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Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: chrono trigger on February 09, 2006, 07:29:54 pm
what do you think would be its scenario?from the name ''break''we understand that after the events of ct and cc the time would be REALLY messed up and eventualy time would revenge earth/world or maybe the time would be reversed
now with the second registered trademarc chrono brake(its still registered only in japan)maybe the time would stop?or not proceed anymore?who knows

anyway what do u think it would be?maybe chrono brake/break would be a PREQUEL to ct to see how lavos fall to earth and the background story behind him(we dont even now where he came from.the explaination he fell from the heavens is not enough....maybe he came from another galaxy.or maybe aliens send him.or maybe god send him to test humans) or after the events of ct what happened to crono and the others?or maybe after cc.or maybe what happened to magus??or even a brand new story...
damn i wish they just realise it:P
Title: Re: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Paradox on February 09, 2006, 08:08:52 pm
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what do you think would be its scenario?from the name ''break''we understand that after the events of ct and cc the time would be REALLY messed up and eventualy time would revenge earth/world or maybe the time would be reversed
now with the second registered trademarc chrono brake(its still registered only in japan)maybe the time would stop?or not proceed anymore?who knows

anyway what do u think it would be?maybe chrono brake/break would be a PREQUEL to ct to see how lavos fall to earth and the background story behind him(we dont even now where he came from.the explaination he fell from the heavens is not enough....maybe he came from another galaxy.or maybe aliens send him.or maybe god send him to test humans) or after the events of ct what happened to crono and the others?or maybe after cc.or maybe what happened to magus??or even a brand new story...
damn i wish they just realise it:P


I'm going to have to go with a whole new story on this one. It seems to fit the bill nicely. A brand new story, enemy, and hero who're influenced by the events witnessed in CT and CC.

But thats what I -think- will happen. What I -want- to happen is something like the background story to Lavos, or maybe the future of Magus. Maybe the entire timestream with "break" and the events of CC or CT will be changed -drastically- which results in Gaspar returning to a point in time and getting Chrono and Co. to come aid the future once again! And you'd have to try and gather your old party back up from their different points in history and see... bah, it wont happen... but I want it to ;_;
Ooo! Or maybe it'd follow the classic Dragon Ball Z kind of style (works with the animation in the PSX version :P) and some grander, different, new enemy appears funking with the timestream and Crono and Co. have to defeat it!

Imma' gonna' stop myself now before I start bouncing up and down in my chair giddy as a schoolgirl at the prospect of a CT/CC prequel or sequel like that, even though I know it wont happen. Oh well, a guy can dream?
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Sentenal on February 09, 2006, 09:30:23 pm
I don't think prequels are possible in a game where you time travel to prehistoric times.  Sure, its possible, but who wants to play in a time period where inteligent life hasn't formed?  Plus, if it was a prequel, you know that you couldn't win.

I think Chrono Break/Brake will take place after the realtive events of CC.  It will have something to do with time breaking, and disaster happening, or something to do with time braking, or stopping, and disaster happening.  Or your trying to stop the said breaking/braking.

Take your pick on which meaning of break/brake you want.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: fxar99 on February 10, 2006, 08:00:39 am
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Take your pick on which meaning of break/brake you want.


No, the name "Chrono Break" has nothing to do with the storyline.

In the same way, the titles "Chrono Trigger" and "Chrono Cross" had nothing to do with the games, except that an object in each game was named after them.

We didn't see a trigger in Chrono Trigger. We didn't see a cross (or didn't 'cross' anything) in Chrono Cross. We won't need to break anything in Chrono Break. It'll be just another object named in a crazy way, just to explain the title.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Chrono'99 on February 10, 2006, 08:35:32 am
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We didn't see a trigger in Chrono Trigger. We didn't see a cross (or didn't 'cross' anything) in Chrono Cross. We won't need to break anything in Chrono Break. It'll be just another object named in a crazy way, just to explain the title.

You gotta be kidding. We triggered the world restoration in CT by preventing its destruction, and in CC we crossed dimensions. That was even the commercial tagline for CC:
"1995, we crossed time, 2000, we'll cross dimensions".
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: SilentMartyr on February 10, 2006, 10:47:23 am
I would assume that one or two characters from the previous games would be somehow involved, that Chrono Break was some item that does something to alter time, and that some crazy shit that makes the TD looke like a Bunny Rabbit is looming over the Chronoverse.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: fxar99 on February 10, 2006, 11:44:10 am
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We didn't see a trigger in Chrono Trigger. We didn't see a cross (or didn't 'cross' anything) in Chrono Cross. We won't need to break anything in Chrono Break. It'll be just another object named in a crazy way, just to explain the title.

You gotta be kidding. We triggered the world restoration in CT by preventing its destruction, and in CC we crossed dimensions. That was even the commercial tagline for CC:
"1995, we crossed time, 2000, we'll cross dimensions".


You gotta be kidding. In every game you triggerand cross things. The "Chrono Trigger" and the "Chrono Cross" were just objects. Did the egg look like a trigger? Did the element look like a cross? No... Cmon, Square-Enix didn't ask Masato Kato about the title, they just bought it.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Zaperking on February 10, 2006, 06:21:57 pm
The Cross was supposed to be symbolic. Like when two paths interwine. That is what happened with Schala and Serge. At that point later on the dimensions split. The Chrono Cross has the ability to remerge timelines, transfer memories, merge people and heal memories.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Sentenal on February 10, 2006, 06:43:16 pm
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We didn't see a trigger in Chrono Trigger. We didn't see a cross (or didn't 'cross' anything) in Chrono Cross. We won't need to break anything in Chrono Break. It'll be just another object named in a crazy way, just to explain the title.

You gotta be kidding. We triggered the world restoration in CT by preventing its destruction, and in CC we crossed dimensions. That was even the commercial tagline for CC:
"1995, we crossed time, 2000, we'll cross dimensions".


You gotta be kidding. In every game you triggerand cross things. The "Chrono Trigger" and the "Chrono Cross" were just objects. Did the egg look like a trigger? Did the element look like a cross? No... Cmon, Square-Enix didn't ask Masato Kato about the title, they just bought it.

Your wrong.  In Trigger, you Trigger a major change in time, Lavos' defeat.  That the consept of CT.  In Cross, you Cross dimensions.  Thats its consept.  It will be the same with Brake/Break.  Sure, there were objects called the Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, but thats hardly relavant to what were saying.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: AuraTwilight on February 10, 2006, 07:32:54 pm
I once saw a forum RPG that gave it's own interpretation of Chrono Break. I guess it's worth mentioning. It had all the time periods and timelines merged into one timeline/timeperiod, so that you could WALK from 65,000,000 to 2300 AD. It was so chaotic, because it was caused by some bad guy that made it's temporal castle in the DBT, which became the center of the new Dead Sea-style world. It was like End of Evangelion after Lilith dies, and I think the bad guy was the soul of Lavos or something, reincarnated as an extremely powerful human wizard through using Kid as a mock Virgin Mary.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: ChronoMagus on February 11, 2006, 02:02:10 pm
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We didn't see a trigger in Chrono Trigger. We didn't see a cross (or didn't 'cross' anything) in Chrono Cross. We won't need to break anything in Chrono Break. It'll be just another object named in a crazy way, just to explain the title.

You gotta be kidding. We triggered the world restoration in CT by preventing its destruction, and in CC we crossed dimensions. That was even the commercial tagline for CC:
"1995, we crossed time, 2000, we'll cross dimensions".


You gotta be kidding. In every game you triggerand cross things. The "Chrono Trigger" and the "Chrono Cross" were just objects. Did the egg look like a trigger? Did the element look like a cross? No... Cmon, Square-Enix didn't ask Masato Kato about the title, they just bought it.

Your wrong.  In Trigger, you Trigger a major change in time, Lavos' defeat.  That the consept of CT.  In Cross, you Cross dimensions.  Thats its consept.  It will be the same with Brake/Break.  Sure, there were objects called the Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, but thats hardly relavant to what were saying.

The Chrono Trigger actually was a Trigger... technically if you follow the "true" storyline of CT, the Chrono Trigger is what you need to Trigger the rebirth of Crono... with the rebirth of Crono finally you have Triggered all the major "necessary" (yes I know you can kill Lavos without saving Crono... but in the "correct" ending you should have saved him) events to defeat Lavos.  And yes the real trigger meaning is you triggered time to save the world.
If it is Break then its probably like breaking time, you know something like the TD comes and begins destroying time and sending everything to the DBT and the entire world is about to be removed from existence...
If its Brake then it probably means slowing down the hectic pace of time.  As in it will be the final battle, and finally time will work normally, without the interferance of other beings that can counteract the Entity.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: fxar99 on February 11, 2006, 05:50:07 pm
You have completely missed my point. See it this way. In Sonic The Hedgehog, you cross an island and trigger Dr Robotnik's defeat by breaking the glass he is protected by, in the last battle. It's not called Sonic Trigger, Sonic Cross or Sonic Break. You trigger, cross and break things in every game.

You'll see, if Chrono Break ever exists, the most relevant event I can think of is breaking the Epoch for some reason. :D

Seriously, I prefer seeing this subject with realism: Masato Kato has nothing to do with the name 'Chrono Break'. That's is SE-side.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Ruby Raider on February 13, 2006, 06:47:10 pm
Well I think it will be on the war of Guardia and Porre....
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: ChronoMagus on February 13, 2006, 06:49:49 pm
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You have completely missed my point. See it this way. In Sonic The Hedgehog, you cross an island and trigger Dr Robotnik's defeat by breaking the glass he is protected by, in the last battle. It's not called Sonic Trigger, Sonic Cross or Sonic Break. You trigger, cross and break things in every game.

You'll see, if Chrono Break ever exists, the most relevant event I can think of is breaking the Epoch for some reason. :D

Seriously, I prefer seeing this subject with realism: Masato Kato has nothing to do with the name 'Chrono Break'. That's is SE-side.

Uhm... but the whole theme was not about triggering or crossing or breaking, the theme was a little hedgehog who liked to kick a retarded mad scientist's ass.
Title: Re: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: knightx on February 18, 2006, 05:27:39 pm
Having the original cast back plus the Cross cast would be cool as hell but they would really need 2 make the game longer compared to other RPGs Trigger And Cross were pretty short.i think some else posted this but i don't SE won't bring the old cast back they seem 2 be more intrested in there Final Fantasy Series.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: AuraTwilight on February 18, 2006, 09:05:34 pm
Plus they're powerful enough to defeat godlike entities from space, and would thus be totally unfun to play.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: knightx on February 19, 2006, 03:16:08 am
a new enemy could strip them of there magic and power 4 a whole new adventure.a 3D remake of Trigger would be great so far these fan made games look like ther gonna rule.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: cupn00dles on February 19, 2006, 12:46:06 pm
One of these days, while playing DQVIII, I started wondering how would Trigger look-like in the PS2, with cel-shading graphics and all... And started having chills at the spine :~ Hope this remake happens someday... At PS3/Rev maybe... Dreaming won't kill ><
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: knightx on February 19, 2006, 01:18:00 pm
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One of these days, while playing DQVIII, I started wondering how would Trigger look-like in the PS2, with cel-shading graphics and all... And started having chills at the spine :~ Hope this remake happens someday... At PS3/Rev maybe... Dreaming won't kill ><




That what a lot of Trigger fans have said but the chances of it happning r slim to none but dreamin don't kill.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: AuraTwilight on February 19, 2006, 07:44:54 pm
Trigger already had a remake. Why do we need two?
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: knightx on February 19, 2006, 11:46:03 pm
maybe to see the game in a new light or to get a longer game. i would like it cause it was the game that got me into RPGs i would like to see it reborn 4 todays gamers and just 2 see what it would look like Cross was good but just 2 many PCs 4 my tastes. But it want happen SE doesn't seem 2 interestend in it right now mayby in a few years.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Mystik3eb on February 20, 2006, 12:24:41 am
No, a remake, not a port, Aura.

I would not be happy with a cel-shaded remake. CT deserves quality, 3D, somewhat-cartoony graphics like CT: R had in mind. I just don't feel cel-shading would do it justice.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: JoeC_1234 on February 20, 2006, 01:05:52 am
Chrono Brake would most definitely have time standing still at one point or another. It would make sense fromt eh perspective of the title.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: knightx on February 20, 2006, 04:05:01 am
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No, a remake, not a port, Aura.

I would not be happy with a cel-shaded remake. CT deserves quality, 3D, somewhat-cartoony graphics like CT: R had in mind. I just don't feel cel-shading would do it justice.



a total over haul on Trigger would be cool but u would need 2 add to the story or it would just end up being 2 short that was the only thing i didn't like about Trigger it was over way 2 fast And Cross just had 2 many PCs i think some posted that there 40+ in Cross.3D is what i think a Trigger remake should be and mayby give u a choice of having Crono Talk or Not 2 have him talk would add replay but thats just my thoughts on it.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: cupn00dles on February 20, 2006, 08:30:17 am
Another thing that a remake could do would be minimize some small little plot holes, if they were plot holes at all, that is  :roll: Things such as the Sea of Eden (the original, that later would become the el nido archipelago, without the islands created by FATE) could be put on the map among other little touches that would possibly adjust the game even more for the creation of Chrono Break XD

And before saying anything I`ll wait and see how cel shaded games will look at PS3... Although I think that cel shading probably has some serious limitations to it...
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: knightx on February 20, 2006, 10:56:28 am
true all the things left unsaid or done could finally be addressed in a remake.thought this has bugged me 4 awhile and someone might have posted and answer long before i joined but if el nindo was a resulte of the chronopolis being sent back in time why didn't anyone ever talk about it in trigger? i know that sounds stupid but it just bugges the hell outta me.
Sorry if  the answer 2 my question was posted already.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: Chrono'99 on February 20, 2006, 11:53:50 am
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true all the things left unsaid or done could finally be addressed in a remake.thought this has bugged me 4 awhile and someone might have posted and answer long before i joined but if el nindo was a resulte of the chronopolis being sent back in time why didn't anyone ever talk about it in trigger? i know that sounds stupid but it just bugges the hell outta me.
Sorry if  the answer 2 my question was posted already.

Because Chronopolis doesn't exist until you defeat Lavos (the villagers might begin to speak about El Nido after the game, and Crono and co. would go "WTF is El Nido?!").
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: knightx on February 21, 2006, 02:29:47 am
ok thanks just need that cleared up.
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: UraRenge on February 24, 2006, 04:18:03 am
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Your wrong.  In Trigger, you Trigger a major change in time, Lavos' defeat.  That the consept of CT.  In Cross, you Cross dimensions.  Thats its consept.  It will be the same with Brake/Break.  Sure, there were objects called the Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, but thats hardly relavant to what were saying.

If it goes like that, then I wonder what it would be a Brake/Break of?

Ya know, just because the rules of time travel never applied during Chrono Trigger, it doesn't mean that the heroes would get off scoff-free.  I always figured that in Break/Brake, the repercussions of time-traveling would start affecting the world (ya know, in the negative ways that the game decided wouldn't happen), and you have to back in time (again) to set things right.

If that turns out to be the plot (or somewhere along this), then would Crono and the gang have to kill their past selves (with the possible exception of Magus, since he was an optional character) in order to keep them from killing Lavos and changing history, even though it would cause them to cease to exist?  It would be wierd to have a final battle in which you are fighting to stop the thing you originally believed was right (then again, Golden Sun did the same thing, cept without the time-travel)
Title: if chrono break ever existed...
Post by: AuraTwilight on February 24, 2006, 06:38:40 pm
Um...Chrono Trigger did go by the laws of Time Travel, and Chrono Cross was the adventure of cleaning up Chrono Trigger's messes.