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Enhasa Halls - Chrono Series Analysis => Characters, Plot, and Themes => Topic started by: Aspenvenom619 on March 27, 2006, 02:24:17 pm
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In Chrono Cross when Kid is poisoned and you elect not to save her, a mysterious stranger shows up and has the antidote. Isn't this stranger Magus? You never see who saves her but the assumption makes sense. I haven't played the game in a long time but I swear there was a cutscene in the doctors office in Guldove with an annonymous cat that I'm guessing is Alfador
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I'm fairly certain about the event you are refering to, it was Norris who saved her.
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just confirming
it would've been nice though right?
i believe that Magus is looking over her in a way, but he must be middle aged by now
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just confirming
it would've been nice though right?
i believe that Magus is looking over her in a way, but he must be middle aged by now
Yes, it would be nice. Though with Magus, it seems he looks better with age, or atleast after the journey, he kind of lost that red eye, pointy eared look to him, kinda proven by Guiles appearance too.
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Yes, his appearence with Magil (who is said to be 'handsome' with the mask off) seems to support this as well. It's definetly Norris who saves her, though. One of the New Game+ Endings points to that direction.
The huge cat, by the way, is one of Mel's cats. But the encounter with Lynx the night before triggered Serge's phobia from large cats, and made her cat look like one of Lynx's Shadow Cats for several moments.
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i don't know i think Mangus is Guile b/c i mean he where's a mask so you don't know who he really is and the hair long and bluish-purple!!!
well it's a good theory !!!
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i don't know i think Mangus is Guile b/c i mean he where's a mask so you don't know who he really is and the hair long and bluish-purple!!!
well it's a good theory !!!
Magus was supposed to be Guile, but because Masato was lazy, he thought that having 40 characters and doing the Kid, Schala, Janus plot would be to hard. Lucca's letter was actually designed for his appearance.
Stupid shit characters destroyed Janus' plot =.=
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Magus was supposed to be Guile, but because Masato was lazy, he thought that having 40 characters and doing the Kid, Schala, Janus plot would be to hard. Lucca's letter was actually designed for his appearance. Stupid shit characters destroyed Janus' plot =.=
I couldn't agree more. Though the events with Leah were interesting, but foolish. I didn't see the relevance at all. It seems as though it was hard to intergrate Magus/Janus into the plot. But I got to tell you . . . reading Lucca's letter in the end + hearing about "him" wathcing over Kid + that unknown character shadow in Luccia's room = some sort of strange feeling inside me that told me that "he" really is out there somewhere still searching for Schala or watching over Kid. I wonder how Kid felt reading about this mysterious Janus person possibly watching over her in some way.
Magus is just my favorite character, some may agree, for strange and passionate reasons. One thing that is amiss in my conclusions (sorry for going off topic) was in Lucca's letter, why did she refer to him as Janus instead of Magus? Was she trying to cover up identity or something?
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Yes, it would be nice. Though with Magus, it seems he looks better with age, or atleast after the journey, he kind of lost that red eye, pointy eared look to him, kinda proven by Guiles appearance too.
Wasn't there a discussion about why Magus looked the way he did? I recall that many believed he used his dark magic to change his physical appearance so as to look more like someone the mystics would call their leader. Others believed he "meta-evolved" into a batlike demi-human or something along these lines. Anyone have a link?
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Yes, it would be nice. Though with Magus, it seems he looks better with age, or atleast after the journey, he kind of lost that red eye, pointy eared look to him, kinda proven by Guiles appearance too.
Wasn't there a discussion about why Magus looked the way he did? I recall that many believed he used his dark magic to change his physical appearance so as to look more like someone the mystics would call their leader. Others believed he "meta-evolved" into a batlike demi-human or something along these lines. Anyone have a link?
That never happened to anyone in Zeal, nor Queen Zeal or Schala and no black innates either.
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I know, I didn't say I believed it, I'm just mentioning it to see if anyone knows what discussion I'm referencing.
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One thing that is amiss in my conclusions (sorry for going off topic) was in Lucca's letter, why did she refer to him as Janus instead of Magus? Was she trying to cover up identity or something?
She wrote Janus instead of Magus because, as far as Kid and Serge's party are concerned, Magus is a "just" a Demon Warlock King from the Middle Ages who rose among the bloodthirsty Mystics and led a disastrous war against Guardia. "Janus", although unknown to Kid, is a less "WTF-ish" name...
Wasn't there a discussion about why Magus looked the way he did? I recall that many believed he used his dark magic to change his physical appearance so as to look more like someone the mystics would call their leader. Others believed he "meta-evolved" into a batlike demi-human or something along these lines. Anyone have a link?
It may have been because of dark magic, but if it was it was surely a voluntary and slow process. Voluntary because, as said, other users of dark magic don't have their appearance changed, and slow because the "Prophet" put a mere cape and hood in 12,000 BC to cover his face, instead of quickly changing his look with magic.
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She wrote Janus instead of Magus because, as far as Kid and Serge's party are concerned, Magus is a "just" a Demon Warlock King from the Middle Ages who rose among the bloodthirsty Mystics and led a disastrous war against Guardia. "Janus", although unknown to Kid, is a less "WTF-ish" name...
I never really thought about it that way. Thanks Chrono99! I am hoping that "he" still is somewhere watching over Kid or searching for Schala. Though I never really calculated age for Magus. He should be in his late 30s to early 40s now, right?
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She wrote Janus instead of Magus because, as far as Kid and Serge's party are concerned, Magus is a "just" a Demon Warlock King from the Middle Ages who rose among the bloodthirsty Mystics and led a disastrous war against Guardia. "Janus", although unknown to Kid, is a less "WTF-ish" name...
I never really thought about it that way. Thanks Chrono99! I am hoping that "he" still is somewhere watching over Kid or searching for Schala. Though I never really calculated age for Magus. He should be in his late 30s to early 40s now, right?
For a Zealian, or someone of his stature, and from what RD said, he may be in his 30s, but not 30s as in human wise. Besides having royal blood and the power to change forms (well atleast change other peoples forms), and if what Chrono'99 said was true, then he probably may look younger anyway, with an air of nobility.
Personally, I don't think Magus looks that warped. He may be pale if he stays in that castle all day, or maybe hes got that illness with the sun or something. The red eyes may mean that they're bloodshot, and the ears could be normal for Zealians. I mean, they must have a trait of somekind. They do in themselves say that they are distanced apart from the Earthbound ones.
But if it came down to, as Chrono'99 said, a voluntary process, i'd come to two conclusion.
Magus had to do it for his position with the mystic and Ozzie, though I believe that Magus, even as Janus, was always stronger than Ozzie. And Magus just outright showed him off and Ozzie didn't torture him or any of that bullshit.
And my other conclusion would be that Magus doesn't seem like a type of person who'd change just for the mystics. Personally, he seems to me in comparison to them that hes above them, so he wouldn't care what they think. Aslong as he has power, they worship him.
So yeah, Like I said, I doubt his appearance comes down to his dark magic. It may be voluntary, or just his appearance brought on by his sorrow (like if hes gothic in nature, he stays inside and gets pale etc).
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Magus changed his skin-tone, eye color and ear shape to seem less human. The mystics would go crazy if they knew their leader was a human and not some mighty-god-kickass-magic Demi-Human. His looks in RD is Janus as he should look. Just like Schala is a beautiful woman, Janus is a handsome man.
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i don't know i think Mangus is Guile b/c i mean he where's a mask so you don't know who he really is and the hair long and bluish-purple!!!
well it's a good theory !!!
Magus was supposed to be Guile, but because Masato was lazy, he thought that having 40 characters and doing the Kid, Schala, Janus plot would be to hard. Lucca's letter was actually designed for his appearance.
Stupid shit characters destroyed Janus' plot =.=
oh ic!
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oh ic!
Have you been drinking, son?
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Magus was supposed to be Guile, but because Masato was lazy, he thought that having 40 characters and doing the Kid, Schala, Janus plot would be to hard. Lucca's letter was actually designed for his appearance.
Stupid shit characters destroyed Janus' plot =.=
Actually, I think it was more about the time constraints and limited budget that caused the whole Magus/Janus thing to disappear, as opposed to lazy developers and artists. Besides, if Lucca's letter was designed for Magus/Janus's appearance, why on Earth would the programmers have kept it in the game's final build? That'd be on hell of an oversight.
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Question: It was mentioned in Lucca's letter that Janus existed. Did Janus
('Trigger's' Magus) appear at all in 'Cross'?
Answer: Originally, I wanted to write about Schala's and Janus's story after
that, but I gave up after we reached about 40 characters. I felt that writing
the close relation between Schala, Kid and Janus would impossible if I had to
squeeze the number of characters. As for Lucca's letter, when we started
developing for the game, the letter was written as Janus appearance was
planned. Lucca knew that Magus was in search of Schala, and since she didn't
even explicitly mention Janus's whereabouts, we left the letter as it is.
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Yeah, also it would add another Cameo to the game, and we all love cameos!