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How did FATE killing Serge disable the Prometheus circuit?
Beach Bum:
Never really thought about that, but why would it disable the Prometheus circuit? The Prometheus circuit was built so that once Serge made contact with the Frozen Flame, the circuit would activate and block access from anyone who's not Serge. If that's true, then why would simply killing Serge disable it? We're talking about technology, its programming wouldn't magically change even if it could somehow sense that Serge had died.
Or are we to assume that Wazuki drowned Serge and then dragged his 7 year old corpse back to Chronopolis to unlock the Flame?
Razig:
I always figured the circuit could indeed remotely detect the Arbiter's status somehow, perhaps by monitoring changes in the Frozen Flame. FATE logically (but incorrectly) assumed that the lock would reset if the Arbiter were to die, because otherwise the Flame would be sealed away forever, and what purpose would that serve? But that turned out to be precisely the case after all, despite not making much sense at the time.
Still... Murdering a seven-year-old child? FATE couldn't simply kidnap him, make him open the door and delete the Prometheus circuit, then send him home brainwashed into thinking he'd been out getting ice cream? But I guess we wouldn't have a game that way.
What I find curious is that FATE couldn't simply cut through the door or wall of the Flame's chamber. Maybe there was another hidden protocol that prevented it from causing property damage to Chronopolis?
Beach Bum:
Dunno about that, I feel like it would still be possible to utilize the Frozen Flame if a new arbiter came in contact with it. The only thing that would happen is, all access to it would be restricted because of the Prometheus circuit. The Flame itself should be able to detect if its arbiter dies; the Prometheus circuit, seems less likely.
I feel like the restrictions on the Frozen Flame are not just concerning the door to the room it's in. There's like 100 mechanical thingies poking at the Flame, which I assume is how they control and operate it. Those are probably disabled until the Arbiter is verified.
Sheiken:
Killing Serge did not break the seal on the Frozen Flame. It was ASSUMED that killing Serge would give FATE access again, but ended up being false. This is also why Lucca needed to be kidnapped, so FATE could use her to break the seal. This also did not pan out. Later FATE would decide that Serge would eventually travel between Dimensions, and FATE would just steal his identity through Lynx instead.
I am about to do Chronopolis on New Gane Plus today, I will put a fresh pair of eyes on the dialogue and see if I notice anything outside of that.
Beach Bum:
--- Quote from: Sheiken on February 21, 2020, 05:19:34 am ---Killing Serge did not break the seal on the Frozen Flame. It was ASSUMED that killing Serge would give FATE access again, but ended up being false. This is also why Lucca needed to be kidnapped, so FATE could use her to break the seal. This also did not pan out. Later FATE would decide that Serge would eventually travel between Dimensions, and FATE would just steal his identity through Lynx instead.
I am about to do Chronopolis on New Gane Plus today, I will put a fresh pair of eyes on the dialogue and see if I notice anything outside of that.
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I thought it failed because Kid went back in time and saved Serge, who retained his status as arbiter across dimensions. If she hadn't done that, would it have worked? Another World was the original timeline, did it have a future where FATE regained access to the Flame by killing Serge and thus kidnapping Lucca wasn't necessary?
Actually... There's something off about all this... That being Kid. The Kid we encounter from the game is from Another World, the main timeline. In 1020 AD, she travels through time and dimensions to save Serge in Home World. But before she does that, in the main timeline, Wazuki successfully drowns Serge in 1010 AD, presumably unlocking access to the Flame, and so there was no need to go kidnap Lucca. And that means no burned down orphanage, no dead Lucca, no traumatized Kid. So how come Kid is the person she is even before she saves Serge?
This is confusing.
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