sexualized. I swear, its like watching a abstract painting sometimes...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on July 31, 2009, 12:23:23 pm
I don’t understand why you merge these threads so much. You seem to strive to minimise threads (at the expense of specificity), but don’t say why. What we end up with are a few monstrosities that are liable to become too broad in scope (and which would probably do better even as their own forums than as single threads) and short-lived but current threads dominating this forum, uncertainty as to where to post some things (and fear of creating new topics for these things in case they get merged and lost to obscurity) and a situation where people explicitly acknowledge from the outset that their threads might be merged in their infancy.

To be honest, it seems like the only reason you merge as many threads as you do and have edited as many posts as you have is because of a notion of propriety regarding modding—you seem to feel like you have to do something, and so doing something has become an empty end instead of incidental to a purposeful end, or that, on other forums, thread merging and post editing is rampant and so you transfer that observation to how you mod here.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Zephira on July 31, 2009, 12:46:42 pm
I don't know, a lot of what I've seen in this thread was one-liners. And when I saw the title of that other thread, I thought it meant flirting lines. Sometimes I wish there was a feature that lets you disable new-post notifications for specific threads.

And to stay one topic, have a quote: "On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger near the escape key." I think that qualifies as a one liner...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on July 31, 2009, 05:11:02 pm
You seem to strive to minimise threads (at the expense of specificity), but don’t say why.

Usually I try to edit the thread poster's post in the merged thread to say why.

What we end up with are a few monstrosities that are liable to become too broad in scope (and which would probably do better even as their own forums than as single threads) and short-lived but current threads dominating this forum, uncertainty as to where to post some things (and fear of creating new topics for these things in case they get merged and lost to obscurity) and a situation where people explicitly acknowledge from the outset that their threads might be merged in their infancy.

To be honest, it seems like the only reason you merge as many threads as you do and have edited as many posts as you have is because of a notion of propriety regarding modding—you seem to feel like you have to do something, and so doing something has become an empty end instead of incidental to a purposeful end, or that, on other forums, thread merging and post editing is rampant and so you transfer that observation to how you mod here.

Quite the opposite, I'm afraid. Most forums I've been to have very little moderation and are left with dozens of garbage threads akin to, "WHO'S THE HOTTEST FF GIRL?", "WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE W/E?", etc. Those types of threads are just there to breed post-whores and usually mark the end of a forums (or at least anything resembling discussion on any real level). I'd rather have friendly giant threads anyone can jump into, which, I admit, are probably intimidating to n00bs or w/e rather than pages & pages of threads that are too similar to one another (or, worse, are just lame game threads). I DO wish there was merging notifications because I know that sometimes thread creators probably think their thread was deleted...I mostly merge because I know that many think necromancy is a no-no, which in the Compendium it is not. If there's already a thread for it, why not post in that rather than make an entirely new thread? Search function, baby, use it!

ON TOPICNESS (it's easy to do!)...

"There are no passengers on Spaceship Earth.  We are all crew."  ~Marshall McLuhan, 1964
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: DarthMagus on July 31, 2009, 05:14:48 pm
From a fortune cookie I got.

"Act as if it were impossible to fail."

Best thing I've ever read on a fortune cookie.

The best fortune cookie ever, however was one my friend Jon got. The fortune was completely blank. Nothing on it at all. How does one interpret that? XD
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on July 31, 2009, 07:30:01 pm
Usually I try to edit the thread poster's post in the merged thread to say why.

I meant in general, not specifically. I meant that you haven’t specified your reasoning for your general approach.

Quite the opposite, I'm afraid. Most forums I've been to have very little moderation and are left with dozens of garbage threads akin to, "WHO'S THE HOTTEST FF GIRL?", "WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE W/E?", etc. Those types of threads are just there to breed post-whores and usually mark the end of a forums (or at least anything resembling discussion on any real level).

Such boards suffer not from having too many threads but from a lack of posting quality and lacking posting standards.

I'd rather have friendly giant threads anyone can jump into, which, I admit, are probably intimidating to n00bs or w/e…

Plonking everything into the megathreads discourages full exploration and discussion of individual items. The pace of the megathreads is much higher because they cover so much, and it’s much harder to have ongoing or deep exchanges in them because the current’s so swift.

…rather than pages & pages of threads that are too similar to one another…

Better to have pages and pages of threads that run their course and can be revived at the expense of encouraging searching and necromancy than having a few limited or overworked megathreads dominating the forum and limiting discussion and discouraging people from starting new threads.

If there's already a thread for it, why not post in that rather than make an entirely new thread?

You’re oversimplifying. I’ve already pointed out that megathreads are problematic. You still haven’t stated why a greater number of more specific threads is necessarily a bad thing, or why it would be such a great problem with this particular forum that it wouldn’t work given a bit of time and perhaps some mod intervention in the beginning.

That aside, merging threads—which kills them even if the bodies are still there—isn’t the only option. It’s much more constructive to broaden the scopes of overly specific threads or merge several of them than terminate them.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on July 31, 2009, 07:32:57 pm
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If there's already a thread for it, why not post in that rather than make an entirely new thread?

I guess we only need one Chrono Trigger Discussion Thread, one Chrono Cross Discussion Thread, and one Radical Dreamers Discussion Thread.  Phew.  I'm glad we got that simplified.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on July 31, 2009, 09:53:06 pm

The best fortune cookie ever, however was one my friend Jon got. The fortune was completely blank. Nothing on it at all. How does one interpret that? XD

He must have no future. An omen, to be sure.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on August 01, 2009, 12:56:41 am
I've always thought V's mergings were pretty fair, or at least well-thought out. I've never been afraid to post a new thread. In fact you can probably still find one of the first threads I made here. "What's with that Snot Bubble?" It may seem like a bullshit title, but it's pretty accurate and a full-blown discussion talking not about the gameplay, not about the character Gaspar, but about the Japanese cartoon culture vs. the American cartoon culture, and the resulting knowledge or lack thereof of what the snot bubble was supposed to really be, and what other nuances the two types of cartoons don't share.

My point is V never merged it with a Gaspar thread, or an End of Time thread, or a Japan thread, so I've never felt like he's being tyrannical in any way. Usually if you have something to say, it can be said. This place is open to ideas, even if we're all willing to debate about them.

To finish, a few good Aldous Huxley quotes.
Quote
All gods are homemade, and it is we who pull their strings, and so, give them the power to pull ours.

Quote
An intellectual is a person who's found one thing that's more interesting than sex.

Quote
After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.

Quote
Beauty is worse than wine, it intoxicates both the holder and beholder.

Quote
Dream in a pragmatic way.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on August 01, 2009, 01:36:54 am
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Dream in a pragmatic way.

*scratches head* An oxymoron, yes?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on August 01, 2009, 03:21:21 am
Such boards suffer not from having too many threads but from a lack of posting quality and lacking posting standards.

I think at the very least it would be a combination of all of them.

Plonking everything into the megathreads discourages full exploration and discussion of individual items. The pace of the megathreads is much higher because they cover so much, and it’s much harder to have ongoing or deep exchanges in them because the current’s so swift.

idk about that...I mean, "megathreads" is sort of how most of the Analysis threads go, right...?

Better to have pages and pages of threads that run their course and can be revived at the expense of encouraging searching and necromancy than having a few limited or overworked megathreads dominating the forum and limiting discussion and discouraging people from starting new threads.

I don't see what's discouraging about the bigger threads. If you have something new to add to them, jump in. People will discuss it if it's interesting, if not, it'll fall back to the wayside, but will always be there ready for anyone in the future to read when they go through the thread...if it was simply a thread itself, it would fall to pages beyond and probably be harder to find that way...

Wasn't my moderation gone over in that thing Ramsus made (I forget what it was called & don't have the url handy)...? I know it failed Ramsus' motives (because it was supposed to be about specifying evidence & such, not just making it a new forum), but I know that THIS THREAD probably isn't the right place to be discussing this? If we want, maybe someone can make a thread (Chrono Compendium Discussion I guess?)...? Then I'll merge these posts with it! :lol:

Quote from: Optimus Prime (DERP DERP DERP) via The Quotable Optimus Prime (http://quotableoptimusprime.blogspot.com/)
The 10 Commandments of Optimus Prime

(http://bp3.blogger.com/_PkvQ708OJpo/R5qm3hAJb2I/AAAAAAAABT4/LyjU_yheZ-0/s400/prime10commands.jpg)

10. Always start a road trip by saying, "Transform, and roll out!"
9. Megatron must be stopped, no matter the cost.
8. Be prepared to die for what you believe in, more than once if necessary.
7. There’s a thin line between being a hero and being a memory.
6. Give people a chance. There’s more to them than meets the eye.
5. Don’t bite off more than you can shred.
4. The future is built on dreams. Hang on to them.
3. Danger can't be ignored. It must be conquered.
2. All you need in life is a little energon, and a lot of luck.
1. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings (except Decepticons).

Sources
10. Cartoon series - multiple references
9. Transformers: The Movie (1986)
8. Transformers: The Movie (1986), Episode: Dark Awakening
7. Episode: More Than Meets the Eye
6. Transformers (2007)
5. Episode: Countdown to Oblivion
4. Episode: The Core
3. Episode: More Than Meets the Eye, Part 2
2. Transformers: The Movie (1986)
1. Transformers (2007)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 01, 2009, 08:21:45 am
By 'look closely' you must mean if you smoke crack, get hit over the head w/a bottle, get papercuts in your eyes and squint from 50 yards away...

That would be like putting a picture of Lara and Taban at the end of Chrono Trigger.  It would make little, if any, sense.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Uboa on August 05, 2009, 07:45:31 am
Quote
Dream in a pragmatic way.

*scratches head* An oxymoron, yes?

*scratches head* *looks at your forum sig*

 :kz
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 07, 2009, 09:00:04 pm
"I kept trying to teach her how to play the piano, but each time she ended up getting pregnant instead."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Uboa on August 08, 2009, 06:45:26 am
"We aren't living in the dark ages. We are, in fact, well into the fluorescent era."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 13, 2009, 02:16:24 pm
"I'm the one who got 11111 views on this topic. Furthermore, I believe Carthage should be destroyed."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 17, 2009, 11:14:47 am
Quote
“Contrary to popular belief, social validation won't make you complete.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on August 27, 2009, 09:38:42 am
I thought I had posted this here before, but I tried searching and didn't come up with it, so since I took it out of my sig, I'll put it here now...

Also, for the newer members, this isn't 4chan. Have fun if you want, but don't be asses...

Learn it, Live it, Love it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 29, 2009, 08:46:16 pm
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1919064,00.html?iid=tsmodule

Quote
Back at headquarters, however, there is little room for nuance. "Here in Rome, Ted Kennedy is nobody. He's a legend with his own constituency," says the Vatican official. "If he had influence in the past, it was only with the Archdiocese of Boston, and that eventually disappeared too."

Yeah? Fuck the Pope, fuck the Vatican, and fuck the magisterium. Italy wouldn't be so fucked up today had it not had to host a venal theocracy for centuries.

Edit: This is a good time as any to post the Bullshit! episode on the Vatican: http://vimeo.com/6321872
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on August 31, 2009, 02:42:13 pm
"I'm the one who got 11111 views on this topic. Furthermore, I believe Carthage should be destroyed."

This is a totally awesome quote. I really should start adding that to the end of all my posts. It worked for Rome, after all.

Quote from: Ted Kennedy
I hope for an America where neither "fundamentalist" nor "humanist" will be a dirty word, but a fair description of the different ways in which people of good will look at life and into their own souls.

Quote from: Doctor Who
I admire them - the bravery of idiots is bravery nonetheless!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on September 03, 2009, 02:16:24 am
Quote
Don't worry if it's not good enough
For anyone else to hear.
Just sing,
Sing a song!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on September 12, 2009, 05:50:00 am
I have many, many favourite quotes.  I'm a bit of a bibliophile, heh.  : >  I could put a lot of them here, but I'm only going to post the quote that is the most important to me::

"The willow knows what the storm does not--that the power to endure harm outlives the power to inflict it."

It is my personal mantra...and probably always will be.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on September 12, 2009, 04:16:08 pm
Quote from: PZ Meyers
I am the product of millions of generations of individuals who each fought against a hostile universe and won, and I aim to maintain the tradition.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/09/saving_gods_by_making_them_eve.php
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Uboa on September 13, 2009, 04:17:21 am
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If you're one of these New Atheists, the lesson is obvious: ditch the useless faith, and follow science.

Follow science?  Is this a joke?  Since when has science been about following?

These new atheists irk me more and more every day.  I understand they're trying to erect a nigh insurmountable bastion to counter religion, and I understand why that is important in today's world.  But to call this bastion "science"?  It's doing a disservice to science as a whole.  It's essentially making science out to be "the religion that works".  How counterproductive to actually fostering a scientific mindset.

Sorry, I grew up in this "religion" after I left Baptism, so I get easily irritated by these, probably minute, faux pas. 
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on September 13, 2009, 05:24:40 am
I could not agree with you more. I go out of my way to discourage that kind of talk. "Belief" and "faith" are bad words in my book on any occasion, and I try not to use them of myself.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on September 13, 2009, 10:16:59 am
I can follow the logic of science. ;)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 16, 2009, 12:01:31 pm
While interesting, that article confuses Creationism with religion at large. Unfortunately, over the last several decades Creationism has spread to other countries and religions, but one ought not confuse the disease for the patient.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on September 21, 2009, 08:39:29 pm
Quote from: The Eighth Doctor
"So it was your plan to kill us all? That's good, that's very good. Because I'd hate to think you'd done something so monumentally stupid by accident!"

Quote from: The Eighth Doctor
'Theosophy? Ha! Surely you mean theophany? Because we're not talking about real gods here, are we? We're talking about the appearance of gods. Your heavenly powers are a little too mechanical for my liking. And, if I may be so bold, Lord Zeus, your demeanor is not very godlike.'

Quote from: The Ninth Doctor
'You lot, you spend all your time thinking about dying. Like you're going to get killed by eggs or beef or global warming or asteroids. But you never take time to imagine the impossible: that maybe you survive. This is the year 5.5/apple/26 - 5 billion years in your future, and this is the day - hold on... This is the day the Sun expands. Welcome to the end of the world!'

Quote from: The Ninth Doctor
Mickey: I bet you don't even remember my name!
The Doctor: Ricky.
Mickey: It's Mickey!
The Doctor: No, it's Ricky.
Mickey: 'I think I know my own name.'
The Doctor: 'You think you know your own name. How stupid are you?'

Quote from: The Ninth Doctor
Rose: 'My mother's cooking.'
The Doctor: 'Good. Put her on a slow heat and let her simmer.'


Quote from: Theodore Roosevelt
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 23, 2009, 06:25:46 pm
Quote from: The Tenth Doctor
The Doctor: I thought you were supposed to be dying.
The Face of Boe: There are better things to do today. Dying can wait.

Quote from: The Tenth Doctor
Rose: Oh, here's trouble. What you been up to?
The Doctor: Oh, this and that. Became the imaginary friend of a future French aristocrat, picked a fight with a clockwork man... Oh, and I met a horse.
Mickey: What's a horse doing on a spaceship?
The Doctor: Mickey, what's pre-revolutionary France doing on a spaceship? Get a little perspective!

Quote from: The Tenth Doctor
John Smith: Mankind doesn't need warfare and bloodshed to prove itself. Everyday life can provide honour and valour. Let's hope that from now on this country can find its heroes in smaller places. In the most ordinary of deeds.

Quote from: The Tenth Doctor
The Doctor: And... Utopia is...?
Professor Yana: Oh, every human knows about Utopia! Where have you been?!
The Doctor: Bit of a hermit.
Professor Yana: A hermit. With... friends?
The Doctor: Hermits United. We meet up every ten years. Swap stories about caves. It's good fun... for a hermit.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on September 23, 2009, 06:52:25 pm
Where are you guys quoting this stuff from? It looks awesome.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on September 23, 2009, 06:55:51 pm
The N'th Doctor is a character in Dr. Who, depending on which season and which person is playing him. They have like a cat's nine lives type thing wherein each successive life they look different. Convenient for a TV show that never gets cancelled.

The writing is quite brilliant, the special effects, not so much, but a charming show, especially if you like british television.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on September 23, 2009, 07:15:01 pm
Ah, so should I look for the 1960's version or the 2005 version?
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Post by: Mr Bekkler on September 23, 2009, 08:29:17 pm
that's debatable. the 2005 version is obviously more accessable but the older versions are considered "classic". 
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Post by: Romana on September 23, 2009, 10:45:27 pm
Ah, so should I look for the 1960's version or the 2005 version?

The new series is accessible right off the bat, but it's best with a little prior knowledge of all the staples. Just use the wikia (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who_Wiki) for whatever confuses you.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on September 25, 2009, 02:55:07 am
Quote from: Captain The Picard
It is possible to make no mistakes and still lose. That's not a weakness. That's life.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 25, 2009, 01:50:31 pm
Quote from: The Ninth Doctor
Rose: What's the emergency
The Doctor: It's mauve.
Rose: Mauve?
The Doctor: Universally recognized color for danger.
Rose: What happened to red?
The Doctor: That's just humans. By everyone else's standards, red's camp. Oh, the misunderstandings. All those red alerts, all that dancing.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on October 04, 2009, 04:44:10 pm
From the national parks documentary (http://www.pbs.org/nationalparks/) that I've been watching:

Quote from: J.B. Priestley
I thought I could imagine a better Grand Canyon, did I? Well, cried Reality, take a look at this--and oh boy!--you ain't seen nothing yet. ... I have heard rumors of visitors who were disappointed. The same people will be disappointed at the Day of Judgment. ...

If I were an American I should make my remembrance of (the Grand Canyon) the final test of men, art, and policies. I should ask myself: Is this good enough to exist in the same country as the Canyon? How would I feel about this man, this kind of art, these political measures, if I were near that Rim?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on October 04, 2009, 05:52:49 pm
Quote from: John Lennon
If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace.


(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2006/09/2006_us_vs_john_lennon_001-(2).jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on October 04, 2009, 06:03:13 pm
Two from Voltaire::

Quote
To hold a pen is to be at war.

Quote
What we find in books is like the fire in our hearths. We fetch it from our neighbour's, we kindle it at home, we communicate it to others, and it becomes the property of all.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 17, 2009, 06:51:14 pm
Quote
1 Corinthians 14:34-36
    Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Hahaha...I love it when the New Testament (aka, the kinder, gentler testament) proscribes something so blatantly wrong and evil as this. "But, but!! That was a different time, and—" Hah. I'm willing to bet most apologists on this point aren't female. Here's what one says:

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1. Bart D. Ehrman in Misquoting Jesus (p.184) says this about 1 Corinthians 14:34-35: "
  • n the basis of a combination of evidence -- several manuscripts that shuffle the verses around, the immediate literary context, and the context within 1 Corinthians as a whole -- it appears that Paul did not write 1 Cor. 14:34-35."
"LOL PAUL DIDNT WRITE IT, I FKN SWEAR HAHA, BUT HE WROTE ALL THAT OTHER STUFF MOS DEF"

Then why don't churches teach this or take it out of their versions of the Bible? Ooh, that'd be revisionism! And that's a no-no (unless you're Conservapedia (http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Bible_rewriting_project)...Who wants to open a betting pool on whether they leave this in?)

Anyhow, here's the money link: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/womens_rights.html

Edit: Ah. The "Joseph Smith Chrono Trigger Retranslation" replaces "speak" with "rule" for those verses, so it affirms that women can't hold the priesthood. Now that's Change Women can Believe in™ (and do). Pfft.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on October 17, 2009, 06:59:36 pm
Holy books are the most dangerous books in the world. Er...sorry...

Quote from: Lord J Esq
Holy books are the most dangerous books in the world.

Any book that is claimed to be imbued with the authority with a deity is a recipe for disaster of every conceivable variety.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 19, 2009, 04:40:42 am
Quote from: Woodrow Wilson
Of course, like every other man of intelligence and education I do believe in organic evolution. It surprises me that at this late date such questions should be raised.

Letter to Winterton C. Curtis (29 August 1922)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on October 19, 2009, 03:46:43 pm

Quote from: Henry Youngman
I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up... they have no holidays.
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Post by: KebreI on October 19, 2009, 07:02:42 pm

Quote from: Henry Youngman
I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up... they have no holidays.
December 24th, Capitalism Day.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on October 19, 2009, 07:09:58 pm

And by Capitalism Day, you mean... what, exactly?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on October 19, 2009, 07:45:17 pm
And by Capitalism Day, you mean... what, exactly?

Christmas Eve--"buy a lot of shit" day.

Although I'd argue that "Black Friday" (day after U.S. Thanksgiving) is more a Capitalism Day than Christmas Eve.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on October 19, 2009, 08:02:25 pm
Every weekend is an atheist holiday: D&D, yo!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on October 19, 2009, 10:30:27 pm
Every weekend is an atheist holiday: D&D, yo!

Pfft, haven't you heard? Religious types have adopted that pagan holiday too. It's St. Cuthbert's Day, now!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on October 19, 2009, 10:36:02 pm
They are pretenders and vile alchemists. Only our Cheetos stains are true.
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Post by: Radical_Dreamer on October 20, 2009, 03:58:36 pm

Quote from: Henry Youngman
I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up... they have no holidays.

It's Henny Youngman. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Youngman)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on October 20, 2009, 03:59:55 pm

My bad...
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Post by: Radical_Dreamer on October 20, 2009, 04:15:12 pm
Not many Hennys in the world. I wouldn't feel bad over it.   :)
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Post by: ZeaLitY on October 22, 2009, 10:23:09 pm
From http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/wright.htm:

Quote from: Frances Wright
The hired preachers of all sects, creeds, and religions, never do, and never can, teach any thing but what is in conformity with the opinions of those who pay them.
-- Frances Wright, "Divisions of Knowledge" (1828), quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 40

I am neither Jew nor Gentile, Mahomedan nor Theist; I am but a member of the human family, and would accept of truth by whomsoever offered -- that truth which we can all find, if we will but seek -- in things, not in words; in nature, not in human imagination; in our own hearts, not in temples made with hands.
-- Frances Wright, Life, Letters and Lectures, p. 101, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 34

Time is it to arrest our speculations respecting unseen worlds and inconceivable mysteries, and to address our inquiries to the improvement of our human condition, and our efforts to the practical illustration of those beautiful principles of liberty and equality enshrined in the political institutions, and, first and chief, in the national declaration of independence.
-- Frances Wright, Life, Letters and Lectures, p. 101, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 34

Instead of establishing facts, we have to overthrow errors; instead of ascertaining what is, we have to chase from our imaginations what is not.
-- Frances Wright, calling churches the most formidable enemy of human progress, third lecture at the Cincinnati, Ohio, Courthouse, August 24, 1828, from Life, Letters and Lectures, pp. 39, 44, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 36-7

A necessary consequent of religious belief is the attaching ideas of merit to that belief, and of demerit to its absence. Now here is a departure from the first principle of true ethics. Here we find ideas of moral wrong and moral right associated with something else than beneficial action. The consequent is, we lose sight of the real basis of morals, and substitute a false one. Our religious belief usurps the place of our sensations, our imaginations of our judgment.... We no longer look to actions, trace their consequences, and then deduce the rule; we first make the rule, and then, right or wrong, force the action to square with it.
-- Frances Wright, "Morals" lecture, from Life, Letters and Lectures, p. 73-4, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 37

I purpose to develope with you that just rule of life, which no system of religion ever taught, or can ever teach; which exists apart from all faith, all creeds, and all written laws, and which can alone be found by following, with an open eye, a ready ear, and a willing heart, the steps of knowledge; by exercising the senses, faculties, and feelings, which appertain to our own nature; and, instead of submitting our reason to the authority of fallible teachers, by bringing always the words of all books and all teachers to the test of our reason.
-- Frances Wright, "Divisions of Knowledge" (1828), quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 42-3
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on October 22, 2009, 10:35:00 pm
I want to know what Zeality believe in. I mean really truly believes in.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 22, 2009, 10:37:46 pm
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Humanity's manifest destiny is illumination.

Some may disagree, but this is the course I've set for humanity. The human race will have a conclusion, just as its risen from humble, animal origins over thousands of years. That ascent will continue. Humans will augment their knowledge and themselves; they'll explore the stars with high technology; they'll seek to learn all they can about the universe and themselves, and transcend humanity to achieve higher sentience. This is humanism (and these days, "transhumanism" is becoming another boon). This is the direction humanity is going, despite a few stumbling steps.

To frame all of human affairs and arguments in the context of human nature and this manifest destiny of illumination is to gain a solid foundation of understanding of things. When I first read the Constitution, I asked, "pursuit of happiness—but what is happiness?" Without awareness of a conclusion, or meaning (excluding even meaning assigned by religion, like "life exists to get to heaven"), this world is nothing but a population of frail life-forms who run about day to day in search of some fleeting pleasure. Everything begins with desire, whether conscious or biological; the "pursuit of happiness" is allowing these desires to compete for fulfillment.

I know humanity is more than that. All our efforts to reduce inequality and injustice; to educate and learn about this world and ourselves; to answer the cosmological questions of the universe and find our own meaning in this existence—it's all a forward process to our "enlightenment" as sentient beings, and beyond. To stand back, and accept human nature—for all its savagery and cruelty, as well as its passion, love, and altruism—and to desire still improvement and more understanding—that's meaningful and insightful, and that's what's going to happen. It's excelsior; it's the springtime of youth; it's the stars beckoning the children of earth to discover all the wonders of the world, within and without them.

To examine social issues and the human condition through this lens is humanism, transcendent of culture, tradition, religion, and belief. It ushers much into view about the beauty of humanity and our environment, and it allows one to debate and strive with a clear goal and metric in mind. It is acceptance and striving both; serenity and ambition.

(http://chronofan.com/Zeality/beginning.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZyjNvy5lwo&fmt=18)

Let's see what's out there.

I believe in the manifest destiny of humanity's illumination, and humanity's capacity to get there and improve itself. I believe in no gods or spirituality whatsoever, right down to watered-down quackery like homeopathic medicine or laughable ideas like an ubiquitous "life force" (that a share of atheists do annoyingly believe in). If my career were in science, I'd probably imagine myself like GrayLensman did; as a rationally-thinking character from a hard science fiction novel. Spiritualism has no claim on the beauty of this world, nor the art capturing that beauty.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Uboa on November 09, 2009, 09:29:07 pm
There are those who struggle for a day and they are good.
There are those who struggle for a year and they are better.
There are those who struggle for many years, and they are better still.
But there are those who struggle all their lives.
These are the indispensable ones.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on November 17, 2009, 11:46:17 am
Quote from: Malcolm Reynolds
Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! Wife or no, you are no one's property to be tossed aside. You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Quote from: Alvin Maker series
Some men are great enough that they can love a whole woman, and not just part of her.

Quote from: Hart's Hope
Are you the strongest of all men, so strong that you can be merciful to me, a weak woman? Here is the undoing of your strength: I am not a weak woman. I am not a little queen.

Quote from: The Call of Earth
Money only buys the illusion of power. Real power is in the force of will — will strong enough that others bend to it for its own sake, and follow it willingly. Power that is won through deception will evaporate under the hot light of truth.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on November 22, 2009, 09:26:41 pm
I've noticed that both leaders I like and dislike often have at least some quotable things in their history. I need to re-educate myself about his period and actions to have a better opinion of FDR, but his number came up on my latest Wikiquote harvest.

Quote
Unhappy events abroad have retaught us two simple truths about the liberty of a democratic people. The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any other controlling private power.

The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living. Both lessons hit home. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing.

Simple Truths message to Congress (1938)

Quote
They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers... call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order.

Quote
The hours men and women worked, the wages they received, the conditions of their labor — these had passed beyond the control of the people, and were imposed by this new industrial dictatorship. The savings of the average family, the capital of the small-businessmen, the investments set aside for old age — other people's money — these were tools which the new economic royalty used to dig itself in. Those who tilled the soil no longer reaped the rewards which were their right. The small measure of their gains was decreed by men in distant cities. Throughout the nation, opportunity was limited by monopoly. Individual initiative was crushed in the cogs of a great machine. The field open for free business was more and more restricted. Private enterprise, indeed, became too private. It became privileged enterprise, not free enterprise.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor — other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government. The collapse of 1929 showed up the despotism for what it was. The election of 1932 was the people's mandate to end it. Under that mandate it is being ended.

These economic royalists complain that we seek to overthrow the institutions of America. What they really complain of is that we seek to take away their power. Our allegiance to American institutions requires the overthrow of this kind of power. In vain they seek to hide behind the flag and the Constitution. In their blindness they forget what the flag and the Constitution stand for. Now, as always, they stand for democracy, not tyranny; for freedom, not subjection; and against a dictatorship by mob rule and the over-privileged alike.

Quote
There is a mysterious cycle in human events. To some generations much is given. Of other generations much is expected. This generation of Americans has a rendezvous with destiny.

Quote
I have seen war. I have seen war on land and sea. I have seen blood running from the wounded. I have seen men coughing out their gassed lungs. I have seen the dead in the mud. I have seen cities destroyed. I have seen two hundred limping exhausted men come out of line-the survivors of a regiment of one thousand that went forward forty-eight hours before. I have seen children starving. I have seen the agony of mothers and wives. I hate war.

I wish I could keep war from all Nations; but that is beyond my power. I can at least make certain that no act of the United States helps to produce or to promote war. I can at least make clear that the conscience of America revolts against war and that any Nation which provokes war forfeits the sympathy of the people of the United States.

Many causes produce war. There are ancient hatreds, turbulent frontiers, the "legacy of old forgotten, far-off things, and battles long ago." There are new-born fanaticisms. Convictions on the part of certain peoples that they have become the unique depositories of ultimate truth and right.

A dark old world was devastated by wars between conflicting religions. A dark modern world faces wars between conflicting economic and political fanaticisms in which are intertwined race hatreds.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 29, 2009, 02:30:46 am
Quote
Well, my days of disagreeing with you are certainly coming to a middle.

I'm not sure who originated that quote, but I think it's cute.

(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/10/2/128989925621426835.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on November 29, 2009, 04:39:57 pm
Quote
Well, my days of disagreeing with you are certainly coming to a middle.

I'm not sure who originated that quote, but I think it's cute.

That sounds like a corruption of a Firefly quote:

Quote from: Malcom Reynolds
Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly comin' to a middle.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on December 04, 2009, 02:09:57 pm
Quote
Marriage is like a bank account. You put it in, you take it out, you lose interest.

Irwin Corey.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: SinisterSpade on December 19, 2009, 05:28:13 pm
Quote
"...I swear by my pretty floral bonnet: I will end you."

Malcolm Reynolds.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on December 19, 2009, 08:42:27 pm
Quote
Well, if that isn't the horn's toot!

~ Joshalonian euphemism for "Cool!"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on December 26, 2009, 01:31:02 am
Quote from: DeForest Kelley
The adventure for tomorrow. ... The camaraderie; people caring about people. Man unashamedly loving man. Learning to understand the motivations of others, who in turn will often end up being not your enemy but your friend.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Romana on January 03, 2010, 02:33:56 am
Quote from: The Eighth Doctor
"You feel that pounding in your heart? That tightness in the pit of your stomach? The blood rushing to your head? You know what that is? That's adventure, the thrill and the fear of stepping into the unknown. That's why we're all here, and that's why we're alive!"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on January 12, 2010, 09:58:33 pm
Quote from: Islam4UK, of Great Britain
Islam will dominate! Freedom can go to hell.

~ NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/world/europe/13britain.html?hp)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on January 13, 2010, 01:22:52 am
I've quoted this here before, but I need to write it again, and remind myself of it again.

Quote
The willow knows what the storm does not--that the power to endure harm outlives the power to inflict it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on January 13, 2010, 12:41:17 pm
Quote
What is going on in America? It is amazing, and disturbing, to ride on a road and see street signs that are printed not only in English but in other languages as well. What's more, even legal documents are no being written in foreign languages. How unnerving to walk down an American street and not understand what people are talking about. Maybe this isn't America. I feel like a stranger in my own land. Why don't they learn to speak English?

-Benjamin Franklin, 1750's.

I don't have any particular agenda with this quote. I found it in my Foundations of Education textbook about instructing bilingual students, and I found it interesting.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on January 22, 2010, 03:04:22 pm
Quote from: Darkwing Duck
Let's get dangerous!

Quote from: Gadget Hackwrench
We're the Rescue Rangers, a small, but efficient, battalion of do-gooders devoted to helping those in trouble. Would you like to see our news clippings?

Quote from: Dr. Venture
Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?

Quote from: Goliath
It is the nature of humankind to fear what they do not understand. Their ways are not our ways.

Quote from: Jeffrey Robbins, from Gargoyles
The written word is all that stands between memory, and oblivion. Without books as our anchors, we are cast adrift neither teaching, nor learning. They are windows on the past, mirrors on the present and prisms reflecting all possible futures. Books, are lighthouses erected in the dark sea of time

Quote from: Bob, from ReBoot
I come from the Net - through systems, peoples, and cities - to this place: MAINFRAME. My format: Guardian. To mend and defend - to defend my new found friends, their hopes and dreams, and to defend them from their enemies. They say The User lives outside the Net and inputs games for pleasure. No one knows for sure, but I intend to find out. ReBoot!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on January 22, 2010, 03:09:15 pm
Hahaha ReBoot!  Crazy show.

Quote from: W. B. Yeats
How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true;
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Samopoznanie on January 29, 2010, 05:12:57 am
Quote
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits."
Quote
"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on."

~ William S. Burroughs
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: MsBlack on January 31, 2010, 11:06:12 am
Quote from: Bruce Hornsby
Said, "Hey old man how can you stand to think that way?
Did you really think about it before you made the rules?"
He said, "Son...

That's just the way it is.
Some things will never change.
That's just the way it is."
Ah, but don't you believe them!

Quote from: They Might Be Giants
Now it's over, I'm dead, and I haven't
Done anything that I want
Or, I'm still alive and there's nothing I want to do.

Quote from: They Might Be Giants
I know politics bore you.
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend.

Quote from: They Might Be Giants
Your friend apologizes, he could see it my way
He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking
Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on February 01, 2010, 10:53:57 am
Quote from: They Might Be Giants
From Nashville came a dark horse riding up
He was James K. Polk, Napoleon of the Stump

In four short years he met his every goal
He seized the whole southwest from Mexico
Made sure the tarriffs fell
And made the English sell the Oregon territory
He built an independent treasury
Having done all this he sought no second term
But precious few have mourned the passing of
Mister James K. Polk, our eleventh president
Young Hickory, Napoleon of the Stump
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on February 01, 2010, 02:13:50 pm
I'm glad someone else out there has an appreciation for the works of James K. Polk.

Now, quick! I need something witty and sophisticated to contribute. Gurffff....

Quote from: Jerry Orbach
Home Alone was a movie, not an alibi.

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/Truthordeal/Dalton-Angry.gif) Damn you, Lenny!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on February 05, 2010, 12:37:30 am
Quote from: Napoléon Bonaparte
There are only two forces in the world, the sword and the spirit. In the long run the sword will always be conquered by the spirit.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on February 05, 2010, 02:07:58 am
Quote from: H.G. Wells
History is a race between education and catastrophe.
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Post by: GenesisOne on February 05, 2010, 02:13:46 am

Quote from: Napoleon Bonaparte
A soldier will fight long and hard for a colored ribbon.
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Post by: Sajainta on February 05, 2010, 04:59:15 pm
Quote from: Philo of Alexandria
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
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Post by: TMC on February 06, 2010, 11:32:51 am
Quote from:  HP Lovecraft
Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon
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Post by: Shee on February 15, 2010, 04:06:17 am
"A life, Jimmy, do you know what that is?  It's the shit that happens when you're waiting for moments that never come..."

Lester Freamon



Never gets old for me...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on March 02, 2010, 12:08:22 am
Quote from: Great Lord of the J
But...if I agreed with you, then we'd both be wrong.
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Post by: Thought on March 10, 2010, 04:25:54 pm
Quote
Unfortunately, jackassery is a renewable resource.
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Post by: ZeaLitY on March 17, 2010, 05:10:46 am
Quote from: Buddha
Anger is like holding onto a red hot coal with the intent to throw it at somebody else. You are the one who gets burned.

Pfft. What a self-limiting, small-minded bastard. When I feel good, I'm productive. When I get angry, I get productive. Any emotion can be a fulcrum for self-improvement and achievement with the right frame of mind.

Quote from: Buddha
Desire is the cause for all your sickness and misery.

Yeah, fuck you. Desire is the arc of my enlightenment and joy.

Quote from: William Blake
Those who restrain desire do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained.

Quote from: Mehmet ildan
When you leave the desires behind, you will find the graveyards ahead!

(http://chronofan.com/Zeality/2449173.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on March 18, 2010, 11:05:30 am
Quote from: Stephen Jay Gould
I strongly reject any conceptual scheme that places our options on a line, and holds that the only alternative to a pair of extreme positions lies somewhere between them. More fruitful perspectives often require that we step off the line to a site outside the dichotomy.
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Post by: tushantin on March 18, 2010, 12:11:08 pm

Pfft. What a self-limiting, small-minded bastard. When I feel good, I'm productive. When I get angry, I get productive. Any emotion can be a fulcrum for self-improvement and achievement with the right frame of mind.
:lol: For YOU, and the 20% of the world's intellectuals, because you've got the right frame of mind. For the rest of the 80%, Buddha's rule applies. I've rarely met those who use anger productively, and Buddha must have been one heckuva calm fella.

Quote from: Bartimaeus Trilogy
Bartimaeus: "According to some, 2 Generally those who don't have to do it. Politicians and writers spring to mind. heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, however manly, or defi- ant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead. Which is a little too permanent for my liking."

Quote from: Bartimaeus
"Well, you try giving yourself a rude hand gesture. See, it just doesn't work does it?"

Quote from: William Blake
If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise.

Quote from: Mephistopheles
Youth, my good friend, you certainly require
When foes in battle round you press,
When a fair maid, her heart on fire,
Hangs on your neck with fond caress,
When from afar, the victor's crown,
Allures you in the race to run;
Or when in revelry you drown
Your sense, the whirling dance being done.

Quote from: Faust
That which issues from the heart alone,
Will bend the hearts of others to your own.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on March 18, 2010, 02:58:34 pm

Quote from: Buddha
Desire is the cause for all your sickness and misery.

That's actually a disputed quote.  I.e. how do you know he said it? And don't say "Because that's the sort of thing a self-limiting, small-minded bastard would say."

Here's one that isn't (and it's more in line with what you believe):

Quote from: Buddha, Kalama Sutra
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on March 19, 2010, 03:27:27 am
GenesisOne, now you're speakin my language, buddy!

Quote from: As You Like It
"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool"
Haha the deal with arrogance? If I think myself wise, then undoubtedly I'm a fool. But if I acknowledge I'm a fool, wouldn't I be wiser still? Hahaha
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on March 19, 2010, 03:55:23 am
If you gots me on you Facity Bouk, you mebby noticed this quote in muh status recently...

“Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for.” ~Epicurus

I likes it & found it when I was looking for a good quote involving dreams for the slogan thread (I thought it too long to actually be one).
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on March 20, 2010, 12:47:23 am
For some reason when I'm at work things I post here sometimes don't show up. I thought I had posted this last week, but apparently not?

"If you're going through hell, keep going."

-Winston Churchill


I find this quote to be extremely useful personally.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on March 20, 2010, 12:06:03 pm
Quote from: Stephen Jay Gould
Either half of my colleagues are enormously stupid, or else the science of Darwinism is fully compatible with conventional religious beliefs - and equally compateable with atheism.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on March 20, 2010, 04:39:51 pm
Quote from: Stephen Jay Gould
Either half of my colleagues are enormously stupid, or else the science of Darwinism is fully compatible with conventional religious beliefs - and equally compateable with atheism.

Must...resist...urge...to snark...gaaah!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on March 20, 2010, 05:37:28 pm
I find this quote to be extremely useful personally.

Same here.  That is a great quote.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on March 22, 2010, 11:26:40 am
Quote from: Matt, from MacHall/Three Panel Soul
The three laws of journalism are:

1) Inform the public of matters of public import.
2) Entertain the audience, when it does not interfere with the first law.
2) Sneak in puns when it does not interfere with the first two laws, unless it's a really good one.
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Post by: ZeaLitY on March 25, 2010, 08:43:06 am
Quote
Som dievča do voza aj do koča.

What a neat quote.
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Post by: Truthordeal on March 25, 2010, 02:06:54 pm
For those of you without an education in Czech or a Czech friend whom you can bug to translate stuff like this:

Quote from: Zeality
I'm a girl into a carriage and even into the carriage driver.

It's something like a pun; "I'm a girl into a carriage (meaning she can ride and/or likes to ride in a carriage) and I'm a girl into the carriage driver (meaning she likes him)."

Learning is fun!
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Post by: FaustWolf on March 25, 2010, 04:39:58 pm
Thanks Truthordeal! That's a fair bit better than what Google Translator was giving me:
Quote from: Google Translator
Som girl in voza Koča to behold.

Hm, hm, hm, imagine ZeaLitY and Truthordeal taking over the Czech gaming industry, starting by translating Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross into Czech. Or has that been done already?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on March 25, 2010, 04:53:55 pm
Hard-to-translate-into-English phrases are fun.  There are phrases and words in Cebuano that can't really be translated into English, and when they are they don't really make sense.  One of those "It sounds better in the original language" things.

For instance, a tigpataliwala is a person who is the go-between in cases of fights or civil unrest, and often gets the brunt of the anger from both sides.  That took a long time in English to describe, but in Cebuano it's one word.  XD
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Post by: Zephira on March 25, 2010, 05:56:28 pm
I want to say that kind of person would be a middle-man or a mediator, but neither seem to completely fit the bill. There are a lot of Spanish words like that too (specifically, the swear words). I ask Nolan what a certain word means, but he says there's no direct translation. It's better to ask what it implies (though that's the same thing as meaning).
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Post by: ZeaLitY on March 25, 2010, 09:09:21 pm
Ah, the problem it didn't translate well is because it's Slovak, not Czech. The point is that Czech/Slovak women are versatile and skilled; they're good in the princess horse-carriage and also in the farmer's horse-cart.

Yeah, leave it to a feminist to make sweeping culturalist generalizations about the female sex. Anyway, it's just sort of a fun thing a friend passed on to me.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on March 26, 2010, 12:44:22 am

Quote from: Johann Georg Hamann, Sämtliche Werken
Not only the entire ability to think rests on language... but language is also the crux of the misunderstanding of reason with itself.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on March 28, 2010, 11:51:52 pm
Quote from: Richard Dawkins
Ratzinger should remain in charge of the whole rotten edifice - the whole profiteering, woman-fearing, guilt-gorging, truth-hating, child-raping institution - while it tumbles, amid a stench of incense and a rain of tourist-kitsch sacred hearts and preposterously crowned virgins, about his ears.

Hah, what a beautiful badass. Dawkins, motherfucker. Calls it like it is.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on March 31, 2010, 08:26:32 pm
Quote from: Douglas Adams
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
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Post by: Thought on April 01, 2010, 10:24:40 am
Quote from: Doctor Who - Love and Monsters
When you're a kid, they tell you it's all "grow up. Get a job. Get married. Get a house. Have a kid, and that's it." But the truth is, the world is so much stranger than that. It's so much darker. And so much madder. And so much better.
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Post by: Truthordeal on April 07, 2010, 01:56:28 am
Quote
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
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Post by: GenesisOne on April 07, 2010, 01:28:11 pm

Hah, what a beautiful badass. Dawkins, motherfucker. Calls it like it is.

So why does a smart guy like Richard Dawkins regularly give atheists a bad name by putting his foot in his mouth with his inane and ridiculous pronouncements about God and religion?
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Post by: Romana on April 07, 2010, 02:30:48 pm
Quote from: Doctor Who - Love and Monsters
When you're a kid, they tell you it's all "grow up. Get a job. Get married. Get a house. Have a kid, and that's it." But the truth is, the world is so much stranger than that. It's so much darker. And so much madder. And so much better.

For an episode that derails into absolute turd in the last 15 minutes, it has some beautiful dialogue. Elton was a pretty sympathetic and realistic character.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 07, 2010, 07:16:49 pm
So why does a smart guy like Richard Dawkins regularly give atheists a bad name by putting his foot in his mouth with his inane and ridiculous pronouncements about God and religion?

I don't agree with Dawkins' approach, as I find it counterproductive in terms of persuasiveness, but of all the things I have heard or read by him, he has never said anything inane or ridiculous--in contrast to the inanity of religious faith and practice, well deserving of ridicule. If he gives the irreligious a bad name to you, it is only because he is irreligious.
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Post by: ZeaLitY on May 24, 2010, 12:44:50 am
Quote
Anonymous 05/23/10(Sun)23:36 No.9471036

    someone should tell the Lost producers that God, Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell aren't real
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Post by: tushantin on May 24, 2010, 06:22:18 am
@ZeaLity: So much as I respect Atheism, theistic indifference, the right to question and skepticism, you're not merely an Atheist - you're an Anti-theist. Major difference. Don't mean to hurt your feelings because I know your intentions are noble (though offensive in some ways) and I understand every faith and science has its flaws, but suppressing the rights to believe, the rights to curiosity, and the right to follow a community is indirectly suppressing the rights to recreation, the rights to think and the rights to recreate and evolve by experience. Quite hypocritical of you, and I really hoped you were more than that.

Quote from: Obama
These extremists are not the first to kill in the name of God; the cruelties of the Crusades are amply recorded. But they remind us that no Holy War can ever be a just war. Such a warped view of religion is not just incompatible with the concept of peace, but the purpose of faith - for the one rule that lies at the heart of every major religion is that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

Quote from: Obama
For if we lose that faith - if we dismiss it as silly or naïve; if we divorce it from the decisions that we make on issues of war and peace - then we lose what is best about humanity. We lose our sense of possibility. We lose our moral compass.

Quote from: SRK
There are no good Hindus, bad Hindus, good Christians, bad Christians. Either you are a good person or a bad person. Religion is not the criterion, humanity is.
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Post by: ZeaLitY on May 24, 2010, 04:16:20 pm
When are you and GenesisOne going to stop following me around like little missionaries? Fuck off.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on May 24, 2010, 05:20:54 pm
...but suppressing the rights to believe, the rights to curiosity...

Without regard to the rest of your post, this bit right here is an extraordinary irony. Among the living, there is no greater subversion of curiosity than belief.


Okay, one more bit:
Quote
I understand every faith and science has its flaws...
This construction is incorrect because the two are not parallel.
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Post by: GenesisOne on May 25, 2010, 02:59:11 am

Me being a missionary to you, Z? That's too good for you.

@Lord J: A belief that a person has doesn't necessarily mean that such a belief is absolute.  We have beliefs because that is how our minds work. Although we would like to think that everything we believe is based upon evidence and logic, this is simply not true. I could argue that we become emotionally bound to our worldview, so much so that worldview changes occur rarely, if at all.

While I'm here, I'd like to add (but not to get too far off topic) that the whole fight between faith and science pitted daily in the minds of many a person of faith and person of science... is not as big as we like to perceive it.

Some food for thought. (http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/science-and-faith-the-conflict/)

Oh, and a quote to fulfill the purpose of this thread:

Quote from: Francis Collins
One of the greatest tragedies of our time is this impression that has been created that science and religion have to be at war.
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Post by: tushantin on May 25, 2010, 03:41:47 am
When are you and GenesisOne going to stop following me around like little missionaries? Fuck off.

Sorry, man, but you're one of those people I respect the most and look up to. If it was someone else I woulda ignored it, but it's rather disappointing to see you act like a child sometimes. Sorry.

@Lord J Esq: Faith and Science are indeed parallel, and Faith may not necessarily be religious faith, it could be philosophical as well. As for the irony, I won't bother saying. You'll find out one way or the other, you're pretty smart. 

Quote from: Albert Einstein
If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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Post by: ZeaLitY on May 25, 2010, 04:20:40 am
Einstein was an atheist. Look up his quotes. His references to God were largely allusions to cosmic mysteries, such as universal constants. And it is not childish to plainly state the truth that religion is fallacious and mistaken, as is the idea of the supernatural. It is an important mark of maturity for a sentient being to part with prehistoric explanations of phenomena that have been ritualized into dogmatic, oppressive institutions.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on May 25, 2010, 10:24:31 am
Faith and Science are indeed parallel.

No, they aren't. Not unless you deliberately change the definition of the terms. Faith is the adoption of a premise without substantiating evidence. Science is a method of accumulating physical facts in a quantifiable manner. To find their common ancestor you would have to go all the way up the tree to "things that are human institutions." The only symmetry of any kind that they share is that scientific data are the gold standard for justifying a thesis whereas faith is the exact opposite. That is not a parallel. You had written that you "understand" that "every faith and science has its flaws." I'm not sure exactly what you think it is you understand, but what you reveal yourself to me to understand, on this matter, is not flattering enough to warrant mention.

As for the irony, I won't bother saying. You'll find out one way or the other, you're pretty smart.

Irony indeed.
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Post by: Thought on May 25, 2010, 11:09:59 am
Quote from: Doctor Who
The Doctor: Funny little human brains. How do you get around in those things?
Rose: When he's stressed he likes to insult species.
The Doctor: Rose, I'm thinking.
Rose: Cuts himself shaving - does half an hour on life forms he's cleverer than.
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Post by: tushantin on May 25, 2010, 12:10:39 pm
@Lord J: It's pretty much obvious that Faith is not a synonym to Science, but I never said anything about term; they are however parallel in nature, especially when Science takes on the traditional Two-Point view (rather than the logical Open-Point) where the bases take upon standardized methods of evaluation rather than confirm a third possible alternative. On the other hand one has choice of pursuing Faith or dogma (unless bound to by force, restricting rights which is thus against the morality of religion), the right to heresy and the right to believe. Taking into accounts of belief within faith which, with a person's own choice, can be reconsidered based on and confident belief in theories that may already have been confirmed not later than 10 years ago, it all ends up at one place: choice. And indeed, both science and faith has its flaws.

And there's more to it than that. But I take it back; you don't seek understanding. But I'm not really one to elaborate.

@ZeaLity: Atheism isn't anything bad. Einstein may have been an atheist, but his philosophical views emerged on the basis of religion, thus "a deeply religious non-believer". Though heretic, Isaac Newton was also a religious alchemist despite his disbelief in trinity deities (EDIT: but he certainly did believe in God, although not in an traditional orthodox perception). Nikola Tesla may not have been religious but he was a believer; he believed in martians, spirits, telekineses, etc. which actually boosted his zeal and curiosity into uncovering greatest inventions and revelations influential to mankind where others feared or didn't bother to explore. Even the ancient Hindu Chiromancy (astrological exact science, not fortune telling) is today studied by doctors in order to predict symptoms/health conditions, or even predicting a person's occupation accurately. When I said childish I was implying at your attitude, not atheism.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
"That deeply emotional conviction of a presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.

@Though: LMAO i remember that quote. xDDD Awesome!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: prism on May 25, 2010, 03:59:26 pm
Ah, this being Towel Day, I believe I have an appropriate quote:

Quote
"The Babel fish" said The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy quietly, "is a small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconsious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the consious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish."
"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes something like this:
`I refuse to prove that I exist, says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanished in a puff of logic."
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.


The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

A subject always best approached with a sense of humor.  I suppose it helps if you're British.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on May 25, 2010, 04:28:14 pm
Being British helps with everything... I mean:

Quote from: Thought
Being British helps with everything.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 25, 2010, 05:07:10 pm
Confusing faith and science again. Faith is believing, regardless of supporting or contrasting evidence, that something is true. The scientific method involves theorizing and hypothesizing that something may be observably reproducible and, given enough support, "true" until more evidence is collected. I believe in the potential of humanity to master itself and explore the universe. This is achievable through better systems of civilization, self-directed evolution, and so on. There is strong evidence here, predominantly in the upward arc of humanity observed thus far. In the 1800s, it was possible and even likely given humanity's understanding of planets that a leading scientist could postulate life exists on other planets in our solar system. Tesla had some evidence to that end from the aberrant click radio signals he allegedly picked up, which he could not explain at the time. It is different from believing that humans have Thetans inside of them without any evidence for and with voluminous evidence against. (Or, among more socially acceptable cults, that "God" exists.)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: prism on May 25, 2010, 05:34:56 pm
Being British helps with everything... I mean:

Quote from: Thought
Being British helps with everything.

Case in point:

Quote
A subject always best approached with a sense of humour.

Much better.  Of course, what I'm referring to is yellow bile and phlegm.  But one must always approach humours with humour, or risk having too much yellow bile...

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on May 25, 2010, 11:26:35 pm
And indeed, both science and faith has its flaws. And there's more to it than that. But I take it back; you don't seek understanding. But I'm not really one to elaborate.

Here is revealed something which is all too common in the human condition, being the limitations to understanding which people impose on themselves in the course of maintaining their worldview. You seem genuinely ignorant that your own stubbornness is preventing you from understanding me. It is unlikely that you seriously considered any proposition, observation, or declaration I made. Instead, you eschewed credible justification or earnest exploration and crassly repeated your original mistaken assertion, implying a parallel between two institutions which does not exist. Then, when faced with lack of validation from me, your response was that I apparently "don't seek understanding." Again, the irony is excitingly thick.

You could make a number of valid criticisms of me, but lack of curiosity is not one of them. I understand what you were trying to say, gibberish though it is, and I even see the root error: You conflate the physical with the metaphysical. I can appreciate that you think you are on to something. Curiosity does not preclude me from forming conclusions, however, and you, like many a mook before you, have mistaken my rejection of your claim for closed-mindedness. You would perhaps realize your error if you were to bring something credible to my attention that I had not previously considered. But what you have shown me thus far in these exchanges of religion is nothing new, nothing I haven't seen a hundred times already. There was a time when you struck me as smarter and less dogmatic, but I am beginning to be able to see that that perception was my mistake, resulting from the fact that I am much less familiar with modes of expression by people in your culture than I am with people in my own. You're more of a Truthordeal type, sans the rigid Christian moralism.

When you insist that science and faith are parallels on the premise that both amount to a system of decisions to commit acts of belief, you are committing what I might call "the classic faith-based misinterpretation of science." Scientific data are statements of fact, valid as far as the underlying parameters of observation are valid. Facts are truths of a kind, but science itself is not concerned with "the truth" per se. Scientific theorization is premised upon the consistent description of the behavior of phenomena--so that we might be able to draw conclusions about how things were, how they are, and how they will be. The province of science is the physical world, and, except to the extent that all physical quantities are "true" in that they exist, truth itself is not a part of the physical world. It doesn't actually matter if a scientific theory is metaphysically true or not--the theory need only be valid--and a true (heh!) scientifically-minded individual won't interpret scientific conclusions as statements of "truth" (granting that they might use the word "truth" because of the functional similarity between truth and validity). This is one of the great powers of science: It empowers us to talk meaningfully about our world without having to own any truths. That's why good scientists will blithely pronounce that they may damn well be wrong and are quick to admit when it happens.

"The truth" is a metaphysical concept, not a physical one, and it belongs in the province of logic, not science. The truth isn't relevant to science, and so the institution of faith doesn't apply, because faith deals in (knock-offs of) the truth--not statements of fact. Belief is simply not required. Thus, your characterization as science as a belief system is wrong to the utmost. And this becomes readily apparent when you start using faith in place of factual information. "Here is a new microwave! No need to check the power rating; I believe it is 1200 watts. I will cook my food accordingly." Most people who go that route, notwithstanding the few who hit false positives when their microwave turns out to actually operate on 1200 watts, are going to end up with undercooked or overcooked food.

Religious people consistently fail to understand this. To them, atheism is a religion and science is a belief system. The power of faith is so corrupting that these individuals become unwilling or unable to see the world outside the lens of "the truth." It is beyond them to understand that science doesn't use belief because it isn't interested in the truth. It's analogous to what I might call "the classic faith-based misinterpretation of nonreligiosity," wherein religious people are genuinely stupefied at how nonreligious people could possibly have an ethical grounding or any sense of satisfaction in life.

Because science describes the physical world with predictive power while religion does not, the counterstroke of believers has long been to degrade the value of factuality and assert that science is nothing more than another belief system. That's what you've done here. You get zero points for doing so. It isn't that I'm not curious; it's that you're mistaken and you don't realize it. That said, you have been a friendly presence here, so at least you don't get stuck up on yourself like some of the others do. If only you would extend your humbleness just a little farther, into your worldview!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 26, 2010, 04:01:15 am
@Lord J AND ZeaLity: When I said "you do not seek" is because you've not taken the time to step into the shoes deeply enough of every (theistic or not) and experience the morals therein. Lord J, believe me, you have never been wrong, but you have been limited in some aspects. First and foremost I'm a Philosopher, and only then I'm an atheist, but certainly not an anti-theist, and my defense of religion is on the very grounds of morality (which you deem non-existent) than "scientific evidence". Faith is an absolute sense of belief, confident belief without the need of evidence, on the other hand Science is belief only after evidence has been furnished. But these aren't the ONLY two things guiding humanity. There is also Militarianism/civics/politics, Philosophy, Fictional Interest, etc., and taken into rounds they certainly are adjacent. If there's one thing experience has taught me is that Science is one of the tools to develop understanding the nature of everything, though everything physical, but is certainly limited with regards to human sentiments, the concept of "concept", art, predicting the nature of civil conditions and activities, and what have you.

Science can't be the "only" tool in order to gather absolute knowledge of everything, if used for most, but judging by most rational people who depend solely on the grounds of science you can actually say they have some sort of an undying "faith" upon the thought of Science being the only thing that can uncover every secret.

I have visited many families of different communities and have been accustomed to their habits and traditions which often marvel me. I have many times read the irony of Christianity but I admit I have never experienced it first hand. However being from a Hindu family, despite the heavy influence of "deities", I have also noticed the traditional and cultural values encouraged from generations to come which adds to socializing with not only families from their community but also those from outside. Religion is more tied in with sentiments rather than rationality, and no one can argue with that, but from what I've noticed is that most Hindu morals and mannerism is never actually "forced", but it's more often "chosen" by the individual because they find something good within, and due to this the famed festivals of Lord Krishna and Ganesha is STILL celebrated today despite 50% of all Hindus being Atheist. They are indifferent towards "Gods", but they love being Hindu! In turn all that is polished and passed on. If that's the case with Hindu, then there has to be something about the rest of the religious cultures that I have missed. They have a long standing majestic ancestry.

Of course, for the atrocities of some religion (another reason I'm defending it) is because of severe politics. There still are plenty of people who'd love to rise to the head-seat and flatter themselves with riches and fame without giving a damn about the people. This has happened throughout history not only in Religion but also in monarchs and (ESPECIALLY) in our Indian Government which isn't influenced by religion. So why must only Religion be subject to having a bad name?

As for Tesla, initially he never really had any evidence. He was one of those scientists that take on "Open-View" considering the role of "possibility" in Science. He merely began speculating at some point without any hard evidence, making his peers think he's mad, but he sought them out anyway; first the evidence in order to harness help and funds for the project, and then he did the impossible, saw the invisible, and rowed the powah!

By the way, my concept of "Faith" is not bound to religion, but more on Philosophical and Psychological terms, the absolute belief of a human mind.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 26, 2010, 04:20:48 am
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you've not taken the time to step into the shoes deeply enough of every (theistic or not) and experience the morals therein

I am an ordained Mormon priest. I experienced full religion, right down to crying and feeling the spirit burn in my chest. Hysteria can be a powerful emotivator. I have walked down the path of belief, and it's a fraudulent house of cards.

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As for Tesla, initially he never really had any evidence. He was one of those scientists that take on "Open-View" considering the role of "possibility" in Science. He merely began speculating at some point without any hard evidence, making his peers think he's mad, but he sought them out anyway; first the evidence in order to harness help and funds for the project, and then he did the impossible, saw the invisible, and rowed the powah!

Science considers possibilities and then explores them based on likelihood. You didn't explore Hinduism; you were born into it. If you'd been born in the American South, you'd be talking about Southern Baptists right now. Affirming and ratifying childhood conditioning is not choice.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 26, 2010, 10:30:58 am
I am an ordained Mormon priest. I experienced full religion, right down to crying and feeling the spirit burn in my chest. Hysteria can be a powerful emotivator. I have walked down the path of belief, and it's a fraudulent house of cards.
That statement of mine was implied at Lord J, since I was fully aware of your former religious background, but do note that note every community is the same as the other. Just because one's so hateful doesn't mean every other is the same; some often contribute greatly to humanity. But something tells me you fear to explore them from the heart. Fear breeds ignorance, and ignorance breeds more fear, both in turn breeding hate.

Science considers possibilities and then explores them based on likelihood. You didn't explore Hinduism; you were born into it. If you'd been born in the American South, you'd be talking about Southern Baptists right now. Affirming and ratifying childhood conditioning is not choice.
Hah, there goes your "something you can't see does not exist" theory, but I'm glad you're starting to see my point slowly. But judging things based on category and background alone is your weakness giving you a very limited view of the nature of things even in humanity; you judge me because I was born in a community that I defend. What you fail to notice that I've taken my chances, my choices each step of the way, my decisions, knowledge and views vastly different from common atheists, Hindus and Muslims alike? I told you that I'm a Philosopher first, a humanitarian, and I look at humanity (Atheist or Religious) from that perspective. My difference in views are the result of my studies and exploration of my own culture, and varied religion of not only my country but also those outside, yet I do not enforce people to think like me. But I will till the end defend them all, even those I have not heard of yet. Religion, just like the government of some nations, has been a victim of selfish politics, and if you're going to take up arms against a false target then you may as well become an anarchist.

Sindhi culture is one of those that have originated from the earliest Dharmic religion that stood strong since earlier than 14,000 years ago, but due to the invasion of the Muslims at the north of Bharata the culture was greatly influenced and even altered. The Sindhi were divided often, but some stayed greatly true; but the culture was still weakening.

I could tell you a whole story of how I've gotten this far, but this ain't the proper thread to do so. Anywhos, I'll stop here now. Won't reply the next argument, at least not in this thread.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Phillies64 on May 26, 2010, 10:48:40 am
Religion, just like the government of some nations, has been a victim of selfish politics, and if you're going to take up arms against a false target then you may as well become an anarchist.

I'm going to stay out of this debate, but I've been making this point for years. I'm just happy to see someone else say it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on May 26, 2010, 11:07:28 am
Quote from: Tushantin
But something tells me you fear to explore them from the heart. Fear breeds ignorance, and ignorance breeds more fear, both in turn breeding hate.

Quote from: Yoda
Everything! Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.

Quote from: Tushantin
By the way, my concept of "Faith" is not bound to religion, but more on Philosophical and Psychological terms, the absolute belief of a human mind.

Quote from: Obi Wan Kenobi
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Dear God, this entire forum is filled by Siths!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on May 29, 2010, 02:43:01 am

Boy.  I'm gone for a while, and this whole debate springs up from a few sentences.  It is, in the same way, like a colossal redwood that grows from a small acorn over time. Onward and upward.

@Z: Einstein wasn't an atheist. Some quotes of his to jog the memory:

Quote from: Albert Einstein
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment"

He was most likely a deist - i.e. he didn't believe in a personal god:

Quote from: Albert Einstein
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."

Despite this, Einstein was definitely not an atheist, since he spoke out against being categorized as such:

Quote from: Albert Einstein
In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws, but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but admire even more his contributions to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and the body as one, not two separate things.

Einstein's failure to understand the motives of God are the result of his incorrect assumption that God intended this universe as His ultimate perfect creation. Einstein could not get past the moral problems that are present in our universe. He assumed, as most atheists do, that a personal God would only create a universe which is both good morally and perfect physically.

Einstein didn't seem to understand that one could not choose between good and evil if evil did not exist. It's amazing that such a brilliant man could not understand such a simple logical principle. This isn't an attack on his intelligence; this is but an examination of his stance (concerning both the natural and supernatural) and how it's been misused by atheists such as yourself. You could learn a lesson from him (emphasis added):

Quote from: Albert Einstein
I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
Try and penetrate with our limited means the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To that extent I am, in point of fact, religious.

It's about time we put an end to the myth that Einstein was an atheist, because he wasn't.

Quote from: Albert Einstein
I am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.

More to come. Or, in your words, "just the fucking beginning".
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on May 29, 2010, 05:09:36 am
Your conclusions do not follow from your evidence. And you can quote me on that.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 29, 2010, 11:01:08 am
Actually, J, it does. I fail to understand why you can't see it.

Hah, I knew Albert was the kinda guy who couldn't differentiate between shampoo and soap, but right now, despite some of his flaws, I respect him more than I ever have in my life. *bows to the great genius*

Quote from: Study in Scarlet
"From a drop of water," said the writer, "a logician could infer the possibility of an Atlantic or a Niagara without having seen or heard of one or the other. So all life is a great chain, the nature of which is known whenever we are shown a single link of it."

Quote from: Study in Scarlet - Sherlock Holmes
One's ideas must be as broad as Nature if they are to interpret Nature

Quote from: Study in Scarlet - Watson
His ignorance was as remarkable as his knowledge
Haha true for every human, actually. The more we know, the more we THINK we know, and thus there's not much we actually know.

Quote from: William Shakespeare
The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise  man knows himself to be a fool

Quote from: Study in Scarlet - Sherlock Holmes
When a fact appears to be opposed to a long train of deductions, it invariably proves to be capable of bearing some other interpretation.

Quote from: Study in Scarlet - Sherlock Holmes
I consider that a man's brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things, so that he has a difficulty in laying his hands upon it.

Quote from: Rancho - 3 Idiots
I wasn't teaching you engineering sir, that you know better than me. I was teaching you .. How to teach.

Quote from: 3 Idiots
Rancho: You know, our hearts fear a lot. So at times we gotta convince them with a little pat, saying, "Don't worry, mate, all is well".
Raju: And that's gonna solve everything?
Rancho: Nah, but that gives us the courage to deal with it.

Quote from: 3 Idiots
Rancho: Pursue excellence, and success will follow, pants down

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Mark Twain: In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made school boards

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Karl Kraus:Education is a crutch with which the foolish attack the wise to prove that they are not idiots

Quote from: 3 Idiots
Farhan Qureshi: [after finding out Rancho topped their exam] That day we learned, when your friend flops, you feel bad. When he tops, you feel even worse

Quote from: 3 Idiots
Big dilemma; support your friend, or wipe tears off the eyes of your friend's mother. Then we thought -- forget about it, just concentrate on the food.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on May 29, 2010, 03:41:21 pm
Actually, J, it does.

no u
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on May 29, 2010, 11:36:15 pm

Your conclusions do not follow from your evidence. And you can quote me on that.

Who? tushantin or I?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 30, 2010, 11:46:49 am
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Saari umar hum
Mar mar ke jee liye
Ek pal to ab humein jeene do
Jeene do

Give me some sunshine
Give me some rain
Give me another chance
I wanna grow up once again

I know these aren't quotes, but these lyrics are catchy and quite heart wrenching. Basically they interpret the feelings of every student (kid, teen and adult) suffering from the ruthless pressures of educations from various sides. You can read about the song here.
http://gawdsowncountry.blogspot.com/2009/12/give-me-some-sunshine-give-me-some-rain.html

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on June 02, 2010, 01:39:05 pm
Uhoh, Tony Perkins:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/01/my-take-ending-dont-ask-dont-tell-would-undermine-religious-liberty/

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Ending 'don't ask, don't tell' would undermine religious liberty

Ah, so you mean religion is about having the freedom to hate a stigmatize a subculture of your choosing?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on June 02, 2010, 02:29:08 pm
Quote from: Myself Five Minutes in the Future
When did the Quote Digest thread become the Frustration thread?

That's right, I created time travel. Booyah. Now it's time to go back and stop the Second Invisible War from happening in the 1970's.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 03, 2010, 03:40:37 am
Ah, so you mean religion is about having the freedom to hate a stigmatize a subculture of your choosing?
You just never give up; still insolent and immature. I'm not even gonna bother arguing anymore, it's not like you can do anything about people's beliefs anyway.

EDIT: Something we found.

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Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and the spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity.
http://tricycleblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/einsteins-quotes-on-buddhism/

Quote from: utunnels
XD, well, dude, but religion doesn't equal to religious people.

There are a lot of blind followers of a religion XD few of them are philosophers that can fully understand the theory and idea

A love quote:

Quote from: Rancho - Three Idiots
The skies will be clear and the weather pleasant, but if you've fallen in love then it's obviously gonna rain on you.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 04, 2010, 03:49:53 am
Code: (FaustWolf) [Select]
When I feel I don't know which way to turn, I usually try to ride the waves of inspiration. Hell yeah!  8)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 14, 2010, 08:28:22 am
Quote from: Karate Kid
Jaden Smith: You know the rules?!
Jackie Chan: Of course, we do! You hit him, but don't let him hit you.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 16, 2010, 01:30:07 am
Quote
Non-Pilot 1: Aviators have a saying: Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
Non-Pilot 2: Any landing where you can reuse the plane is a good one.
Pilot: *snickers*
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 18, 2010, 12:04:12 pm
Haha this song is right up ZeaLity's alley. It's a little old but I kinda love it too.

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"Prayer" was inspired lyrically by two events. The first event was the death of vocalist David Draiman's grandfather, the second was the September 11 attacks, chiefly the response the clergy made to the events. Draiman explained, "Instead of consoling their flock, people [of the clergy] like Jerry Falwell and Oral Roberts chastised them and used the situation as a means of empowerment, saying it was our own fault because we're a decadent and promiscuous people. I just thought that whole notion is ridiculous."[1]  Therefore, "Prayer" is about a conversation between Draiman and God. In the conversation, Draiman is telling God to "bring it on" if he's trying to use pain to elicit a response from Draiman.[1]

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Another dream that will never come true
Just to compliment your sorrow
Another life that I've taken from you
A gift to add on to your pain and suffering
Another truth you can never believe
Has crippled you completely
All the cries you're beginning to hear
Trapped in your mind, and the sound is deafening

Let me enlighten you
This is the way I pray


Living just isn't hard enough
Burn me alive inside
Living my life's not hard enough
Take everything away
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 23, 2010, 02:43:04 am
Quote from: I'll make a man out of you
Tranquil as a forest
But on fire within
Once you find your center
You are sure to win
You're a spineless, pale, pathetic lot
And you haven't got a clue
Somehow I'll make a man out of you

We must be swift as the coursing river
With all the force of a great typhoon
With all the strength of a raging fire
Mysterious as the darkside of the moon
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on July 28, 2010, 08:01:35 pm
Quote from: Jean Valjean
Frogs all follow a very firm moral coade! (sic)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on August 14, 2010, 05:08:53 pm
When you look out into the night sky...you can see the stars far away.  You're seeing them, because of the light which has travelled from them to you.  Now, it takes time for light to travel here.  So what we're doing is seeing the stars as they were in the past, the amount of time it's taken the light to reach us.  And the further and further away those stars are, the further back in time we're looking.  Now...we're seeing...a star say 6000 years ago...imagine somebody on that star, looking at us.  They would bee seeing us as WE were, 6000 years ago.

Which one of those two is now?

Though Space and Time are linked together, because...we are looking across space, we are looking back in time.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 19, 2010, 01:33:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWysqDbkWok

Quote
I have always wondered how the 80's were. I wish I could have experienced the 80s.

Quote
I wish i was living durning this era, i love this shit

God, I love sharing in others' wish to have lived in the 80s. What a feeling.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on August 21, 2010, 07:26:37 pm
Quote from: Victor Hugo
There are those who have no luck. Christopher Columbus cannot attach his name to his discovery. Dr. Guillotin cannot detach his from his invention.

LOVE IT.  XD
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on August 21, 2010, 08:20:41 pm
Hah! "Your physician today will be Dr. Guillotin. Please proceed to the Examination Room."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on August 21, 2010, 09:03:31 pm
Patient::  0____0  "Um...on second thought...I think I'll just live with this illness."  /rushes out of hospital
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 25, 2010, 09:58:27 pm
So I'm browsing http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2930579.htm, and I see:

Quote
Quote of the Week

"to live for some future goal is shallow. It’s the sides of the mountain that sustain life, not the top."   - Robert M. Pirsig

el oh el, what a misguided notion and weak metaphor.

Quote from: Napoleon Hill
There is one weakness in people for which there is no remedy. It is the universal weakness of lack of ambition.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on November 07, 2010, 05:43:30 pm
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Your arguments have reminded me how precious the right to choose is. And because I've never been one to play it safe, I choose to try.

(http://tessarexroat.com/glint/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Jean-Luc-Picard.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 13, 2010, 06:49:11 pm
Quote
  Faust.  Where are you damn’d?   
  Meph.  In hell.   
  Faust.  How comes it then that thou art out of hell?   
  Meph.  Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.   
Think’st thou that I who saw the face of God,           75
And tasted the eternal joys of Heaven,   
Am not tormented with ten thousand hells,   
In being depriv’d of everlasting bliss?   
O Faustus! leave these frivolous demands,   
Which strike a terror to my fainting soul.

Let me emphasize the point.

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Meph.  Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.

Marlowe was rad! Haha been listening to the audio book.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: rushingwind on November 15, 2010, 11:20:11 pm
Quote from: J. K. Rowling (Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets)
It is our choices ... that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on November 16, 2010, 03:11:20 am
Quote from: Hilarious person from TV Tropes on the "Did You Just Index Cthulhu" page.
That is not dead which can eternal vex,
And with strange aeons even death may index.

Bahahahaha.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 09, 2010, 09:26:10 am
Quote from: Gautama Buddha
You should not become dogmatic. As the wise test gold by burning, cutting and rubbing it (on a piece of touchstone), so are you to accept my words only after examining them and not merely out of regard for me.

Quote from: News
In an era when religions tend to divide people, with each believer quoting his own dogma or sacred scripture, the Dalai Lama is a firm believer that all the religious traditions and texts need to be 'tested'. It is why the Tibetan leader initiated a dialogue between science and spirituality last week in Delhi.

http://sify.com/news/the-gift-that-the-world-needs-from-india-a-nalanda-renaissance-news-columns-kmdpxEihfia.html
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on December 10, 2010, 01:48:04 pm
Quote from: News
In an era when religions tend to divide people...

As opposed to all those other centuries. =P
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 10, 2010, 03:12:59 pm
As opposed to all those other centuries. =P
XD Maybe, but unlike today not all religion/culture have discriminated against each other in the past. True, there were some AND they were horrible, but there have been pretty awesome influences too.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on December 10, 2010, 07:02:03 pm
Quote from: William O. Douglas
The great and invigorating influences in...life have been the unorthodox: the people who challenge an existing institution or way of life, or say and do things that make people think.

Heh, I wonder how many times this has been posted in here already?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 20, 2010, 05:51:47 pm
Quote from: David Wong
Even weirder? Free will. Remember, to a neuroscientist, free will is every bit as real as the Tooth Fairy. They can watch your neurons light up at the moment you make moral decisions, can trace the exact electrochemical pathways. If there is nothing beyond the physical, then your ability to choose your actions vanishes along with God and Heaven and the angels. It was an atheist professor who told me that, in a class on ethics.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on_p3.html#ixzz18gpU2Z8f
I was right all along. Heh, this brings new meaning to "Ghost in the Shell". LOL this also brings evidence to origins of originality and why derivatives and inspirations are usually way to go: we can't EVER think anything from scratch. Something or the other always influences us to do something. It's like an endless domino in our minds.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on February 06, 2011, 10:02:36 am
Just because I love this quote so much...

Quote from: Chulbul "Badass" Pandey
(Translated) I'll put so many holes in ya that you'd be confused where to breathe from... and where to... fart from. *giggles like a school girl*
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on February 06, 2011, 12:16:42 pm
Just a few that I thought were funny from a rather entertaining book (http://www.amazon.com/I-Hate-Fun-Mifflin-Lowe/dp/0843128852).

Quote from: Samuel Johnson
"Being on a boat is like being in jail, except a man in jail usually has more room, better food and commonly better company."

Quote from: Rene Descartes
"Much of Man's misery may be attributed to a simple inability to remain happily alone in a room by himself."

Quote from: Oscar Wilde
"The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable."- Oscar's views on fox hunting

Quote from: H.L. Mencken
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."

One of my favorites:

Quote from: Mark Twain
"Golf is a good walk, ruined."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: GenesisOne on February 13, 2011, 11:14:39 pm

Quote from: Unknown
He who ceases to be better ceases to be good.

Quote from: Gene Siskel, in response to someone defending a questionable film review who said "after all, it's just opinion"
There is a point when a personal opinion shades off into an error of fact.

Quote from: Roger Ebert
What I believe is that all clear-minded people should remain two things throughout their lifetimes: Curious and teachable.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Samopoznanie on February 14, 2011, 02:48:36 am
Quote from: Richard Nixon, in 1971
‎"Homosexuality, dope, and immorality are the basic enemies of a strong society, and that's why the Russians are pushing it here, in order to destroy us."
One of my favourite political leaders when it comes to quoteable -isms.  :lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on February 16, 2011, 01:07:11 am
O, how many of our presidents would have been so immeasurably better if but they had never said a word!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on February 16, 2011, 01:29:34 am
Quote from: Richard Branson's 2nd Autobiography
Remember, also, that the world is full of people who want to put you right, who want to play the realist to your wide-eyed innocent. P. 110

You, the wide-eyed innocent, are like the boy who declared that the emperor wasn’t wearing any clothes. You are about to change everything. P. 127

Remember: complexity is your enemy. Any fool can make something complicated. It is hard to make something simple. P. 166

There is such a thing as enlightened self-interest, and we should encourage it. It is possible to turn a profit while making the world a better place. P. 289

But I felt, and I still feel, it’s more important to do what you believe to be right in life, and if this contradicts your business interests, so be it. Business can’t be allowed to float above ordinary morality. P. 298

The scale of one’s social investments doesn’t matter. What matters is that you operate as a force for good at every scale available to you. An AIDS policy rolled out across the staff of your business is as important as an AIDS policy rolled out across the entire Virgin Group, or across an entire nation. The important thing is to have the idea, and realize it, however modestly. P. 299
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 04, 2011, 01:49:23 am
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NO. NO. Dude. do not make me angry. I am already mad as it is ... now please leave me alone I am already grow tired of this.

Looooooooooooooooooove iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on March 04, 2011, 02:14:04 am
Quote from: Arlo Guthrie, [i]'Alice's Restaurant Massacree'[/i]
I said, 'Shrink... I wanna kill. I mean, I wanna kill. I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead, burnt bodies. I mean kill! Kill! KILL!' and I started jumpin' up and down, yellin' 'KILL! KILL!' and then the shrink started jumpin' and we was both jumpin' up and down, yellin' 'KILL! KILL!' And then the sergeant walked in, set me down and pinned a badge on me and said, 'You're our boy.'

Great song by the greatest hippie in the history of hippies.
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Post by: Mr Bekkler on March 04, 2011, 03:18:16 am
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NO. NO. Dude. do not make me angry. I am already mad as it is ... now please leave me alone I am already grow tired of this.

Looooooooooooooooooove iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
:-D :lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on March 04, 2011, 04:24:53 pm
Quote from: T. E. Lawrence
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on March 04, 2011, 09:27:04 pm
Quote from: T. E. Lawrence
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible.

I love that quote.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on March 06, 2011, 01:48:51 am
this whole thread just makes me smile.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on March 06, 2011, 04:15:02 am
Quote from: T. E. Lawrence
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible.

I love that quote.

Me too.



Quote from: Albert Szent-Györgyi
"Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought".

Quote from: Jorge Luis Borges
"Writing is nothing more than a guided dream."

Quote from: Friedensreich Hundertwasser
"When one dreams alone, it is only a dream. When many dream together, it is the beginning of a new reality."

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: wiz Khalifa on March 06, 2011, 06:34:17 am
Quote from: Richard Nixon, in 1971
‎"Homosexuality, dope, and immorality are the basic enemies of a strong society, and that's why the Russians are pushing it here, in order to destroy us."
One of my favourite political leaders when it comes to quoteable -isms.  :lol:

Ayo did you know back in the day Nixon commissioned some scientists and doctors to do a study on my favorite thing in da whole wide world (WEED) to see if it was harmful or not? (like you need to take more than 5 min to discover that lol)
Long story short, the researchers came back saying that marijuana was more beneficial than it was harmful. Nixon didnt personally agree so he threw da whole report out, *smh* Guess dat cat was expectin the team to come back all sayin smokin pot will make you retarded or some ish. Fuck Nixon :evil:

white boys say some crazy shit sometimes (No Homo)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on March 06, 2011, 12:38:07 pm
I will get this shirt.

(http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/cartoons/611_magikarp-kills-us-all.gif)

Also, here's one to blame on 4chan.

Quote from: Troll
"I hate double standards. Why is it that if a woman goes and has sex with a bunch of men, she's called a slut, but if a man does it he's called a homosexual?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on March 06, 2011, 10:10:14 pm
Ayo did you know back in the day Nixon commissioned some scientists and doctors to do a study on my favorite thing in da whole wide world (WEED) to see if it was harmful or not? (like you need to take more than 5 min to discover that lol)
Long story short, the researchers came back saying that marijuana was more beneficial than it was harmful. Nixon didnt personally agree so he threw da whole report out, *smh* Guess dat cat was expectin the team to come back all sayin smokin pot will make you retarded or some ish. Fuck Nixon :evil:

white boys say some crazy shit sometimes (No Homo)

While cannabis is not the all encompassing villain that it is sometimes made out to be, it would be a mistake to assume that it is innocent. Use increases ones risk for psychosis and prolongs expression of that psychosis: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21363868
There also seems to be a casual relationship (not to be confused with a causal relationship) between stroke and cannabis use, although the specifics of this relationship are not well understood.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on March 07, 2011, 06:36:15 am
white boys say some crazy shit sometimes (No Homo)
XDDD your dialect amuses me.  :lol: It's been so long since I've heard someone talk like that.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on March 07, 2011, 08:59:17 am
I've been watching Mad Men, and this quote really moved me.

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The only thing keeping you from being happy is the belief that you are alone.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on March 08, 2011, 01:25:03 am
Quote from: Cesare Pavese
A true revelation, it seems to me, will only emerge from stubborn concentration on a solitary problem. I am not in league with inventors or adventurers, nor with travelers to exotic destinations, The surest — also the quickest — way to awake the sense of wonder in ourselves, is to look intently, undeterred, at a single object. Suddenly, miraculously, it will reveal itself as something we have never seen before
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on March 08, 2011, 09:35:06 pm
As found in Keri Smith blog (http://www.kerismith.com/blog), I thought it was worth sharing 

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/licawolf/intelligent_fool.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on March 09, 2011, 02:47:14 am
LMFAO! That quote seems to be said by quite a lot of people, such as Schumacher, John Dryden, some guy named "Woody" and sometimes even Albert Einstein.

Who got it first?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: rushingwind on March 09, 2011, 05:23:35 am
white boys say some crazy shit sometimes (No Homo)
XDDD your dialect amuses me.  :lol: It's been so long since I've heard someone talk like that.

Come on down to the "Dirty" South (or The ATL) and you'll hear it everywhere.  :)


@Wiz Khalifa: What, a politician lying to us, twisting the facts to suit his own agenda? *gasp* Say it ain't so! (I don't believe a word those people say, most of the time.)

Can't speak to the pros/cons of weed, though. Never had it. Nothing against it, just never had it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on March 09, 2011, 12:03:41 pm
Licawolf, that quote really resonates me, though I AM definitely in league with the adventurers. That's what my poetry teachers tried to teach me to do, and sometimes what I try to do when I meditate, and I'm so bad at it. I am the product of 21st century techno-glitz ADD and a youth spent playing RPGs, and I want adventure, dammit. But awareness like that is deeply rewarding.

While cannabis is not the all encompassing villain that it is sometimes made out to be, it would be a mistake to assume that it is innocent. Use increases ones risk for psychosis and prolongs expression of that psychosis: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2136386

That's interesting, though of course cannibis has also been studied medicinally and proved to be very beneficial etc. etc. I'm just amazed that weed is outlawed when drugs like xanax or adderall are prescribed -- the effects of Xanax withdrawal, for instance, are awful, worse than any negative effect of cannabis...

That's hilarious about Nixon, at any rate. The man really seemed to think he could dictate reality by his random ass whims!

Quote from: John Ruskin
... those which are more perfect in their kind are always inferior to those which are, in their nature, liable to more faults and shortcomings. For the finer the nature, the more flaws it will show through the clearness of it; and it is a law of this universe, that the best things shall be seldomest seen in their best form.

vibrant individuality > stale notions of "perfection." At least me and my boy John think so.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on March 09, 2011, 05:45:51 pm
Quote from: Sir Francis Drake
Who seeks, by worthy deeds, to gain renown for hire:
Whose heart, whose hand, whose purse is pressed: to purchase his desire
If any such there be, that thirsteth after Fame:
Lo, here a mean, to win himself an everlasting name.

Who seeks, by gain and wealth, t’advance his house and blood:
Whose care is great, whose toil no less, whose hope, is all for good
If any one there be, that covets such a trade:
Lo, here the plot for common wea[l]th, and private gain is made.

He, that for virtue’s sake, will venture far and near:
Whose zeal is strong, whose practice true, whose faith is void of fear,
If any such there be, inflamed with holy care.
Here may he find, a ready mean, his purpose to declare:

So that, for each degree, this Treatise doth unfold:
The path to Fame, the proof of zeal, and way to purchase gold.

 :kz
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: wiz Khalifa on March 11, 2011, 06:49:44 pm
I'm just amazed that weed is outlawed when drugs like xanax or adderall are prescribed -- the effects of Xanax withdrawal, for instance, are awful, worse than any negative effect of cannabis...
i feel that yo, ive known too many cats who got messed up snortin adderalls n shit

"The Candle whose flame glows Twice as Bright burns away Twice as Fast..." - Shaquille "The Big Aristotle" O'Neal

Speed Kills. Thats Real Talk.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on March 11, 2011, 09:23:05 pm
That's interesting, though of course cannibis has also been studied medicinally and proved to be very beneficial etc. etc. I'm just amazed that weed is outlawed when drugs like xanax or adderall are prescribed -- the effects of Xanax withdrawal, for instance, are awful, worse than any negative effect of cannabis...

That's just western medicine for you. On two fronts, actually. First, there is the distrust of nature. People often assume that if there is a medical benefit to a plant, then that element would be extracted, refined, and put into a pill (which does exist for cannabis, just not in the United States). Second, there are the pleasant effects of the drug, quite apart from its medical pros and cons. This is more of an aspect of protestant culture, but there is the idea that if something is enjoyable then it must be bad for you. It is hard for people to get over either, and the latter prevents America from addressing the former.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on March 11, 2011, 11:51:33 pm
I'm just amazed that weed is outlawed when drugs like xanax or adderall are prescribed -- the effects of Xanax withdrawal, for instance, are awful, worse than any negative effect of cannabis...
i feel that yo, ive known too many cats who got messed up snortin adderalls n shit

"The Candle whose flame glows Twice as Bright burns away Twice as Fast..." - Shaquille "The Big Aristotle" O'Neal

Speed Kills. Thats Real Talk.

I've been "around the park" and tried a lot of things and have had unlucky friends who tried even more things and either got in some deep trouble or bad health, and I can say marijuana one of the safest "drugs" you can take in general. It's less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol, never mind the prescription meds. At least you know what's IN it. Mystery drugs are drugs you should never take. Seriously.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on March 16, 2011, 06:18:42 pm
i feel that yo, ive known too many cats who got messed up snortin adderalls n shit

Me too. I used to have a prescription for adderall and I am amazed at how widely it's prescribed. The stuff is speed. I've known far more abusers of prescription drugs -- which the abusers thought of as "medicine," note, because some doctor gave it to them -- than any other variety.

and in honor of burning brightly:

Quote from: Lord Byron
Tis to create, and in creating live
A being more intense, that we endow
With form our fancy, gaining as we give
The life we image, even as I do now.
What am I?  Nothing: but not so art thou,
Soul of my thought!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on March 19, 2011, 07:35:06 am
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Why does history keep repeating itself?

Because we weren't listening the first time!

Somehow that joke actually makes sense!

Quote from: Julius Caesar
What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also.

It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.

It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.

It is better to create than to learn! Creating is the essence of life.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on March 26, 2011, 04:49:56 pm
Quote from: “Walking on Water” by Derrick Jensen
I’ve heard it said that within our deathly culture, the most revolutionary thing anyone can do is follow one’s heart. I would add that once you’ve begun to do that–to follow your own heart–the most moral and revolutionary thing you can do is help others find their hearts, to find themselves. It’s much easier than it seems.

Time is short. It’s short for our planet–the planet that is our home–that is being killed while we stand by. And it is even shorter for all of those students whose lives are slipping away from them with every awful tick of the clock on the classroom wall.

There is much word to be done. What are you waiting for? It’s time to begin.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on March 29, 2011, 06:44:09 pm
Quote from: Stanley Kubrick
I will say that the God concept is at the heart of 2001 but not any traditional, anthropomorphic image of God. I don't believe in any of Earth's monotheistic religions, but I do believe that one can construct an intriguing scientific definition of God, once you accept the fact that there are approximately 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone, that each star is a life-giving sun and that there are approximately 100 billion galaxies in just the visible universe. Given a planet in a stable orbit, not too hot and not too cold, and given a few billion years of chance chemical reactions created by the interaction of a sun's energy on the planet's chemicals, it's fairly certain that life in one form or another will eventually emerge. It's reasonable to assume that there must be, in fact, countless billions of such planets where biological life has arisen, and the odds of some proportion of such life developing intelligence are high. Now, the sun is by no means an old star, and its planets are mere children in cosmic age, so it seems likely that there are billions of planets in the universe not only where intelligent life is on a lower scale than man but other billions where it is approximately equal and others still where it is hundreds of thousands of millions of years in advance of us. When you think of the giant technological strides that man has made in a few millennia—less than a microsecond in the chronology of the universe—can you imagine the evolutionary development that much older life forms have taken? They may have progressed from biological species, which are fragile shells for the mind at best, into immortal machine entities—and then, over innumerable eons, they could emerge from the chrysalis of matter transformed into beings of pure energy and spirit. Their potentialities would be limitless and their intelligence ungraspable by humans.
Amazing! This guy... this guy thinks the same way I do... or is it that I think the same as him? :shock:  The odds of me having similar, unique ideas like a dead director I've never heard about in my life before, especially considering the ongoing war between Atheists and Religious folks, it's... frightening...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 02, 2011, 03:16:36 pm
I believe all science will hopefully (eventually) point to the existence of God.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on April 02, 2011, 10:45:44 pm
You guys should look into Deism.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 03, 2011, 03:07:24 am
You guys should look into Deism.
I know, but the problem is that the belief completely contradicts my train of thought. XD (Yet, I don't really have anything against it)

I'm not even remotely religious, but nor am I an atheist either. You know of that "unnamed God" I keep talking about? The reason I call it "Unnamed" because I haven't known the true nature of it, yet the presence is certain. The concept of God that comes to my mind isn't an anthropomorphic character, but the "existence" of some organism or intelligence. Yet the beginning of the universe is either caused by this existence or is simply a correlation is still confusing. That said, I'm note saying that the existence of such God is absolutely certain, but that it has a big possibility based on my own observations.

I'm actually writing fiction based on these observations, and hopefully have it completed in time to give a better understanding and explanation.  :roll: Gah! I hate myself...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on April 03, 2011, 03:32:00 pm
I believe all science will hopefully (eventually) point to the existence of God.

Me too...





...

EDIT: Funnily enough, I think my forum rank changed to "Enlightened one" with this post  :P
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 03, 2011, 07:55:53 pm
How do you suppose that might work, "all science" somehow "pointing" to the existence of a god? That sounds like wishful thinking to me. Science describes phenomena. Astronomy might tell you how far away a star is, and what its composition is, by measuring various observable physical properties emanating from the star or influenced by the star. How is astronomy going to tell you about a deity? What units would we use? What equations would we derive?

For science to support the existence of a deity, that deity would have to exist in the first place, unless somehow the observation itself were capable of creating the deity. Second, the deity would have to be susceptible in some way to the instruments of science, tangible as it were, which as best I can reckon would either invalidate the entity from its supernatural "deity" status or would invalidate the scientific method itself (if the deity were to corrupt science to make itself knowable through physical factuality). Third, you would need some kind of physical hypothesis to test. More specifically, you would need something akin to a testable definition of the supposed god.

All of that is far-fetched enough as it is. But for all science, rather than some new branch of science, to support the existence of a deity, you would need to explain how all current science already does--or how, with modification, it would.

I suppose I can't blame religious people for wanting an instrument as powerful as science to prove the existence of their god, but have you actually thought about how that might work? Do you have a definition for "god"? Can you reconcile the paradox of measuring a supernatural entity using a natural evaluative methodology? Would you explain how existing science already does so?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 03, 2011, 11:02:00 pm
While I can't speak for how Boo meant it, at least from my perspective you are conflating "point to" with "prove." It is rather simple for science to point to the existence of God, although even as a Christian myself I maintain that it cannot prove such as thing. As I love analogies: textual analysis of the Gospels of Matthew and Luke point to Source Q, a now-lost source which informed certain aspects of both of them. While such analysis points to the once-existence of such a document, they do not prove that such a document ever existed. Science could "point to" the existence of God by providing data that is in-line with a hypothetical existence in which God does indeed exist.

The simplest answer to how science could point to the existence of God is through the Anthropic Principle: out scientific knowledge of the universe points to it being highly conducive to the development of sentient life. This is in accord with what one who believes in God would expect. Of course, this could only "point to" the existence of God and not "prove" it, since there are alternate explanations that are themselves quite valid. For example, the very fact that if the universe was hostile to sentient life, then we wouldn't exist to observe it nicely argues that the only universe in which we could be aware of the universe is one that is suited for life: since it is the only one we could find ourselves it, it is improper to take meaning from its general state. Thus, the anthropic principle, which is fueled by our scientific understanding of the universe, could point to the existence of God. But the problem is, it could also point to (in essence) Cincinnati.

All that being said, I must disagree with Boo. If he did mean that he hopes science would prove the existence of God, then I would object on the grounds that such proof would be to the contrary of every religion's teachings about the divine that I am aware of. Proof of the existence of God would go against Christian teachings about free will and the sort, for example. On the other hand, if he meant "points to" as I discussed above, then it is unnecessary. While the anthropic principle does indeed present a picture of the universe that is in-line with the existence of God, it isn't inarguably so. It ultimately depends on the meaning that the individual assigns to the phenomenon, same as now. As long as there are other legitimate explanations (that is, as long as science can only "point to" but not "prove"), the pointing will still be subjective. While it is possible that science might point to the existence of God more than it does now, the status of that pointing would remain unchanged.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 04, 2011, 03:05:45 am
But the problem is, it could also point to (in essence) Cincinnati.

That's a serious enough problem that it undermines the meaningfulness of the entire concept. The existence of anything (e.g. the physical world) which is claimed to derive from the existence of a deity, cannot be used as a proof of the existence of the deity, or even an implicit suggestion that such a proof could exist, as to do so would be evidently circular.

I disagree about the merits of distinguishing "points to" and "proves" in this instance. The distinction itself is valid, but because the former implies a claim about the latter, it's irrelevant. Science already "points to" the existence of the Christian god, "Cincinnati," and anything else we can postulate as having a natural existence. Clearly the suggestion was that science would somehow prove a divine premise, hence my questions pertaining to the difficulty in so doing. They were honest questions meant to provoke thought, even if I am skeptical that any defensible pro-religious answers are to be found.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on April 04, 2011, 03:23:34 am
Deism is very loose in that there is no practicing church, simply the acceptance that the concept of God is looked at way too literally, and that there is likely no person-shaped giant translucent deity waiting in the clouds, judging people. "God" doesn't have to be a sentient creature. Personally I feel that the laws of physics and other sciences that govern the universe and allowed for the miracle of life at all is in itself "God". It's as good a name as any other.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I really don't think science and religion have to be science vs. religion. Something a lot of people don't realize is if it's on paper in ink, it was written by a person, not a god. Imo, religious texts shouldn't be taken so seriously and literally that they causes fights or unhappiness.

I should note that I was raised secularly, for the most part, but we were vaguely Christian. We celebrated the Christian holidays (still do) and my parents were raised with religion pushed on them (actually one Catholic, one Protestant) and chose to let my siblings and I think and figure it out for ourselves. I've only been to church enough times to count on my two hands, and most visits were for funerals and weddings.

EDIT: for the page number
Quote from: Douglas Adams
42.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 04, 2011, 05:07:25 am
Quote from: Douglas Adams
42.

Heh, I just finished re-reading Joe's copy of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.  Coincidence!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 04, 2011, 05:29:02 am
@Lord J and Thought:  :lol: Don't wanna taint the thread, but let me tell you that so far as what we've seen there hasn't been a single concept which was entirely unreliable or false, and considering the amount of books we've had regarding Gods and Religion since the horizon of eras, it is safe to assume that these texts do point at some direction rather than exactly at what they imply. Just because we can't prove its existence doesn't mean we have evidence of its non-existence, and an outright rejection of a concept with no evidence is a major flaw in Absolute Rationalism. This once again brings the concept into Suspension Mode, which gives a new light at rational thinking. For instance, when you compare Physics to a framework (crazy, I know) and consider how Black Holes, heavy gravitational fields and Rifts affect them, this brings quite some results to your plate.

@Bekkler: Religion wasn't always evil and meaningless, Bekkler. People make em that way. Here in India, reading scriptures never made a Hindu. It's the values and understanding of a Hindu and its culture that counts. Hell, I never read Bhagwat Gita completely either.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 04, 2011, 05:38:45 am
...let me tell you that so far as what we've seen there hasn't been a single concept which was entirely unreliable or false, and considering the amount of books we've had regarding Gods and Religion since the horizon of eras, it is safe to assume that these texts do point at some direction rather than exactly at what they imply. Just because we can't prove its existence doesn't mean we have evidence of its non-existence, and an outright rejection of a concept with no evidence is a major flaw in Absolute Rationalism.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "so far as what we've seen." If you're talking about religious books, I would demand you defend your claim, because it'd be a very broad claim to make.

Your other claim, meanwhile, I understand all too well, as it is a classic fallacy employed far too often by religious people in their attempts at criticizing their critics. "I can't prove my god exists, but YOU can't prove it DOESN'T exist!" In a metaphysical sense that is a true statement if the deity in question exists, and a gibberish question otherwise, but either way it has no bearing whatsoever on the underlying question of the existence of the deity as claimed by the religious person. The burden of proof rests with that person, the one who claims there is a god, to prove that claim. It does not rest with the skeptic to prove that the other party's claim is false.

Deism is not really any better than theism from a philosophical standpoint. It may be less likely to inform religious fundamentalism, but we may only speak in probabilities, and so long as somebody maintains a faulty belief--or any belief--there is the potential for abuse and the likelihood of inconsistency on policy positions.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on April 04, 2011, 02:08:28 pm
Deism is very loose in that there is no practicing church, simply the acceptance that the concept of God is looked at way too literally, and that there is likely no person-shaped giant translucent deity waiting in the clouds, judging people. "God" doesn't have to be a sentient creature. Personally I feel that the laws of physics and other sciences that govern the universe and allowed for the miracle of life at all is in itself "God". It's as good a name as any other.

I think this is an excellent way to look at it. Whether there is a literal God or not just doesn't have to matter -- there is, if nothing else, the psychological experience of God, or gods, or sublimity/ecstasy, or spirituality in general, however you want to describe it. (I imagine what you're describing is what people really mean when they say 'science points to god'.) It is very real, it's just that most people think that we need to be very concretist about it for it to matter.

42!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 04, 2011, 02:38:31 pm
@Lord J: I'm at the hospital right now (and probably will be for a few more days), so I'll be brief.

Quote from: me
so far as what we've seen there hasn't been a single concept which was entirely unreliable or false
It means exactly what I said.  :P For instance, the story of Spiderman is entirely fiction, and as with every fiction everybody knows this shit isn't real. Then some kid comes by telling scientists (with no evidence whatsoever) that the concept of Spiderman IS possible in real life. One thing he got wrong is that radioactive spiders don't give you superpowers, but just because it is false doesn't mean the concept in itself is entirely false or unreliable. You see, genetic mutation/fusion and having the powers of a spider fused with a human is possible, but requires a much tedious, careful and methodical science. It's called Gene Splicing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering), and human experiments with that is illegal, but has been successful with animals (look up "Humster").

And it's not just with this concept; in the history of science we've all been baffled when some of the most ridiculous ideas have been accomplished by taking a different route or method, creating useful inventions and discoveries in its wake. And this has all been the result of "Limited Skepticism", that is rejecting something without evidence, but not rejecting the possibility of its existence. And this kind of thought has saved thousands of soldiers even in a battlefield when it was time to take quick, intelligent decisions.

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"I can't prove my god exists, but YOU can't prove it DOESN'T exist!"
You see, that's something I'd like to call an "Opposing Balance". Basically, when two sides are neutral about their own beliefs, when one side says something contradictory about the other the other would run the opposite direction finding a blank check to do the same. Meaning, if you reject an idea if it has no evidence, they will reject your rejection because you have no opposing evidence either. But this is flawed in one way.

You see, that's a flawed method of doing things. When neither sides have evidence doesn't mean that the opposing are wrong by default; it's common sense that when neither side has evidence the concept remains in "Suspended Mode" where the credibility remains neither with one party nor the other, but remains as a "possibility". Some folks (both religious, atheistic, or concerning any belief pertaining to a completely different area, such as a grocery store's product price) would argue that, for instance, if there's no evidence there isn't any Jack the Ripper means there IS a Jack the Ripper, or there's no evidence there is a Donut thus Donut does not exist, is actually a flawed way of getting about things. Remember the "Suspended Mode". Possibility is there to be exploited, to EARN it, not to blindly claim it.

That said, when you have no intention of telling people what to do, you're still free to muse on your own understandings and believe what you want to believe, even if it means you think there's a Boogie Man under your bed. You're obviously not going to agree with me on this, but I've seen more positive results than negative in these cases. Hehe, even here at the hospital.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kodokami on April 04, 2011, 04:06:34 pm
Deism is not really any better than theism from a philosophical standpoint. It may be less likely to inform religious fundamentalism, but we may only speak in probabilities, and so long as somebody maintains a faulty belief--or any belief--there is the potential for abuse and the likelihood of inconsistency on policy positions.

Does that make Deism inherently wrong? The same could be said, as you stated, for any belief whether theistic or not; each has the potential for abuse. In such a case where every belief is wrong solely due to a probability, what makes a belief right? Perspective?

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"I can't prove my god exists, but YOU can't prove it DOESN'T exist!"
You see, that's something I'd like to call an "Opposing Balance". Basically, when two sides are neutral about their own beliefs...

I wouldn't call that neutral. That example is an escalating conflict waiting to happen. Both sides still oppose the other regardless if either is correct.

---
Quote from: Wallace Stevens
I do not know which to prefer,
 The beauty of inflections
 Or the beauty of innuendoes,
 The blackbird whistling
 Or just after.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on April 04, 2011, 05:02:00 pm

...so long as somebody maintains a faulty belief--or any belief--there is the potential for abuse and the likelihood of inconsistency on policy positions.

Who's arguing that? All I claimed was that Deism is the name I gave to the way I see things. You're not going to change my mind with such a shaky argument. I'm sorry, J.

You're implying that if the entire world was atheist there would be NO potential for abuse or likeliness of inconsistency on policy positions, right? Well no two people are the same, even if they think similarly, and inconsistency IS life. As long as there's power and/or government AT ALL, there's potential for abuse.

I understand what you said, but I really don't get why you said it.

@Bekkler: Religion wasn't always evil and meaningless, Bekkler. People make em that way. Here in India, reading scriptures never made a Hindu. It's the values and understanding of a Hindu and its culture that counts. Hell, I never read Bhagwat Gita completely either.

I never said evil OR meaningless. Just that anything that's written down was done so by human hands, and because of that, cannot be 100% accurate. I do actually believe religion is important, a lot of people need it, and it has certainly attempted to place a system of morals into society. Whether it is successful or not is really all about how people interpret it and what they actually do about (or because of) it. I do realize I'm being very general , but I don't want to say any particular religion is more right or wrong than any other.
It's contextually significant in more ways than just what people believe in. It's helped shape society as we know it. For example, a trait common to every religion is storytelling. The art of telling a story to make a point is one that was crafted for thousands of years, thanks to religion. Every book, movie, comic, and commercial you see is influenced by religion, either by borrowing from it or trying to avoid it.

Some quotes from a fellow Deist, though I don't agree with everything he's said, these are great.

Quote from: Thomas Paine
It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving, it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.


Quote from: Thomas Paine
My mind is my own church.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 04, 2011, 09:28:47 pm
I wouldn't call that neutral. That example is an escalating conflict waiting to happen. Both sides still oppose the other regardless if either is correct.
If that was the case, Nikhil and I would have been sworn enemies today. XD You have NO IDEA of the conflicting views we have, and yet we decide to see each other's views and understand them rather than try to correct each other. You see, a person can't be 100% right, and often misses views which the opposing person knows, whether or not the opposition is right.

Things as "conflict just waiting to happen" can always be avoided in a proper mindset. But I see what you mean, nevertheless.  :)

@Bekkler: There was something similar I wanted to tell Lord J about when discussing about morality, but I couldn't find the time nor words to properly explain it. Religion actually has played a significant role in the expansion of morality (it can actually be credited for creating it too) since ancient times and has evolved into a stable state today. Believe it or not, it's not just out of fear of penalty or retribution that people don't stoop to crime today, it's morality in itself. And not because they fear going to hell either, but they fear to do bad in the first place. Some people just can't watch their victims suffer, and all this is being wired into human sentience.

Meh, I'm lacking sleep, so I'm probably not making any sense right now (it's been 24 hours without proper sleep now). Anywhos, here's a quote to make up for it.
Quote from: Sherlock - The Great Game
Sherlock Holmes: [after explaining a series of complicated deductions] The picture's a fake.
Dr. John Watson: [impressed] Fantastic.
Sherlock Holmes: Meretricious.
DI Lestrade: And a happy new year.
Quote from: Sherlock - The Great Game
Holmes: Look at that, Mrs. Hudson. Quiet. Calm. Peaceful. Isn't it hateful?
Mrs. Hudson: Oh, I'm sure something will turn up Sherlock. A nice murder. That'll cheer you up

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 04, 2011, 09:49:11 pm
First, a small point:

Clearly the suggestion was that science would somehow prove a divine premise...

If that was Boo’s suggestion, then I already addressed that. But I also used that possibility as a springboard for other interpretations. These are not mere fancies that I am putting forward for the sake of argument but actual positions that one can find out there in the real world (the fine-tuned universe/anthropic principle being particular manifestations).

Now for the meat:

I disagree about the merits of distinguishing "points to" and "proves" in this instance. The distinction itself is valid, but because the former implies a claim about the latter, it's irrelevant. ... Clearly the suggestion was that science would somehow prove a divine premise, hence my questions pertaining to the difficulty in so doing. They were honest questions meant to provoke thought, even if I am skeptical that any defensible pro-religious answers are to be found.

Your conflation of the terms confounds your stated intent. By discarding the distinction you lose the specificity that would allow the thought provoked from your questions to be meaningful.

You are quite right in highlighting the difficulties of using science to prove the existence of God, and this can be a useful avenue for people to explore, but it is a very small avenue. The only results, however, will be that the individual may gain a better understanding of what science can and cannot do, and that the individual will come to the conclusion that science can’t prove the existence of God. These are good things to know, but they are simple things and for the topic at hand do not have great ramifications.

However, by exploring the pointing-to’s of science, one can bring into greater focus one’s own perception of God and the relationship between that God and the universe. This requires that the investigator make specific claims about how the universe would be if God did exist, and then “test” those claims by comparing them to the universe. If I claim that God produces order, then I would need to see if there is order in the universe. If I claim that God desires free will, then I have to see if the universe allows for free will. And so on, and so forth.

“Proves” is a dead end, “points to” is where there can be actual investigation.

And for a final note:

The burden of proof rests with that person, the one who claims there is a god, to prove that claim. It does not rest with the skeptic to prove that the other party's claim is false.

The proof always rests with the person putting forward an argument, it does not matter what the argument is. If the believer is putting forward the argument that God exists, then yes, the burden of proof is theirs. But if the skeptic is putting forward the argument that the claim of the other party is indeed false, then the skeptic has the burden of proof. Of course, if the skeptic is just making a criticism rather than an argument, then that individual doesn't assume the burden of proof, but neither can a conclusion about the existence of God be drawn from that criticism.



@Lord J and Thought:  ...

Just to be clear, in case this in indication of a misunderstanding, I am not rejecting the existence of God. Rather, I support such a supposition. However, I do try to be careful with my claims and with what I can or cannot do with the evidence at hand.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 04, 2011, 11:54:06 pm
Quote from: Wallace Stevens
I do not know which to prefer,
 The beauty of inflections
 Or the beauty of innuendoes,
 The blackbird whistling
 Or just after.

"Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird" is one of my favourite poems of all time.  I love his image of "evening all afternoon."  So beautiful.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on April 05, 2011, 01:55:31 pm
Quote from: Waking Life
Man on the Train: Hey, are you a dreamer?
Wiley: Yeah.
Man on the Train: I haven't seen too many around lately. Things have been tough lately for dreamers. They say dreaming is dead, no one does it anymore. It's not dead it's just that it's been forgotten, removed from our language. Nobody teaches it so nobody knows it exists. The dreamer is banished to obscurity. Well, I'm trying to change all that, and I hope you are too. By dreaming, every day. Dreaming with our hands and dreaming with our minds. Our planet is facing the greatest problems it's ever faced, ever. So whatever you do, don't be bored, this is absolutely the most exciting time we could have possibly hoped to be alive. And things are just starting
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 05, 2011, 08:01:24 pm
@Thought: Ah, sorry if I had you think that way about my response, but I wasn't really accusing you or anything. :) Just a thought crossed my mind that I wanted to share. once again, sorry about that.

@Licawolf: Walking Life? Would you review that book/media to me? Because it reminds me of a beloved philosophy lightnovel/anime series I'm a big fan of: Kino's Journey!

Quote from: Kino's Journey
"Though I did not know the place,
I set out to find the land of my dreams,
Having arrived at the land of my dreams,
I found that I did not know the place."

One day, I'll write a similar genre novella like that.

Quote from: Kino's Journey
The Author: "The difference between reality and illusion is that illusions are which humans have created. Life begins when u make a distinction between yourself and others. From that moment, the world becomes a stage in which you are the main character. Yet all people exist in the illusion that they are the main character. But the world, cruel as it is, denies you that role of the main character. It’s quite a twist and everyone is burdened with this sad bit of irony. But there is one way to escape."
Kino: To not to be a main character, to be a smaller role, or…
The Author: "That’s right, to be an author."
Hermes: "You do know he’s crazy right?"
Kino: "All I know is that normal people would never become authors."
Quote from: Kino's Journey
"The world is not beautiful; and that, in a way, lends it a sort of beauty."

Anime transliteration: "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."
Quote
"Hermes": Don't you believe that sometimes anxiety creates nations?
"Kino": Anxiety?
"Hermes": Yes, anxiety. If people are afraid of the river, they will build a dike. It's the same thing.
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"Man:" The reason we hurt others is because we don't understand their pain.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on April 05, 2011, 08:45:22 pm
Waking Life is a movie by Richard Linklater about lucid dreaming and it uses a digital rotoscope animation technique he perfected later for A Scanner Darkly. Definitely a trippy movie.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on April 05, 2011, 11:59:00 pm
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@Licawolf: Walking Life? Would you review that book/media to me? Because it reminds me of a beloved philosophy lightnovel/anime series I'm a big fan of: Kino's Journey!

As Mr. Bekkler said, waking life (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243017/) is kind of a trippy film  :lol: An experimental movie that has only a very very vague resemblance to a plot at certain parts, but it's mostly only dialogue, characters talking about ideas, anecdotes, conversations... many of the scenes  seem to have no relation between each other, except for the fact that all these are being experienced by the main character, who seems to be unnable to wake up, trapped inside this bizarre dream, and he keeps waking up and waking up to another dream.  

The movie is very very weird, personally I think it's full of interesting ideas, but it can be very tiresome if you don't like this kind of thing, or if you're not in the mood for a 2-hour long pseudo-philosophical infodump :wink:

Kino's Journey sounds interesting! From your quotes i liked particularly this part:

Quote from: Kino's Journey
(...)Life begins when u make a distinction between yourself and others. From that moment, the world becomes a stage in which you are the main character. Yet all people exist in the illusion that they are the main character. But the world, cruel as it is, denies you that role of the main character. It’s quite a twist and everyone is burdened with this sad bit of irony. But there is one way to escape."
Kino: To not to be a main character, to be a smaller role, or…
The Author: "That’s right, to be an author."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 06, 2011, 04:19:31 pm
Thanks, Bekkler and Licawolf! :D Hah, sounds amazing! And it's also got an actress named Lorelei for some reason. Gorgeous name (and I say this because there's already a character by that name in my novel)! I'll take a look.

For some reason I've been obsessed with Sherlock Holmes and Baccano! these days, just as I was with Deathnote, Bartimaeus Trilogy and Chrono Trigger before. Though my obsession is healthy, because it makes me try and get to the level of competence of these great authors, in turn improving my own stories.
Quote from: BBC Sherlock
John: You get off on this. You enjoy it.
Sherlock: And I said "dangerous," and here you are.

Okay, the following is actually from Andrew Lane's version, Young Sherlock Holmes - Red Leech (http://www.amazon.ca/Young-Sherlock-Holmes-Red-Leech/dp/0330511998), which I had to type word for word because there's no online text. Ever wonder how Sherlock Holmes came to be such a genius? Who taught him all of his tricks and trades? Apparently his brother Mycroft Holmes and his teacher Amyus Crowe (American) were way smarter than he could ever hope to be. xD In this book, these three try to uncover a deadly assassin who killed Abraham Lincoln (not kidding).

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[Setting: Sherlock walks into the library where his brother Mycroft and teacher Amyus sat.]
Mycroft looked Sherlock up and down critically.
'You have been assaulted,' he said, 'and not by someone your own age.'
'Or from this country,' Amyus Crowe rumbled.
'In fact,' Mycroft said, glancing at Sherlock's shoes, 'there were two assailants. One of them was mentally deficient in some way.'
'And both were armed with pistols,' Crowe added.
'How do you know these things?' Sherlock asked, amazed.
'A trifling matter,' Mycroft said, waving his hand airily. 'Explaining it would waste time. More important is, where did you go and why were you attacked?'

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on April 07, 2011, 05:58:26 am
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[Setting: Sherlock walks into the library where his brother Mycroft and teacher Amyus sat.]
Mycroft looked Sherlock up and down critically.
'You have been assaulted,' he said, 'and not by someone your own age.'
'Or from this country,' Amyus Crowe rumbled.
'In fact,' Mycroft said, glancing at Sherlock's shoes, 'there were two assailants. One of them was mentally deficient in some way.'
'And both were armed with pistols,' Crowe added.
'How do you know these things?' Sherlock asked, amazed.
'A trifling matter,' Mycroft said, waving his hand airily. 'Explaining it would waste time. More important is, where did you go and why were you attacked?'

Ha ha ha!  :lol: they totally owned Sherlock!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 07, 2011, 07:13:28 am
I don't think I'd enjoy reading something about Mycroft being smarter than Sherlock, but it is an interesting premise nonetheless.  I just like my canon Sherlock too much.  ; )
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on April 07, 2011, 11:20:07 am
tushantin, since you said you were into lucid dreaming, I can virtually guarantee you'll like Waking Life.

Wallace Stevens is my homeboy.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 07, 2011, 04:30:38 pm
I don't think I'd enjoy reading something about Mycroft being smarter than Sherlock, but it is an interesting premise nonetheless.  I just like my canon Sherlock too much.  ; )
Actually, Mycroft is smarter than Sherlock even in the canon universe, in the books.  8) Which is why he's my idol. If you've seen the Jeremy Brett's adaptation where Mycroft shows up you'd also see his deductions are far more accurate than his younger brother's. But the reason that there's no "Adventures of Mycroft Holmes" is because that guy just HATES any physical exertions; he'd rather sit in his office all day and make his agents do the dirty job, while solving problems with his mind alone. Watching an obese guy all day without violent and gruesome adventures would be boring, no matter how smart or influential he is.

Though he is modest and physically lazy, he represents the British government, and at times, is the government: he's got a lot more power than you can imagine. I'd actually say that Andrew Lane has done a pretty accurate job of portraying the brothers.  :lol: Don't forget that Sherlock is just 14 years of age at the time this scene takes place, and thus Mycroft is someone the little guy looks up to.

@Syna: Thanks! Lucid dreaming is a really narrow lane for me, with a big chance of falling in either side (absolute sleep and consciousness). But what's really amazing about it is that while in that state I'm capable of visualizing dreams in such vibrancy and detail it really isn't possible when I'm either awake or asleep, and also capable of shaping them to my will.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 07, 2011, 08:45:17 pm
BOO TO ME!  ><  I should really brush up on my Holmes reading, since it's been ages since I read any of Conan Doyle.  My ten-year-old self would bitchslap me right now.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 08, 2011, 12:09:49 am
Haha you can always start with this TV Movie, Sherlock, starring Benedict Cumberbatch and directed by Steven Moffat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSQq_bC5kIw). It's the next best adaptation after Jeremy Brett's series, even though it takes place in modern times instead. Well not too different, really: instead of telegrams, he texts via phones, and instead of writing for newspapers, Watson writes a blog. :D

But if you'd still like to read the canon ones, there's always online texts. Here's the first novel, Study in Scarlet (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/244).
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 08, 2011, 12:10:22 am
"Hey, physicist!"
"What is it? I'm busy."
"I need you to invent a time machine."
"But I'm playing with theoretical bosons! Why do you need a time machine?"
"So I can go kick my future self in the ass for getting rusty on her Doyle!"
"How do you know she's going to get rusty?"
"Because she came back in time to tell me not to let it happen."
"I'm not sure I want to mess with this. How about a nice volume of TV Guide?"
[censored]
"Okay, one time machine coming right up!"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 09, 2011, 05:21:09 pm
Another from Young Sherlock Holmes - Red Leech
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Fourteen years-old Sherlock: "I think there's always danger, wherever you go. You can either ignore it or wrap yourself in blankets so it doesn't hurt you, or you can walk towards it and dare it to do its worst. If you do the first thing then the danger takes you by surprise. If you do the second thing then you spend your time swaddled up in the dark, letting the world pass you by. The only logical course of action is to go towards the danger. The more you get used to it, the better you can deal with it."
Mind you, that scene takes place right after the horse chase (and what an awesome one at that!) where Mycroft apologizes for not taking care of Sherlock properly, and Sherlock is more grateful towards Mycroft for never letting him down. Heh, a touching brotherhood scene.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on April 10, 2011, 04:52:31 am
Quote from: C.S. Lewis
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 10, 2011, 06:48:30 am
C.S. Lewis was a pretty good writer.  I just wish his children's books weren't so godawful.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on April 10, 2011, 12:01:30 pm
That quote is awesome. C.S. Lewis would have been so utterly cool if he had embraced his pagan tendencies learned to stop "converting" myths in to Jesusdom and lobotomizing them in the process..
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 10, 2011, 05:38:49 pm
Ah, C.S. Lewis, also known as "Jack" in the family, who was born the same year Lewis Caroll passed away. And Lewis Caroll was once suspected to be "Jack the Ripper", though the suspicion was dropped eventually. Coincidence? I think so, yes.  :lol:

Ah, another character appears! Rufus Stone, the guy who eventually gets Sherlock interested in Violin. At this scene, of course, he simply appears. Sherlock doesn't know who this stranger is.
Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Red Leech
Rufus: (Salutes casually) "The start of an adventure!"
Sherlock: (Calls aloud past the deafening crowd) "Eight days at sea with nothing to do but walk around and read books. Not much of an adventure."
Rufus: "Ah, but think of the miles and miles of water that will lie beneath us as we travel. Think of the wrecks of other ships that litter the bottom of the sea, and the strange creatures that swim there, in and out of the portholes and around the bones of drowned sailors. Adventure is all around, if you know where to look. And if all else fails, I can take some time to practice my music on deck, beneath the stars, and serenade the mermaids."
Sherlock: "Mermaids? More likely to be dolphins, or some other kind of marine life."
Rufus: (Smiles) "A man can dream."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 12, 2011, 02:59:22 am
Quote from: Molly Lambert
Privilege is the absence of equality. The mainstream misogynist culture attacked Yoko Ono because John Lennon dared to suggest that she was an artist on the same level as himself, equally as important as he was in the world. That her ideas were just as if not more valuable than his. That his consciousness and practice were being expanded through collaborating with her, similar to (and building on) the way it had been expanded through his songwriting and friendship with Paul McCartney. Mainstream culture privileges bromance over romance because it privileges men over women.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 12, 2011, 08:03:04 pm
That quote is awesome. C.S. Lewis would have been so utterly cool if he had embraced his pagan tendencies learned to stop "converting" myths in to Jesusdom and lobotomizing them in the process..

Other than Till We Have Faces/Cupid and Psyche, what other myths did he "convert"?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on April 12, 2011, 08:43:17 pm
Mostly referring to the gotta catch em all approach to pagan myths he took in Narnia.

Ironically enough, I enjoyed Til We Have Faces; that book has tremendous depth to it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on April 13, 2011, 12:48:42 am
Quote from: Charles Manson
The real strong have no need to prove it to the phonies.

Yeah, I know he's a total nut, but some of the stuff he says tends to be inspiring.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 13, 2011, 06:53:51 am
Quote from: Brad Pitt, Fight Club
You decide your own level of involvement.
Hehe, I say this quite a lot of times when some people want to enjoy benefits without taking any responsibilities and start complaining about it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on April 13, 2011, 01:45:39 pm
Quote from: Charles Manson
The real strong have no need to prove it to the phonies.

Yeah, I know he's a total nut, but some of the stuff he says tends to be inspiring.

That's what makes crazy people dangerous. They convince you they're not crazy and then you're one of them!

Manson is really intriguing because of his KIND of crazy. I watched several interviews with him and one idea he spouted out was that a jail is a crime factory. If you think about it, that's actually a thoughtful, poignant claim about keeping murderers and rapists the same place as drug offenders and nonviolent criminals, and how that kind of networking doesn't actually rehabilitate anyone. But then he starts yelling "Blahbloogobbledygook" while dancing with his hands in the air to his own mental image of what music must be like on the outside. Yeah, he's effin nuts.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on April 13, 2011, 01:58:37 pm
This conversation made me think of this

Quote from: Dr. House
If you keep on thinking that insane guys have hidden wisdom, you're going to wind up shooting people on the subway.

:P Of course, Dr. House actually finds insane people quite fascinating himself, so whatever.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 13, 2011, 02:15:44 pm
That's what makes crazy people dangerous. They convince you they're not crazy and then you're one of them!

Manson is really intriguing because of his KIND of crazy. I watched several interviews with him and one idea he spouted out was that a jail is a crime factory. If you think about it, that's actually a thoughtful, poignant claim about keeping murderers and rapists the same place as drug offenders and nonviolent criminals, and how that kind of networking doesn't actually rehabilitate anyone. But then he starts yelling "Blahbloogobbledygook" while dancing with his hands in the air to his own mental image of what music must be like on the outside. Yeah, he's effin nuts.

Wait, are we talking about Charles Manson or Charlie Sheen?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 13, 2011, 03:22:00 pm
Ah, Manson. The ultimate Family man. He was right about the likelihood of a racial rebellion across the United States, but wrong (as yet) that whites would annihilate each other in the ensuing struggle and leave the Manson Family to rule the remainder of humanity from their hidden city beneath Death Valley.

This has been another edition of Good Deduction, Bad Deduction.

The truth of the matter is that many people often have insights into the course of our civilization, and others stumble into their prognostications by sheer chance, with the result being that there are plenty of people who have predictions for the future that time will uphold. It's not limited to brainwashing cultists.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 13, 2011, 09:12:31 pm
Manson is really intriguing because of his KIND of crazy. I watched several interviews with him and one idea he spouted out was that a jail is a crime factory. If you think about it, that's actually a thoughtful, poignant claim about keeping murderers and rapists the same place as drug offenders and nonviolent criminals, and how that kind of networking doesn't actually rehabilitate anyone. But then he starts yelling "Blahbloogobbledygook" while dancing with his hands in the air to his own mental image of what music must be like on the outside. Yeah, he's effin nuts.

That's insanely creepy... I was just having that exact same conversation last night--about the prison system, not Manson.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on April 14, 2011, 02:38:18 am
Well he has the advantage of spending every waking second in a prison and no doubt every lucid thought he can possibly have now is about prison, he might have a pragmatic thought or two about said system. My point was that underneath that skin of possible sanity lies a pool in which nobody should swim.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 14, 2011, 04:16:32 am
My point was that underneath that skin of possible sanity lies a pool in which nobody should swim.
That's... my kinda buddy!  :D We should totally get acquainted with this Charles Manson bloke.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on April 14, 2011, 05:32:42 am
That's... my kinda buddy!  :D We should totally get acquainted with this Charles Manson bloke.

I don't think that was what Bekkler meant...
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Post by: tushantin on April 14, 2011, 05:59:16 am
That's... my kinda buddy!  :D We should totally get acquainted with this Charles Manson bloke.

I don't think that was what Bekkler meant...
But that's totally what I mean. XD Even though I'm freaked out by potentially insane people (one mentally unstable chick once slapped me for no reason), the factor appeals to me somewhat. Gives me chills. Gives me thrills.

Insanity is an underlying theme of my novels, even though some of them are Young Adults. Thing is, when you remove insanity entirely from the equation, we cease to be human, and the world just falls apart.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on April 14, 2011, 02:08:18 pm
Well, insanity is sort of a by-product of civilization, I think. It's like rebooting with Safe Mode on so no changes can be made by the outside.

However I've never been insane so I don't know entirely. I have had some extremely unstable girlfriends, a few of whom would love to see me lose my mind, and if you became friends with someone like that, well, good luck.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 14, 2011, 02:28:40 pm
Thing is, when you remove insanity entirely from the equation, we cease to be human, and the world just falls apart.

If you tried a little harder, you could be exactly wrong. What do you mean when you use the word "insanity"?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on April 14, 2011, 02:34:26 pm
Everest didn't get smaller for those who climbed it.  Hollywood didn't get easier for those that made it.

8/7
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 14, 2011, 02:53:22 pm
Quote from: G.K Chesterton
The madman's explanation of a thing is always complete, and often in a purely rational sense satisfactory. Or, to speak more strictly, the insane explanation, if not conclusive, is at least unanswerable; this may be observed specially in the two or three commonest kinds of madness. If a man says (for instance) that men have a conspiracy against him, you cannot dispute it except by saying that all the men deny that they are conspirators; which is exactly what conspirators would do.

Quote from: G.K. Chesterton
Imagination does not breed insanity.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 14, 2011, 05:48:33 pm
No, Bekkler, insanity isn't a by-product of civilization; it's a by-product of sentience itself.  :twisted: Which is why it excites me. But you misunderstand me; I didn't really mean you have to make friends with people like that (I meant it as a joke, by the way), and usually those who lost their marbles aren't capable of surviving on properly their own. Just saying that people like Charles are interesting.  :)

If you tried a little harder, you could be exactly wrong. What do you mean when you use the word "insanity"?
Sorry, not to offend you or anything, but you're too rational for this philosophy. xDDD And chances are, you're not going to agree with me (I can guarantee this by 87%). And you'd be right. And you'd also be wrong. Though I can provide you some quotes:
Quote from: Mark Twain
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.

Once I talked to the inmates of an insane asylum in Hartford. I have talked to idiots a thousand times, but only once to the insane...

No one is sane, straight along, year in and year out, and we all know it. Our insanities are of varying sorts, and express themselves in varying forms--fortunately harmless forms as a rule.

Heaven knows insanity was disreputable enough, long ago; but now that the lawyers have got to cutting every gallows rope and picking every prison lock with it, it is become a sneaking villainy that ought to hang and keep on hanging its sudden possessors until evil-doers should conclude that the safest plan was to never claim to have it until they came by it legitimately. The very calibre of the people the lawyers most frequently try to save by the insanity subterfuge ought to laugh the plea out of the courts, one would think.
Quote from: Mark Twain - Christian Science
..we all know that in all matters of mere opinion that [every] man is insane--just as insane as we are...we know exactly where to put our finger upon his insanity: it is where his opinion differs from ours....All Democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it. None but the Republicans. All the Republicans are insane, but only the Democrats can perceive it. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.

Quote from: Bruce Feirstein
The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.
Quote from: Seneca
There is no great genius without some touch of madness.
Quote from: Ralph Waldo Emerson
The sanity of society is a balance of a thousand insanities.
Quote from: Jean Debuffet
For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity.
Quote from: Georges Clemenceau
In order to act, you must be somewhat insane. A reasonably sensible man is satisfied with thinking.
Quote from: Henry Ward Beecher
No man is sane who does not know how to be insane on proper occasions.
Quote from: T.S.Eliot
Where does one go from a world of insanity? Somewhere on the other side of despair.
Quote from: Winston Churchill
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.
Quote from: Ambrose Bierce
All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
Quote from: Carl Gustav Jung
Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you
Quote from: Nikos Kazantzakis
A person needs a little madness, or else they never dare cut the rope and be free.
Quote from: Sam Levenson
Somewhere on this globe, every ten seconds, there is a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped.
Quote from: Voltaire
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
Quote from: Bill Watterson
Sometimes I think that the greatest sign that there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe is that it hasn't tried to contact us yet.

Just read up and wonder if you, or me, or anybody in this forum, is sane. *grins* Welcome to hell.

Everest didn't get smaller for those who climbed it.  Hollywood didn't get easier for those that made it.
8/7
Man, that's a rad quote! O.O"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 14, 2011, 06:10:20 pm
Quote from: Raymond Chandler
The truth of art keeps science from becoming inhuman, and the truth of science keeps art from becoming ridiculous.
And Da Vinci really NU this! :wink:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 14, 2011, 07:08:22 pm
I await your actual definition of "insanity."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 15, 2011, 03:54:27 am
Insanity is of the disturbed, unsound mind. Insanity is an abnormal, unhealthy behavior. Insanity defies logic; it doesn't make sense. Insanity is different from what you observe in society, still making no sense. Insanity is psychotic, and sometimes violent. Insanity pertains to seeing things that do not exist. Insanity is imagination at its best, an imagination that tends to overpower you. Thrill you. Control you. Control the world. Insanity has controlled decisions that hold no logical grounds, despite the intellect of the one making them. Insanity has ordered the slaughter of many, for the sake of the weird feeling it gets. Insanity has provoked art and literature in the weirdest fashions that the author almost believed his fiction, and that fiction ended up being adapted into various films reaping riches off the story that doesn't belong to them. The insane wasn't rewarded; that's insanity. Morality has no specification: that's insanity. Insanity is the urge to fall when you know you're safe. Insanity is walking into the fire, challenging fate. Insanity is boundless, overpowering, ever-consuming, always struggling and striving to break its cages. And be free.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 16, 2011, 05:54:34 pm
Quote from: H.P. Lovecraft
Ocean is more ancient than the mountains, and freighted with the memories and the dreams of Time.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on April 16, 2011, 07:17:37 pm
Quote from: H.P. Lovecraft
"Men of broader intellect know that there is no sharp distinction betwixt the real and the unreal."

Translation: Err... something about the difference between intelligence and imagination, or something like that. But whatever, I already use my imagination a lot.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on April 16, 2011, 07:57:21 pm
Quote from: Paul Klee
Colour is the place where our brain and the universe meet.
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Post by: Tactinius on April 30, 2011, 05:48:10 pm
Quote from: a Frank Zappa interview
"Interviewer: 'So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?'

Frank Zappa: 'You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on May 11, 2011, 10:45:04 pm
Someone pointed me at 27b/6 website (http://www.27bslash6.com/function4sports.html) and I'm loving it to death.

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I am not answering my mobile phone at the moment as I am experiencing iPhone envy and every second spent using my Nokia is like being trapped in a loveless marriage. Where you stay together for the kids. And the kids all have iPhones.

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I read somewhere that a healthy breakfast helps concentration and have found, since replacing my usual diet of nicotine with froot loops, I am able to move small objects with my mind.

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I have been collecting lego blocks for nearly four years now as I intend to build my own home. I currently have exactly 1,692,008 blocks of various sizes and only need another 4,836,029 to complete plans of constructing a four bedroom home with sunken lounge and indoor swimming pool. Prior plans to build a home from seawater were abandoned due to physics.
The advantages of using lego blocks over traditional building methods, in regards to durability and gaiety of colour, are without question. The only issues are finding a block of land that has a flat green plastic base.

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I read somewhere once that cockroaches can survive a nuclear attack so I have been collecting the dead ones and intend to glue several thousand to the walls thereby ensuring my survival should Cyberdyne Systems become self aware between now and when the lease runs out.

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I just assumed you have cane furniture, doesn’t everybody? Cane is possibly one of the most renewable natural resources we have after plastic, it is not only strong but lightweight and attractive. Every item in my apartment is made of cane, including my television. It looks like the one from Gilligan’s Island but is in colour of course.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on May 13, 2011, 01:28:19 pm
Quote from: Dorthy, from the webcomic, Dumbing of Age
...adulthood sure is anticlimactic and boring
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tiny260 on May 13, 2011, 04:36:06 pm
Quote
Man: Why are you so optimistic all the time? Why always look on the bright side of things?
Me: Beats the alternative.
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Post by: Licawolf on May 31, 2011, 04:12:18 pm
Quote from:  Walt Disney
"Around here, however, we don't look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things, because we're curious... and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths."
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Post by: tushantin on May 31, 2011, 04:30:10 pm
Quote from: Bruce Lee
Boards don't hit back.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on June 01, 2011, 07:57:13 am
Found this fuckery::

Quote from: Charlie Chaplin
Our knowledge has made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness.

What bullshit.  This kind of backwards thinking really pisses me off.  Kindness does not discover remedies for illnesses.  Gentleness does not send shuttles out into the vast universe.  Knowledge and education do the world a lot more good than people being nice.

And the two things are not even mutually fucking exclusive!

Sorry, I pick knowledge and being clever over being an emotional sap.  Paint me a bitch, but knowledge will always hold a higher standard to me than being kind.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 01, 2011, 10:27:06 am
Found this fuckery::

Quote from: Charlie Chaplin
Our knowledge has made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness.

What bullshit.  This kind of backwards thinking really pisses me off.  Kindness does not discover remedies for illnesses.  Gentleness does not send shuttles out into the vast universe.  Knowledge and education do the world a lot more good than people being nice.

And the two things are not even mutually fucking exclusive!

Sorry, I pick knowledge and being clever over being an emotional sap.  Paint me a bitch, but knowledge will always hold a higher standard to me than being kind.
Actually, Saj, as much as I agree with you, Charlie has a point there. Though it's not knowledge that actually deeply affects our psyche, rather it's intelligence. Usually increase in intelligence has certain psychological side-effects which makes us seem like complete douchebags compared to an average Joe who'd empathize with you for whatever reason.

True, intelligence is an important factor for human progress, but let us not forget empathy and humanity, as it also plays a dominant role for our survival as a society. I might sound sentimental here, but empathy makes you happy, even if it doesn't cure everything in the world, and in turn spreads more joy.

Yes, I support our battle against stupidity, but first and foremost I'm a humanitarian. It is our connection with each other that gives us the power we have today.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tiny260 on June 01, 2011, 06:48:28 pm
Quote
Antagonist: You're still broken! You're nothing, you hear me?!
Coron: *Gives the finger* Oh piss off.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 02, 2011, 10:15:53 am
Found some good quotes from Bhagawad Gita (I had to actually find the pre-translated version, since I was too busy to do it myself).
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One who has control over the mind is tranquil in heat and cold, in pleasure and pain, and in honor and dishonor; and is ever steadfast with the Supreme Self.

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Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.
Heh, for so much I've seen in life, I realize not to question this bit.

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Fear Not. What is not real, never was and never will be. What is real, always was and cannot be destroyed.

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To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on June 02, 2011, 10:29:12 am
Actually, Saj, as much as I agree with you, Charlie has a point there. Though it's not knowledge that actually deeply affects our psyche, rather it's intelligence. Usually increase in intelligence has certain psychological side-effects which makes us seem like complete douchebags compared to an average Joe who'd empathize with you for whatever reason.

True, intelligence is an important factor for human progress, but let us not forget empathy and humanity, as it also plays a dominant role for our survival as a society. I might sound sentimental here, but empathy makes you happy, even if it doesn't cure everything in the world, and in turn spreads more joy.

Yes, I support our battle against stupidity, but first and foremost I'm a humanitarian. It is our connection with each other that gives us the power we have today.

I understand where you're coming from, and I realise that kindness plays an extremely important part in humanity's history.  I just didn't understand why Chaplin was painting the two as being mutually exclusive, because they are not.  There are just as many kind-hearted smart people as there are uneducated people who are rude as shit.

I'd still rather be the smart douchebag than the average empathetic Joe, though.  I'm a very committed misanthrope, which I know makes me a minority on this forum.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 02, 2011, 04:55:41 pm
Saj, I am not sure what you mean by "mutually exclusive", but I'll simply continue.

Consider the two most fundamental aspects of humanity which makes it superior to other species, which makes it special and great, and also which gives it its essence. The first, most basic aspect is empathy, giving humanity the liberty to think freely and differently, then combining those difference in thoughts to paint a bigger picture, to connect with people with sheer kindness, to enjoy the company with one another. Human beings are social in nature, and simply keeping a person alone will make it easier to break them. The second aspect, coming next in line but at a higher priority, is intelligence: our ability to think logically, calculate and choose paths, create and master tools, and providing means to progress. Both empathy and intelligence are two legs for humanity to stand on; take away one and it might lose its balance.

But there have been instances when one indirectly, and negatively, affects the other. Consider the growth of social bonding, or when society grows rapidly, despite the availability of knowledge source, responsibility is negated from individuals so much that intelligence does not matter. Yet, growth of intelligence also has psychologically negative effects on the mind where empathy is concerned. Of course, that does not mean a person can't prevent these negative reactions, and it takes a good amount of willpower and open mind to do it. Fortunately you have that, but unfortunately, not many do. Even when it comes to the debate over preference, despite the necessity of both, the dominant aspect will forever be empathy and human bond, because without intelligence humanity will merely cease to progress, but without empathy it will cease to survive. Without intelligence, empathy is lame. Without empathy, intelligence is blind.

Now consider where Charlie Chaplin comes from. XD He's one of the great pioneers of filmmaking! A legend! Hardly ignorant; the guy was a genius, so he should have the benefit of doubt, at least, as he actually knows what he's talking about. If you're looking for evidence on how intelligence affects empathy, I haven't any at the moment so you'll either have to search university journals or wait till I provide them to you. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Makes you a minority?  :( I'm the one who feels like an outcast here, someone who probably just doesn't belong here. Often I try to blend in as much as I can, only to fail. Maybe I'm selfish, or somehow rude, or I'm just different, I don't know. Sometimes I it makes me happy when people agree with me, not because of narcissistic reasons, but because it makes me feel glad that I'm not the only person to think that way. But all I know is that I'm a humanitarian, just like my grampa. If it makes me a hypocrite, I don't care. I'll stick to those philanthropist dreams till the very end.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on June 02, 2011, 06:19:21 pm
All Saj is saying is that you can be smart and that doesn't automatically make you mean. You can be dumb and that doesn't automatically make you nice. And you can flip that around all you want and it's still true. If you're nice, you're not necessarily dumb. If you're mean, you're not necessarily smart (but probably think you are :lol: !)

I would argue that both kindness and intellect should be valued. Do both when you can. Don't if you can't. Simple.



And tush, I don't think of you as an outcast or any different than anybody else on this forum, except I might call you one of the more active members. I do find it intriguing how the two of us don't see eye to eye nearly as often as we might with other people, it makes me suspect we're more similar to each other than either of us would be comfortable with in person, despite living almost on opposite ends of the world. In any case, I hope you don't feel alienated because of me arguing with you all the time. I rather like the different viewpoints.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 02, 2011, 09:14:13 pm
I saw this comment on YouTube:

Quote from: laoban1954
Alas, I think there are none to replace the Corries. And those of us left behind must be content, as much as we can be, by such recordings as these. Reminds me of Tolkien's:

Quote from: Tolkien
Where now the horse and the rider? where is the horn that was blowing?
Where is the helm and the hauberk and the bright hair flowing?
Where is the hand on the harp-string, and the red fire glowing?
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?
They have passed like rain on the mountain...

My natural inclination is rather against this kind of mindset, but it was so eloquently put, and, at least thus far, there really have been none to replace the Corries.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 03, 2011, 08:20:54 am
@Bekkler: I see what you mean, but going back to Charlie's statement, "Knowledge made us cynical," he is kind of right there. I mean, the affect is there and intelligence does affect empathy negatively, but that does not mean it indefinitely hinders it. Charlie isn't asking anyone not to be educated (he is a genius, remember), rather requesting everyone to always keep human bonds before intelligence and cherish them. Saj knows that. She wouldn't choose a Wikipedia article over D.  :lol: Hardly any of us would (except for some people).

As for the outcast thing, it is not about disagreement that I'm worried about. XD Actually, I welcome it! Arguments increase my knowledge base, challenges what I know and helps me understand things well thanks to conflicting views. No, what I'm actually worried about is blending in. You see, you post in any forums, make a topic, and right off the bat folks understand ya. I, for instance, usually have a hard time explaining something relatively simple, and yet fail miserably enough to have people misunderstand my statements. There is where I find it hard to blend in; while I can understand you folks, I usually fail to clarify my own statements. Worst case scenario, I hurt someone's feelings without meaning to.

Quote from: Bruce Lee
“Zen is not “attained” by mirror-wiping mediation, but by “self-forgetfulness in the existential ‘present’ of life here and now.” We do not “come”, we “are.” Don’t strive to become, but be.”

“If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.”

"Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one"

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on June 03, 2011, 08:37:30 am
@Bekkler: I see what you mean, but going back to Charlie's statement, "Knowledge made us cynical," he is kind of right there. I mean, the affect is there and intelligence does affect empathy negatively, but that does not mean it indefinitely hinders it. Charlie isn't asking anyone not to be educated (he is a genius, remember), rather requesting everyone to always keep human bonds before intelligence and cherish them. Saj knows that. She wouldn't choose a Wikipedia article over D.  :lol: Hardly any of us would (except for some people).

Actually, I value intelligence just as much as I value human connection with the (very few) people I love and trust.

And I meant a "minority" in the sense that probably most people on this forum view humanity as a collective whole in a positive light, whereas I truly, truly distrust and dislike humanity as a whole.  I love and trust those whom I've deemed "worthy" enough to trust.  Maybe that makes me sound like a bitch, but given my past I don't think it's irrational or bitchy.  But those whom I trust are a very small group of people.  I love a few people; I don't like the rest.

I don't feel like an outcast because of it.  I just have a different opinion than a lot of people here.  I feel like an outcast here in many ways, but that isn't one of them.  Minority isn't a synonym of outcast.  It just means outnumbered.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 03, 2011, 08:41:28 am
Minority isn't a synonym of outcast.  It just means outnumbered.

That's a quotable quote of its own.

We're a little bit different when it comes to our view of humanity. You seem to have a pretty clear and simple view; mine is still rather torn. Humans have a lot of potential, but it so often gets wasted in favor of anthro-trash. Much of the time that trash isn't just pitiable; it's actively a threat to the very civilization I aspire toward. In my writing, this dilemma is represented by two characters who are generally of a like mind on things, but take a different view when it comes to the premise of taking the rest of humanity along on the ride toward a better tomorrow.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on June 03, 2011, 10:53:10 am
Quote from: Tons and tons of folks
Ignorance is bliss.

In my experience, I've found this to be very true; it's not until you go and look around on the news, going online and happening upon criminal articles, finding biased official opinions, seeing all of the shit that's wrong with the world that you lose faith in humanity. Remember when you were a kid, and the world seemed to be an all-around good place? You weren't aware of war, of poverty, of famine. The closest you ever got to that was getting into a schoolyard fight, being grounded or not getting your snack in between lunch and breakfast. But once you grow more and more aware of what's going on around you, your world becomes more and more fucked up, you stop seeing everything through a rose-tinted glass, and you lose that happiness you gained in obliviousness. It's one reason why I honestly wish that I could be a kid again, just so that way I could go back to being blissfully unaware. The more you know, the more depressed you become.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on June 03, 2011, 11:47:18 am
Quote from: Scott L. Christensen
There will always be a barrier between what I see and what I am able to portray. This barrier keeps bringing me back to the canvas, carrying on a never-ending desire to express, in paint, what moves me inside.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on June 03, 2011, 09:07:49 pm
Ignorance may be bliss, but I'd rather be informed and unhappy than ignorant and content.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 03, 2011, 09:56:57 pm
Quote from: Tons and tons of folks
Ignorance is bliss.

That's true...but it's a terrible thing to aspire toward. I've spent my whole life moving away from ignorance; it never ends--and the reality beyond is, if at times anguishing, the only ground where you will ever be able to come to know what you can really be. I look upon the people who pine for bliss with amused disbelief and sometimes disgust.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on June 04, 2011, 12:26:23 am
I think it's more that I want to be a kid again than it is I'd like to be oblivious to everything outright. It's really immature of me I guess, but it would be one way to make myself much happier.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 05, 2011, 06:55:10 am
Not "happier." Blissful. Important difference.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 05, 2011, 07:53:19 am
Ignorance is bliss in various ways; think about it, if you know everything in the universe, if you're omniscient, then you'd see all the horrors of mankind, of life, of details, of magnificence, of stupidity, so much that it would numb your mind and you would further ahead refuse to think anymore. Humans falter easily with a mere horrid event that takes place in their lives. Imagine witnessing those horrors every second for eternity.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on June 05, 2011, 08:34:45 am
That doesn't seem like a very valid argument to me, seeing as no human being is omniscient...

I still stand by what I said.  Bring me truthful pain; don't feed me sweet lies.  I do not shrink away from knowledge, and it infuriates me when people shrink away from less-than-pleasant experiences they've heard about.  My ex-best friend's roommate overheard a conversation I was having with my ex-best friend about some of the things I've gone through.  The roommate later told EBF (because it's a pain in the ass to keep writing "ex-best friend") that he didn't want to know any more of what I had been through.  He didn't want to hear about it.  He didn't want to think about it.  He wanted to remain ignorant, and ignorant of awful things that happen in the US.

Well, he can sit in his comfy chair of ignorance, but I say fuck that.

Perhaps that makes me sound cruel, but I actually had to live through it, so don't shrink away from just hearing about it.

I've gone through horrible things and I've been exposed to pain and death and terrible poverty from infancy on, but I haven't faltered in the face of knowledge.  I saw friends starve to death as a child.  I've seen policemen shoot people in the head because some Hot Shot Rich Person told them to do so.  I lost my best friend when I was 13 to suicide, a friend when I was 16 to a heart failure, and I lost my daughter when I was 15.

Even still, I'd always choose knowledge over ignorance.  I've always chosen knowledge.

Believe me, my mind should have been numbed a long time ago due to all the things I've been through.  But I won't let it.  I don't want it to be numbed.  I would never refuse to think.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on June 05, 2011, 02:48:11 pm
Unfortunately, Saj, not everyone is as strong as you. People have lost the will to live and died for less things than you've experience (whether by their own hand or otherwise).
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on June 05, 2011, 09:03:26 pm
I agree with Saj, THIS (http://www.kchristieh.com/blog/images/bury_head_sand.jpg) is no way to live.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 06, 2011, 06:09:45 am
I wanted to tell Saj the other day how inspiring her post was, but the lights went out. It was a big post, trying to cheer her up, but right now I'm frustrated with my own position. But I will say this:

Saj, you're strong. Incredibly, and hard hearted, surviving things that ordinary folks wouldn't. My friend committed suicide just because he failed his exam (I admit, it was a stupid thing to do). If you were here, I bet you'd simply laugh at his grave. I have lost people in my life, but not as much as you did, but I can understand somewhat of how you feel.

And yet (not to offend you or anything) I would say is that what you went through was only 1% of the Hell that is earth. You have not yet seen the core of the grotesque nature of humanity, but those who have seen it have subsequently gone insane. You have seen all that is horrid about humanity. And yet again, I dare ask, have you seen the best of it? Have you seen its magnificence? It is much stranger than anyone can ever imagine, has more depth than anyone could ever describe. My goal in life is to seek through this magnificence, to travel and learn, and show it to people of just how amazing humanity can be. If it means to change the world, I will play a part in it. Even if it's a handful of people, I will make sure they don't suffer as much as you did. No woman deserves to suffer as much as you did.  :(
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 06, 2011, 06:21:51 am
UPDATE: There's an interesting insight on Ignorance is Bliss proverb in Kino's Journey: The Land of Visible Pain. Check it out!

An interesting quote (to get the meaning of it, you'll have to watch the episode, though):
Quote from: Kino's Journey
The reason we hurt others is because we don't understand their pain.

Quote from: Kino's Journey
Kino: It's pretty interesting, isn't it?
Hermes: What is?
Kino: The way that when someone expresses something, someone else always shows up to interpret it. Maybe the world is just a series of such events.

Quote from: Kino's Journey
Hermes: Kino, what do you think is beautiful?
Kino: The crimson skies, the endless expanse of the Earth, flocks of birds...animals playing by the waterfront. Hardworking machines. And...humans.
Hermes: Humans too? Really?
Kino: Yes. I think they're beautiful. Probably as beautiful as the world.
It's amazing Kino considers humans as beautiful considering most of them tried their best to have her killed.

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Kino: Why do the people of this nation build this tower?
Man: Why? I don't know. I only stock the bricks.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on June 14, 2011, 05:22:28 pm
Quote from: Chuck Close
Inspiration is for amateurs; the rest of us just show up and get to work.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 18, 2011, 08:21:16 am
Quote from: Salman Khan
Dad's pathan, Mom's rajput, 2nd mom's christian, in school they asked me what religion: dad said 'Human'.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on June 18, 2011, 05:33:07 pm
Quote from: The Eleventh Doctor
The future revolves around you, here, now, so do good!

Quote from: The Doctor's Wife
Biting is excellent, its like kissing, only there's a winner

Quote from: The Eleventh Doctor
Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Licawolf on June 21, 2011, 12:03:26 pm
I was hearing JK rowling's Harvard commencement speech. Very inspiring, I could very well have quoted the whole speech xD

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There is an expiration date on blaming your parents for steering you in the wrong direction; the moment you are old enough to take the wheel, responsibility lies with you.

Quote
Poverty entails fear, and stress, and sometimes depression; it means a thousand petty humiliations and hardships. Climbing out of poverty by your own efforts, that is indeed something on which to pride yourself, but poverty itself is romanticised only by fools.

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It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all – in which case, you fail by default.

Quote
So given a Time Turner, I would tell my 21-year-old self that personal happiness lies in knowing that life is not a check-list of acquisition or achievement. Your qualifications, your CV, are not your life, though you will meet many people of my age and older who confuse the two. Life is difficult, and complicated, and beyond anyone’s total control, and the humility to know that will enable you to survive its vicissitudes.

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Unlike any other creature on this planet, humans can learn and understand, without having experienced. They can think themselves into other people’s places.

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And many prefer not to exercise their imaginations at all. They choose to remain comfortably within the bounds of their own experience, never troubling to wonder how it would feel to have been born other than they are. They can refuse to hear screams or to peer inside cages; they can close their minds and hearts to any suffering that does not touch them personally; they can refuse to know.

I might be tempted to envy people who can live that way, except that I do not think they have any fewer nightmares than I do. Choosing to live in narrow spaces leads to a form of mental agoraphobia, and that brings its own terrors. I think the wilfully unimaginative see more monsters. They are often more afraid.

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Your intelligence, your capacity for hard work, the education you have earned and received, give you unique status, and unique responsibilities. Even your nationality sets you apart. The great majority of you belong to the world’s only remaining superpower. The way you vote, the way you live, the way you protest, the pressure you bring to bear on your government, has an impact way beyond your borders. That is your privilege, and your burden.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 21, 2011, 12:27:57 pm
Dammit! I agree with everyone of them (or mostly because they are so conveniently phrased)! But these, especially deserve to be re-quoted.

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Unlike any other creature on this planet, humans can learn and understand, without having experienced. They can think themselves into other people’s places.

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Your intelligence, your capacity for hard work, the education you have earned and received, give you unique status, and unique responsibilities. Even your nationality sets you apart. The great majority of you belong to the world’s only remaining superpower. The way you vote, the way you live, the way you protest, the pressure you bring to bear on your government, has an impact way beyond your borders. That is your privilege, and your burden.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on June 24, 2011, 05:52:59 am
Quote
Nissa will save the elves, but only those who have proved their worth.

Magic card flavor text is occasionally epic.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kodokami on June 24, 2011, 02:55:30 pm
Magic card flavor text is occasionally epic.

Ha. You're right. The subtle humor of the flavor text on "Enormous Baloth" and "Spined Wurm" always gave me amusement.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 24, 2011, 05:13:09 pm
While watching some science videos at work I came about some comments:

Quote
Video Topic: What Is The Universe Expanding Into

Comment: It is expanding into a dick joke. :D

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It was an innocent joke, and yet it brings so much about humanity in mind.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on June 26, 2011, 06:51:15 pm
Hahahaha, that latest spam bot. What a doozy.

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The warrior finds a liquor industry within him....
He does not succumb to outside liquors and drugs.
Taking the inside liquors, he remains ever tranquilized and equipoise

See, now? Pay attention to your inner liquor industry, and all will be well. Fine advice for the modern era!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on June 26, 2011, 07:18:05 pm
And what liquor has ever made anyone tranquil and balanced?  Any liquor makes me super clumsy and super loud so I assume any "inner liquor" would do the same thing.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 27, 2011, 07:28:05 pm
That's the most...poetic spam... I've ever read! (wipes tears) :cry:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 08, 2011, 07:55:17 am
Some might agree, some might not. But here goes anywhos.

Quote from: John Cheese
But as for the bad shit, there has to come a point where you realize the same thing I've touched on over and over again in this article: As an adult, you are now part of the world and you do have some power to change it. As a kid, you didn't have the power to change shit.
The reason you need to live in a world with all of this shitty news is because that world needs you to help fix it. The reason you can bring a child into this life is because when you pass on your morals and beliefs to them, that's one more soldier on the field to fight for the good side.


Read more: 5 Reasons Life Actually Does Get Better | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better_p2/#ixzz1RVgYTD4k

Quote from: John Cheese
Life gets better because you're going to make it better. Because you'll have the power and the freedom to make it better.

Read more: 5 Reasons Life Actually Does Get Better | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better_p2/#ixzz1RVhKqxTD

Cracked articles are frequently trolled on by thousands with extra free time. What's funny is that this article in particular has positive comments in majority.  :D Haven't seen a single negative comment on it yet. No matter what a depressing dude John Cheese might be, he's still in the springtime of his youth, doing his best to make the world a better place.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 10, 2011, 04:51:21 pm
The following are quotes from the movie Kurbaan (Sacrificed) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurbaan_(2009_film)), an Indo-American Political Thriller that bothers to understand why people stoop to terrorism, in turn asking the right questions and opening various eyes. Selfishness and discrimination from one side breeds hate, in turn causing losses to the opposing side, leaving a gash in an innocent soul. This despair and misery causes anger that no amount of money can fix. The heart is empty, their blood is cold and they become lost souls. Jihad is only a weapon the use, deluding themselves merely to satisfy their own vengeance.

And you kill, causing more losses, and the opposing side becomes the same monster you have become. Never forget: what we need most is not war, not money, but humanity and understanding.

Quote from: Kurbaan
Children die everyday in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq, if only to satisfy the White-People's thirst for oil. But don't worry; at least your child is destined to be a martyr here.

Quote from: Kurbaan
Heh, kill me. You people enjoy killing, don't you? Go on. Pull the trigger and shoot me, but don't for one fucking moment think that Allah wants this! Innocent people don't suffer at Allah's will. When a bomb explodes it is only the innocent that perish.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on July 11, 2011, 07:22:34 am
Quote from: Madalyn Murray O’Hair
An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church.  An atheist believes that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said.  An atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death.  He wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, war eliminated.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 11, 2011, 10:16:08 am
Quote from: Madalyn Murray O’Hair
An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church.  An atheist believes that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said.  An atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death.  He wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, war eliminated.
That's the best Atheism quote I've read so far! And I love the positiveness that emanates from it.

But why settle for one when you can have the best of both worlds? A Church feeds and provides education to the poor and needy. A temple is a home of not only God, but also the homeless, those shunned by society. A single prayer gives you the courage to tackle impossible odds. A truly religious man also wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, and war eliminated. Religion forwards ethics to make humanity better.

And I personally believe that both beliefs can co-exist peacefully.  :)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 15, 2011, 03:16:45 pm
Been watching Tarak Mehta's Oolta Chashma, a highly philosophical comedy based on an old novel. The arc was a morbid one, exploring loneliness and the depth of human mind. There's a quote I found used by a journalist character who's constant catchphrase describes him Shaking The Heavens.

Quote from: Popatlal
When you have respect in your heart, you will see God even in stone; and when you don't have that respect, every idol or statue is but a lifeless rock.

The arc was hardly about religion, though (because atheism isn't widespread in our culture, even though freedom of belief is); it was actually about the human mind and how we perceive people and substances, and the harsh realities of those without families, those constantly struggling with their own loneliness and keeping with society's pace.

I wouldn't spoil things for anyone though.  :) Though the whole episode was... heart-wrenching. So here's something to remember: cherish what you have and who you have. Never let them go lest you regret it later.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 16, 2011, 06:35:38 am
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes
When one tries to rise above Nature one is liable to fall below it. The highest type of man may revert to the animal if he leaves the straight road of destiny.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 17, 2011, 05:21:10 pm
Quote
Yes, we're mad! Though hardly any worse than this world that you call normal, where you're fined for breaking the speed limit but not for breaking someone's heart, and where you're charged guilty for breaking someone's head but not for breaking someone's trust.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on July 19, 2011, 04:48:20 am
Quote from: Haddaway
What is love?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: rushingwind on July 19, 2011, 09:22:46 pm
Quote from: C.S. Lewis
"Make your choice, adventurous Stranger;
Strike the bell and bide the danger
Or wonder, till it drives you mad,
What would have followed if you had."

This is my all-time favorite short poem/riddle.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kodokami on July 20, 2011, 12:42:26 am
Quote from: Albert Einstein
Peace cannot be kept by force.
It can only be achieved by understanding.

Just finished the movie of Gundam 00. Damn. I'm itching for more but the extra novels and manga are all in Japanese...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 20, 2011, 10:11:45 am
Quote from: Albert Einstein
Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school.
My school teachers were big on Einstein quotes. Imagine if I showed them this!  :lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 22, 2011, 03:35:04 am
Quote from: Albert Einstein
“The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.”

“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Hahaha... I feel stupid now...  :cry:

Quote from: Albert Einstein
“There are two ways to live: you can live as if nothing is a miracle; you can live as if everything is a miracle.”
I prefer to be the latter. XD When you realize that the world is gigantic ball of impossible things happening at the same time and so many intriguing things happening that usually go unnoticed, it makes reality not so different from fantasy.

Of course, I don't rely on miracles. I'm in the SPRINGTIME OF MY YOUTH, and I make it win!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on July 22, 2011, 06:24:58 pm
Quote from: Haddaway
What is love?

Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 23, 2011, 06:47:14 pm
Quote from: Dennis Hong
Poker teaches you humility, emotional control and, most of all, patience. You realize that life in general is one big game of chance that you can kind of sort of control, but often is subject to just plain dumb luck, and that life is about how you react to that luck. To use an obnoxiously tired metaphor that's actually appropriate here, you learn that life will deal you a shitty hand every now and then (sometimes one after another for months on end). But when it does, you just have to toss the cards aside and wait for the next hand to come your way. The game goes on.

That's why gamblers tend to be a philosophical bunch.

Read more: 6 Reasons Professional Poker Is Way Harder Than It Looks | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/article_19303_6-reasons-professional-poker-way-harder-than-it-looks_p2.html#ixzz1Sy2dE22R

XD Ya know, like Setzer!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on July 24, 2011, 04:42:18 pm
Quote from: Haddaway
What is love?

Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more.

:-) :-D :lol:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 25, 2011, 01:00:09 am
Quote from: Eric Hoffer
It is the individual only who is timeless. Societies, cultures, and civilizations — past and present — are often incomprehensible to outsiders, but the individual's hunger, anxieties, dreams, and preoccupations have remained unchanged through the millennia. Thus, we are up against the paradox that the individual who is more complex, unpredictable, and mysterious than any communal entity is the one nearest to our understanding; so near that even the interval of millennia cannot weaken our feeling of kinship. If in some manner the voice of an individual reaches us from the remotest distance of time, it is a timeless voice speaking about ourselves.
Yay, individuality!  :D

Also:
Quote from: Astavakra (The Book of the Forest)
A grey head does not make an elder. Not by years, not by grey hairs, not by riches or many relations did the seers make the Law: He is great to us who has learning.

Quote from: Vidura (The Book of the Effort)
A man should avoid these six like a leaking boat in the ocean: a teacher who does not teach, a priest who has not studied, a king who fails to protect, a wife who is abusive, a cowherd who wants a village, and a barber who wants a forest.

Quote from: Vidura (The Book of the Effort)
The intoxication with power is worse than drunkeness with liquor and such, for who is drunk with power does not come to his senses before he falls.

Quote
The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by any fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on August 14, 2011, 05:43:38 pm
Quote from: John Cheese
You know you're an adult, not just when you're able to put the needs of others above your own, but when you're able to do it without giving a single thought to what they "owe" you in return. You realize that, at some point you weren't even aware of, you became the tap instead of the bucket. And then you look back and hate your younger self for living under the delusion that somehow a world full of buckets could function.

Read more: 5 Questions You Need to Ask (To Avoid Ruining Your Life) | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-questions-you-need-to-ask-to-avoid-ruining-your-life_p2/#ixzz1V2PvAF00

This guy, though one of the most depressing people I've ever seen, has all of my respect.  8)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on August 17, 2011, 06:44:25 am
Quote from: Anna Hazare
"The second freedom struggle has started ... This is a fight for change. Unless there is no change, there is no freedom, there is no actual democracy, there is no true republic, there is no true people's rule"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on August 17, 2011, 10:18:30 pm
I believe that the great wisdom of the 80's can be summed up in the immortal words of Bill S. Preston, Esq. -- “Be excellent to each other.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on August 26, 2011, 04:11:59 am
From an old friend.


Quote
the present is a warped reality occurring too quickly to accurately
interpret, past tense is the clarity of that warping.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on August 26, 2011, 04:57:28 pm
Quote from: Bartimaeus Trilogy
Bartimaeus: I'm not so good with the advice. How about a sarcastic comment?

Dang, if Lord J was a Djinni he'd be that sarcastic Bartimaeus. Or would you prefer to be the sophisticated Farqual?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on August 29, 2011, 09:35:46 am
A scarcastic comment sounds rather dangerous.  Does it leave a permanent scar?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on August 29, 2011, 11:16:10 am
Quote from: Kant
Religion is too important a matter to its devotees to be a subject of ridicule. If they indulge in absurdities, they are to be pitied rather than ridiculed.

Morality is not properly the doctrine of how we may make ourselves happy, but how we may make ourselves worthy of happiness.

Quote from: Confucius
The virtuous man is driven by responsibility, the non-virtuous man is driven by profit.

When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are things to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honor are things to be ashamed of.

In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on August 29, 2011, 06:29:51 pm
A scarcastic comment sounds rather dangerous.  Does it leave a permanent scar?
At first, I was gonna mention, "When Bartimaeus is sarcastic it's always dangerous", but then I realized what ya meant. Whoops! Fixed the error. Thanks! xD

But yeah, Bartimaeus' sarcasm always leaves a permanent scar! He loathes us humans, despises the way we think and wants us get trampled by an army of the dead (Thus, the beginning of Mystic Wars in Chrono Trigger). You like Harry Potter and Chrono Trigger, so you have every reason to enjoy this books (marriage of both worlds) and laugh your ass off.  :lol:

Quote from: Bartimaeus
“Can you define ‘plan’ as ‘a loose sequence of manifestly inadequate observations and conjectures, held together by panic, indecision and ignorance’? If so, it was a very good plan.”

(Bartimaeus) "I wanted to wake you straightaway, but I knew I had to wait several hours to ensure you were safely recovered."
(Nathaniel) "What! How long has it been?"
(Bartimaeus) "Five minutes, I got bored."

According to some (generally those who don't have to do it; politicians and writers spring to mind), heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 07, 2011, 02:06:01 pm
"I can respect a dessert that requires a blowtorch." Rachel Held Evans (although I am not 100% positive on this).
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Shee on September 07, 2011, 08:47:16 pm
"I can respect a dessert that requires a blowtorch." Rachel Held Evans (although I am not 100% positive on this).

CREEPINESS
I spent last night in a few comedy clubs/bars trying to hammer out a joke about when I saw Gordon Ramsay bust out a blowtorch for a dessert.  (For the record, I thought it was absurd.)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on September 07, 2011, 10:28:26 pm
Creme brulee! I make a mean one-o-those!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on September 08, 2011, 06:18:55 am
That's my dessert-o-choice when I'm at a new restaurant. I love creme brulee and it's hard to do it really well. I use creme brulee as one of the measures of a restaurant's competencies...sorta like how I usually get a plain old latte when I go to a cafe for the first time, or a clam chowder when I go to a fish house for the first time.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on September 08, 2011, 09:53:41 am
The trick is the angle of the torch and an even, consistent rotation of the brulee dish. And, obviously, not burning the living sh*x out of yourself from the caramelized sugar. (In the preparation, it's all about consistency. Cooked too much and it tastes like straight egg. Cooked too little and it's like soup.)  It took several failures and months of pinky finger healing before I got the hang of the latter part of said trick.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 08, 2011, 01:56:12 pm
Quote from: T.E. Lawrence
... the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on September 08, 2011, 06:04:57 pm
Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
'Learn a lesson,' Crowe said amiably. 'Traps can be reversed. That's the difference between animals and humans - rabbits don't suddenly turn around and hunt foxes, but men can switch roles. Prey can become predator. Look out for the signs. If your prey is leadin' you somewhere isolated then just maybe they've spotted you and want to get you alone.'

Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
He turned and took a step forward. Something crunched beneath his feet. He looked down, and saw a white section of bone protruding from the ground. He'd stepped on it, cracking it in two. Boxes sometimes get dropped, the feral boy had said. Smashed. It looked like the contents got left where they had fallen. All this pomp and circumstance for the dead -- special trains, a massive city of the day at Brookwood -- and yet the remains were just left to rot where they fell if the coffins got broken. It was as if the spectacle was more important than the actuality. The mourners did not know, or maybe even did not care, whether the family member they had lost was in the coffin when it was buried.

Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
Eventually he (Sherlock) turned away and started to walk in the direction Crow had indicated. He passed taverns and shops, market stalls and people standing on street corners with trays of goods. And people -- all kinds of people, from toffs in in fine clothes to urchins in rags. London was indeed a melting pot for all humanity.

Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
Constable: ...but I think she more or less told the Commissioner of Police to replace them, or she would replace him.
Amyus Crowe: Interestin' that a woman has so much power in a country that denies its women the vote an' the opportunity to own property.

Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
Rufus Stone: Suffice to say there was an actress, and a vacancy in the Salisbury Playhouse pit orchestra, and the chance to gaze up at her beautiful face all evening as I played and she acted her little heart out.
Sherlock: What happened?
Rufus Stone: (winced) She parceled that same heart up and gave it to the leading man, of course. As they always do, of course, buoyed up by the admiring glances of their followers in the pit.

Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
Too many questions and logic did not seem to be any help. Logic was telling him that if this was alright then that was alright as well, but instinctively he knew that there was a difference. There were limits. The trouble was, he didn't know where they had come from or how to think about them properly.

And all this because he hadn't given his horse a name.

Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
Sherlock: I think Mycroft knows. I think he warned me about her earlier.
Amyus Crowe: (Smiled) Your brother knows a lot of things. And the things he don't know generally ain't worth knowin' anyway.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on September 12, 2011, 12:52:11 am
I don't often quote the compendium itself, but...

Writing can be immensely enjoyable...and damn annoying.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on September 12, 2011, 05:46:50 am
Quote from: Janet Fitch, White Oleander
Always learn poems by heart.  They have to become the marrow in your bones.  Like fluoride in the water, they’ll make your soul impervious to the world’s soft decay.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on September 12, 2011, 11:50:40 am
That's gorgeous. I have, somewhere, an ongoing list of poems I want to memorize -- I keep forgetting about them, because there's no direct use when you can just google the poem, but I must get around to them soon. There's something to memorization and recitation that just feels soul-nourishing.

I sometimes think I may use my memorized poems the way some people use prayer. I'm not sure, but I certainly understand why people chant mantras when I recite "Kubla Khan" to myself.

.

ALSO,

Quote from: Revolutionary Girl Utena/"Demian" by Hermian Hesse
If the egg's shell does not break... the chick will die without being born. We are the chick; the egg is the world. Break the world's shell! For the sake of revolutionizing the world!

UTENA IS AMAZING
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: alfadorredux on September 12, 2011, 01:30:22 pm
::Sigh:: The fact that I can still recite the Utena version of that quote (which doesn't quite match what you have here, so I assume you posted the Damien version) makes me a big anime geek, I guess.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on September 12, 2011, 05:10:15 pm
I sometimes think I may use my memorized poems the way some people use prayer. I'm not sure, but I certainly understand why people chant mantras when I recite "Kubla Khan" to myself.
:lol: True!

Kinda reminds me of an incident at the institute. It was our examination time, and before we began a lot of us began to pray before their paper in unison, all asking for strength and wisdom (and luck) to pass the test. And I broke into my prayer aloud:

"Do the impossible, see the invisible;
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!
Touch the untouchable, break the unbreakable;
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!"
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVSo2bzRlss)

They laughed at me, asking, "What the hell was that?" I told them this was my prayer and it instantly gave me all the strength I need to tear the heavens. They thought I was crazy. xDDD

But a friend of mine goes by a similar, even more badass prayer: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrw5bFhZoW8)

Quote from: Disturbed
Another dream that will never come true
Just to compliment your sorrow
Another life that I've taken from you
A gift to add on to your pain and suffering
Another truth you can never believe
Has crippled you completely
All the cries you're beginning to hear
Trapped in your mind, and the sound is deafening

Let me enlighten you
This is the way I pray:

[Chorus:]
Living just isn't hard enough
Burn me alive, inside
Living my life's not hard enough
Take everything away
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Post by: Syna on September 12, 2011, 05:55:21 pm
::Sigh:: The fact that I can still recite the Utena version of that quote (which doesn't quite match what you have here, so I assume you posted the Damien version) makes me a big anime geek, I guess.

No, it just makes you awesome. CRACK THE WORLD'S SHELL!
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Post by: tushantin on September 12, 2011, 07:24:55 pm
Haha, Mary's a moron (and a cute one, too). Here's her guide on "How To Be A Great Thinker":
Quote from: Marianne
It's pretty easy to become a great thinker. All you have to do is think big! *thinks of a gynormous building* Oh... Dubai. Anyway it's being the middle-man that's tough!

She also told me once that being "Open Minded" means exposing your brain by transplanting a window on your skull.

Ah, and apparently this God of War just evolved into Lavos (via 4000 posts). Surprise! I'm a geek...  :(
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Post by: alfadorredux on September 12, 2011, 07:42:37 pm
CRACK THE WORLD'S SHELL!

For the revolution of the world! ;)
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Post by: Kodokami on September 12, 2011, 11:10:28 pm
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I think we create our own meaning, and if we do it well that brings us happiness. It is too easy to have a guru on a mountaintop saying the answer is this and this. That's a cop out. The meaning of life is to struggle and find your own meaning of life.

Michio Kaku is my hero. Damn, I wanna meet that guy.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on September 13, 2011, 12:02:10 am
Quote from: Cato the Elder
The wise man learns more from the fool than the fool learns from the wise.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on September 13, 2011, 12:11:27 am
Quite true.
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Post by: Mr Bekkler on September 13, 2011, 12:12:03 am
I figured it'd be appropriate ;-)
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Post by: tushantin on September 13, 2011, 04:59:33 am
Quote from: ZeaLitY
If the truth can be better communicated, the world will be drastically improved. How frustrated I am that I can't simply force the truth on the world. It's so obvious once you get it.
This. Is. RAD!!

Z has hit a jackpot.  :D I'm saving this to Evernote. However, here's another challenge: Truth has several layers of conquest. What you see or understand is but a fragment.

There was a good dialogue of Krishna and the Antim Satya, but I kinda forgot... It talks about the seven seas of lies, I think.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on September 16, 2011, 01:57:33 pm
Quote from: William Blake, "The Marriage of Heaven & Hell"
Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence.

From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil. Good is the passive that obeys Reason. Evil is the active springing from Energy.

Good is Heaven. Evil is Hell.

William Blake is such a haus.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on September 16, 2011, 04:52:41 pm
Quote from: William Blake
Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence.

From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil. Good is the passive that obeys Reason. Evil is the active springing from Energy.

Good is Heaven. Evil is Hell.

William Blake is such a haus.
Ahura Mazdah! The aggressor and the shield! Pride and humility! Visions and oblivion! Malevolence and benevolence! The bold and the broken... HELL YEAH!! :D

Know that no color is complete without the marriage of Black and White that bear its destiny. Tear through the light of a thousand suns and heed the resonance of the vivid, and you will see even in the void the triumph of limitless hues.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on September 18, 2011, 12:12:30 am
Good old Blake, one of my favorite poets!

Quote
Children of the future age,
Reading this indignant page,
Know that in a former time,
Love, sweet Love, was thought a crime!

That one stuck out at me because I felt like I was being personally addressed.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on September 27, 2011, 11:21:46 am
Quote from: Milan Kundera (The Unbearable Lightness of Being)
In the sunset of dissolution, everything is illuminated by the aura of nostalgia, even the guillotine.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on September 27, 2011, 01:42:41 pm
Oh god that book that book that book!

Quote from: Milan Kundera
Tomas did not realize at the time that metaphors are dangerous. Metaphors are not to be trifled with. A single metaphor can give birth to love.

So, so true...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on September 27, 2011, 01:57:57 pm
Quote from: Milan Kundera
Tomas did not realize at the time that metaphors are dangerous. Metaphors are not to be trifled with. A single metaphor can give birth to love.

So, so true...
Holy... sheeeiit.... that's... that's...
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Post by: Thought on September 27, 2011, 04:06:03 pm
Quote from: The Doctor
I escaped, then? Brilliant. I love it when I do that.

Quote from: The Doctor
I am and always will be the optimist. The hoper of far-flung hopes and the dreamer of improbable dreams.
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Post by: tushantin on September 27, 2011, 08:36:32 pm
Bapu Gandhi... his every word is clad with truth, and there was a reason he was considered Mahatma. I think these quotes not only apply to everyone here in the forums, but also offer the solution to every problems we're facing in the world. Why haven't the people practiced his wisdom en masse is a good question, but I would say that in today's world his teachings are far more effective than a prophet who died 2000 years ago.

Quote from: Mahatma Gandhi
Hate the sin, love the sinner.

A nation's culture resides in the hearts and in the soul of its people.

A religion that takes no account of practical affairs and does not help to solve them is no religion.

Always aim at complete harmony of thought and word and deed. Always aim at purifying your thoughts and everything will be well.

Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.

It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.

You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.

Faith... must be enforced by reason. When faith becomes blind it dies.

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?

In the last 50 years we have seen brilliant inventions and discoveries, but they have not added one inch to the moral fiber of society.

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unalike your Christ.

And an important one that someone from the forums reminded me of:

Quote from: Mahatma Gandhi
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
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Post by: ZeaLitY on September 28, 2011, 02:55:36 am
Quote
When you say to a child 'Bedtime, it's bedtime now' that's not what the child hears. What the child hears is 'Go and lie down in the dark. For hours. And don't move. I'm locking the door now.'

And something I said to someone tonight...

Quote
Science is a byword for "truth". It is not a construct. It is an observation.

May all the people in whom anti-intellectualism dwells awaken to find the life-enriching products of physics suspended in their lives—their faucets will not run; their cars will not start; their sun will not shine. For their God doesn't exist.
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Post by: tushantin on September 28, 2011, 05:43:18 am
Quote
Science is a byword for "truth". It is not a construct. It is an observation.
...For their God doesn't exist.
While the remainder of your quotes was downright awesome (like they usually are), something tells me that you'd use any and every reason, no matter how irrelevant, as en excuse to enforce your belief blindly upon others.

I'm not sure if this is out of insecurity on your part, but I'd like to tell you, kiddo, "Don't worry; everything will be alright."
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Post by: Thought on September 28, 2011, 03:45:29 pm
Quote from: There's No Such Thing As Impossible, by Turn Left
We'll show this planet just what impossible means!

A line from a Trock song, based on the Doctor Who episode "The Impossible Planet"
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Post by: Lord J Esq on September 28, 2011, 08:54:53 pm
Quote from: The Producers
You have exactly ten seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!
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Post by: tushantin on September 29, 2011, 11:53:32 am
If Thought was a Minister of Foreign Office, I bet he'd say this:

Quote from: Mycroft Holmes
(Pyotr Andreyevich) Shuvalov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Andreyevich_Shuvalov) and I understand each other. We think alike. When he was informed that I had been arrested, he immediately called for me to be brought to him. We drank tea, and we talked in a civilized manner. He apologized for any harsh behavior his men had exhibited, and I apologized for arriving in his country without proper notification. That is the way international relations ought to be conducted: politely and with refreshments, not using trained falcons as instruments of assassination.

(Quote from 'Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice')
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Post by: Kodokami on September 29, 2011, 12:25:19 pm
Quote from: "Tales from Earthsea" film
No man nor any living thing in this world preserves their life forever. But only to men is it given to know that we must die, and that is a precious gift. This life that is both our torment and our treasure was never meant to endure for eternity. Life is a wave on the sea. Would you force the sea to grow still to save one wave?
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Post by: tushantin on October 01, 2011, 08:32:54 pm
@Syna and anyone that's curious: This is another instance of "Art Mind". This is also, not coincidentally, the way we artists look at things.

Quote from: yuumei
Though there are many things in the world that I hate, such as oil spills and shark finning, I do not truly believe in the existence good vs. evil. I think this mentality of mine allows me to find visual beauty in subjects that I personally despise. During the BP Gulf of Mexico oil spill, I couldn't help but notice the elegant way each disgusting drop of oil moved through the water. It's easy for my human mind to associate the oil with the destruction of what I love, and therefore symbolize it as "evil", but that is just my own ego speaking. If I stepped back and looked at the grand picture, I can let go of that ego and capture the actual beauty in everything. I don't believe that it lessens the environmental message by doing so, but it does increase the chances of getting people's attention.

To sum it up, this:

(http://st.deviantart.net/blogskins/artnetwork/yuumei/feelalive.jpg)
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Post by: Thought on October 01, 2011, 09:38:04 pm
Quote from: L. Ron Hubbard, from The Dangerous Dimension
At  first it had been a little difficult, but the gigantic beast Thought had risen into full power.

I have one thing to say about that:


RAR!


(http://images.wikia.com/godzilla/images/1/12/Godzilla2000-36.jpg)
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Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on October 01, 2011, 10:04:52 pm
Quote
When I examine myself and my methods of thought, I come to the conclusion that the gift of fantasy has meant more to me than any talent for abstract, positive thinking. -Albert Einstein

(http://withfriendship.com/images/i/44485/mecha-godzilla.jpg)
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Post by: Truthordeal on October 09, 2011, 11:21:40 pm
Quote from: Erich Fromme
There is perhaps no phenomenon which contains so much destructive feeling as moral indignation, which permits envy or hate to be acted out under the guise of virtue.
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Post by: tushantin on October 12, 2011, 10:22:57 am
Quote from: John Hewitt
Don’t be afraid to write from a different point of view. Write a poem that says exactly the opposite of what you believe.
A true artist makes fear his weapon.

Quote from: John Hewitt
Follow your fear. Don’t back away from subjects that make you uncomfortable, and don’t try to keep your personal demons off the page. Even if you never publish the poems they produce, you have to push yourself and write as honestly as possible.
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Post by: tushantin on October 12, 2011, 12:46:15 pm
Quote from: Sydney J. Harris
A writer needs an 'ear' as much as a musician does. And without this ear, he is lost and groping in a forest of words, where all the trees look much alike.
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Post by: tushantin on October 12, 2011, 04:49:55 pm
Quote from: Richard Nordquist
An argument is not a fight--or at least it shouldn't be. Rhetorically speaking, an argument is a course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating that a statement is either true or false.

In today's media, however, it often appears that rational argument has been usurped by scaremongering and fact-free bluster. Yelling, crying, and name-calling have taken the place of thoughtfully reasoned debate.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on October 14, 2011, 03:49:54 pm
I admit I almost never pay attention to Indian television besides news or the occasional Taarak Mehta's ingenious stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taarak_Mehta_Ka_Ooltah_Chashmah). But once in a while I glance my family watching, and I notice how the wise god Krishna is portrayed in Indian pop-culture.

And I like it! Unlike any proud God who thunders or announces his / her presence with a bang, Krishna is a humble, silent hero who cheerfully walks midst the people unnoticed. Of course, he could solve the world's problems with a blink of an eye or destroy evil with a wave of his hands, but that's not his business: No, instead he'd empathetically empower humanity to take the best and most effective path. He'd help the righteous and innocent transcend, because humans are beautiful.

Whenever such a character appears, the audience seems to know it immediately even if the story does not say it directly. One such Supernatural / Mystery show, the Avatar of Krishna is a woman named Raadha. She doesn't use her God Powers, but would rather play the game her murderers started -- her goal is not to hurt them or destroy them, but to make them repent and in the guise of a human. So what do we have? An interesting psychological game that's bound to thrill the audience.

There's a particular quote (in Hindi) I noticed and liked; here's the translation:

Quote from: Raadha
An egg sat at the first storey and fell, but did not break. Why was that? Because when "When time is sacred then all is strong"! The egg sat again at the same storey and fell, but did not break. Why was that? Because the egg had gotten smarter this time. The egg sat yet again at the same storey and fell, but this time... it broke. Why?

(Awaits her antagonist to speak, but there's nothing but silence)

Because this time the egg was blinded by pride.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on October 15, 2011, 07:59:07 am
Quote from: Phantom Thief Kid
A thief is a creative artist who takes his prey in style. But a detective is nothing more than a critic, who follows our footsteps.
Arsene Lupin would totally say that to Sherlock Holmes.
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Post by: tushantin on October 15, 2011, 02:30:42 pm
In the memory of Michael Stern Hart (1947-2011):

Quote from: Michael Stern Hart
Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people.

Quote from: Michael Stern Hart
Learning is its own reward. Nothing I can say is better than that.

So tell me forum: isn't this what our SoY about?
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Post by: tushantin on October 22, 2011, 01:34:13 am
Quote from: Pablo Picasso
“Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that will never be again. And what do we teach our children? We teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France. When will we also teach them what they are? We should say to each of them: Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all the years that have passed, there has never been another child like you. Your legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the way you move. You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are a marvel. And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel? You must work, we must all work, to make the world worthy of its children.”

“Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.”

Prepare the revolution!
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Post by: tushantin on October 27, 2011, 03:25:07 pm
Another quote from a fictional female incarnation of Krishna (the story seems pretty awesome; despite its supernatural influence, it's actually a Psychological Thriller / Drama). The character almost always uses Sanskrit syntax and vocabulary in her Hindi dialogue.

Quote
Radhika: Every corner of the house is illuminated with lamps. Why is this window so lonely?
Man: That window faces south, where winds come from. That lamp will be snuffed out.
Radhika: (Lights it anyway) It won't. Within the flame of every lamp lies radiant hope; come what may, breeze or hurricane, but the flame will burn its brightest.
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Post by: tushantin on October 30, 2011, 02:57:30 pm
Quote
"Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art." -Leonardo da Vinci

"True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist." -Albert Einstein

"Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -Pablo Picasso

"Art is not a handicraft, it is the transmission of feeling the artist has experienced." -Leo Tolstoy

"No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist." -Oscar Wilde
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on October 31, 2011, 08:20:31 pm
Quote from: John Keats
‎I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the heart's affections and the truth of imagination--what the imagination seizes as beauty must be truth--whether it existed before or not.

Happy birthday to my beloved John Keats, born, most appropriately, on Samhain.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on October 31, 2011, 08:23:01 pm
Quote from: John Keats
‎I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the heart's affections and the truth of imagination--what the imagination seizes as beauty must be truth--whether it existed before or not.
Happy Birthday!

I re-quote that because it's so true.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 01, 2011, 01:00:47 am
Quote
"No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist." -Oscar Wilde

This is fundamentally wrong. Artists have to see things as they really are. The way the world truly looks. We have to see the truth.
In the words of my art professor,
Quote
We're artists. That means we have to know everything about everything!

The truth isn't on your paper. It's out there. See it.

If we can't understand the world's truth, then we can't create beautiful, believable lies. No one can draw the still life on the table--we can't draw into the page and create 3D space--but we can show a series of relationships that pretend to be the still life, provided we can see the objects truthfully. If not, we get...
Quote
CRAP!
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Post by: Sajainta on November 01, 2011, 02:14:49 am
Katie, Wilde was himself an artist who clearly disagreed with you.  Which is fine.  It's dangerous to make blanket statements that include the words "have to".

You may also be misinterpreting what Wilde said.  Perhaps he meant that artists understand the world as it is, but have a different take on it than others.  They view it differently than others.  They see and know the truth, but the way they view the world is askew.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on November 01, 2011, 03:18:32 am
Quote
Hold my hand, Doctor. Try to see what I see. We're so lucky we're still alive to see this beautiful world. Look at the sky. It's not dark and black and without character. The black is in fact deep blue. And over there! Lighter blue. And blowing through the blueness and the blackness, the winds swirling through the air. And there shining, burning, bursting through, the stars! Can you see how they roll their light? Everywhere we look, the complex magic of nature blazes before our eyes.
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Post by: Sajainta on November 01, 2011, 03:27:19 am
I love that episode so much.  Have you ever heard the song "Vincent" by Don McLean?
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Post by: tushantin on November 01, 2011, 08:07:37 am
Ahahaha, we artists certainly are wonderful people, aren't we? I'll look forward to Katie's response before delivering a detailed comment.

Also, Saj, what do you mean by "askew"?

@Thought: What episode was that from?
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Post by: Sajainta on November 01, 2011, 08:36:52 am
Also, Saj, what do you mean by "askew"?

I meant it in a metaphorical sense, not its literal definition--turning one's proverbial head to the side to see the world in a different light.  Or as a synonym for "awry"--diverting from the expected.

Blame the writer in me.  I often use words metaphorically rather than literally.  I like to play with vocabulary.  Of course, writers are artists in and of themselves, so you can blame the artist in me just as well.

@Thought: What episode was that from?

"Vincent and the Doctor."  Season 5.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on November 01, 2011, 11:12:45 am
That reminds me of another quote:

Quote from: Emily Dickinson
Tell all the Truth but tell it slant

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Post by: Sajainta on November 01, 2011, 11:43:42 am
That reminds me of another quote:

Quote from: Emily Dickinson
Tell all the Truth but tell it slant



Exactly.

Oh Ms. Dickinson, thank you for teaching me to love dashes.  <3
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 01, 2011, 12:32:35 pm
That reminds me of another quote:
Quote from: Emily Dickinson
Tell all the Truth but tell it slant

This was more what I meant. You can see things one way and interpret them another, and tell them in yet another way. So, a great artist would see the truth, but have a different interpretation of it than anyone else, and would draw it in whatever way they saw fit, either truthfully or not.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 02, 2011, 04:30:20 am
Katie, you are entitled to your opinion and method to see truth the way you like, but answer me this: are you entirely certain that the view of yours, and your self-imposed rules and restrictions, will help you achieve the goals and ideals you've set for yourself? Does it signify the Springtime of Youth in you?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 02, 2011, 12:02:23 pm
Yep! I am absolutely sure! If I can learn to draw the real world accurately, it means I'll be able to draw the things in my head as if they were real. I don't feel that knowing everything about everything is a 'restriction!'
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 02, 2011, 04:19:54 pm
Yep! I am absolutely sure! If I can learn to draw the real world accurately, it means I'll be able to draw the things in my head as if they were real.
That's the spirit I'm lookin' for! XD

I don't feel that knowing everything about everything is a 'restriction!'
The 'restriction' wasn't your ideal to know everything about everything (if anything, it's your strength), but your self imposed rule on what is 'right or wrong', or what an artist or art should be and shouldn't be. But anyway, at least for the moment, I don't think it's too important to discuss that here. Your perception and vision are unique to you to travel a new direction at your own pace; plus, you'll most likely learn the "actuality" on your own journey on your own. LOL
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 05, 2011, 05:42:13 pm
I love this guy!

Quote from: Brian Molko
I love being a freak. It's great!

So, then you find yourself in a situation where you have to do things because they're on offer to you, because you don't have much self-respect left. You just can't say no, even to something that you've never done before. You just can't help yourself.

I'm tired of being around men all the time. I'm going to start a band called Skirt with three girls and I'll play the guitar and sing backing vocals in drag. I went window shopping when I was in New York, saw a lot of amazing dresses.

My mouth has a tendency to get me into trouble, but because I'm so small and I take on people who are lager than me. If someone punched me, I'd get my drummer beat them up.

Being so honest in my writing is cathartic.

I believe very strongly that when it comes to desire, when it comes to attraction, that things are never black and white, things are very much shades of grey.

Oh, it's not just desire and attraction, mate. There are so many things in shades of grey!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 05, 2011, 06:26:40 pm
Quote from: Brian Molko
I'm tired of being around men all the time. I'm going to start a band called Skirt with three girls and I'll play the guitar and sing backing vocals in drag. I went window shopping when I was in New York, saw a lot of amazing dresses.

There need to be more dresses for men.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 05, 2011, 06:36:27 pm
I suppose, to the extent there isn't already a wide market for male dresses, it's because female fashions are considerably more ridiculous than male ones, designed to emit whatever notions of sex appeal the out-of-touch people designing those fashions hold. Females in male attire look normal, but males in female attire often look ludicrous, and that's a dead giveaway of the lingering sexism in our fashion industries. Once you can begin to discern that reliably, you'll see that the females in female fashions often look just as ludicrous.

But, yes. Dresses as a concept, or at least skirts, have a limited functional merit, and it'd be nice to see more male options available for those who want them.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 05, 2011, 07:07:11 pm
I suppose, to the extent there isn't already a wide market for male dresses, it's because female fashions are considerably more ridiculous than male ones, designed to emit whatever notions of sex appeal the out-of-touch people designing those fashions hold. Females in male attire look normal, but males in female attire often look ludicrous, and that's a dead giveaway of the lingering sexism in our fashion industries. Once you can begin to discern that reliably, you'll see that the females in female fashions often look just as ludicrous.
Well, yes, but not always though. Not saying you're wrong, though. See, we can't wear Women's Kurtas, but Women can't wear "ours" either. The weirdest bit is that it isn't even sexist to begin with, but gender preference. See, while Kurtas were a given since the traditional times, it wasn't the males that decided to give the opposite gender a chance, but actually it was the females who decided that they could out-do men in fashion. And indeed they can. (http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/d/i/dizzyplz.gif?1)

Ah, and the bliss that the female Kurtas weren't meant to be sexy at all (even though they looked lovely in them), and the modern Kurtas do have quite a variety and taste.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 05, 2011, 07:27:44 pm
Sexism = the selective treatment or regard of a person on the basis of sex.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7UyesaqfeFM/TmUTMYv0IiI/AAAAAAAAANE/lxclINENzkE/s1600/TheMoreYouKnow.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: alfadorredux on November 05, 2011, 07:47:02 pm
There actually is a market for skirts for men, and there are companies supplying it—try doing a search on "utilikilt". The fact that they felt they had to use the term "kilt" and not "skirt" (and supply them in "manly" patterns like camo and plain khaki—why shouldn't men wear bright colours too? It used to be allowed, up until about 150 years ago) is the remaining black spot here.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 05, 2011, 08:11:11 pm
Indeed. They're based out of Seattle and are widely worn there. I know well about them and almost mentioned it in my earliest post!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 06, 2011, 05:29:59 am
Sexism = the selective treatment or regard of a person on the basis of sex.
Actually, the dictionary tells me:
Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

How is thinking something awesome, such as fashionable clothing, for their own gender "prejudice" or "stereotyping" or "discrimination"? If I suddenly start wearing a hat and say that other guys ought to wear it to, you'd consider it sexist? You once claimed that you like wearing a watch and it's much easier than checking the time on a phone, and also claimed that the only people who don't wear watches are "mooks" and "Al Kaeda". Does that make you sexist?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on November 06, 2011, 06:22:28 am
You once claimed that you like wearing a watch and it's much easier than checking the time on a phone, and also claimed that the only people who don't wear watches are "mooks" and "Al Kaeda". Does that make you sexist?

1)  I could be off base here, but I'm pretty sure he was joking.
2)  Unless he specifically said "female mooks" and "female Al Kaeda members", that doesn't make him sexist.  Mooks and people in Al Kaeda are not a gender.  :roll:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 06, 2011, 06:26:06 am
I really get a kick out of being reminded of some of the ridiculous shit I say. =D

You know...they say it's poor form when you're the only one to laugh at your jokes. But I can't help it! I'm side-splittingly full of myself and it feels really good!!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on November 06, 2011, 06:28:27 am
You know...they say it's poor form when you're the only one to laugh at your jokes. But I can't help it! I'm side-splittingly full of myself and it feels really good!!

You aren't the only one.  I thought it was hilarious.  =D
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 06, 2011, 06:33:56 am
I really get a kick out of being reminded of some of the ridiculous shit I say. =D
Sometimes the ridiculous shit are the greatest shit we've ever said. XD I personally liked your "wrist watch" quote.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 06, 2011, 06:44:04 am
You aren't the only one.  I thought it was hilarious.  =D

Having played Miles Edgeworth recently, seeing my bit about the watch reminded me of Calisto Yew's laughing animations.

[youtube]TjN14-9-7kM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 06, 2011, 01:32:10 pm
I live right next to Seattle and several people with utilikilts go to my school, but kilts are a male thing anyway.

Though I did see male dress corsets at Steamcon...but I'm just saying that there need to be more dresses tailored for men. If women's dresses accentuate femininity or sex appeal, why can't men have something similar (obviously not the same)? Putting a women's dress on a man looks silly because women and men are built differently, and it's not necessarily because of "the lingering sexism in our fashion industries." Men and women look different! Just because a woman looks fine in "men's" clothing--let's take pants as an example--doesn't mean she won't look better in women's pants that are cut to suit a woman's figure. Not ALL women are curvier or bustier than men, but as a general rule we are, and so clothing is made so that it will look good on our body type.

"Sexism = the selective treatment or regard of a person on the basis of sex," OR "Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex."

I don't think it's sexism to acknowledge that genders look physically different and make clothing differently so that both genders can have clothes that fit them properly and look good. There are exceptions, of course (this kid at my school wears one of his mother's suit vests and it looks great on him), but in general, women's versions of men's clothes look better on them than men's versions of men's clothes.

So, men would have to wear a different type of dress. It might not even be called a dress, but who freaking cares if we have to call it something different, as long as it exists. (and they're utiliKILTS because they're freaking KILTS, not because no guy would buy skirts. >_<  I imagine that's part of it, maybe? But skirts =/= kilts. The lack of bright colors, though, is silly, you're right.)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 06, 2011, 01:51:02 pm
Though I did see male dress corsets at Steamcon...but I'm just saying that there need to be more dresses tailored for men. If women's dresses accentuate femininity or sex appeal, why can't men have something similar (obviously not the same)? Putting a women's dress on a man looks silly because women and men are built differently, and it's not necessarily because of "the lingering sexism in our fashion industries." Men and women look different! Just because a woman looks fine in "men's" clothing--let's take pants as an example--doesn't mean she won't look better in women's pants that are cut to suit a woman's figure. Not ALL women are curvier or bustier than men, but as a general rule we are, and so clothing is made so that it will look good on our body type.
It's probably just my perception, but I actually agree with this. Well put, Katie!

However...
"Sexism = the selective treatment or regard of a person on the basis of sex,"
So when I fall only fall in love with women, and not men, that makes me sexist? Sexuality also influences how you behave towards a particular sex and what's the first thing you think of subconsciously. Prejudice should be looked down upon, and that's all well, but it amuses me that people aren't given the freedom to pick "what kind of regard" we must have for others, let alone between sexes. "Trying to fix the world" in the case feels like "tying our hands and feet". It's hypocritical, and a degeneration of intellectual liberty.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: alfadorredux on November 06, 2011, 02:06:46 pm
Except that kilts are skirts—they're just a specific type of skirt (pleated and roughly knee-length, with the Scottish-traditional version being worn by both genders). </pedant>
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 06, 2011, 04:23:27 pm
"Sexism = the selective treatment or regard of a person on the basis of sex,"
So when I fall only fall in love with women, and not men, that makes me sexist? Sexuality also influences how you behave towards a particular sex and what's the first thing you think of subconsciously. Prejudice should be looked down upon, and that's all well, but it amuses me that people aren't given the freedom to pick "what kind of regard" we must have for others, let alone between sexes. "Trying to fix the world" in the case feels like "tying our hands and feet". It's hypocritical, and a degeneration of intellectual liberty.

I was just quoting previous definitions that your guys posted to make my point that differing clothing designs and choices for women and men do not constitute sexism! I wasn't actually making a statement about what sexism is, sorry. n_n'
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 06, 2011, 04:24:00 pm
Except that kilts are skirts—they're just a specific type of skirt (pleated and roughly knee-length, with the Scottish-traditional version being worn by both genders). </pedant>

Ah, thanks. :D Good to know!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 06, 2011, 08:29:24 pm
I was just quoting previous definitions that your guys posted to make my point that differing clothing designs and choices for women and men do not constitute sexism! I wasn't actually making a statement about what sexism is, sorry. n_n'

It's implicit, although perhaps I should have stated it outright, that any clothing typically reserved for one sex, when worn by the other sex, would be cut to suit members of that sex. It's certainly not sexism to point out the species' sexual dimorphism, but I never said otherwise.

As for the definition of sexism I gave, it includes the definition you gave subsequently. Look it back over again; you'll see that mine was much more general.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on November 06, 2011, 09:00:24 pm
I think many fans of a very famous image would agree with you on the matter of tailored dresses for men, Katie:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FQk8sEu7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Bowie is obviously looking to heighten his femininity here (note the curves), but the dress also accentuates his broad shoulders and cuts down low enough to emphasize his (flat) chest. He manages to be both feminine and dress to his form.

One of my major hobbies is dressing androgynously, as I suppose some of you know by now. Since most of us don't have the uberslim, Andrej Pejic-esque physique that would allow us to wear any kind of clothing we pleased without looking shapeless, I've founded that tailoring is actually very effective: what signals androgyny more than looking like a box is little details like a button-up shirt with a collar at the throat, rather than a v-neck. Artificially mimicking the form of the opposite gender isn't always aesthetically pleasing unless you want to go to great lengths to do it or you have a naturally androgynous body type (neither of which apply to me). But again, my priorities are much different than someone who is looking to "pass," since I'm not trans.

In general I think of clothing as "masculine" or "feminine" versus "clothing made for men" and "clothing made for women." I realize this is an artificial distinction imposed upon us but hell, while it's here I may as well have fun with it. =D
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 07, 2011, 04:55:33 am
In general I think of clothing as "masculine" or "feminine" versus "clothing made for men" and "clothing made for women." I realize this is an artificial distinction imposed upon us but hell, while it's here I may as well have fun with it. =D
If Syna ever embarks on a road for Presidency, I'd vote for her.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on November 07, 2011, 10:55:38 am
Hell yeah! You're the second person who has told me that! I have two votes!  8)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 07, 2011, 10:59:19 am
Hell yeah! You're the second person who has told me that! I have two votes!  8)
Yeah? Who was the first? XD
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: alfadorredux on November 08, 2011, 09:36:30 am
Cribbed from someone's sig on another board:

I used to be amused by Utopians. With life experience, I have grown to fear them. The great failing of Utopians is that they can never accept that someone else might not want to be a part of their utopian vision. Like ill-mannered tourists, they assume that if you don't agree with them, it must be because they're not explaining it simply enough, or often enough, or loudly enough, or ultimately, because you're stupid. Utopians always think achieving Utopia is simply a matter of education—and then re-education—and then coercion, legislation, litigation medication conditioning threats book-burnings eugenics surgical modifications hunting down the counter-revolutionaries killing the reactionaries genetic engineering—and ultimately all Utopians, no matter how nobly they begin, always end up at the same conclusion: that the only thing that keeps Man from building a secular heaven here on Earth is the nature of Man, therefore we must build a New and Better Man.

(I expect that people will understand both why this comes to mind, and why I expect to get some flak from posting it.)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 08, 2011, 10:24:04 am
"I used to be amused by Utopians. With life experience, I have grown to fear them. The great failing of Utopians is that they can never accept that someone else might not want to be a part of their utopian vision. Like ill-mannered tourists, they assume that if you don't agree with them, it must be because they're not explaining it simply enough, or often enough, or loudly enough, or ultimately, because you're stupid. Utopians always think achieving Utopia is simply a matter of education—and then re-education—and then coercion, legislation, litigation medication conditioning threats book-burnings eugenics surgical modifications hunting down the counter-revolutionaries killing the reactionaries genetic engineering—and ultimately all Utopians, no matter how nobly they begin, always end up at the same conclusion: that the only thing that keeps Man from building a secular heaven here on Earth is the nature of Man, therefore we must build a New and Better Man."

(I expect that people will understand both why this comes to mind, and why I expect to get some flak from posting it.)
Ahahahahahah! No, Alfy, you won't be getting any flak. Not from me, anyway.

Frankly, the that quote is amusing because it's 98% correct, and since the past few days I've also been on the receiving end of such Radicals' abuse. But if the quote's correct, they'll simply be circling in futility.

Quote
Like ill-mannered tourists, they assume that if you don't agree with them, it must be because they're not explaining it simply enough, or often enough, or loudly enough, or ultimately, because you're stupid.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 08, 2011, 04:14:16 pm
I used to be amused by Utopians. With life experience, I have grown to fear them. The great failing of Utopians is that they can never accept that someone else might not want to be a part of their utopian vision. Like ill-mannered tourists, they assume that if you don't agree with them, it must be because they're not explaining it simply enough, or often enough, or loudly enough, or ultimately, because you're stupid. Utopians always think achieving Utopia is simply a matter of education—and then re-education—and then coercion, legislation, litigation medication conditioning threats book-burnings eugenics surgical modifications hunting down the counter-revolutionaries killing the reactionaries genetic engineering—and ultimately all Utopians, no matter how nobly they begin, always end up at the same conclusion: that the only thing that keeps Man from building a secular heaven here on Earth is the nature of Man, therefore we must build a New and Better Man.

I think you labor under the misconceptions of straw man utopians. It's very hard to find an actual utopian story in our literature and entertainment nowadays, primarily because many people are too pessimistic or cynical to dare envision such a thing, or else because most of the ones who try don't really have utopian vision at heart so much as an ordering of "the world according to them." People with a real utopian vision are not concerned about ordering every last detail of people's lives.

I wouldn't assume that you were referring to my comments from the Sexism thread when you wrote that, but tushantin certainly was--he is waging a passive-aggressive campaign now, incapable of behaving better than a child--and so let me address that, if I may.

You may or may not see it, but the problem of sexism (and, pertinent to that discussion, the problem of sexism on the Internet) is a very serious one. It is an enduring injustice, one that limits and injures and ruins people's lives, and one that requires people of good conscience to act. It's very easy, alfadorredux, to look at the world, to see that it's messed up, and compare the hugeness of that mess to the meekness of your own power as an individual, and then sneer at--or cower from--the people who are trying to do something about it. The sentiment is understandable, as not everyone who wants to change the world perceives justice and injustice clearly, and many come up with the wrong solutions. Indeed, many people are not up to the task or have misguided views.

Yet your supposition of the straw man that anyone who pursues a utopia is really pursuing a nightmare is flatly incorrect. The arc of history is enough to attest to that. No one person is going to achieve a golden society, but many people acting together and in succession have slowly improved our way of life immeasurably. People enjoy more freedom, more opportunity, more material comfort, and are better-educated. Real utopians do not seek to pit people against one another, or oppress the lot of them, or keep them stupid or powerless. I don't know why you chose education as your starting point for criticizing them, but education really is the first and most important duty of everybody. Is that really something you reject?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on November 08, 2011, 04:21:44 pm
...when you wrote that...

Cribbed from someone's sig on another board:

He didn't write it, J.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 08, 2011, 04:25:07 pm
I wouldn't assume that you were referring to my comments from the Sexism thread when you wrote that, but tushantin certainly was
Eh? Was I? I was referring to something else entirely, and I could quote you your very statement:

"You found my criticism overly serious, careless, insulting, and so forth. Ergo, your frustration."

Josh, seriously. Why are you so insecure and paranoid all of a sudden? Why do you keep thinking I'm out to get you? And now you think that quote was Alfy's "supposition" when he clearly copy/pasted from elsewhere?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 08, 2011, 04:35:35 pm
He didn't write it, J.

Ah, the lack of a quote box got me. I thought he was paraphrasing. My mistake. To the extent the quote speaks for him, then my comments are still relevant. Otherwise, let them pass into the ether!

~~~ ~~~ ~~~
Why do you keep thinking I'm out to get you?

Tush, because you keep doing that, and apparently think that it constitutes an effective rhetoric, let me remind you: You are the one who thinks I am out to get you. I made that comment first, and you have mimicked it back at me several times now. To the extent you are out to get me at all, it is because you are having maturity problems dealing with criticism which you have perceived as an affront to whatever system of worth by which you measure yourself. I won't attempt yet to assess your whole character, since really I know very little about you, but your childishness here, your thoughtlessness, your passive-aggressiveness, and your thoroughly unlikable tone are all very much areas of your personality in need of considerable improvement.

Mimicry is middle school stuff. I don't think anyone on this forum is stupid enough to fall for such puerile taunting tactics, let alone me. You don't even believe most of the things you're saying about me, because, as soon as I make a positive comment in your direction, you bring out the flattery and the sycophancy. Of course, I don't enjoy that any more than this.

Don't you have a mode of interacting with people as a mature adult? Or are you resolved to live out our worst impressions of you?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 08, 2011, 04:51:07 pm
Tush, because you keep doing that, and apparently think that it constitutes an effective rhetoric, let me remind you: You are the one who thinks I am out to get you.
Meh, if thinking that really does satisfy your nervousness then fine. Whatever. Happy now? Want a cup cake?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 08, 2011, 04:54:18 pm
I would love a cupcake. Raspberry, please, with whipped cream frosting and sprinkles! But no poison. I know YOU'RE OUT TO GET ME!

(http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/b8/bb/pink,doom,cupcake-b8bb39cc0d9d41d9020221f7f5cdcd6a_m.jpg)

WAAAAAHHH!!

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 08, 2011, 07:13:20 pm
My word you guys...! It's one thing when it's heated discussion between individuals (biased or not), but...this is just ridiculous. You guys (Tush, Josh) are escalating to an entirely different level. And it doesn't matter which one of you started it, or who is prolonging it, or who is right or reasonable--if you really have to argue "who said what first" and "you're out to get me," then you should settle it privately...

...that's my opinion. It's not that I don't enjoy watching you argue, because Josh, you are incredibly silly and it's funny to watch you get frustrated, but it really doesn't add anything to the discussions when you completely stop talking about the subject in favor of arguing with each other.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on November 08, 2011, 07:26:50 pm
Don't listen to her! Katie's just out to get all of us, especially the Nus!

<_<

>_>

 :lol: Nus.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 08, 2011, 08:03:05 pm
It's not that I don't enjoy watching you argue, because Josh, you are incredibly silly and it's funny to watch you get frustrated...

Silly like a fox!

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l51qhfc7nR1qzzt55o1_500.jpg)

I'm sorry I can't abide your request. Tushantin's misbehavior itself is easy enough to overlook, and I generally ignore his posts now (although I haven't over the past couple of days), but when he stakes out sexist positions or commits other egregious breaches, it's very relevant indeed to the discussion at hand.

I think you will understand that for yourself one day, if you should ever decide you feel strongly about something.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 08, 2011, 09:21:33 pm
I think you will understand that for yourself one day, if you should ever decide you feel strongly about something.

Excuse me...?
Excuse me?!

I was merely commenting that YOUR RECENT POSTS had been COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC and only dedicated to arguing with each other and seeing who was out to get whom!

but when he stakes out sexist positions or commits other egregious breaches, it's very relevant indeed to the discussion at hand.

THIS IS PERFECTLY REASONABLE! WHEN your arguments are actually relevant and on-topic! But your last five posts have had nothing to do with sexism or anything else! They have merely been deconstructing each other's argumentative styles, lines of reasoning, and insulting each other! When it comes down to mud slinging and the topic at hand has been left by the wayside, THEN it is time to take it to a private discussion!

I am NOT, NOT suggesting that you should sacrifice intelligent discussion that is relevant to the topic, only that you do not devolve into petty squabbling! The same goes for Tushantin, who I am a little disappointed in for coming down to your level, Josh! Personal discussions over "Why Josh is so paranoid all of a sudden" should be privately carried out!

Don't think you can condescendingly tell me off, as if you know me personally! "I think you will understand that for yourself one day," as if I'm a small child with no knowledge of the world or misfortune? Who do you think you are? Who the hell do you think I am?!

I am trying to promote intelligent discussion, and your petty squabbling detracts from and interrupts the rest of the conversations trying to go on at the same time!

Quote from: Josh
but tushantin certainly was--he is waging a passive-aggressive campaign now, incapable of behaving better than a child--and so let me address that, if I may.

Your wild accusations--regardless if they are true or not--completely derailed the current topic! It doesn't matter if he was indirectly referring to you or not. You can't possibly know for sure that he was, so you shouldn't go on a huge rant about it!

Quote from: Tushantin
Eh? Was I? I was referring to something else entirely, and I could quote you your very statement:
"You found my criticism overly serious, careless, insulting, and so forth. Ergo, your frustration."
Josh, seriously. Why are you so insecure and paranoid all of a sudden? Why do you keep thinking I'm out to get you? And now you think that quote was Alfy's "supposition" when he clearly copy/pasted from elsewhere?
So, Tushantin had stated that he was not referring to you. It doesn't matter if he's lying. And I can understand why Tush then wondered aloud (so to speak) why you were being so ridiculous--as indeed you were! It didn't help matters any, but there you go. I don't condone Tush's actions any more than yours, however, Tushantin is by far more civil about things than you are--and I don't mean he doesn't state his opinions strongly! He is very well-spoken. You, on the other hand, turn everything into an angry tirade or a condescending sneer! The fact that you criticize his rhetoric and "behavior" as far as that can be assessed through text on a forum, when you, yourself, are extremely abrasive, even to a third-party observer (me! Because I try not to get involved too often in the discussions and so have no personal beef against anyone involved unless they are particularly horrid!)? Nonsense!

And Truthordeal, you are NOT HELPING by undermining my character! It doesn't even matter if you didn't mean it seriously! I was being serious and trying to stop this preposterous feud from interrupting everyone else! But no, you need to make light of what was in actuality a serious request from someone who likes to read discussion rather than personal arguments! You've really made it so much more difficult for me to make any difference! THANK YOU!

And, yes, I, too am contributing in derailing this topic! How ironic! You know what? I HAVE very strong opinions and feel very strongly about a lot of things, but I see no point in throwing my opinions all over the place, especially the internet! There's just no point! I am not going to change anyone else, and I don't need to! I just happen to enjoy reading intelligent discussion about current topics! Occasionally I will weigh in on a discussion or two (I did so just the other day, so it's not entirely unheard of), but I usually withdraw after a post or two because I am usually merely stating my opinion. I don't force it on anyone else, I simply state it. I don't think that everyone should be like me--feel free to foist your opinions and morals or feelings about whatever topic on everyone around you, and indeed, the entire internet. It's your right, and I enjoy reading them! But keep personal grievances PERSONAL. PRIVATE.
As I said, as much as I enjoy reading your arguments, they derail the topics they take place in! And I go to those topics to read about the latest in Compendium discussion, not about Tushantin x Josh drama! If you're feeling really charitable, you could start a topic just for yourselves to bicker on, so that I could read that when I want a laugh!

tl;dr: If you're going to fight each other instead of having an argument about the topic, do it privately or elsewhere.

It's a quote digest, right? Well you know what? Here!
Quote from: James Hook
Someday our enemies might win, but not today!
This is practically my favorite quote from anything ever! You don't have to discuss it, but here it is just in case!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on November 08, 2011, 09:41:20 pm
Quote from: John Waters
We need to make books cool again.  If you go home with somebody and they don’t have books, don’t fuck them.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Truthordeal on November 08, 2011, 09:42:28 pm
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And Truthordeal, you are NOT HELPING by undermining my character! It doesn't even matter if you didn't mean it seriously! I was being serious and trying to stop this preposterous feud from interrupting everyone else! But no, you need to make light of what was in actuality a serious request from someone who likes to read discussion rather than personal arguments! You've really made it so much more difficult for me to make any difference! THANK YOU!

Calm down, Katie. Take a step back and reassess what's going on. I realize that you're upset about the situation and you're annoyed by the arguing and back-and-forth. I was too. Still am, somewhat, but you need to understand that this is often what happens in a community filled with robust personalities with very different worldviews. I don't necessarily like seeing a thread that tush or J have recently posted in and having the preeminent though be "Here we go again," but it's part of the group dynamic, and one I've been unfortunate enough to contribute to from time to time.  

Now we can handle these types of situations a couple of ways: 1) we can ask them to stop and take it to PMs, or 2) You can try humor to diffuse the situation, which is what J and I attempted in this case. Method 1 usually works fairly well because of the mutual respect most of us have on this board. So long as you're not asking J to take it easy on someone, which I think he thinks you did, then the warring factions usually oblige. But personally, I prefer the humor approach. It's far more pleasant, and can bring heated tempers down really quickly. It also gives the people squabbling a taste of their own preposterity(it's a word now). So please understand that I wasn't trying to undermine your character or your request. I was just trying to bring down the emotional temperature a bit and in doing so had some fun at your expense. I re-read what I wrote and I guess I came off as a bit patronizing, and I'm sorry for that. No buts on my behalf. My post was ill-timed and probably a bit too facetious. Sorry.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 08, 2011, 09:46:56 pm
Even if it was completely innocent...actually, considering your motives, I will retract that part of my statement.

However, the rest remains.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 08, 2011, 10:14:31 pm
You're right. I owe you an apology for implying that you have no strong convictions. I apologize for that. I even knew when I wrote it that I was making that implication, even though I suspected it was unlikely that you don't have any such convictions. For that, a more serious apology is in order. I apologize for that as well.

Now, what I will not accept from you, nor from anyone, is to be told to essentially "sit down and shut up" so that you can enjoy your peaceful blissful world where everyone gets along because no one is willing to stand up for their convictions when fools like tush come along to promote ideas which will spoil the lives of others.

You will entrust and respect people to decide for themselves what is important to them. This forum does not exist for your amusement. We are told all our lives by well-meaning people to "stand up for what we believe in." But when some of us actually try to do that, and people like you give us hell for it--for standing by our principles when it would be so much nicer and easier and more polite to just shut up and talk about something non-controversial--it sends a message that, really, people should point whichever way the wind is blowing.

I know that is not what you really want, so take a moment to contemplate your stance.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on November 08, 2011, 10:31:19 pm
Now, what I will not accept from you, nor from anyone, is to be told to essentially "sit down and shut up" so that you can enjoy your peaceful blissful world where everyone gets along because no one is willing to stand up for their convictions when fools like tush come along to promote ideas which will spoil the lives of others...
I know that is not what you really want, so take a moment to contemplate your stance.

I was not telling you to sit down and shut up, nor do I live in a "blissful world where everyone gets along" because the reason I go to these certain forums is to see intelligent discussion by people who are most of the time not getting along. Just because I don't feel the need to prove that I have opinions by posting them on the internet, doesn't mean I don't have them, and it doesn't mean that you can't have them.

I am also fine with you "standing up" to Tush when it relates to the topic at hand. When it relates to the topic at hand. When it relates to the topic at hand.
But when you get off-topic and turn to mud-slinging, as I've said multiple times already, then it needs to move elsewhere. I don't care how much you guys insult each other as long as there's some discussion of the topic, but that was not happening in your most recent posts.

But when some of us actually try to do that, and people like you give us hell for it--for standing by our principles when it would be so much nicer and easier and more polite to just shut up and talk about something non-controversial--it sends a message that, really, people should point whichever way the wind is blowing.

Again, I am not saying you should stop discussing whatever controversial thing or topic you were discussing! Feel free to beat it to death! Get mad! Stand up for your opinions...in the context of the discussion!
Don't abandon the topic altogether in favor of insulting your opponent out of context!

And I'll state again my stance: It's fine to disagree, it's fine to argue, it's even fine to insult as long as it relates to the discussion. It is not okay to start bashing each other and having a private spat in a topic meant for public discussion.
An analogy that is in no way meant to be taken literally: A (dating)couple having a fight in the middle of debate club. Yes, the environment is meant for heated debate, but not the kind they're having!

"so take a moment to contemplate your stance." If you think that I'd write a big post like that without thoroughly contemplating my stance, you are quite mistaken.

There are other things in your post (and indeed, all of your posts) that I could argue with, but it's just not relevant and it's bad enough that I'm still talking about this at all.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on November 08, 2011, 10:46:10 pm
You don't get it, do you?

I don't like bickering wish tushantin. Indeed, I try and ignore him when I can. I admit I have not held to that very well in the last couple of days, since a lot of ink has been spilled in the Sexism thread and elsewhere. Unfortunately, there are relevant details to be addressed, and an immature person at the heart of the them.

I know the saying, "Don't wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and the pig loves it." I am well aware of the point you are trying to make. I don't claim infallible judgment, but for the most part I have stuck to the issue at hand. Sometimes tushantin's misbehavior becomes a part of the issue. This is not superfluous stuff, for the most part. He has made inappropriate comments here on the forums and has offended more than one Compendiumite, myself included. His reaction to all of this is to behave like a little kid, copy and paste my sentences and fling them back at me. I am well aware that I am not going to reach through to him, with an attitude like his. Nor am I trying at this point. He is a lost cause. I leave him to more patient folks.

What I am trying to do is live and communicate consistently when ethical injustices present themselves. Sometimes that entails dealing with foolish people who behave badly. You are not the first person to complain that your precious forum decorum has been disturbed, and you are not the first to give short-shrift to the realities and necessities of true, honest, principled communication. While I would very much like it if people like tush did not come around here, they do, and so that is the world we live in. Indeed, people like that make the population swell. Social interaction takes many forms, many of them unpleasant, yet that is the way it is and we either live with that or we live in denial of it.

If you continue to see this as nothing more than a petty squabble, then you are making a very crucial mistake in reading the development of events. I don't get any joy from being taunted by tush--at most the occasional laugh when his efforts rise to the level of ridiculousness--and I don't enjoy confrontations either. But I do what I must. Register your disdain all you like. I do not accept it. I would much prefer you put some of that intellect of yours to better use and approach these sorts of problems from a less self-absorbed position.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 09, 2011, 03:18:08 am
Katie's got a vivid style of putting her posts together, doesn't she? XD (It's a compliment, BTW)

Something tells me that Josh is trying to subliminally "threaten" me to submit, lest he tells tells everyone about my "offenses". His eagerness in holding my records against me is a low and pathetic strategy, and it only goes to show that he feels threatened by clear reasoning and foreign ideas, and thus his paranoia and insecurity. Let me spill it out for you, aye, Josh?

The only person I remember "offending" is Sajainta, and that was out of failure in communication, unintentional, and out of hesitation and approval. I never said anything wrong then and I'm willing to testify because my thoughts were beneficial for social security research. The reason I haven't justified my actions yet is because if she was hurt unintentionally and if I'm responsible then all I know is that I ought to redeem myself for my mistakes, and I'm willing to atone even now.

The same goes for Tushantin, who I am a little disappointed in for coming down to your level, Josh! Personal discussions over "Why Josh is so paranoid all of a sudden" should be privately carried out!
Well, he is paranoid! XD

Ahahah! I'm glad our bickering amused you. You're right, though, it actually did get out of hand. Josh may take an immature approach when it comes to debates and he ends up personally insulting those who so much as raise a question against it, but at least I ought to be more mature and take a step back. Thank you for your time, and I very much appreciate your feelings. I promise this needless charade will end soon.

Don't think you can condescendingly tell me off, as if you know me personally! "I think you will understand that for yourself one day," as if I'm a small child with no knowledge of the world or misfortune?
He always does that, don't worry. Notice how he says I "promote ideas" when I clearly haven't shared anything in detail yet, and how he asks you to "shut up" without respecting your views and claims he wouldn't. Most of the time his statements are meaningless blather and nothing else, so just listen from one ear and toss it out the other. That's what the rest of the Compendium does, because chances are he'll accuse and insult you too if you don't agree with him.

I admire your ability to keep a clear nose and not get involved in feuds that may allow potential accusers and predators to target you. But, as I said before, Katie, your opinions are yours and they are very much valuable. Don't let any doohickey discourage you from speaking, especially when it's important.

Now, back to the topic at hand.
Quote from: Gandhi
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on November 09, 2011, 04:04:42 am
From Frankenstein, by Mary Wollstonecraft Shelly:

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But success SHALL crown my endeavours. Wherefore not? Thus far I have gone, tracing a secure way over the pathless seas, the very stars themselves being witnesses and testimonies of my triumph. Why not still proceed over the untamed yet obedient element? What can stop the determine heart and resolved will of man?

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In other studies you go as far as others have gone before you, and there is nothing more to know; but in a scientific pursuit there is continual food for discovery and wonder.
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Post by: Sajainta on November 09, 2011, 04:13:40 am
I love that novel.  Here's another quote from Frankenstein:

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My life might have been passed in ease and luxury; but I preferred glory to every enticement that wealth placed in my path. My courage and my resolution is firm; but my hopes fluctuate, and my spirits are often depressed. I am about to proceed on a long and difficult voyage, the emergencies of which will demand all my fortitude: I am required not only to raise the spirits of others, but sometimes to sustain my own, when theirs are failing. Yet do not suppose, because I complain a little, that I am wavering in my resolutions. I cannot describe to you my sensations on the near prospect of my undertaking. It is impossible to communicate to you a conception of the trembling sensation, half pleasurable and half fearful, with which I am preparing to depart. My swelling heart involuntarily pours itself out thus. But I must finish.
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Post by: Mr Bekkler on November 09, 2011, 10:18:17 am
It also gives the people squabbling a taste of their own preposterity(it's a word now).

A wonderful word, you magnanimous smith! Seriously, I thoroughly enjoyed this sentence.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 16, 2011, 10:19:29 am
From Zelda 2 that I was playing earlier tonight:

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If all else fails use fire.

The whole game is quotable for its bad but often correct grammar.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 17, 2011, 01:32:40 am
Following a good soak in Zelda 2 dialogue, I think I've cracked the code to writing pithy, enigmatic fortune cookies. Just write very simple, literal ideas out in short form, rearrange the sentence components to somewhere between "Normal" and "Yoda," and omit the occasional article. Here are a few tries, with a Zelda-inspired one for starters:

"In dark places use candle to light the way."

"Find important objects underfoot."

"Here and there discover enjoyment."

"Your attorney works hard to bring you good news."

"Do not allow cat and dog to be unsupervised together."

"To help flowers grow use the hose."

"Pedestrians know what motorists choose to ignore."

"The grasshopper does not sing what will happen next."

"Do not look away in frustrated silence."

"The cookie is only a guide to fortune. Like the moonlight it has little to say but will show you what is already in reach."

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Post by: Truthordeal on November 17, 2011, 01:23:33 pm
"A delayed game will be good eventually; a bad game will be bad forever." - Shigeru Miyamoto.
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Post by: tushantin on November 18, 2011, 11:57:33 am
Quote from: Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Toiling,---rejoicing,---sorrowing,
Onward through life he goes;
Each morning sees some task begin,
Each evening sees it close;
Something attempted, something done,
Has earned a night's repose.

Thanks, thanks to thee, my worthy friend,
For the lesson thou hast taught!
Thus at the flaming forge of life
Our fortunes must be wrought;
Thus on its sounding anvil shaped
Each burning deed and thought.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 18, 2011, 02:52:15 pm
Quote
If triangles had a God, He'd have three sides.

~ Yiddish proverb
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Post by: Thought on November 18, 2011, 06:05:07 pm
Are you saying that Trinitarians are really triangles in disguise?!

Quote from: Mary Shelley
The labours of men of genius, no matter how erroneously directed, scarcely ever fail in ultimately turning to the solid advantage of mankind.
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Post by: Katie Skyye on November 18, 2011, 06:33:33 pm
Are you saying that Trinitarians are really triangles in disguise?!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2506/3718039819_50bc63c44a.jpg)
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Post by: Syna on November 18, 2011, 09:30:08 pm
So much love for Frankenstein. It has such an crucial place in the Romantic corpus.

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I have myself been blasted in these hopes, yet another may succeed.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 19, 2011, 12:32:18 pm
Quote
A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.

~ Alexander Pope
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on November 19, 2011, 01:59:28 pm
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A wise man will not       overweening be,
        and stake too much on his strength;
when the mighty are met       to match their strength,
        'twill be found that first is no one.
~The Havamal
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Post by: Sajainta on November 23, 2011, 01:59:14 am
Quote from: Sophie Scholl
The real damage is done by those millions who want to ‘survive.’ The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don’t want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won’t take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don’t like to make waves—or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honour, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small. It’s the reductionist approach to life: if you keep it small, you’ll keep it under control. If you don’t make any noise, the bogeyman won’t find you. But it’s all an illusion, because they die too, those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe. Safe?! From what? Life is always on the edge of death; narrow streets lead to the same place as wide avenues, and a little candle burns itself out just like a flaming torch does. I choose my own way to burn.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 23, 2011, 03:43:50 am
Quote from: Sophie Scholl
The real damage is done by those millions who want to ‘survive.’ The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don’t want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won’t take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don’t like to make waves—or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honour, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small. It’s the reductionist approach to life: if you keep it small, you’ll keep it under control. If you don’t make any noise, the bogeyman won’t find you. But it’s all an illusion, because they die too, those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe. Safe?! From what? Life is always on the edge of death; narrow streets lead to the same place as wide avenues, and a little candle burns itself out just like a flaming torch does. I choose my own way to burn.
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs14/f/2007/060/d/7/Burning_empire_by_doggery.jpg) (http://doggery.deviantart.com/art/Burning-empire-49905592)
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Post by: Thought on November 24, 2011, 10:49:48 pm
"Plums deify!" - Steven King
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Post by: tushantin on November 25, 2011, 05:42:05 pm
Quote from: William Blake
How have you left the ancient love
That bards of old enjoy'd in you!
The languid strings do scarcely move,
The sound is forced, the notes are few.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 27, 2011, 05:46:09 pm
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Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 28, 2011, 09:49:11 am
Quote from: Rabindranath Tagore, Gitanjali -- VIII
(Yeats translation)

The child, who is decked with prince's robes and who has jeweled chains round his neck loses all pleasure in his play; his dress hampers him at every step.

In fear that it may be frayed, or stained with dust he keeps himself from the world, and is afraid even to move.

Mother, it is no gain, thy bondage of finery, if it keep one shut off from the healthiest dust of the earth, if it rob one of the right of entrance to the great fair of common human life.

Tagore... Such an brilliant and vivid artistic mind he has, much like William Blake himself. Alas, his works lose such depth, music and meaning when translated from Bengali to English.

One of these days I'll take it upon myself to re-translate a few of his works, either in all its aesthetic glory or in William Blake style.

Quote from: Rabindranath Tagore, Gitanjali -- XI
(Yeats translation)

Leave this chanting and singing and telling of beads! Whom dost thou worship in this lonely dark corner of a temple with doors all shut? Open thine eyes and see thy God is not before thee!

He is there where the tiller is tilling the hard ground and where the pathmaker is breaking stones. He is with them in sun and in shower, and his garment is covered with dust. Put off the holy mantle and even like him come down on the dusty soil!

Deliverance? Where is this deliverance to be found? Our master himself has joyfully taken upon him the bonds of creation; he is bound with us all for ever.

Come out of thy meditations and leave aside thy flowers and incense! What harm is there if thy clothes become tattered and stained? Meet him and stand by him in the toil and in sweat of they brow.
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Post by: tushantin on November 29, 2011, 12:38:49 pm
Quote from: William Butler Yeats
Words are always getting conventionalized to some secondary meaning. It is one of the works of poetry to take the truants in custody and bring them back to their right senses.

Quote from: William Butler Yeats
The friends that have it I do wrong
Whenever I remake a song
Should know what issue is at stake,
It is myself that I remake.

Quote from: William Butler Yeats
We make out of the quarrel with others, rhetoric, but of the quarrel with ourselves, poetry.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kodokami on November 29, 2011, 02:03:47 pm
Quote from: Neil deGrasse Tyson
But some of the greatest poetry is revealing to the reader the beauty of something that was so simple you had taken it for granted. That I think is job of the poet.
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Post by: Lord J Esq on November 29, 2011, 09:42:09 pm
Yeah, that was a good line. I'm not sure I inherently agree, but it caught my attention when he said it and it made me think. If not unequivocally true, it has a lot of truth in it.
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Post by: Kodokami on November 29, 2011, 10:32:46 pm
Can't say I entirely agree with it either, but that phrase, or perhaps the way in which he said it, really made me pause in thought. Passionate.

Neil Tyson is one of those physicists who have caught my attention, so it was great to listen to that interview.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on November 29, 2011, 11:19:17 pm
I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Er, sorry. To get back on topic:

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I'm glad you enjoyed it!

~ Lord J Esq
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 30, 2011, 01:40:10 am
I actually agree with that quote by Tyson. Taking for granted is human nature, no matter how open-minded or skeptical one may become, and while skepticism itself is a practical approach to confirm truth it also has shades of ignorance within that denies the skeptic of certain visions (take it or leave it; that's just my thoughts). Psychologically, common folks would take what's given to them based on methods or who is giving it to them. When a annoying neighbor says a "fact", the audience may simply dismiss it as bullshit. But when a poet paints the same thing in ways that the audience understands, it's taken for granted.

I've always said it and I'll say it again:

Quote from:  Edward Bulwer-Lytton
True, This! —
Beneath the rule of men entirely great,
The pen is mightier than the sword. Behold
The arch-enchanters wand! — itself a nothing! —
But taking sorcery from the master-hand
To paralyse the Cæsars, and to strike
The loud earth breathless! — Take away the sword —
States can be saved without it!
.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 30, 2011, 03:59:40 am
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Neil DeGrasse Tyson: Scientists are not without moral code. (etc.)
Steven Colbert: Scientists use the Terminator, or create a Super Bug that wipes out the world, or they enrage the monster at the bottom of the sea.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson: When you part the curtains and, at the bottom of all of that, there's a Politician funding that research.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 02, 2011, 05:00:01 pm
Quote from: Jonah Lehrer
We judge books by the cover and minds by their appearance. We are a superficial species
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Post by: Sajainta on December 03, 2011, 03:58:39 am
Quote from: Cecilia Hartley--Letting Ourselves Go: Making Room for the Fat Body in Feminist Scholarship
Women who are fat are said to have 'let themselves go.' The very phrase connotes a loosening of restraints. Women in our society are bound. In generations past, the constriction was accomplished by corsets and girdles…. Women today are bound by fears, by oppression, and by stereotypes that depict large women as ungainly, unfeminine, and unworthy of appreciation…. Above all, women must control themselves, must be careful, for to relax might lead to the worst possible consequence: being fat.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 05, 2011, 05:10:03 am
Quote from: William Blake
Improvement makes straight roads; but the crooked roads without improvement are the roads of genius.
Something tells me there's a lot more depth and meaning in this statement than most imagine it to be.

Quote from: Rabindranath Tagore
“You can't cross the sea merely by standing and staring at the water.”

“Let your life lightly dance on the edges of Time like dew on the tip of a leaf.”

Quote from:  H. Jackson Brown, Jr
“People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 06, 2011, 09:48:55 am
Quote from: Pablo Picasso
Some painters transform the sun into a yellow spot, others transform a yellow spot into the sun.
Picasso was the TRUE Springtime of Youth!

Quote from: Pablo Picasso
The world today doesn't make sense, so why should I paint pictures that do?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 09, 2011, 02:05:00 am
I loved Odyssey, but I never got the chance to finish Iliad. Still, Homer was quite master at what he did.

Quote from: Iliad
You will certainly not be able to take the lead in all things yourself, for to one man a god has given deeds of war, and to another the dance, to another lyre and song, and in another wide-sounding Zeus puts a good mind.

Quote from: Odyssey
There with commutual zeal we both had strove
In acts of dear benevolence and love:
Brothers in peace, not rivals in command.

Quote from: Odyssey
Jove weighs affairs of earth in dubious scales,
And the good suffers while the bad prevails.

Quote from: Iliad
It is not strength, but art, obtains the prize,
And to be swift is less than to be wise.
'T is more by art than force of num'rous strokes.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on December 09, 2011, 03:03:06 am
HOMER, HOMER, HOMER!!!

God, that makes me want to dust off my Classical Greek! I never translated more than passages, but in retrospect it seems so worth all those weekends spent ruining my posture & hunched over a dictionary.

The Iliad has one of the best and most heartbreaking endings of any story I've ever read. It's well worth finishing, tush.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 09, 2011, 05:27:47 am
I never translated more than passages, but in retrospect it seems so worth all those weekends spent ruining my posture & hunched over a dictionary.
XD

You'd rather bask in glory of the masters, in its truest essence, (and ruin your back as a result) rather than accept a ready-translated / aesthetic rewrite, wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on December 09, 2011, 02:30:59 pm
Well, I'd rather do that, but the practical difficulty of Ancient Greek more or less forbids it. XD It took us a whole semester to get through one play, and these days I do like to have more fun on my weekends than read dictionaries, as a general rule.

(I'll never forget when my Greek teacher basically admitted to me that like 75% of Greek linguistic scholarship is speculation. D'oh.)

And there's plenty of languages I'll never get to whose literature should be appreciated. A good translator's an artist themself, though.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on December 09, 2011, 06:56:17 pm
I'm greatly annoyed that "Ajax" is the name of a missile and a cleaning agent. I would like to name a child that. Both the Greater and the Lesser were among my favorite characters from the Iliad.

Quote
The Doctor: Yes, he likes that … Alfie. Though personally, he likes to be called Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All.
Craig: ... how’d you know that?
The Doctor: I speak Baby.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on December 10, 2011, 07:17:48 am
[Humanity] is a little more than a waste. And yes, fuck you.

Quote
What men wish, they like to believe.

~ Julius Caesar
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 10, 2011, 10:22:08 am
[Humanity] is a little more than a waste. And yes, fuck you.

Quote
What men wish, they like to believe.

~ Julius Caesar

Josh, weren't you just ranting about the "endless stream of mooks who try to elevate themselves by invoking names like Heisenberg, Chomsky, Gödel...and Aristotle, Jesus, Einstein, Gandhi, Aquinas, Mozart, Caesar" (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,4445.msg212173.html#msg212173)? Now you're invoking Caesar's name "all for the futile sake of proving your absurd point"?

And also, that's your childish idea of throwing a vindictive barb at me? Were you so upset by the idea of my frank disagreement that you'd toss away your pretense of magnanimity and go so low? How would anyone even trust you when you make the same errors that you wrongly accuse others of doing so?

What, now you're going to bully me for all this?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on December 10, 2011, 11:19:07 am
Well, this is a quotations thread, after all. Unless one intends purely to invoke themselves, the whole point is to repeat what others have said. I think you may be having a bad day.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on December 10, 2011, 03:00:56 pm
And I think this is a case where it would be helpful to get back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Quote
“There is no greater agony than bearing an untold story inside you.”
--Maya Angelou

Less time spent on pissing contests gives us more time to write, yar?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on December 10, 2011, 03:08:53 pm
I don't know that I agree with Angelou...or at least it strikes me that the accuracy of her comment is variable from person to person. For as much consternation as it has brought me to have worked on my novel for over a decade and still not be done with the first book of it, I have also discovered a very hearty satisfaction with precisely what she terms an agony. My story is better than I will ever be able to make it on the page. It's a treasure and a delight, and just traveling with it in my life is both gratifying and elevating.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on December 10, 2011, 03:38:31 pm
Yeah, it's good to remember that the state of not being published, or otherwise brought to fruition, doesn't prevent a work from existing. All storytellers have that at least! I guess I use it as a carrot to dangle in front of me when the going gets rough: even if I'm in the shit now, I still have a fighting chance of finishing the idea that's churning around in my mind as long as I make it through.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 10, 2011, 03:44:02 pm
The destiny of art isn't in the publication office, but with the people, in their hearts.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on December 10, 2011, 07:53:38 pm
I don't know the context of Angelou's quote, but I interpret it as more than just writing.  An "untold story" could be an actual story idea, but it could also be a painful memory or a beautiful experience or a profound discovery.  Something that you desperately want to share with someone, but for some reason cannot.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on December 10, 2011, 09:54:20 pm
Thanks Sajainta, that didn't occur to me until well after I had posted it. I tried to go back and find out a little more about the context, but sadly I'm turning up the usual lists of disembodied quotes. From what I understand her works had a strong autobiographical bent, so I wouldn't be surprised if she meant it precisely as you describe it.

This reminds me of a huge debate my ninth grade English class had, trying to figure out the meaning of "I know why the caged bird sings."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 11, 2011, 01:20:43 am
This reminds me of a huge debate my ninth grade English class had, trying to figure out the meaning of "I know why the caged bird sings."
Are you sure it's not a lament? XD
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on December 11, 2011, 12:40:44 pm
Quote from: The Eleventh Doctor
It's got my name written all over it. Well, not literally, but give me time and a crayon!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 11, 2011, 12:51:28 pm
Quote from: The Eleventh Doctor
Planets and history and stuff, that's what we do. But not today, no. Today we're answering a cry for help from the scariest place in the universe. A child's bedroom.
Damn, I'll always love this one!

And this:

Quote
The Doctor: Through crimson stars and silent stars and tumbling nebulas like oceans set on fire. Through empires of glass and civilizations of pure thought. And a whole terrible wonderful universe of impossibilities. You see these eyes, they're old eyes. And one thing I can tell you, Alex: monsters are real.

Alex: ...You're not from Social Services are you?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Syna on December 11, 2011, 02:11:35 pm
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Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

I normally shy away from the sentiments that you might see on motivational posters, but I like this one quite a bit: it reminds me that everyone is a universe, everyone's trials are (in one way or another) momentous to themselves, and that people are defensive about their lives because their lives are all they have. It's not always very much.

I believe there are times when you should not be kind, but as a rule, people deserve our charity. Life is confusing, tumultuous, and often very difficult. We should try to help each other fight the battles boldly.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 12, 2011, 11:52:46 am
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Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

I normally shy away from the sentiments that you might see on motivational posters, but I like this one quite a bit: it reminds me that everyone is a universe, everyone's trials are (in one way or another) momentous to themselves, and that people are defensive about their lives because their lives are all they have. It's not always very much.

I believe there are times when you should not be kind, but as a rule, people deserve our charity. Life is confusing, tumultuous, and often very difficult. We should try to help each other fight the battles boldly.
I've been meaning to respond to this, but just didn't have the words to. Perhaps this is the best I can say: I'm going to take these words to heart, till death.

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/181/1/9/Kindness_by_Shy_Light.jpg) (http://shy-light.deviantart.com/art/Kindness-90207353)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/249/7/d/thor___forgive_me__brother_by_aaorin-d492n2w.jpg) (http://aaorin.deviantart.com/art/Thor-Forgive-Me-Brother-257104472)

(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/137/e/0/e04475be8d50dd6db83cfefdf22a4766.png) (http://yuumei.deviantart.com/art/It-s-Okay-164380551)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs16/i/2011/043/8/c/blackbird___too_late_by_shilin-dy7q8l.jpg) (http://shilin.deviantart.com/art/Blackbird-Too-Late-57467541)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on December 12, 2011, 01:14:01 pm
I realize that it's missing the point, but I want to whip out that last picture, or some variant thereof, anytime people defend female game characters running around in little more than leather bikinis while their male counterparts march in full plate mail.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 12, 2011, 05:23:35 pm
XDDD See what I mean by "Feminism going crazy sometimes"?

RD, no offense, but go read Carciphona first. Then take a look at the artist's and the characters' bio. Then we'll talk.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on December 12, 2011, 10:09:40 pm
EDIT: I'll have to let RD speak for himself, but I'm not sure RD's point is actually a criticism of the media you posted, tushantin. That pic could very well be seen as one of the few realistic works that reveal the fallacy behind the kind of attitude lampooned in this College Humor sketch (http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6550847/female-armor-sucks). In that sense, it could indeed be an effective piece of media for RD to whip out the next time this pet peeve crops up!

Interestingly, it seems the depicted character isn't always (http://carciphona.com/characters.php?page=veloce) found in that attire. This alone intrigues me, and since the art style is interesting, I look forward to learning more about this manga/series.


To keep this on topic:

Quote from: a fortune cookie
Only one who attempts the absurd can achieve the impossible.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on December 12, 2011, 10:36:47 pm
Quote from: Ralph Waldo Emerson
“Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on December 13, 2011, 01:50:52 am
Allow me to clarify. Faust has correctly identified the reasoning behind my post. I think that the image is a good demonstration of precisely why it is absurd that female armor covers less skin than beachwear.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 13, 2011, 02:28:27 am
Allow me to clarify. Faust has correctly identified the reasoning behind my post. I think that the image is a good demonstration of precisely why it is absurd that female armor covers less skin than beachwear.
EDIT: I'll have to let RD speak for himself, but I'm not sure RD's point is actually a criticism of the media you posted, tushantin. That pic could very well be seen as one of the few realistic works that reveal the fallacy behind the kind of attitude lampooned in this College Humor sketch (http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6550847/female-armor-sucks). In that sense, it could indeed be an effective piece of media for RD to whip out the next time this pet peeve crops up!
Haha, it's completely understood that an artwork depicted as such from he surface would incite certain biased interpretations (which is usually a good thing), though you'd still benefit from researching the origins beforehand. Pardon me if I hadn't been clear, though. What I meant back there was that RD's statement was biased hence with surface interpretation without the background knowledge of the picture itself (plus, seriously, go read Carciphona; it's awesome). The story behind the picture has nothing to do with RD's claims -- unlike traditional character roles, the "aggressive warrior" is the girl while the boy there doesn't have an armor to begin with since he's a passive violinist. He isn't so much as trying to defend her. He mourns for her. He offers kindness, and that's despite the fact that the female protagonist has only been an asshole towards him. And yet he forgives her.

This reflects on Syna's claim: "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."

Quote from: a fortune cookie
Only one who attempts the absurd can achieve the impossible.
Heh, I agree with that. If mankind never had the liberty to commit mistakes then it would never have the liberty to nurture ingenuity.

Quote from: Ralph Waldo Emerson
“Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes."
Though I don't agree with that statement, but that's just me. Common sense is also usually the sole case of intellectual fallacy.  :P
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on December 13, 2011, 02:42:44 am
Quote from: tushantin
Haha, it's completely understood that an artwork depicted as such from he surface would incite certain biased interpretations (which is usually a good thing), though you'd still benefit from researching the origins beforehand. Pardon me if I hadn't been clear, though. What I meant back there was that RD's statement was biased hence with surface interpretation without the background knowledge of the picture itself...
Hmm, I think we might still be talking over each other. It's not that RD had a biased interpretation; he thought the work had great intrinsic value even without knowing the context. Even reacting to it out of context, RD saw it as a useful inversion of the woman-in-skimpy-armor trope, because it actually shows a realistic outcome of not wearing armor in dangerous situations. It makes all the more sense when it's put in context; based on your description and what I've been able to investigate of it so far, it looks like a progressive work.

In short, what I'm saying is that you misinterpreted what RD was trying to communicate. I made the same mistake myself at first.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on December 13, 2011, 03:31:30 am
I will clarify further. The context of the image doesn't actually matter. I have no knowledge of the roles or stories of the characters, nor is such knowledge needed for the purposes of my comment. The picture shows a female character in fairly typical video game female clothing, and who has been critically injured. Judging by the picture, more substantial armor likely could have prevented her injuries.

It is in this regard that the picture is valuable in discussing women's clothing in video games. Whether she is a strong or weak person is irrelevant: She's dramatically under-dressed, and her injuries are apparently at least in part a result of this.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on December 14, 2011, 02:26:18 pm
The idea of making a clarification implies a willingness to learn among those who are missing the point. I've learned that the hard way, and not just with tush. Don't forget that, when you go about deciding what is worth your time and what is not, and what actions will lead toward the ends you want to achieve.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on December 14, 2011, 03:03:25 pm
tushantin and I continued this discussion over PM and I think he gets what RD meant now.

I was having trouble finding a good quote, but then I saw this! I hope you don't mind that I truncated it for snappiness.

Quote from: Lord J Esq
The best thing a writer can do to defeat sexism is [...] write compelling stories free of sexism.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 23, 2011, 05:16:05 am
Quote from: Mr Mafioso
If you don't get off your ass and continue your climb upwards, there will be someone younger, stronger and smarter who will take your place on the food chain. Sure you can live the good life the way you are now, but you'll never be the man you could have been. You're just another one of those smug "pretenders" happy with the BMW in the driveway and the 2.3 kids. Put that on your gravestone.
Quote from: Ben Jonson
Honor's a good brooch to wear in a man's hat at all times.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 27, 2011, 06:16:06 am
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Lizzy: Aww, thank you! Why are you soooo sweet?
Prem: My mom and dad have diabetes, so...
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 28, 2011, 02:13:18 pm
Quote from: An excerpt from R K Lakshman's works
Common Man: But... but why arrest me? I'm a witness!
Police Officer: You're a witness; that's your crime.

(Note: The point of the satire was that apparently in India a witness or samaritan is often treated worse than the suspects)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on January 15, 2012, 03:08:16 pm
Quote from: The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes - Silver Blaze
Gregory (Scotland Yard detective): "Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
Holmes: "To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time."
Gregory: "The dog did nothing in the night-time."
Holmes: "That was the curious incident."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on January 20, 2012, 12:46:16 pm
Quote from: Mohandas Gandhi
I will far rather see the race of man extinct than that we should become less than beasts by making the noblest of God's creation, woman, the object of our lust.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on January 21, 2012, 03:59:49 pm
Interesting! Reading through the Andrew Lane series I can easily consider it canonical. Why? I'll answer the question with another question: Why would you think I'd consider it canon in the first place? You could call this "fan-power", albeit a good one, as all the loose ends of the original seems to be tied quite successfully and effectively. One particular (nostalgic) parallel I just found was this:

(Note: Amyus Crowe, in Andrew Lane series, is Sherlock's mentor who taught him the art of detection, espionage, and many other crucial skills.)

Quote from: Young Sherlock Holmes - Black Ice
Sherlock Holmes: "How did you find me?"
Amyus Crowe: "Simple answer: ah was followin' you."
Sherlock Holmes: "I didn't see you."
Amyus Crowe: "That's what you can expect when ah follow you. Unlike you, ah can keep myself in the shadows, or in crowds, or around corners."
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes - His Last Bow - The Adventure of the Devil's Foot
Sterndale: "How do you know that?"
Sherlock: "I followed you."
Sterndale: "I saw no one."
Sherlock: "That is what you may expect to see when I follow you."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on January 23, 2012, 03:23:52 pm
So I was messing around with my boss' phone today (yes, I like stealing phones temporarily, but return them soon after with puppy-dog eyes and all) and installed Aldiko in it to read books, especially my favorite "Le Père Goriot". Read something quite interesting there!

Quote from: Honoré de Balzac
Our heart is a treasury; if you pour out all its wealth at once, you are bankrupt. We show no more mercy to the affection that reveals its utmost extent than we do to another kind of prodigal who has not a penny left.


Quote from: Honoré de Balzac
The next day Rastignac dressed himself very elegantly, and about three o'clock in the afternoon went to call on Mme. de Restaud. On the way thither he indulged in the wild intoxicating dreams which fill a young head so full of delicious excitement. Young men at his age take no account of obstacles nor of dangers; they see success in every direction; imagination has free play, and turns their lives into a romance; they are saddened or discouraged by the collapse of one of the visionary schemes that have no existence save in their heated fancy. If youth were not ignorant and timid, civilization would be impossible.

Quote from: Honoré de Balzac
He hesitated till the last moment, but finally dropped them in the box, saying, "I shall win!"--the cry of a gambler, the cry of the great general, the compulsive cry that has ruined more men than it has ever saved.

Quote from: Honoré de Balzac
However gross a man may be, the minute he expresses a strong and genuine affection, some inner secretion alters his features, animates his gestures, and colors his voice. The stupidest man will often, under the stress of passion, achieve heights of eloquence, in thought if not in language, and seem to move in some luminous sphere. Goriot's voice and gesture had at this moment the power of communication that characterizes the great actor. Are not our finer feelings the poems of the human will?
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: chi_z on January 31, 2012, 11:39:16 pm
wow man that last bunch was really......wow. the first one especially kinda hit home.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on February 04, 2012, 01:43:27 am
Quote from: Narrator, "The Call of Cthulhu"
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.

I just discovered H.P. Lovecraft for real and I can't help but kick myself for all I've missed out on. All this time I thought Cthulhu was a bit silly for being a giant octopus thing, but it's amazing how Lovecraft whipped it all up into a work that resonates on so many levels.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on February 04, 2012, 06:17:59 am
I just discovered H.P. Lovecraft for real and I can't help but kick myself for all I've missed out on. All this time I thought Cthulhu was a bit silly for being a giant octopus thing, but it's amazing how Lovecraft whipped it all up into a work that resonates on so many levels.

I fully approve this message.  I had heard a lot about Lovecraft, but didn't start reading him until 2009.  I borrowed a copy of Call of Cthulhu and Other Stories that summer from a friend and was immediately hooked.  My favourite story of his by far is "Celephaïs".  It is absolutely enchanting and beautifully written.  I highly recommend that story.  You should read At the Mountains of Madness as well.

Ah, I am still waiting for the day when someone will visit my profile and comment on the location I put.  "Hehe, Plateau of Leng, hehehe."  XD

/Lovecraft fangirl
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on February 04, 2012, 09:15:33 am
Quote from: Narrator, "The Call of Cthulhu"
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.

I just discovered H.P. Lovecraft for real and I can't help but kick myself for all I've missed out on. All this time I thought Cthulhu was a bit silly for being a giant octopus thing, but it's amazing how Lovecraft whipped it all up into a work that resonates on so many levels.
While I've never read Lovecraft, I am familiar with the context of his mythos. For one thing, I relate immensely with that quote.

The only difference is that because I'm a die-hard Holmesian, it's my job to piece together dissociated knowledge; as for the horrors hidden in the depth of insanity? Why, like the crazy thrill-seeking fool I am, I march towards it!

Quote from: Doctor Who - Satan's Pit
The Doctor: There it is again. That itch. "Go down go down go down go down."
Ida: The urge to jump. Do you know wher e it comes from, that sensation? Genetic heritage. Ever since we were primates in the tress. It's our body's way of testing us. Calculating whether or not we can reach the next branch.
The Doctor: No, that's not it. That's too kind. It's not the urge to jump, it's deeper than that. It's the urge to fall!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: FaustWolf on February 04, 2012, 10:49:08 am
Thanks Sajainta! I've got "Celephaïs" bookmarked now and shall endeavor to read it. I hope this website (http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/index.html) is a trustworthy collection; it looks like something put together in the 1990s, which it very well could have been.

tushantin, I'd recommend Lovecraft to you just because I think you'd be interested in looking at the writing style. There's a sort of Gothic richness to it, which is appropriate enough since these are supposed to be horror stories.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on February 04, 2012, 02:06:11 pm
I just read Celephais now and damn that was good! I did predict the ending but it was beautiful, albeit a little depressing.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on February 05, 2012, 12:57:19 am
albeit a little depressing.

Were you surprised?  =P  This is Lovecraft we're talking about.  Depressing endings are to Lovecraft as "every single woman gets married" is to Austen.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on February 05, 2012, 03:11:42 am
albeit a little depressing.

Were you surprised?  =P  This is Lovecraft we're talking about.  Depressing endings are to Lovecraft as "every single woman gets married" is to Austen.
And "every ice cream ever made" to Tushantin!


Quote from: Victor Hugo - Les Misérables
"Let us never fear robbers nor murderers. Those are dangers from without, petty dangers. Let us fear ourselves. Prejudices are the real robbers; vices are the real murderers. The great dangers lie within ourselves. What matters it what threatens our head or our purse! Let us think only of that which threatens our soul."
I FREAKIN' LOVE THIS BOOK!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Mr Bekkler on February 05, 2012, 11:08:16 am
And "every ice cream ever made" to Tushantin!

I don't get it. In Lovecraft's books, there are depressing endings. In Austen's books, every single woman gets married. In tushantin's books, every ice cream ever gets made?


albeit a little depressing.

Were you surprised?  =P  This is Lovecraft we're talking about.  Depressing endings are to Lovecraft as "every single woman gets married" is to Austen.
No, like I said I predicted it while reading, (though I thought it was going to happen around the halfway point and then get really crazy or something) but that didn't make it less beautiful. :)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on February 05, 2012, 02:42:16 pm
And "every ice cream ever made" to Tushantin!

I don't get it. In Lovecraft's books, there are depressing endings. In Austen's books, every single woman gets married. In tushantin's books, every ice cream ever gets made?
Yup! And I get to have all of em.  :D
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on February 21, 2012, 02:14:06 am
Quote from: Marilyn Monroe
“Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring.”

Finally, someone who agrees with me!

Quote from: Gandhi
“Be the change that you wish to see in the world.”

Thank you, Gandhi. I vow to make the whole world go insane!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on March 10, 2012, 10:02:07 am
Quote from: Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust
“You can’t, if you can’t feel it, if it never
Rises from the soul, and sways
The heart of every single hearer,
With deepest power, in simple ways.
You’ll sit forever, gluing things together,
Cooking up a stew from other’s scraps,
Blowing on a miserable fire,
Made from your heap of dying ash.
Let apes and children praise your art,
If their admiration’s to your taste,
But you’ll never speak from heart to heart,
Unless it rises up from your heart’s space.”

Quote from: Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust
“Whatever is the lot of humankind
I want to taste within my deepest self.
I want to seize the highest and the lowest,
to load its woe and bliss upon my breast,
and thus expand my single self titanically
and in the end go down with all the rest.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on March 11, 2012, 07:10:14 pm
From Paul Lafargue's The Right to be Lazy:

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Our epoch has been called the century of work. It is in fact the century of pain, misery and corruption.

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It must return to its natural instincts, it must proclaim the Rights of Laziness, a thousand times more noble and more sacred than the anaemic Rights of Man concocted by the metaphysical lawyers of the bourgeois revolution. It must accustom itself to working but three hours a day, reserving the rest of the day and night for leisure and feasting.

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And the times when man cramps his stomach and the machine enlarges its out-put are the very times when the economists preach to us the Malthusian theory, the religion of abstinence and the dogma of work.

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There is no more room for illusion as to the function of modern armies. They are permanently maintained only to suppress the “enemy within”.

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...the great problem of capitalist production is no longer to find producers and to multiply their powers but to discover consumers, to excite their appetites and create in them fictitious needs.

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What unknown wonders are contained in the “dark continent”! Fields are sown with elephants’ teeth, rivers of cocoanut oil are dotted with gold, millions of backsides, as bare as the faces of Dufaure and Girardin, are awaiting cotton goods to teach them decency, and bottles of schnaps and bibles from which they may learn the virtues of civilization.

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Cannot the laborers understand that by over-working themselves they exhaust their own strength and that of their progeny, that they are used up and long before their time come to be incapable of any work at ail, that absorbed and brutalized by this single vice they are no longer men but pieces of men, that they kill within themselves all beautiful faculties, to leave nothing alive and flourishing except the furious madness for work. Like Arcadian parrots, they repeat the lesson of the economist: “Let us work, let us work to increase the national wealth.”

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Under the old regime, the laws of the church guaranteed the laborer ninety rest days, fifty-two Sundays and thirty-eight holidays, during which he was strictly forbidden to work. This was the great crime of catholicism, the principal cause of the irreligion of the industrial and commercial bourgeoisie: under the revolution, when once it was in the saddle, it abolished the holidays and replaced the week of seven days by that of ten, in order that the people might no longer have more than one rest day out of the ten. It emancipated the laborers from the yoke of the church in order the better to subjugate them under the yoke of work.

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Protestantism, which was the Christian religion adapted to the new industrial and commercial needs of the bourgeoisie, was less solicitous for the people’s rest. It dethroned the saints in heaven in order to abolish their feast days on earth.

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And that is not all: In order to find work for all the non-producers of our present society, in order to leave room for the industrial equipment to go on developing indefinitely, the working class will be compelled, like the capitalist class, to do violence to its taste for abstinence and to develop indefinitely its consuming capacities. Instead of eating an ounce or two of gristly meat once a day, when it eats any, it will eat juicy beefsteaks of a pound or two; instead of drinking moderately of bad wine, it will become more orthodox than the pope and will drink broad and deep bumpers of Bordeaux and Burgundy without commercial baptism and will leave water to the beasts.

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O Laziness, have pity on our long misery! O Laziness, mother of the arts and noble virtues, be thou the balm of human anguish!

And from Cicero:

(http://www2.cnr.edu/home/araia/cicero.jpg)

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What honorable thing can come out of a shop? What can commerce produce in the way of honor? Everything called shop is unworthy an honorable man. Merchants can gain no profit without lying, and what is more shameful than falsehood? Again, we must regard as something base and vile the trade of those who sell their toil and industry, for whoever gives his labor for money sells himself and puts himself in the tank of slaves.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: alfadorredux on March 15, 2012, 10:07:39 am
Brought to mind by tush's remark in the Amusements thread:

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When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of being childish, and the desire to be very grown up. —C.S. Lewis
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: rushingwind on March 18, 2012, 12:28:46 am
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"Poets were the first teachers of mankind."
-Horace

Quote
"I wrote my first novel because I wanted to read it."
-Toni Morrison
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on March 28, 2012, 04:59:53 pm
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"Everybody is a genius. But, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will spend its whole life believing that it is stupid" ~Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 04, 2012, 06:45:43 pm
The more we talk, the more I realize your awesomeness!

Quote from: Kelsier/Brandon Sanderson
You’ll find I’m good at doing the impossible... It’s one of my specialties.

Quote from: Kelsier/Brandon Sanderson
I already saved the world. It only took me one book, I’ll add.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 07, 2012, 04:13:47 pm
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"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change a nation; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."

-Dr. Margaret Mead

Satyameva Jayate!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kodokami on April 08, 2012, 02:13:48 am
Quote from: Neil deGrasse Tyson
Fond of bow ties & hats. Handbag is bigger on the inside. Talks to variety of creatures. Evidence Mary Poppins is a Time Lord
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: utunnels on April 08, 2012, 10:16:16 am
Quote from: Through the Gates of the Silver Key
...The world of men and of the gods of men is merely an infinitesimal phase of an infinitesimal thing - the three-dimensional phase of that small wholeness. Though men hail it as reality, and band thoughts of its many-dimensioned original as unreality, it is in truth the very opposite. That which we call substance and reality is shadow and illusion, and that which we call shadow and illusion is substance and reality.

...Time is motionless, and without beginning or end. That it has motion and is the cause of change is an illusion. Indeed, it is itself really an illusion, for except to the narrow sight of beings in limited dimensions there are no such things as past, present and future. Men think of time only because of what they call change, yet that too is illusion. All that was, and is, and is to be, exists simultaneously.

...What the denizens of few-dimensioned zones call change is merely a function of their consciousness, which views the external world from various cosmic angles. As the Shapes produced by the cutting of a cone seem to vary with the angles of cutting - being circle, ellipse, parabola or hyperbola according to that angle, yet without any change in the cone itself - so do the local aspects of an unchanged - and endless reality seem to change with the cosmic angle of regarding.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on April 16, 2012, 11:11:54 pm
Quote from: Howard Taylor
Remember that when people are criticizing your writing, they are criticizing your writing. It's a reaction against your writing; it's not a reaction against you. The moment anyone starts criticizing you for your writing, you are allowed to start ignoring them, completely and utterly, forever.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 17, 2012, 04:25:53 pm
@utunnels: I wish I could "Like / Favourite" that post!

Quote from: Victor Hugo
“Do you hear the people sing
Lost in the valley of the night?
It is the music of a people
Who are climbing to the light.

For the wretched of the earth
There is a flame that never dies.
Even the darkest night will end
And the sun will rise.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 04, 2012, 08:38:11 am
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This is the beginning of a new day. You have been given this day to use as you will. You can waste it or use it for good. What you do today is important because you are exchanging a day of your life for it. When tomorrow comes, this day will be gone forever; in its place is something that you have left behind...let it be something good.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 13, 2012, 12:46:16 am
Quote from: Lord Shiva
Egotism has no father; the moment one feels superior to others, his relations to humanity begins to deplete.

For those curious, this is an answer Shiva has to Brahma's suggestion that Daksh is his son (Creation) and he'll try to persuade him. This happens at a turning point in the story where King Daksh (and his dangerous pride) is the source of the calamity, waiting to happen like a ticking of a Time Bomb.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 20, 2012, 03:12:26 pm
Satyameva Jayate is probably the most inspiring and enlightening Social Reforms talk show I've every seen (though, of course, I need to confirm most of the details they spout on TV...). Still, these quotes (and many more) just cheered me up.

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Amir: The boy's side of the family... they were screaming and yelling aloud, demanding for a car and several lakhs of Rupees?
Female Guest (Dowry victim): Yes. Beggars apparently always bark, scream and yell.

Quote
I laugh with the morn, and I fight the waves. What is a Rupee going to sell ME?

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I'm from Assam, and I've only read about Dowry in books because this just doesn't happen there. But it's strange... Me, being a fully capable male, asking for money from the very wife I'm marrying, one whom I promised to keep happy for her entire life... I'd rather die than commit such a sin.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 23, 2012, 06:45:06 am
Quote from: Rashika Jain
"If you think positively,
Sound becomes music,
Movement becomes dance,
Smile becomes laughter,
Mind becomes meditation,
And life becomes a celebration."

LET'S CHANGE A BICYCLE INTO A JET-PACK! :D
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 23, 2012, 01:19:20 pm
http://lifehacker.com/5674007/burnout-and-how-to-deal-with-it

Quote
"When I worked for vBulletin helping to build version 3 (and ImpEx) and being involved in bits after that, the product was a reflection of the people involved, the passion, the happiness and camaraderie. The product reflected that at the time, from the quality produced by the tech team all the way over to the responsiveness and unrelenting calmness of the support team, even in the face of some very challenging situations."

This often reminds me of what FaustWolf often tells me. Often the accomplishment of dreams may seem like working in a coal mine with greasy elbows so that the commanders may benefit with all the wealth (and often, that is the case), but truer dreams and satisfactory creation can only be accomplished when you have enough power to at least benefit the happiness of a penny to those who also have similar dreams but are simply waiting for a chance to bloom. You then have nothing to lose, but that mere penny is their chance. 
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 25, 2012, 06:39:18 am
A friend of mine loves sending me quotes and poetry for inspiration (usually pertaining to my own nature and worldview, though); they're so awesome, I plan to share some of them here too.

Quote from: William Arthur Ward
"The adventure of life is to learn. The purpose of life is to grow. The nature of life is to change. The challenge of life is to overcome. The essence of life is to care. The opportunity of life is to serve. The secret of life is to dare. The spice of life is to befriend. The beauty of life is to give. The joy of life is to love."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 14, 2012, 08:05:35 am
Quote from: Dushyant Kumar
“Kaise akash main suraag nahi hosakta? Ek pathar toh tabiyat se uchalo yaaro.”

Quote from: Translation
"How can the sky not have a dent? At least try to throw the stone above with good health!"
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Katie Skyye on June 15, 2012, 01:47:15 am
Wasn't sure whether to put this in Springtime of Youth or...?

(http://i.imgur.com/0zRbC.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 15, 2012, 04:39:14 am
Now THAT is the most badass quote in the whole thread!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 17, 2012, 04:00:37 am
Quote from: Satyamev Jayate
Our Patriarchal culture currently tells us that real men do not cry. But I think that only de-humanizes the men living their life, and hence makes them more of a monster. Meaning, it's not just the women who have something to lose, but also men, who lose crucial sensitivity.

Quote from: Satyamev Jayate
What is the opposite of Patriarchy? If you thought Matriarchy, then you're most likely incorrect. Patriarchy is one extreme, and Matriarchy is another -- so if one is wrong, then so is the other. So, the actual opposite of Patriarchy, that one we ought to obviously follow, is Egalitarianism. We don't want gender superiority here, and we don't want one gender being oppressed (no matter which). We are striving for equality, and I believe that with enough effort we can acquire that.


The last quote is one of the reasons I started the "Social Reforms" thread, and I believe that I was right. Whereas we do our best to curb misogyny, it still makes no sense to overpower one gender over the other, no matter how sentimental we are towards these crimes, because in turn we'll only end up with a counter-intuitive society. We must not forget the original dream we once had -- a free world, where every gender and every race can walk proudly and safely. And happily.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: rushingwind on June 18, 2012, 03:36:21 am
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"You play the hand you're dealt. I think the game's worthwhile."
~C.S. Lewis
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Post by: tushantin on July 17, 2012, 01:25:32 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-88v4kJ-3JHs/UAT9lhA8SUI/AAAAAAAAw6g/OUor_t7gP4I/w497-h373/b8e8o1_1280jpg7.jpg)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_e1tZbO_qOg/UAV337rjhJI/AAAAAAACXjU/LweAxtowGes/w497-h373/lifiscreate.jpg)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: rushingwind on July 18, 2012, 01:13:22 am
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-88v4kJ-3JHs/UAT9lhA8SUI/AAAAAAAAw6g/OUor_t7gP4I/w497-h373/b8e8o1_1280jpg7.jpg)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_e1tZbO_qOg/UAV337rjhJI/AAAAAAACXjU/LweAxtowGes/w497-h373/lifiscreate.jpg)

Love this. It's so true.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on October 03, 2012, 08:54:06 am
If the author creates the character, he creates the world of that book. For example, if ice is hot and fire is cold when the world was created, we could still think that's nautural. The result is a different physical system. If all humans have only one eye, they will see one who has two eyes as a monster. So there's no "poorly" written book in this case, everyone is unique.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 17, 2012, 01:26:10 pm
Just finished reading the novelization (written by Edgar Jepson) of the play "Arsene Lupin", which was initially written by Francis de Croisset. This novelization makes an interesting alternative introduction to the original one "Arsene Lupin, Gentleman Burglar" from the cannon. It also offers an interestingly alternative "ending"! Though it had some weird moments (such as the brilliant Guerchard missing some very obvious deductions which wouldn't take a genius to solve), it did have many thrilling moments of its own, and also was a bomb of quite fascinating dialogues (it was based on the play, after all)! It portrays quite well of Lupin's own professionalism with such power that even the police officers would find themselves crapping bricks when confronting him.

In any case, here's one dialogue I very much loved, taking place at Guerchard's confrontation with Lupin, who promised to steal the coronet by midnight. Guerchard held the gun at Lupin, but the time was running out and Guerchard feared, knowing that the man he faced was capable of anything.

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Arsene Lupin: "As the hand of that clock moves nearer and nearer midnight, you will grow more and more terrified. Your nerves are on edge!"

Detective Guerchard: "Joker!"

Arsene Lupin: "Oh, you're as brave as the next man. But who can stand the anguish of the unknown thing which is bound to happen? ... I'm right. You feel it, you're sure of it. At the end of these few fixed minutes an inevitable, fated event must happen. Don't shrug your shoulders, man; you're green with fear."

Guerchard: "My men are outside ... I'm armed..."

Arsene Lupin: (in a deep, thrilling voice) "Child! Bear in mind ... bear in mind that it is always when you have foreseen everything, arranged everything, made every combination ... bear in mind that it is always then that some accident dashes your whole structure to the ground. Remember that it is always at the very moment at which you are going to triumph that he beats you, that he only lets you reach the top of the ladder to throw you more easily to the ground."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on November 19, 2012, 02:05:52 pm
After my brother showed me that humorous (and sarcastic) article on Sify, I've grown to love the journalist Vinayak Hegde's corner and his satirical style of writing. He's now my favourite journalist, yes indeed!

Quote from: Vinayak Hegde
In India, the space to make a film that reflects our actual social situation is shrinking with an alarming pace. While films about 50-year-old heroes seducing girls twenty years younger than them during the course of making ‘goondas' fly a hundred feet after being punched are super hits.

You can't make a film about terrorists - that offends certain religions. You can't make a film about caste discrimination - that offends the castes that do the discrimination. You can't make a satire about the silliness of certain times or situations - this offends the people who originally did the silly things. And you cannot make a film about any political situation - That will get your film banned (most probably).

Quote from: Vinayak Hegde
India has no shortage of gifted actors, talented directors or risk-taking producers. What it lacks is a rational space for these artists to express themselves or their ideas.

Quote from: Vinayak Hegde
The Congress party did not allow the film Rajneeti to release unless Katrina's character, who was modeled after Sonia Gandhi, was not referred to as the  'widow', but rather as the 'daughter'.  (Like that was gong to fool anyone.)

Quote from: Vinayak Hegde
The simplest idea is to not watch the film if you feel it offends you. Why must we all not watch something because a tiny minority of us apparently lacks the maturity to accept that not everyone is going to accept their point of view?

While many may dismiss this all as mere entertainment, the fact remains that cinema is the best medium to convey ideas or concepts to everyone.

And in India this concept is a hollow shell.

Quote from: Vinayak Hegde
Toilet humour about homosexuals and cross-dressing has replaced subtle observations. And you can forget about political commentaries, social observations or even wry off-hand comments.

Thanks to this intolerance, what we mostly end up with is a pre-sanitized, pre-packed mulch that is intended to appeal to as low a common denominator as possible.

Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on January 15, 2013, 09:24:31 am
Vanity post time!

I'm certainly not the best writer around here, but when I write something amusing it sticks to my mind like glue, putting me in a euphoria immediately. Anywho, here's a quote form my Dream Splash entry "Origins of Flea":

Quote from: Falco de Faye
"Ouch! All the more reason for this wretched Empire to crumble, unless we do something about this. Let's go; we need to inform that clumsy Knight Captain of our search, before he trips onto a pebble."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on February 25, 2013, 05:48:04 am
Quote from: David Wong
So when I say "We're all in this together," I'm not stating a philosophy. I'm stating a fact about the way human life works. No, you never asked for anything to be handed to you. You didn't have to, because billions of humans who lived and died before you had already created a lavish support system where the streets are all but paved with gold. Everyone reading this -- all of us living in a society advanced enough to have Internet access -- was born one inch away from the finish line, plopped here at birth, by other people.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on April 30, 2013, 05:03:41 am
Sometimes children, in their simplicity, make the most compelling arguments.  They have a way of cutting through all the crap to get to the core issue.

This deserves to be quoted.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lennis on June 07, 2013, 03:44:02 pm
Quote
"Writing fiction is ... an endless and always defeated effort to capture some quality of life without killing it." - Rose Wilder Lane
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Thought on June 12, 2013, 12:38:34 pm
Quote from: Howard Taylor
"I think it was Patrick Rothfuss who [described getting mean spirited reader comments] ... as a turd in his bowl of oatmeal, as I recall. You can't eat the oatmeal around the turd."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on June 14, 2013, 05:23:47 am
"Nothing is exactly as it seems, nor is it otherwise." ~ Alan Watts

"From the pine-trees, learn of the pine-trees. And from the bamboos, learn of the bamboo." ~ Some Zen saying

"Ride your horse along the edge of the sword
Hide yourself in the middle of the flames
Blossoms of the fruit tree will bloom in the fire
The sun rises in the evening."

    ~ Zen Koan

"Throw a resourceful person into a river, and he will probably come out with a fish in his hand."
~ An Arabian Quote

"Yesterday is ashes; tomorrow is wood. Only today does the fire burn brightly." ~ Eskimo proverb

"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones." ~ Chinese Proverb

"If you want happiness for an hour -- take a nap. If you want happiness for a day -- go fishing. If you want happiness for a month -- get married. If you want happiness for a year -- inherit a fortune. If you want happiness for a lifetime -- help someone else." ~ Chinese Proverb

"When eating bamboo sprouts, remember the man who planted them." ~ Chinese Proverb

"Renew thyself completely each day; do it again, and again, and forever again." ~ Chinese Proverb

"The most beautiful things in the universe are the starry heavens above us and the feeling of duty within us." ~ Indian proverb
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on July 05, 2013, 02:03:25 pm
"THE STANDARD YOU WALK PAST IS THE STANDARD YOU ACCEPT." -Australia's Lt. General David Morrison
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Sajainta on July 07, 2013, 06:02:10 am
Quote from: Mark Twain
When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: idioticidioms on July 07, 2013, 01:18:37 pm
“People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bullshit. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain.”

~Jim Morrison
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: ZeaLitY on July 18, 2013, 11:17:55 am
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"What do you think," said he, "of all things in the world would give me the greatest pleasure?" I was on the point of replying, removal from St. Helena, when he said, "To be able to go about incognito in London and other parts of England, to the restaurateurs, with a friend, to dine in public at the expense of half a guinea or a guinea, and listen to the conversation of the company; to go through them all, changing almost daily, and in this manner, with my own ears, to hear the people express their sentiments, in their unguarded moments, freely and without restraint; to hear their real opinion of myself, and of the surprising occurrences of the last twenty years." I observed, that he would hear much evil and much good of himself. "Oh, as to the evil," replied he, "I care not about that. I am well used to it. Besides, I know that the public opinion will be changed. The nation will be just as much disgusted at the libels published against me, as they formerly were greedy in reading and believing them. This," added he, "and the education of my son, would form my greatest pleasure. It was my intention to have done this, had I reached America. The happiest days of my life were from sixteen to twenty, during the semestres, when I used to go about, as I have told you I should wish to do, from one restaurateur to another, living moderately, and having a lodging for which I paid three louis a month. They were the happiest days of my life. I was always so much occupied, that I may say I never was truly happy upon the throne."

Napoleon. My love of Scotland, and now love of the French Revolution and Napoleon has made me quite the anglophobe. It pains me how even in my own education, Napoleon was still presented as villain, when in fact the entire whole of the western world was constantly fighting him out of fear of the dissolution of monarchies. The French challenged the order of kings and oppression, and because of that, every major power in Europe sought to squelch them. I would dare say the Napoleonic Wars were a defense of France and the ideals of the revolution; even Napoleon's annexations were basically justified as a response to the constant attacks on France.

I just wish he had gone ahead and dethroned the Pope when he had the chance. That, and I wish the Cult of Reason had survived. Alas.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Kodokami on July 24, 2013, 02:51:00 pm
Quote from: http://beyondeasy.blogspot.com/
...if I look at a piece and don't see a whale, and if I examine myself and don't see Ahab, then the project can only be puttering along.

I'm taking this out of context, from a blog I read, but this really stood out to me.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on July 25, 2013, 11:53:04 pm
Napoleon. My love of Scotland, and now love of the French Revolution and Napoleon has made me quite the anglophobe. It pains me how even in my own education, Napoleon was still presented as villain, when in fact the entire whole of the western world was constantly fighting him out of fear of the dissolution of monarchies. The French challenged the order of kings and oppression, and because of that, every major power in Europe sought to squelch them.
Interestingly, when reading The Human Comedy, by Honore de Balzac, the character Vautrin implies something incredibly similar. In fact, this is exactly the reason behind why he took the life of crime -- because "to revolt" against an oppressive government / monarchy / wealthy and powerful authority is still crime nonetheless. (And he referenced Napoleon for the same reasons quite a lot)

Then again, it goes to show that when you challenge the most powerful forces in the world, the stakes are likely to be higher and majority of odds stacked against you (making it incredibly difficult to succeed without help; look what happened to Edward Snowden). Fearing this, people would choose the other option and simply conform, at the expense of the misery of countless others and essentially making the authority even more powerful.

Me? I create a Third Option. I'm not good at going head-on with my soft-skull, nor do I like the prospects of cowering and giving up.  :wink:
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on October 01, 2013, 06:12:59 am
Let me put this here.

Quote from: Faust, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and Bayard Taylor
“You can’t, if you can’t feel it, if it never
Rises from the soul, and sways
The heart of every single hearer,
With deepest power, in simple ways.
You’ll sit forever, gluing things together,
Cooking up a stew from other’s scraps,
Blowing on a miserable fire,
Made from your heap of dying ash.
Let apes and children praise your art,
If their admiration’s to your taste,
But you’ll never speak from heart to heart,
Unless it rises up from your heart’s space.”
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Manly Man on October 03, 2013, 12:08:29 am
"Pride is all very well, but a sausage is a sausage."

-Gaspode, from Men At Arms, by Terry Pratchett
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Radical_Dreamer on November 07, 2013, 12:58:19 pm
Quote from: http://beyondeasy.blogspot.com/
...if I look at a piece and don't see a whale, and if I examine myself and don't see Ahab, then the project can only be puttering along.

I'm taking this out of context, from a blog I read, but this really stood out to me.

That sort of passion is incredible in a personal project, but crippling as an external expectation for a professional project.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on December 27, 2013, 01:00:46 pm
I've recently been hooked on to Night Vale podcast, and NOW I CAN'T STOP!

Quote from: Cecil Palmer
"Listeners... Listeners out there in the night, clinging to my voice as the simulacrum of companionship... remember: Fear is consciousness, plus life. Regret is an attempt to avoid what has already happened. Toast... is bread held under direct heat until crisp."
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 07, 2018, 05:20:38 am
Quote from: Leonard Bernstein
And so Beethoven came to the end of this long symphonic journey—at least for one movement. Imagine a lifetime of this struggle: movement after movement, symphony after symphony, quartet after concerto after sonata, always probing and rejecting and this constant dedication to perfection, to the principle of inevitability. Somehow this is the key, the only key we can have, to the mystery of a great artist…that, for reasons unknown to him, or to anybody else for that matter, he will give away his life and energies just to make sure that one note follows another with complete inevitability. Seems rather an odd way to spend one’s life, but it isn’t so odd when we think that the composer by doing this leaves us at the finish with the feeling that something is right in the world, that checks throughout…something that follows its own law consistently. Something we can trust, that will never let us down.

And:

Quote from: Alex Steacy
Out there are people who want to hear a story that you are uniquely prepared to tell. Another story, even if it’s better, won’t do.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 07, 2018, 05:11:38 pm
Quote
あなたを愛しております
生涯かけて、 
あなた様だけを愛しております
今、あなたのもとへ参ります
...
二人がもう一度契る場所

- Juri Nakashima

My Japanese is really rough (but improving) and it translates something along the lines of:

Quote
I love you.
Througout my lifetime,
I will love only you.
Now, I will come to meet you.
...
In the place two people will meet again.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: chrono.source on May 22, 2018, 12:06:07 pm
Simply one word:

"Zugzwang"


It applies to many tough situations in life.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 22, 2018, 01:55:10 pm
Nice! I recognize that word from German class!

chrono.source, bist du Deutscher?

You may not be German, as I know it's a word that has sort of slipped into English vernacular (and likely other languages as well). Just curious! FaustWolf and I are both Americans but know some (rusty) rudimentary German and would sometimes slip into it back in the day. There are likely others around here.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: chrono.source on May 23, 2018, 10:24:31 am
Ironically I am half German, but with no dialect ingrained in me. My father lost it after simply not speaking it after moving out from my grandparents' house.

I actually learned that word from a movie called Mr. Nobody. Really bizarre but intriguing. Most "out-there" movies really appeal to me. "The Jacket" being another bizarre movie, but by far my favourite of all time. Definitely worth a watch.

I really do wish I learned German (or any language for that matter)
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: tushantin on May 23, 2018, 10:47:33 am
Ironically I am half German, but with no dialect ingrained in me. My father lost it after simply not speaking it after moving out from my grandparents' house.

I really do wish I learned German (or any language for that matter)

Learn it! There's nothing better than learning your heritage and where you came from.

I actually learned that word from a movie called Mr. Nobody. Really bizarre but intriguing. Most "out-there" movies really appeal to me. "The Jacket" being another bizarre movie, but by far my favourite of all time. Definitely worth a watch.

You seem like a fan of bizarre stories. Let me recommend to you another bizarre adventure:

Quote from: Speedwagon, from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Jonathan! This one's mad as a hatter! Dio's evil yet, but I never see him come out of an animal!

Quote from: Jojo, from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Well, my arms are folded and my eyes are closed, this is a victory laugh. You lost today because you snoozed for 2000 years.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: chrono.source on May 23, 2018, 12:00:11 pm
Based on a quick wikipedia search it looks rather promising. I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 23, 2018, 05:15:03 pm
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Ironically I am half German, but with no dialect ingrained in me. My father lost it after simply not speaking it after moving out from my grandparents' house.

Understandable. It's a fun language, but I'm really rusty these days. I've also started learning Japanese as a hobby, and I think it's pushed out some of my German language skills, hahaha... Never to late to learn with Duolingo or another app! 10 minutes a day can have you at least picking up some skills.

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"The Jacket" being another bizarre movie, but by far my favourite of all time. Definitely worth a watch.

ME TOO. It's such a great, criminally underrated film. Especially given the star power of Adrian Brody and Kiera Knightly both held in the late 2000's.

I actually spent YEARS trying to find the ambient music-boxy song that reoccurs throughout the film; it's a Roger Eno tune (brother to Brian Eno) and there are dozens of half-asses recordings from the film, but no official versions. It doesn't help that the film was so under the radar that no real soundtrack exists.

I did eventually find a clean version, though, and it will have to suffice.

But yeah, it's a great time travel film that I really wish carried more clout in the film community.
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: V_Translanka on October 04, 2021, 05:48:18 am
The Jacket & Domino are two of my fav Kiera Knightly movies. I believe she has topless scenes in both, not that they're amazing or anything, just a random fact floating in the noggin...😅
Title: Re: Quote Digest
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on October 04, 2021, 09:45:15 am
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The Jacket & Domino are two of my fav Kiera Knightly movies.

One of the things I really liked about The Jacket was how it didn't necessarily offer answers to some of it's questions. Nowadays films like to spell everything out and use dialog to exposition everything to ensure the audience 'gets it.'

I'll just leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd4xrjAZBGA