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Title: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on December 19, 2018, 04:55:25 am
Just curious, I know some people here may be bigger fans of Trigger than Cross, some may like Radical Dreamers a lot. A friend of mine replayed Chrono Trigger maybe 8 times over a decade and just recently beat it for the first time. So how much have you played? How far did ya get? (if this has been done, please pull it)
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: CptOvaltine on December 19, 2018, 05:06:34 am
I would be willing to bet most of us have played it to death! I've played through it from start to finish countless times.  I didn't get every ending until the DS remake...mostly because as a 5 year old kid I couldn't figure out how to get more then two endings. haha
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on December 19, 2018, 03:19:07 pm
Yeah, I've played the game to death. I've played it so much that I now struggle to get through subsequent playthroughs. I get sort of... bored... just to be honest.

I wish I could go back in time to the first time I played, though. I would spend so much time just walking around, and I would take the time to LOOK and EXPLORE every single screen. I would go into a house and literally walk up to every item and press A, would talk to every person several times to see if I could get new dialogue, and I would even stop and just let my eyes take it all in.

I remember the first time I got to the End of Time I spent probably a good 10 minutes just oogling at it. That's saying something, because there's not much at the End of Time. I should also add this was before I even bothered venturing into Spekkio's Room.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: CptOvaltine on December 19, 2018, 03:55:58 pm
Yeah, I've played the game to death. I've played it so much that I now struggle to get through subsequent playthroughs. I get sort of... bored... just to be honest.

I wish I could go back in time to the first time I played, though. I would spend so much time just walking around, and I would take the time to LOOK and EXPLORE every single screen. I would go into a house and literally walk up to every item and press A, would talk to every person several times to see if I could get new dialogue, and I would even stop and just let my eyes take it all in.

I remember the first time I got to the End of Time I spent probably a good 10 minutes just oogling at it. That's saying something, because there's not much at the End of Time. I should also add this was before I even bothered venturing into Spekkio's Room.

Same here!  It's pretty hard for me to get through these days.  I have the same problem with FFVI, and a couple other old favorites.  I'm getting there with Cross, too. Though I had only played Cross once when it came out.  It was a friends game that I borrowed, so I didn't really have the opportunity to play it again until college. I've played it about once per year ever since, up until last year. 

I used to have one of those old boom boxes that you could record your own cassette tapes with.  I would sit at the end of time and talk to each character to trigger their themes, then I would record them on the tapes so that I could listen to them whenever I wanted. I'm pretty sure I've got a 30 min loop of Frogs song somewhere. haha
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Mauron on December 19, 2018, 04:16:27 pm
I've done everything once... except Pink Nu Spekkio.

I have fought Frog Spekkio though.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Razig on December 19, 2018, 05:20:02 pm
I've played it all the way through countless times. I try to do at least a couple of playthroughs a year; a quick one with New Game +, and a slower one with New Game.

Yeah, I've played the game to death. I've played it so much that I now struggle to get through subsequent playthroughs. I get sort of... bored... just to be honest.

I wish I could go back in time to the first time I played, though. I would spend so much time just walking around, and I would take the time to LOOK and EXPLORE every single screen. I would go into a house and literally walk up to every item and press A, would talk to every person several times to see if I could get new dialogue, and I would even stop and just let my eyes take it all in.

I remember the first time I got to the End of Time I spent probably a good 10 minutes just oogling at it. That's saying something, because there's not much at the End of Time. I should also add this was before I even bothered venturing into Spekkio's Room.

I don't get bored with the game, but I know what you mean about recapturing the magic. That's why I like to watch people experience it for the first time, particularly real-life friends so I can see their faces light up in person. I love to hear their reactions to events and their speculations about where the story is going, and to see how they approach each situation. Through it all I stay quiet and let them make their own discoveries and mistakes.

Everyone so far has loved the game, and their enthusiasm lets me vicariously relive my first playthrough.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on January 02, 2019, 02:36:27 am
What's Pink Nu? I've only played the original version of the game, didn't see that part.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Acacia Sgt on January 02, 2019, 02:59:24 am
What's Pink Nu? I've only played the original version of the game, didn't see that part.

Spekkio's final form. You need to be at max level for that one.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on February 19, 2019, 04:07:34 am
When I play it, there's that part where you can't find Melchoir. I get lost there. Every time, like an alzheimer's patient, its like a mental block. Even now I don't remember what to do after that. So it'll be fun for me next time I play it :)
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on February 19, 2019, 09:27:26 am
I have never done a lvl 99 playthrough. I always say I'm doing to NG+ a few times to get there, but then I end up wanting a challenge so I start over with a level 1 new game. :/
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: CptOvaltine on February 19, 2019, 02:24:50 pm
I have never done a lvl 99 playthrough. I always say I'm doing to NG+ a few times to get there, but then I end up wanting a challenge so I start over with a level 1 new game. :/

Come to think of it...I've never gotten to lvl 99 either... Weird!  I think the highest I've ever gotten was upper 70s, lower 80s.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: trig on February 19, 2019, 05:50:28 pm
Wow, I've never truly played the whole thing--I've never played all the games at the Fair! Time for another run. And I'll make a checklist for all the endings.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: xcalibur on February 24, 2019, 11:30:58 pm
of course I've thoroughly played through CT.

grinding up to level ** is tedious, so I'd recommend using PAR codes (Pro Action Replay) if you want to fight Nu Spekkio. just be aware, if you get a massive amount of experience/level-ups through PAR, the game might lag for awhile, so you just have to wait it out.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on February 25, 2019, 09:54:31 am
Interestingly enough, I found the Developer Room quite by accident. I had no idea there were multiple endings (first playthrough I rescued Crono, recruited Magus, and destroyed the Epoch so that Crono's mom chased the cats into the Millennial Fair gate), and I was doing my first NG+.

I went to the Ocean Palace and remembered that I was supposed to lose... but decided to see what happens if I didn't. So I gave it my all and...

...discovered the Developer's Room.

Suffice to say, I was devastated by the one gag in which the guy says something along the lines of "want to see a screenshot of Chrono Trigger 2? ... Yeah, that'd be nice!" I was seriously heartbroken. My eleven or twelve year old mind was quite saddened by that joke, as I was wishing for a sequel already.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on February 25, 2019, 11:57:54 am
Had I played chrono trigger when it came out, that woulda hurt me too. because for years i would have thought, at the time with few people on the net, that they had started work on a chrono trigger 2. like when they announced Season 3 of the Chappelle's show and we got a fragment, its been 15 years and im still waiting haha.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on February 26, 2019, 06:54:58 pm
Yeah, this was back in like 1996 or probably more like 1997.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: chrono.source on March 12, 2019, 09:02:59 am
I've done everything once... except Pink Nu Spekkio.

I have fought Frog Spekkio though.




This. Pink Spekkio is brutal. (Although mine is in reference to the SNES version, not any additional content: ie DS version)
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Razig on March 13, 2019, 02:34:35 pm
I've done everything once... except Pink Nu Spekkio.

I have fought Frog Spekkio though.




This. Pink Spekkio is brutal. (Although mine is in reference to the SNES version, not any additional content: ie DS version)

One of the new items in the DS version is an armor for Lucca that nullifies all elemental damage. Spekkio's Halation can drop her to 1 HP, but he can never finish the job due to her immunity to magic.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Kodokami on March 14, 2019, 09:47:05 pm
One of the new items in the DS version is an armor for Lucca that nullifies all elemental damage. Spekkio's Halation can drop her to 1 HP, but he can never finish the job due to her immunity to magic.

Seriously? Wow, I never knew this.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on March 15, 2019, 02:47:01 am
Sorta cheapens it doesn't it, this is why I prefer the original game
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Razig on March 16, 2019, 11:53:34 pm
One of the new items in the DS version is an armor for Lucca that nullifies all elemental damage. Spekkio's Halation can drop her to 1 HP, but he can never finish the job due to her immunity to magic.

Seriously? Wow, I never knew this.

You have to get a Lumicite Shard by either killing or charming a Wonder Rock (https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Wonder_Rock.html) and take it to the smith in the 600 AD Lost Sanctum. The Wonder Rock is a rare spawn on the second screen of 600 AD Mt. Emerald and on the second screen of the "Singing Mountain" portion of the 12,000 BC Dimensional Vortex. (The linked page also lists it as being in 600 AD Millennia Wood, but I can't confirm as I've never seen it there.) It's pretty hard to kill if you're not yet at the level where Luminaire and Flare nuke everything, since the rock is fast, highly resistant to damage, and can run away. So if you're lucky enough to see one I definitely recommend equipping Ayla with the Charm Top and putting her and Marle in your party before you engage it. Even then I've had it escape on its first turn before I could Twin Charm it.

Sorta cheapens it doesn't it, this is why I prefer the original game

It's certainly an overpowered piece of equipment. The new content isn't as good as the original content, but I can't complain too much since it gives us new things to do in the Chrono world. Of course, those new things are only of interest if you've already done all the old things, so I always recommend that people play the original first to get the "true" experience, and then play the DS version for the bonus stuff.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: chrono.source on March 19, 2019, 11:45:04 am
Has there been anyone that has gotten some info from anyone in the Dream Team as to what was actually laid out for a possible CT2? (even if scribbled on a bar napkin or something)
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on March 19, 2019, 01:31:38 pm
I didn't know there was any, other than "i'd be down for it." just the reference in the developers room at the end with the robot asking if they wanted to see one.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Pictou on March 20, 2019, 03:53:33 am
After I beat Lavos traditionally for the first time, I invited my friend over that weekend and we tried to get to the Developer's Room. That's why getting there was particularly memorable for me; we spent all afternoon trying to beat Lavos with just Crono in the party.

We traded the controller around for his different phases and actually managed to beat him that night, it was really satisfying.
All the text in there was really memorable and tongue-in-cheek, it's one of my favorite easter eggs in the game.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on March 20, 2019, 04:27:55 am
< This is how it's done. Awesome job dude.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on March 26, 2019, 06:15:03 pm
I've been at Lavos for quite some time. I recently made a new save since I missed a bunch of loot, however. I'm at Lavos again, doing pre-final boss cleanup.

Edit: When I got to Lavos for the first time, I was a (rather stupid) little kiddywink.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Toreadore on March 26, 2019, 07:21:03 pm
tbh, I made this game my bitch within the first three months I got it. Must have beaten it close to 100 times (surprise, I had no life as a kid).

Okay, so I did require the assistance of the internet to get the slideshow ending and the ending where Magus says one of his most badass quotes. But other than that, I must have explored every corner in every era (as much as possible), tried every party combination, and made sure to walk both paths wherever a fork in the road occurred.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on March 26, 2019, 07:29:15 pm
You are a greater man than I.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on March 27, 2019, 05:05:53 pm
Just beat Lavos and started New Game+
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 28, 2019, 09:17:37 am
Congrats on beating Lavos! Go get them endings!
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on March 28, 2019, 10:29:10 am
Thanks! I'm planning on doing that. Love Chrono Trigger.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 29, 2019, 09:45:05 am
What version are you playing (SNES, DS, PS1)?
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on March 29, 2019, 10:01:57 am
DS version.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on March 29, 2019, 02:32:44 pm
Chrono Trigger was out on Playstation?
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on March 29, 2019, 03:05:27 pm
Yeah. I've heard it was really bad, though.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Acacia Sgt on March 29, 2019, 03:07:36 pm
Mostly the loading times, I believe. An issue that was more about the way discs store and read data.

Unless there's someting else I'm missing on. Admitedly, the PSX version is the one I'm least familiar with.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on March 29, 2019, 03:15:34 pm
I owned the PSX version as part of Final Fantasy Chronicles.

I believe the only changes were the addition of the animated cutscenes and the music library.

The only negative was the loadtimes, especially when it comes to battles.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on March 29, 2019, 03:34:50 pm
Load times? I'm surprised, this game was only like 4 Megs, FF7 was over 3 discs close to 800 Megs, and was 64 bit, Chrono Trigger couldnt load faster on a superior (technically) console?
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: trig on March 29, 2019, 04:57:12 pm
The port was poorly done. A bunch of disc reading was performed before and after each battle, so there's a 6-8 second pause where the characters and monsters just shoot the s***.

video example, yyoutu.be/ot6nEq75mr0 (http://youtu.be/ot6nEq75mr0)
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Acacia Sgt on March 29, 2019, 06:16:39 pm
Load times? I'm surprised, this game was only like 4 Megs, FF7 was over 3 discs close to 800 Megs, and was 64 bit, Chrono Trigger couldnt load faster on a superior (technically) console?

This has been explained before. Discs and cartridges have different ways to store and read data. Due to the way the data can be stored on the disc, the amount of times it needs to spin for the disc reader to read any given string of data in its correct order means it can take more time.

Also, CT for PSX is like 290 MB's (assuming nothing much was added to its PSN version to increase its size), not 4.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on March 29, 2019, 09:23:06 pm
That seems odd, those anime videos must be uncompressed avi files, hehe.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Acacia Sgt on March 29, 2019, 09:51:49 pm
That seems odd, those anime videos must be uncompressed avi files, hehe.

It isn't just the anime cutscenes. The extras stuff like the bestiary, item artwork, tech library, etc. Were also in the PSX version.

Even if not, the game was bound to get bigger. You don't just port the files and expect the Playstationn to run them as-is. There were likely modified, or stuff added to them, so they could run in the PSX. I wouldn't be surprised if at least over half of those 290 MB's are the stuff necessary so it could run on the PSX. Then again, I'm not that an expert on porting from Console A to Console B, but it's certain the game was never going to be 4MB's on the PSX.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on March 29, 2019, 11:16:59 pm
Is tehre like an operating system's worth of coding? My PC's emulator program is about 1Mb, Chrono Trigger is 4Mb on here, i've played the whole thing. Crimson Echoes was like 7Mb, all working. What are they doing in there? Is it 300Mb of anti-piracy coding or something? Square put in a video on why cease and desist letters are appropriate?
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Mauron on March 30, 2019, 02:57:17 am
I checked my ripped copy of CT PSX, it's 522 MB. The bulk of it is movies. They also have larger versions of the music and sounds, presumably better quality. There's also a copy of the JP ROM that's used for looking up some data.

Chrono Trigger's data is less than 4 MB, but the chip its on is 4MB, so garbage data is included in that 4MB. Some is at the end, some is in the middle.

...Ok, why is MONSTER.DAT 23 MB? I think I'll poke around that one a little tomorrow.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Vehek on March 30, 2019, 04:57:29 am
I can't find the post, but I think Gemini once explained some of the inefficiencies of the PS version, like it pointlessly decompressing all the NPC graphics when the menu is opened.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on March 30, 2019, 11:37:46 am
We should probably start a separate thread for this.
Seriously sounds bad though.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: alfadorredux on March 31, 2019, 08:54:03 am
There'd be additional blank space for CD sector alignment, too, I'd bet (and depending on the format of the CD, possibly error detection and correction).
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on April 13, 2019, 08:00:57 pm
I just got the Crono-free ending and the Dev Room ending  :kz
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on April 13, 2019, 10:45:06 pm
Woo! So who was it for you? the Dodgers or...
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: chrono.source on April 16, 2019, 10:16:08 am
I just got the Crono-free ending and the Dev Room ending  :kz

Who'd you choose for your final three in the chrono-free?
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on April 16, 2019, 10:48:23 am
I just got the Crono-free ending and the Dev Room ending  :kz

Who'd you choose for your final three in the chrono-free?
Magus, Frog, and Lucca.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on April 16, 2019, 11:16:19 am
I'm doing the Dimensional Vortexes now.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on April 17, 2019, 09:55:39 am
I just beat the Dream Devourer!
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Redline57 on April 17, 2019, 01:36:43 pm
His name is Lavos, Dream devourer was Crimson Echoes and Chrono Cross
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Acacia Sgt on April 17, 2019, 01:48:10 pm
That's Time Devourer. Dream Devourer is its name in Chrono Trigger.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on April 17, 2019, 02:15:48 pm
'Twas surprisingly easy.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on April 17, 2019, 02:19:55 pm
That's Time Devourer. Dream Devourer is its name in Chrono Trigger.
Thanks again, Acacia.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: Acacia Sgt on April 17, 2019, 02:56:54 pm
Thanks again, Acacia.

Eh, no, that was for Redline57.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: To4oo4 on April 17, 2019, 03:24:09 pm
I meant thanks for resolving it.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: chrono.source on April 18, 2019, 10:31:38 am
His name is Lavos, Dream devourer was Crimson Echoes and Chrono Cross

Dream Devourer was in the DS version added content.
Title: Re: How far did you get in Chrono Trigger?
Post by: EgyLynx on April 24, 2019, 12:02:49 pm
Well... i growth at my monster at L and get these THINKS at all ...
but... easiest wasy ( which take on time is STILL lv1 and hp about 2500)
SAVE before every match if cam lost or boss fight without ne of these six... (yeah these ix thinks can get EVERY level, sorry)

L3, fight Magus, get magus... and so on...
Well... i have L99 at vs Lavos, and new game+ L99 and that road at l99 so...