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Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hadriel on October 06, 2005, 04:07:27 pm
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I'm bored. We should have an argument about the planets that the various Final Fantasies take place on.
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I'm bored. We should have an argument about the planets that the various Final Fantasies take place on.
OK. Did FFV take place on one planet, two, or three? Arguments can be made for all of them IMO.
(and no, please don't pollute his thread here. I was just kidding. If you really wanna discuss it, DO make a new thread. Personally I think that'd be a GREAT topic.)
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I never played V, so hell if I know.
One thing I wish they'd stop doing is referencing Terran culture when the planet is clearly not Earth. There is precisely ONE instance of that that I'll let slide, and that was Tidus' Macarena crack in FFX; that made me laugh so hard I almost wet myself. They're very careful not to do that in science fiction that doesn't involve Earth; Battlestar Galactica, for example, has few references to the culture of Earth, simply because that's the planet they're trying to find. Star Wars has basically no references at all to anything that originated here, except stuff that's deliberately placed in as an easter egg.
All the crests and sigils in X were named after the other planets in our solar system. Why is that, exactly, if it's supposed to be a different planet? That really grinds my gears. In IV, FuSoYa refers to the planet they're on as Earth, and postulates that the moon is a recent creation. Analysis of material from the moon shows us otherwise. Postulating that the aliens messed with it is like saying the Flying Spaghetti Monster is screwing around with math. I personally hold that VII takes place here, far in the future, or at least in some kind of alternate history that is also physically here.
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On the FF4 comment, is it possible that their Earth isn't our Earth? Earth has come to mean the planet we live on. For example, even dirt can be called Earth. Just because they call it "Earth" doesn't mean that they are called it our Earth.
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They capitalized it though, and FuSoYa said something about Mars and Jupiter. So yeah, an alternate Earth is a possibility for many if not most of the games. There's this one Square publication that called FFVII's world Gaia, but that means Earth. Actually, so does Terra. They should just start naming their planets something completely different, like...uh...Shrooms.
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Now here is a debate I can sink my teeth into. Though a topic split would be divine (mods/admins, I’m looking in your direction…)
From what I remember of FF IV, FuSoYa said that he Lunarain Moon was the recent addition. The other, more normal one was there when the Lunarians got to ‘Earth’. They then constructed the false one and said, “Man, I’m beat! Lets take a nap!” But Zemus threw a tantrum fit and was all like, “But I don’t wanna take nap!” So FuSoYa sent him to bed without supper and he was screaming “I HATE YOU!” all the way to the Core. Thus, all the events of FF IV could have been averted if they had just slipped the crybaby some sleeping pills* and called it a night.
The point I’m trying to make (in a roundabout, humorous way) is that only one moon was “new”. And after the events of the game, that moon left to parts unknown (Final Fantasy IV-2 anyone?) under its own power. Never mind the colossal damage that would have caused to the other moon and to the Earth as the Lunarian Moon broke orbit and started throwing its gravity around all will-nily.
*The Great Silvercry does not advocate the practice of giving crying children sleeping pills. Please don’t send CPS to his house to check on his daughter.
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Now here is a debate I can sink my teeth into. Though a topic split would be divine (mods/admins, I’m looking in your direction…)
I agree.
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Hadriels question wat FF in general, not ffv only :shock:
So, it may sound offtopic, so sue me. Terra in FF9 (i love that game), is that just some random planet, or is it a clone of Gaia? Its people are just soul vessels, so it cant be a normal planet. I havent played it in ages, and im not playing it again, because last time i played for 96 hours, adn the chocobo side quest was soooo long, but it was what made me win.
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Heh, that's nothing. My friend played FFX for 164 hours. I was lazy, so after I got to Sin I just used his file to kick the shit out of Jecht and Yevon. In his file, every character did 99,999 damage per hit. Yep, you read that right.
I wanted to hug Yuna and tell her it'd be OK. And then make love to her relentlessly until I die of asphyxiation.
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Hadriels question wat FF in general, not ffv only :shock:
So, it may sound offtopic, so sue me. Terra in FF9 (i love that game), is that just some random planet, or is it a clone of Gaia? Its people are just soul vessels, so it cant be a normal planet. I havent played it in ages, and im not playing it again, because last time i played for 96 hours, adn the chocobo side quest was soooo long, but it was what made me win.
It was something like a planet in another dimension. If you remember, they took the Hildegarde III through the shimmering island, and kind of warped there. It was used as a place for the "souless vessels" to stay.
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Oh yeah thanx
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What about Sephiroth's Supernova attack? it shows a meteor destroying all the planets of the solar system (clearly seen and named Pluton, Neptune, Uranus, etc.)...
I've heard the attack is different in the Japanese version though. I'm sure it was less dumb.
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What about Sephiroth's Supernova attack? it shows a meteor destroying all the planets of the solar system (clearly seen and named Pluton, Neptune, Uranus, etc.)...
I've heard the attack is different in the Japanese version though. I'm sure it was less dumb.
In the original Japanese version, it was only a gravity-based attack. The special animation was added to the English version. Supernova still only reduces hp to a certain percentage.
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In fact, I think Gaia is more like a clone of Terra. Thus all of Garland's plans of merging the Planets. I mean, in Oeilvert and Memoria you see both worlds, and they're exactly the same size. And then we have the Genomes' resemblence to humans, which is probably due to the idea they were based off of humans... Making Terra's population at least somewhat human.
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It's pretty clear that the English version of Supernova is some kind of an illusion, seeing as he can do it repeatedly.
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Ahh, I was wondering about this the other day myself.
For the most part, I'm content to accept the possibility that the worlds in Final Fantasy are simply altrernate realities from our own, or in some cases, our very same planet in the far distant future.
What would be interesting, is that, if each Final Fantasy was based on the very same planet, at far different times from each other.
If you wanted to put each Final Fantasy on the same timeline, what order would you put them in, in order of past to future?
I'd probably go: FFI, II, III, IV, V, VI, IX, VII, VIII, X; mostly based on the technology and level of civilization and culture present in the game.
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Hmm... Based on technology and on FF's I've played... I'd say...
FF I, FF II, FF III, FF IX, FF V, FF VI, FF X, FF VII, FF VIII.
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I don't think its even possible to say they are on the same world...
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I don't think its even possible to say they are on the same world...
Especially with the complete destruction of Magic at the end of FFVI.
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Yeah, but it's still fun to do these kinds of things.
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Yeah, its like those "Ryu Hayabusa vs Dante", "Prince vs Ryu", "Anakin vs Leia" and "Kasumi vs Jin" arguments. And "Mac vs Windows"...wait, no there is a clear winner there ^_^
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And "Mac vs Windows"...wait, no there is a clear winner there ^_^
Windows
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Macs suck.
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Macs suck.
Damn right they suck!
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Windows isn't all that good, either. It can crash as easily as a one winged air-plane. And almost as quickly.
Macs are bad because there's hardly any software that supports them. Almost everything is either Linux or Windows. So the argument can go on either compatibiliy or stability. Windows could win one but lose another.
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For hosting game servers, Linux takes the cake I believe...
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For hosting game servers, Linux takes the cake I believe...
For hosting servers in general, and system recovery. Also, price. Windows is by far and away better at gaming and multimedia, however.
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Yeah, its like those "Ryu Hayabusa vs Dante", "Prince vs Ryu", "Anakin vs Leia" and "Kasumi vs Jin" arguments. And "Mac vs Windows"...wait, no there is a clear winner there ^_^
Damn you. Why did you have to so derail this topic with a single line?
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one winged air-plane
VENI VENI VENIAS, NE ME MORI FACIAS
VENI VENI VENIAS, NE ME MORI FACIAS!
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one winged air-plane
VENI VENI VENIAS, NE ME MORI FACIAS
VENI VENI VENIAS, NE ME MORI FACIAS!
Could someone explain why that song is called "One-Winged Angel"? Safer Sephiroth is a seven-winged angel, not one...
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one winged air-plane
VENI VENI VENIAS, NE ME MORI FACIAS
VENI VENI VENIAS, NE ME MORI FACIAS!
Could someone explain why that song is called "One-Winged Angel"? Safer Sephiroth is a seven-winged angel, not one...
Meh, it's just a cool song.
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Might have something to do with that FREAKIN' HUGE WING-SHAPED BLADE HE HAS INSTEAD OF AN ARM!!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneone.
Pop quiz (on topic): The Powers That Be (however you envision or name them) offers you chance to live in the FF word of your choosing. Which one do you pick, and why?
(Yes, this is a thinly veiled way to ask: Which FF world is the best? So sue me.)
As for me, I'd have to go with the world of Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction system offers limitless combinations of power and skill, after 6 years in the Army, going out for SeeD should be a cake, and the gunblade is an idea who's time has come. Plus Triple Triad is the only post-VII FF mini-game that's actually fun to play.
Then again, Vana-diel looks nice... but I'd probably die in like the first 15 minutes....
Who's' next?
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Me, I would like to live in Final Fantasy IX. It's places are just so fun to walk around. Plus Beatrix. :P :D :D :P
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Why is Sephiroth called "One Winged Angel"? As far as I know, in Kingdom Hearts, he has one, black, angel wing. Cloud apparently has the other.
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FF9 all the way! What about the ff9 mini card game? The ff8 card game is only good for card modding (i modded ALL my rare cards...all of them) Too bad you dont see much of Beatrix...but there is Lani...hehehe *nosebleed* and of course Frey- ignore that
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FFIX's card game is annoying and pointless. At least with FFVIII's you got something out of it.
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I never liked any of the Card games. Waste of time. I'd rather be out there killing innocent animals, and then stripping their corpes for money.
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I liked FFVIII's card game until the point where the Random rule appeared :x
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I'd rather be out there killing innocent animals, and then stripping their corpes for money.
Too bad you didn't get any money from enemies. :x
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Safer Sephy-chan has six itty-bitty wings and one massive one. What bothers me is why they named him Safer Sephiroth. There really isn't anything safe about him; he demonstrably has a shockingly poor sense of fire safety.
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Safer Sephy-chan has six itty-bitty wings and one massive one. What bothers me is why they named him Safer Sephiroth. There really isn't anything safe about him; he demonstrably has a shockingly poor sense of fire safety.
It's a poor translation of his name. It should be Sepher Sephiroth, or something like that.
Found it his name is a mistranslation from Seraph Sephiroth.
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I'd rather be out there killing innocent animals, and then stripping their corpes for money.
Too bad you didn't get any money from enemies. :x
You do in FF9.
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I would pick the universe of FFIX to live in as well. I like the idea of main modes of xportation being mini-flying ships. I'm somewhat of s sucker for "medieval" settins of castles and their surrounding areas as well.
Edit: damnit, I'm Pierre.
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But ff8 has the machine made god (donnie darko "deus ex machina" reference is impossible to resist!) ragnarok