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Kajar Laboratories - Fan Works and Submissions => Fan Art => Topic started by: Straafe on July 12, 2008, 09:58:17 pm
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Against popular demand/feedback i decided to make my own 3d/cg frog because I don't really like any of the 3d frogs i have seen that have already been made. Got a good start today, and i think i made a good base to work up from.
Thanks to the chrono trigger resurrection team for reference (http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/FrogConcept.jpg).
http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/frog1net.jpg (http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/frog1net.jpg) full res
(http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/frog1net.jpg)
As with the last two, the plan is to complete the character and then implement it in a scene for the final piece. I just moved and dont have internet where i live anymore, so ill just post updates mainly with major progress. If you see something you find hideous with anything on the character, please let me know. Thanks.
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looks good!
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Looking forward to it straafe!
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Did a lot more on frog, a lot of prelim texturing out of the way along with a lot more modeling. All the frog reference/game art points to this flawless, smooth, shiny character (skin and armor), but my vision of the character is a more beat up, wisened, dirty one. So I roughed up his skin a bit to look more like an actual frog/toad and scuffed his armor. Anyway, a lot more to do, but here's the latest, I hope you like it:
(http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/alltest8.jpg)
Oh yea, the lighting is a test lighting solution also.
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Oh fuck!
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Holy shnikeys. That may be one of the best interpretations of Frog I have ever seen. And I'm not shnikeying you!
IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL...
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Thanks man, i appreciate your compliments. Finished his little sack, added some more experimental details that aren't in the reference, and finished the sheath. Next on the list is add the wrinkles to the pants and make the sword. I'll post the update tomorrow.
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Latest:
(http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/alltest9.jpg)
Let me know if that chain on his armor should stay. Quickly made the sword/sheath as well.
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Whoa...epoch win.
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Yeah, I don't see the point of the added chain, really...Otherwise, very cool, but I can't help but think that the proportions seem...off. It might just be because of seeing Frog in 3D, but he looks too...idk...short? stunted? (EDIT: Maybe the head seems too big?) And his gloves & boots weren't blue, I don't think, but a dark green...and his eyes weren't cat-slits either.
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And his gloves & boots weren't blue, I don't think, but a dark green.
Nope they're blue, I remember from his victory pose.
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(http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/6/60/Frog1.jpg)
Yeah, you're right...weird, I was looking at the image in my CT instruction booklet and I swear it looks dark green...maybe it's my lighting here, I guess...V_V
Well, um...the top part of the boot is yellow! :)
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What a nice piece of work you got there Straafe!!! looks real great!!! :D
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It looks better with the chain to be honest. It doesn't make it look as bland. Very nice job ^^
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Yeah, it looks better with the chain.
And personally, I love the eyes. I mean, Frog's pupil's aren't quite slits like you used, Straafe, but they're also not round like a human's pupil. Anyone who is curious can look and see what Frog's eyes look like on the above art Translanka posted. However, I should note, I LOVE the eyes as is. Seriously. That's what gets me about this piece: the face. The skin and eyes look so amazingly realistic.
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Indeed, it's beautiful! More than any other 3D Frog I've seen.
I don't know if it's just because it's an static pose, but his cape seems much unreal and weird? Will you still edit it or add some texture or make some incredible 3D thing on it? Or is it already finished and will look way cooler in the final piece?
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Maybe the head seems too big
I had gotten that before when showing it to a friend, and it does look big when compared to some of the square art. I actually shrank it a bit between the last two pics. I beleive it came out a little large because the chrono resurrection reference pic had it a little too large, and that was what I used to model the head initially (http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/FrogConcept.jpg)
It does look like it should be smaller when compared to this (http://www.rpgplanet.com/chrono/images/ct/oaw-frog.jpg)
I don't know if it's just because it's an static pose, but his cape seems much unreal and weird
You are completely right, right now the cape is basically a shape / placeholder. There arent folds in it or any cloth simulation right now. It's there to help me see and plan ahead what I will want it to look like. I plan to have it looking better in the final version/versions to come.
As far as the eyes, V is right, they are more 'reptilian' than amphibian, but I liked the look so I went with it. I would rather have something more like (http://gallery.photo.net/photo/5826000-lg.jpg) towards the end, but we will see.
I like the chain too, I added it because I saw it in a frog fan art drawing that I really liked, although I am not sure of its purpose. (http://www.cutelucca.com/Frog.jpg)
V_trans - I think the legs look too short in the 3d model compared to the pic you posted and that could also be why the proportions look off. Again they were modeled from the CT-Res artwork which may be off, but I will tweak the proportions a bit.
Thanks everybody! More updates soon.
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latest:
(http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/alltest10.jpg)
To make the chain more 'useful' i added a hopefully olde english like emblem (hopefully not taking that too overboard), added leather belt straps to boots/gloves, did wrinkles in the pants, and put some metal plating on the tops of the boots (it look like fabric in the square art that is the same material as the armor, which doesnt make much sense, so I just made them metal plates). Also shrank the head some more.
PS - its getting near that time when i need to figure out what kind of scene[ery] and pose he will be in for a final shot, so if you have an idea let me know
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Can you bring the global lighting to ~12:00 of Frog's anterior so I can get a better look at the model's textures.
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Alright, I think I like the chain now that it seems to serve a purpose, but how about instead of being entirely ornamental, it holds something like...
(http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/1/19/Hero_Medal.png)
The Hero Medal! I think that'd be a lot neater & useful than some kind of, idk...victorian cross or whatever that is...? But maybe putting in the Hero Medal would be too difficult?
Anyways, looks better already with just that little bit of a head reduction!
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I like a challenge, so i'll give the medal shot once i get everything else squared away. here is the more-lit version, BROJ:
(http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/alltest12.jpg)
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I like it... I wish we could find need of it in Chrono Cross: The Darkness Beyond Time...
No; wait. I don't like it. I LOVE IT! It just keeps on getting better and better!
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Hmm...the extreme light makes it look weird...It also drew my eye to his arms, which looks like you haven't changed to Frog's skin tones...?
As for setting, how about the top of Magus' Castle?
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If you like challenges how about Magus vs. Frog in the castle? I am not expecting it, but it'll be cool.
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Wow, that's really coming together! Looks good.
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Looks good so far, Straafe; I don't know if this would detract from your envisioning, but could you replace the aged ferrous texture on the cuirass, shield and sheath with more of a brassy or gold texture(whichever looks better).
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which looks like you haven't changed to Frog's skin tones...?
his skin should all be the same tones as reference. you cannot see the brown stripe/green on the arm because those colors are on the back side of the arm.
but could you replace the aged ferrous texture on the cuirass, shield and sheath with more of a brassy or gold texture
I will see if i can find a happy medium, i made it a little more reflective and changed the tone to a little bit of a mroe 'gold tone'
ive stopped workin on textures for a while because i have been workin on the less-fun areas of creating the rig(skeleton/bones, etc) for him so he can be posed/animated.
edit- finally finished the rig, it was morecomplicated that i thought. But now he can be animated/lip synced/whatever
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i may have to take a short break on this project before i do anything else, so i decided to make a quick, dynamic pose with what i have and render it out in good quality and 1300x1200 resolution. I'll call this a 'mostly-complete' (~80%) representation of the 3d frog project.
For those who are familiar, ambient occlusion has also been used to bring out the details. I was going for an attack pose (mid swing, in the air), but it might pass as a version of the victory pose. Feel free to let me know your thoughts. I added another version with slight Depth of Field to see if it would add realism, so take your pick on which you like best.
DOF Version:
FULL RESOLUTION -> http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/Submissionopt.jpg
(http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/Submissionopt.jpg)
Non DOF Version:
FULL RESOLUTION -> http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/AtkPose1noDOFopt.jpg
(http://www.freewebs.com/straafe/AtkPose1noDOFopt.jpg)
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Looks good.
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Looks great, but shouldn't the arms be exposed?
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they are, the under-surface of the arms is white
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It... looks... BEAUTIFUL!
I'm archiving that!
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Hmm...they are...? I didn't think they'd be that completely white...Oh, also, maybe make his sword more reflective/metal/silvery...?
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you're right about the sword, it is definitely lacking the metallic look
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XD Dang it, I LOVE THAT!! Wish I could model like that (I've got 3Ds Max, been trying to learn but... can't seem to understand it...). Except... the flash looks metallic. o_O And the sword could have some mirror like properties in order to look realistic, more metallic.
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wow its frogtastic ! i love his armor !
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is this still ongoing?
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is this still ongoing?
Yeah, he's just taking a short break.
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Hey man, this is incredible stuff. I'm not sure when you're getting off your break, but I look forward to the end result!! Keep it up.
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Hey thanks guys. Yea, this project is nearly finished but on hold. Too much other work at the moment and no time to work on it.
Ive got an idea for the final scene for frog, but i think im going to wait until its all done before i post it so its more of a 'surprise'
Updates:
8-8-08
-Frog has new eyes, that actually look like they came from a frog
-Frog has a tongue
-Made an environment loosely based on the anime cutscene where frog uses the masamune (I hope it turns out well)
8-9-08
-Finally merged the character into his scene after a huge headache, and scaled him correctly
To Do:
-(Not Enough time) Swap out the cross medal for the hero medal
8-10-08
The final image will be posted tomorrow in it's own thread (one not labeled WIP). A lot of work went into it and I hope you all like it!
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-(Not Enough time) Swap out the cross medal for the hero medal
boo! :lol:
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hahaha sorry man :D