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Termina Esplanade - Special Events and Feedback => Dream Splash Contests => Dream Splash VI - Dream of Zeal [2018] => Topic started by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 06, 2018, 09:20:58 am

Title: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 06, 2018, 09:20:58 am
Hey all,

So I had originally thrown out a potential theme of "the Dream of Zeal" with a focus on not just the Zeal Kingdom itself (although it is iconic), as well as some Masa/Mune/Doreen dream creatures (to act as a sort of quasi-realization of those dreams).

Here was my logic:

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-The Dream of Zeal theme I've envisioned isn't about the Kingdom of Zeal, despite the name.
-The Dream of Zeal isn't bound to just the locational / literal Kingdom; it's ultimately about creating new life, eternal life, and ultimately that means legacy.
-This mirrors the Chrono Compendium in that we are still carrying the torch for a 22-year old game. And let's be honest, it's one largely ignored by its IP owner. The fact that there are still active Chrono fans meeting together here is worth celebrating in and of itself.
-So imagine and interpret that Dream of Zeal in anyway you'd like -- it may be in the Kindgom's fall (and a fictional revival), the creation of life by Melchior or the golems by Dalton, the manifestation of dreams in the forms of Masa, Mune, and Doreen (and their penultimate Masamune/Mastermune forms). The sky is the limit. You can interpret that dream however you see fit, in whatever medium you wish to pursue.

Pros:
-Zeal is arguably one of the most iconic and popular locations/plots in the entire game, so by choosing this idea, it may make for a small uptick in activity and participation.
-In addition, the underlying theme of "keeping the dream alive" is a wide open canvas for interpretation.
-Finally give the dream creatures some time to shine. I'd love to see some Masa/Mune/Doreen love!

Cons:
-The Kingdom of Zeal (as a location) was a theme for Dream Splash I eleven years ago. We don't need to repeat the past.
-The Kingdom of Zeal often gets overdone due to it's popularity.

That all being said, this was just an initial interpretation and not set in stone. I am open to new ideas and hearing other potential themes. Sound off here if you have an idea or feel this is a proper course. If necessary, once we gather a few concepts, I can create a poll for formal voting.

Thanks!

Edit: Spelling and formatting.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: skylark on April 06, 2018, 01:06:21 pm
I think this is the perfect theme, exactly for the reasons you described.

And another thing to consider is that even if by some bad twist of fate that this might be the last Dream Splash for another long while, it makes sense to bring it all full-circle.

That's just my thoughts though.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Kodokami on April 06, 2018, 02:24:08 pm
I agree. Keeping the theme more open-ended will be more helpful in recruiting artists and fans who want to support with something, anything, to one of their favorite series rather than being limited in how to lend their support. And "keeping the dream alive" is pretty symbolic itself.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 06, 2018, 04:09:36 pm
I also like this idea. Definitely gives areas to explore too, in my opinion.

Now to start brainstorming! :D
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 06, 2018, 04:22:57 pm
I can go with whatever theme is proposed, but the Dream of Zeal sounds nice.

Edit: If Boo makes good on his threat to include a Temporal Flux plugin submission category, I'll do that + a demo set in Zeal.

Otherwise I've got a simple hack idea I can make.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 07, 2018, 05:15:40 pm
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Edit: If Boo makes good on his threat to include a Temporal Flux plugin submission category, I'll do that + a demo set in Zeal.

You *know* I can't pass up on that threat now. Consider a Temporal Flux category set in stone.
If you need any help, let me know. I can whip some sprites together or write something up. Just let me know.

As for the Dream Splash VI timing, I'm thinking starting it in June to coincide with the end of spring and into summer.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 07, 2018, 05:25:04 pm
The bulk of what I need to do will be in the R&D category. Existing assets should cover the demo of the tool.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 08, 2018, 02:16:09 pm
Well just don't over-exert yourself. Something really small is better than nothing at all.

:D
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 08, 2018, 03:43:56 pm
I think my idea is doable. I'll reevaluate as necessary.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Lord J Esq on April 09, 2018, 04:09:07 am
Like I said in the other thread, count me in.

What's the timescale? Do we have a month? Till summer? All year? I don't think I've ever participated in a Dream Splash before. Is there an official rules somewhere? =P
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 09, 2018, 09:04:20 am
So I was thinking starting mid or late May so we can give people time to go ahead and start working on things. I should have it hammered out within a few days. It will last about a month or so and I plan on going to reddit to allow entries as well.

As for the rules, I tried to find them for previous Dream Splashes, but couldn't ever find any. I did find Spring's Gift, which was sort of like a Dream Splash, with rules from:

I'm open to hearing what others think...

First off, I was thinking about the following categories:

2D Art (digital or otherwise)
3D or Moving Art (ie, videos, etc.)
Musiccal Art
Hack/Coding/Technical Art
Writing Art

Something along those lines.

In the past, I thinks some Dream Splashes had judges while others had no voting at all. For this, I am wondering if popular vote would be acceptable. Even if we are allowing outside entries via Reddit or other channels, I am *hoping* we'd be above voting manipulation, especially without any sort of monetary award on the line. First and foremost this is a celebration moreso a competition.

Worst case, I can try to get like three judges and they can rate on scales of 1 to 10 for Creativity, Originality, Presentation, Uniqueness, Completion (yes, a completed piece carries extra weight -- we all know how bad we are about finishing fan projects, hacks or otherwise), blah blah blah... That sort of thing.

The awards would be:

1.) Bragging rights
2.) An optional custom tag for your profile here on the Compendium (speaking of, we gave our Guru statuses -- we may also want to choose new Gurus in the near future)
3.) A digital trophy (and I've already started working on this and leaving details slightly vague)

https://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=8476.0

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Without knowing how the judges will be viewing the works, the artists are pretty much shooting in the dark at this point. It'd be better to release a few details about how each judge will be viewing the works (i.e. screen size, platform -- gamma on Mac and Windows are different -- and image viewing software or web browser), so that the artist can fully realize the context in which it will be experienced.

For example, if you're creating something for an art gallery exhibit in a narrow hall as part of a competition, you wouldn't make a painting that requires the viewer to step back 20 feet. Also, many artistic works are meant to be experienced in a certain environment, like a fountain statue in a garden. It's only fair to the artist if we let them know in advance that, regardless of how they make the image, it will be rated solely as it looks on the judge's screen.

We should also limit entries to digital images, so that a photo of a plush doll is a photo of a plush doll, and won't be judged by the quality of the plush doll (which would be unfair to the plush doll, since such a thing is meant to be held and felt). It's either that, or actually set up some way to send physical entries to the judges.

Furthermore, all entries should be kept completely anonymous from the judges. No entry should have any identifying marks or data on the image or in the meta-data. This makes it difficult to create to create a context based on who created the work, but it's necessary to prevent personal bias from interfering with the contest.

So some things every artist should consider when making their entry:

1.  It will be judged as seen on a computer screen.

The exact size and type of screens used will be released at a later time. Images that are too big to be viewed on the screen will not be resized.

2.  The work will be judged in isolation of the artist's identity, by judges of varying levels of familiarity with the Chrono series.

This means you can assume some common background knowledge of the Chrono series and use it in your works. I can't say the same for any subculture or slang references, since some of the judges may not be from the same country, or might not be familiar the online gaming culture. In other words, "O Rly?" or "pwned!" might not make sense to some of the judges. The same goes for SNL references.

3.  While technique is important, the perceived "difficulty" or "effort" of an angle, pose, or technique will not be a basis for judging any of the works.

This is an easy one to understand. If you try something challenging just because it's hard, but it doesn't make the work any more interesting or appealing (or you flat out failed with it), then all it shows is bad taste in entering it as an example of "your best" work. This isn't kindergarten, so we won't feel bad for you and give you points for trying harder. If you want to try something, find a feeling, theme, or story and try communicating it with your character's poses, the angle of the scene, the lighting, the colors, and the characteristics of the techniques you decide to use... That's much more important than trying a "hard to draw" pose.

After all, you wouldn't expect a master croissant chef, if given the opportunity to cook whatever he wants for a contest, to compete by making some new type of pie he's still trying to master.

While you should always push yourself as an artist, remember that you should also be mindful of what you show the world, and what you do for practice or experiment. A good photographer will often take thousands of photos only to end up showing people a few dozen.

So try a few things first (brainstorm -- draw lots of thumbnails and rough drafts, look at some references, experiment), use the techniques you've already mastered (even if they're still few in number) in place of the ones you're still learning to do your best work, hide it for a week, fix it, and then enter.

Anyway, good luck to the artists who want to enter. I'll try to find some good judges.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Kodokami on April 10, 2018, 03:49:25 pm
Custom tags would be easy to implement. I'm sure we've done that in the past for previous contests too. Not much of an incentive for outside forums, sure, but it could encourage others to join here, eh?

I'm personally not imagining the Dream Splash as an actual contest, but heck, I'd be willing to toss down $20 or so for the winner if we do go that route.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 10, 2018, 08:10:07 pm
I feel like any monetary award murkies the water a bit too much, although I would love to be able to offer a gift card or something to each category winner. Could create vote manipulation and/or other issues.

I wonder if there are any other prizes we can manage beyond a custom trophy? Maybe we could also try and leverage this for activity at the Compendium?
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 11, 2018, 01:49:08 pm
What I'm wondering is, how would we enter our pieces without people knowing whose is whose? Just email them all to Boo perhaps? Also I'm not sure if I want to to digital or traditional medium as I'm just starting to really learn digital painting. I would like the option to do traditional medium if that is what I want to do. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 11, 2018, 05:00:52 pm
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What I'm wondering is, how would we enter our pieces without people knowing whose is whose?

In the past you entered with a post. I am still thinking that is the best option. Even if I am going to Reddit or whatever to advertise, I'd like to drive the traffic back to the Compendium. Perhaps get a few registrations out of it. They create a new post in the Dream Splash VI are and that counts as their entry.

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Also I'm not sure if I want to to digital or traditional medium as I'm just starting to really learn digital painting. I would like the option to do traditional medium if that is what I want to do. Thanks!

I could do traditional versus digital in separate categories. 2D and 3D for both.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 11, 2018, 06:50:36 pm
Yeah I was looking at the old Dream Splashes and I saw that is how people entered. I also would rather have it here to get more traffic going here and hopefully some new, active members.

I will let you know what I'm going to do. I'm still unsure yet. Of course if others want to do traditional, count me in! If it's riding on what I do... I'll keep you posted!
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 12, 2018, 12:16:34 am
You could always do multiple entries! I am thinking of writing a short fanfic of some kind. :)
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 12, 2018, 12:20:44 am
That could be interesting. I'll see how time permits.

I hope the Guru statuses are revisited.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 12, 2018, 09:18:29 am
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I hope the Guru statuses are revisited.

It's definitely time for a new casting of the three. That's on my agenda of "things to do."

I haven't been involved in the past with any of the guru choosing methodology, so I'm not sure how that works. I assume the mods just chat together in a private thread and decide who best embodies each category of Life, Reason, and Time?
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 12, 2018, 01:55:32 pm
I wasn't involved either.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 12, 2018, 02:42:29 pm
You could always do multiple entries! I am thinking of writing a short fanfic of some kind. :)

OMG duh! I knew that, really... Ha ha! I'm smart, but I sometimes overlook the obvious. LOL

Ooooooo Guru casting! That sounds fun!!
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: tushantin on April 13, 2018, 11:29:52 pm
Goddammit, where's the "Like" button when you need it....

You could always do multiple entries! I am thinking of writing a short fanfic of some kind. :)

....Who you planning to ship?
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: tushantin on April 13, 2018, 11:31:36 pm
Also, where's Bekkler and the gang? Call em in!

EDIT: Where does one even submit the art for Dream Splash now?
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 14, 2018, 02:56:15 am
....Who you planning to ship?

I recommend MarlexLucca. :P

EDIT: Where does one even submit the art for Dream Splash now?

Post it here once we've started
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 15, 2018, 07:05:57 pm
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EDIT: Where does one even submit the art for Dream Splash now?

I plan on spending several hours tonight getting the dates, rules, etc. in order. Entry will simply be created a new post under the Dream Splash VI subforum, along with proper titling. I hope to post it tonight.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 15, 2018, 08:23:06 pm
Double post:

Here's what I am proposing for rules:

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RULES:

1.) The contest begins May 1st, 2018 and runs until August 1st, 2018.
2.) You can use any character or setting from the franchise, regardless of source game.
3.) Any medium is welcome, just make sure you categorize it properly when submitting.
4.) If you use any sort of art component from another artist, please remember to credit them appropriately. For example, if you create a video and use a remixed song, please credit the remix author.
5.) With your submission, you must make a short description of your interpretation of the piece and how it applies to the Dream of Zeal.
6.) Multiple entries are not only permitted, but encouraged! You can also submit multiple entries in each category (although they would have to be entered individually).
7.) Have fun and keep the Dream of Zeal alive!

HOW TO ENTER:

The easiest and preferred method would be to post your submit here at the Chrono Compendium.

1.) If not already registered, please do so.
2.) Once in the forums, scroll down to Termina Esplanade - Special Events and Feedback and choose the subforum, Dream Splash VI [2018].
3.) Once here, choose to create a "New Topic." Please provide the title of your post and the category for which it is entered into. Also, in the message of the post, please post your submission along with a short descriptor indicating how it applies to your interpretation of the Dream of Zeal.

Please format the post appropriately, as such: INSERT TITLE HERE [CATEGORY GOES HERE].

For example, let's say I make a painting using oil-based paints. I can capture that however I see fit (photograph, computer scan, etc). This would fall under the 2D art category, so I would post it as:

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The Fall of Magic [2D Art]

An alternate method of entry would be to submit to: <INSERT E-MAIL HERE> to be received by the Compendium's Boo the Gentleman Caller. He is an impartial forum member and not a judge of the content, and he will post it to the Compendium on your behalf with the proper format.

Just a reminder, but you can submit multiple entries in each category! Just make sure each submission is a unique forum topic.

JUDGING:

Judging will occur on or around July 31st, 2018 by a panel of five impartial judges, who may or may not be participants of the competition. If a judge is participating in a category in which they would also be judging, said judge will forgeo judging of that category by default.

CATEGORIES:

2D Art: This may be paintings, drawings, etc. (may be traditional or digital)
3D Art: This may be sculptures, videos, etc. (may be traditional or digital)
Written Word (Short Form): This may be poetry, fan fiction, or an article (less than 500 words)
Written Word (Long Form): This may be poetry, fan fiction, or an article (of equal to or more than 500 words)
Sound and Music: This may be remixes, original music related to the Chronoverse through lyrics, or music heavily inspired by the Chronoverse
Hacking and Interactive: This may be a ROM hack or interactive fan game via another means (ie, Java-based, RPGMaker, etc), may also be a fan-creation tool (such as a custom addon for Geiger's Temporal Flux)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 15, 2018, 08:54:41 pm
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3.) Once here, create a new post. Please provide the title of your post and the category for which it is entered into. Also, in the message of the post, please post your submission along with a short descriptor indicating how it applies to your interpretation of the Dream of Zeal.

This should probably use topic/thread instead of post.

You should add something in there about multiple entries, including a note about multiple entries in the same category.

I'm now toying with three different ideas. Let's see how that works out.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 15, 2018, 09:27:53 pm
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This should probably use topic/thread instead of post.

You should add something in there about multiple entries, including a note about multiple entries in the same category.

Good call out. I edited my post with the description.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 15, 2018, 09:52:06 pm
Looks good to me now.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: tushantin on April 15, 2018, 11:12:19 pm
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Hacking and Interactive: This may be a ROM hack or interactive fan game via another means (ie, Java-based, RPGMaker, etc), may also be a fan-creation tool (such as a custom addon for Geiger's Temporal Flux)

Sounds like somebody's about to have a Game Jam!
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 16, 2018, 03:53:11 pm
My question is... and I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm planning on submitting 3 pieces in 3 different categories. Will each piece have it's own topic?

BTW, so excited that I have until AUGUST!! That is soooooo much time! I'm super excited!!  :D

Thank you!
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 16, 2018, 03:55:26 pm
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My question is... and I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm planning on submitting 3 pieces in 3 different categories. Will each piece have it's own topic?

No such thing as a dumb question. And yes, you'd submit each piece individually. So each piece would have it's own thread. Even if you submit more than one piece in the same category, you'd submit each one individually.

I will make sure that verbiage is easier to understand and follow. :)
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 16, 2018, 05:13:37 pm
Thank you so much for the quick response. That was what I was thinking, but I just wanted to be sure.  :D
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: tushantin on April 17, 2018, 02:40:30 pm
Wouldn't it be funny if I won all the categories?

(Not that it's possible to dethrone the king of hacking, Mauron...)
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 17, 2018, 02:49:58 pm
The most I could win is two categories, hacking and written (long form).
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 17, 2018, 02:53:57 pm
Bah, who cares about winning! It's the *fun* that counts! :D

Although an ego boost is always a good thing.

Speaking of winning, I haven't ironed out judges yet, and I really need to do that. I originally wasn't planning on judging, and I dunno if it would be a conflict of interest seeing that I kicked off the contest and am helping organize it. I assume not but wouldn't want there to appear to be any sort of conflict of interest.

EDIT: I did state in the rules that any judges participating in a category would not judge that category. I was hoping for five judges. Are there any reliable regulars who could judge some categories, assuming you aren't planning on entering much, if at all? I wasn't going to judge but it does make sense, since I probably won't be participating (and if I do at all, it will be a short story).

Thinking out loud -- would registered popular vote be a better method, so the masses could judge (and we just hope that there's not voter manipulation? Could we ban more than 1 vote per IP address?
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 17, 2018, 04:21:24 pm
I actually really love the idea of voting. I'm wondering if after it's done if we can get get feedback on our entries? I've been trying to get input on what's good and what's not on my art not to no avail. I'm just trying to be better! However, that being said, I'm my harshest critic, LOL.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 17, 2018, 05:03:35 pm
Voting could work.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Acacia Sgt on April 17, 2018, 08:23:09 pm
I think regular voting could be good. As it gives a better gauge on what the community at large thinks on the works to be judged.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 17, 2018, 10:34:59 pm
So here's a question for a mod --

Can we ban voting from multiple IP addresses? Not that I'm overly concerned about it, just throwing it out there as a potential sageguard.

If we go with voting, so pretty much what would end up happening is that on August 1st I'd list out all of the submissions for a category and create a voting option. One voting poll for each category. Leave it open a week and then announce the member with the highest vote the winner.

Simple enough.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: tushantin on April 19, 2018, 03:06:47 pm
I bumped into a neat little something (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee1HcECuhME), in case somebody has any funny ideas for the hackfest part of Dream Splash. *cough* The Adventures of Nu and Friends, a Platformer Game *cough*
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: ZeaLitY on April 24, 2018, 04:07:55 am
The Guru titles were secretly to keep people around. Someone putting out enough quality fan content or discussion on the board was probably closer to burn-out or leaving the site than before their output began, and so the award was like "hey, here's some recognition; please continue!"

If we want to award them for the Dream Splash, that's a totally good idea.

Can someone create a Dream Splash VI banner? 400x50, 400x100, whatever works (it can go in the update).
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 24, 2018, 09:42:28 am
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The Guru titles were secretly to keep people around. Someone putting out enough quality fan content or discussion on the board was probably closer to burn-out or leaving the site than before their output began, and so the award was like "hey, here's some recognition; please continue!"

That's still the plan. It should award innovation and commitment, and there's nothing wrong with using it as leverage and an appeal to individual ego.

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If we want to award them for the Dream Splash, that's a totally good idea.

I was planning of using the Poet of El Nido and other titles as awards for the Dream Splash while keeping the Guruship tied to what it always has been.

Each category of Dream Splash would have an unique title award, though. Here is what I have regarding the titles in a .txt file regarding the entire Dream Splash VI (not all of it has made it to the Compendium just yet):

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2D Art: This may be paintings, drawings, etc. (may be traditional or digital)
Artist of Termina
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3D Art: This may be sculptures, videos, etc. (may be traditional or digital)
Sculptor of Kajar
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Written Word (Short Form): This may be poetry, fan fiction, or an article (less than 500 words)
Poet of El Nido
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Written Word (Long Form): This may be poetry, fan fiction, or an article (of equal to or more than 500 words)
Chronicler of Enhasa
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Sound and Music: This may be remixes, original music related to the Chronoverse through lyrics, or music heavily inspired by the Chronoverse
Synergist of Marbule
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Hacking and Interactive: This may be a ROM hack or interactive fan game via another means (ie, Java-based, RPGMaker, etc), may also be a fan-creation tool (such as a custom addon for Geiger's Temporal Flux)
Prodigy of Keeper Dome (or something somehow tying back to Balthasar/Project Kid/Chronopolis)

As for the banner, I asked earlier. No joy. I downloaded gimp a few days ago and started working on something. I need another day, maybe two, and plan on posting here in this thread.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: tushantin on April 24, 2018, 10:53:00 am
Can someone create a Dream Splash VI banner? 400x50, 400x100, whatever works (it can go in the update).

Here ya go, Z!

Smol version:
(https://i.imgur.com/8G13xAd.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/8G13xAd.jpg)

Godzilla Version:
(https://i.imgur.com/oP3TD3V.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/oP3TD3V.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 24, 2018, 11:10:41 am
Looks great tushantin. Thanks for putting that together; I had previously asked if someone could and no one stepped up to bat. I used to do graphic design but no longer have a copy of adobe PS or Illustrator, so I was thinking I was going to have to put this together myself.

By the way, who is the author for the image? We'll want to make sure we properly credit them.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: tushantin on April 24, 2018, 11:13:33 am
I used to do graphic design but no longer have a copy of adobe PS or Illustrator, so I was thinking I was going to have to put this together myself.

Get Krita and Inkscape. I pretty much use those for my professional work too. This was made in Krita.

By the way, who is the author for the image? We'll want to make sure we properly credit them.

Me.

 :P
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 26, 2018, 11:40:46 pm
Awesome! I had no idea. Very, very good (like I said).

Seeing those just pumps me up even more!

And thanks for the advice with Krita and Inkscape. I picked up Gimp the other day, so that will add more tools to my belt. Granted, I haven't done any PS in a decade or so...
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Kodokami on April 27, 2018, 12:00:13 am
Masa and Mune almost look like little house elves here. :D
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 27, 2018, 01:27:03 am
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Masa and Mune almost look like little house elves here.

Just don't give them a sock!

In all seriousness, I am posting the rules and kickoff on 5/1/18. Is it possible for a mod to rename this thread to "Dream Splash VI -- Pre-discussion and Planning" or something? Just for clarity.

I have a few questions for a mod:

1.) I would like to advertise on reddit... Does the Compendium happen to have an official handle on reddit?
2.) If we do a vote for the winner, the voter must be required to be registered at the Compendium. Does a mod know if we can backend so that there is only one vote per IP address? Just to make sure there isn't voting fraud. Not that I'm really worried about it, but you never know.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Mauron on April 27, 2018, 04:29:23 am
You should be able to edit it yourself by using the modify button on the first post.

It's almost launch time!
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 27, 2018, 10:38:32 am
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You should be able to edit it yourself by using the modify button on the first post.
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I, uh, knew that. I was just, uh, checking to make sure you all, uh, knew. Yeah. Yup. That's what I was doin'.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Welcome, Rules, and So Forth
Post by: tushantin on April 30, 2018, 07:18:02 am
Few things that strike me.

1) Why not have a child-board for this?

2) Why not pin your post, if we don't have a child-board? I'm afraid of this thread getting lost. XD

3) I'd generally go with "Chronicler of Choras / Guardia" rather than "Chronicler of Enhasa", simply because there's already another Kingdom of Zeal reference there, but, eh... that's just like my opinion, man.

4) If anybody creates an animation (with the focus ON the animation, NOT the art; illustrations / sculpts with tiny movements don't count), it's worth creating a separate category for it because it just wouldn't be fair to lump it in with 2D Art or 3D Art. One can even make small-clips of animation, perhaps with a model or line-art, to tell a story or convey a feeling. But only if somebody actually creates such a thing.

5) Can I post something today, before the 1st of May?

6) :P
Title: Re: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Welcome, Rules, and So Forth
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 30, 2018, 09:59:28 am
This feedback should be in the other thread for discussion. That's where all this discussion for this have taken place over the past few weeks of planning.

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1) Why not have a child-board for this?
It's in progress. I've asked the mods to do this and we're waiting on them.

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2) Why not pin your post, if we don't have a child-board? I'm afraid of this thread getting lost. XD
It's in progress. There is also a news post coming up.

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4) If anybody creates an animation (with the focus ON the animation, NOT the art; illustrations / sculpts with tiny movements don't count), it's worth creating a separate category for it because it just wouldn't be fair to lump it in with 2D Art or 3D Art. One can even make small-clips of animation, perhaps with a model or line-art, to tell a story or convey a feeling. But only if somebody actually creates such a thing.
So there was some offline chatter whether or not animation should be broken out into it's own category and we landed on combining it in with the 3D medium as a 3D+moving art category. Simply because both of those are highly unlikely to have many entries. I mean, let's be real, you're the only current Compendium member that does any sort of moving animation, haha... Admit it you, you just want to win by default, hahaha...

:P

In all seriousness, though, I'll take it offline for discussion and may break it out. No promises though. Discussion for this has been going on weeks months and we are less than 24 hours away from formally starting the competition, so I don't want to make a ton of program changes at the last minute.

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5) Can I post something today, before the 1st of May?
Nope. May 1st is start date.

Just a heads up, I've asked the mods to move both your post and mine and move them to the discussion thread. That's where this should have gone. So if you come back here and our posts are elsewhere, that's where they will be.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- The Theme
Post by: Kodokami on April 30, 2018, 02:27:24 pm
I have a few questions for a mod:

1.) I would like to advertise on reddit... Does the Compendium happen to have an official handle on reddit?
2.) If we do a vote for the winner, the voter must be required to be registered at the Compendium. Does a mod know if we can backend so that there is only one vote per IP address? Just to make sure there isn't voting fraud. Not that I'm really worried about it, but you never know.

1) As far I know, there is no official Reddit handle for the Compendium. I'm not sure we need one anyway (Does anyone disagree?). I've shared a few Compendium topics there before, so feel free to start up something new.
2) Unless there's something I'm missing, I can only lock polls to votes per user, not per IP.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 30, 2018, 03:05:19 pm
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Just a heads up, I've asked the mods to move both your post and mine and move them to the discussion thread. That's where this should have gone. So if you come back here and our posts are elsewhere, that's where they will be.

Thanks for moving these, Kodokami. That should make it a little easier for the conversation to follow.

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So there was some offline chatter whether or not animation should be broken out into it's own category and we landed on combining it in with the 3D medium as a 3D+moving art category. Simply because both of those are highly unlikely to have many entries.

@Tushantin, we're going to break it out. The rules thread will reflect that. The new category will be any moving art -- animation, .gif, video, moving sprites, etc. You better enter in that category!

:D

Thanks for all the help, Kodokami!



Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Kodokami on April 30, 2018, 03:09:56 pm
Anytime. Still working on how to do a site update...

VOTIN AND PRIZESG:

By the way, I sure do love votin' and prizesg. :P
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 30, 2018, 03:19:00 pm
Whoops. That was a late addition from when I originally typed all this up. I'll have to update it.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: PrincessNadia78 on April 30, 2018, 05:41:54 pm
Anytime. Still working on how to do a site update...

VOTIN AND PRIZESG:

By the way, I sure do love votin' and prizesg. :P

I just had to say, this made me LOL!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on April 30, 2018, 05:47:39 pm
I thought about leaving it as Votin' as an inside joke, but my professionalism won out.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Mauron on April 30, 2018, 05:51:44 pm
I'm torn between Voting and Prizes (G) and Votin' and Prizes, G.

Excuse me while I enter this contest to win more G.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 01, 2018, 08:47:57 am
Well, you could always beat me up and get 15 SP.

:/
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Mauron on May 01, 2018, 01:43:02 pm
Our very own Gato. :)
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 06, 2018, 03:17:13 am
Can a mod make a formal news announcement on the website's front page for this?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Kodokami on May 06, 2018, 02:29:51 pm
Turns out I just needed to move the topic to one of the news sections. Kinda takes up quite a bit of room on the home page though, so I'll probably move it back later today and create a new topic for the home page that links back here.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: ZeaLitY on May 07, 2018, 12:40:52 am
I was updating the about page and completely forgot about the three other annual contests we were supposed to run, and their associated forum ranks. What should we do with those? (I'm rusty on the thread here.) Could the Dream Splash simply be the one annual event, with those forum ranks repurposed to serve some of the awards for different mediums?

Edit: Forgot I had those screenshots on there. God, I miss this layout:

(https://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/2/23/GoodbyeV.png)

Something about it was so mind-blowingly advanced for 2005. The format was really restrictive (and would've looked terrifyingly bad on today's resolutions), but damn, that look was white-hot.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: tushantin on May 07, 2018, 05:29:43 am
Something about it was so mind-blowingly advanced for 2005. The format was really restrictive (and would've looked terrifyingly bad on today's resolutions), but damn, that look was white-hot.
Having a nostalgia-trip, Z?
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 07, 2018, 08:37:56 am
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I was updating the about page and completely forgot about the three other annual contests we were supposed to run, and their associated forum ranks. What should we do with those? (I'm rusty on the thread here.) Could the Dream Splash simply be the one annual event, with those forum ranks repurposed to serve some of the awards for different mediums?

In all honesty, I don't think we have enough activity to support multiple competitions. I think one annually (or biannually if necessary) is sufficient, and Dream Splash sort of fit that bill. We can also change rules as we go.

For example, for this Dream Splash I expanded the categories and awarded titles list so we have full coverage of categories and incentive.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Mauron on May 09, 2018, 05:01:26 am
Two things I'd like to clarify.

1) What time zone is the end date in?

2) Are there any issues with editing an entry prior to the submission deadline?

I'll have an entry ready in the next few days, but it may require some tweaking before the end of the contest.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Boo the Gentleman Caller on May 09, 2018, 09:23:43 am
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1) What time zone is the end date in?

Uh, Z'ha'dum central standard?

In all seriousness, I hadn't really considered it. I'm not going to be a dick about it, so let's just say the latest possible 5/1 time zone there is...?

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2) Are there any issues with editing an entry prior to the submission deadline?

Not at all. Hell, you want to post a WIP and get feedback, it's all fair game. Just make sure the first post is edited to hold the final product for ease of viewing/considerations/etc.
Title: Re: Dream Splash VI -- Planning and Pre-Discussion
Post by: Mauron on May 09, 2018, 12:57:31 pm
I figured that was the case.

My entry may be final, but I may have updates.