Chrono Compendium
Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => Polling => Topic started by: ZeaLitY on March 05, 2006, 05:17:00 pm
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What's next for the Chrono Compendium? The encyclopedia is done, affording the largest collection and indulgence of Chrono series information ever achieved. Similarly, analysis is also finished for six months, at the end of which a review shall take place and the theory section shall be updated. Now that these are out of the way, what ideas should the site pursue next?
Please note that some options already addressed and taken under review include
-Appearance update
-Spreading the news of the site and our completion
Also, when I say "regular fans" and Temporal Flux, I mean to speak of people who are interested in making a modification but otherwise do not have the time and drive to simply learn the program. Temporal Flux really isn't that hard, but tutorials might open it up to a wider range of fans.
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A robust Rom Hacking community is the key to our success.
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Everything we can do to expand and nurture the community. Fan art, fan fiction, rom hacking. We need to become the hub for fan projects.
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Rom hacking all the way.
Also, it would be probably really difficult and slow to do but "bridging the gap" between the English and Japanese fandoms would be awesome. I bet the Japanese fans know a hell lot of things that we don't about the series. And they're the ones with 90% of all the fanarts... I guess it's just unfeasable though, there just aren't enough "spokemans" and bilinguals.
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...well, I may be overgeneralizing here, but Japanse people on the Internet tend to transform into reactionary militarist who constantly whine about how US "disturbed Japan's isolationism" and how foreigners don't surrender their human rights to the superior Japanese race. (Example: 2ch.) Most of the encoutner between English-speaking fandoms and Japanese fandoms have led to "omgwtf English!! That must be American, because only Americans are people that matter who speak English!!!1 GTFO WARMONGERERS JAPANESE ONLY."
I know this may not be true to every Japanese people, but records and expriences tell me this is very, very likely. Some people might have a good reason to not like foreigners on their websites (such as bandwidth and etc.) but I don't think most of those people have a good reason >_>.
Apologies if this post offended you... but this is a sad reality for now.
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I did fanart and whatnot, because I like seeing other people's interpretations of various things.
Although, I think the main page should be remade. Everything could be a hell of a lot easier to navigate through, right now it seems to be too much of a random mess.
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Yeah, that's in progress right now.
I can probably compose more Temporal Flux tutorials that will cover easy stuff. I an incapable of writing one on making a Gate, however; perhaps DivineDragoonKain can help with that.
I think the Chrono Break option can become a possibility once we have a definitive, large increase in popularity. It'd be better to start a campaign with thousands ready to help rather than try to keep it going right now.
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Also, when I say "regular fans" and Temporal Flux, I mean to speak of people who are interested in making a modification but otherwise do not have the time and drive to simply learn the program. Temporal Flux really isn't that hard, but tutorials might open it up to a wider range of fans.
I would like to see some Temporal Flux stuff and some rom hackz. I have some ideas that I would like to put in the game, but I do not know where to start.
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...well, I may be overgeneralizing here, but Japanse people on the Internet tend to transform into reactionary militarist who constantly whine about how US "disturbed Japan's isolationism" and how foreigners don't surrender their human rights to the superior Japanese race. (Example: 2ch.) Most of the encoutner between English-speaking fandoms and Japanese fandoms have led to "omgwtf English!! That must be American, because only Americans are people that matter who speak English!!!1 GTFO WARMONGERERS JAPANESE ONLY."
I know this may not be true to every Japanese people, but records and expriences tell me this is very, very likely. Some people might have a good reason to not like foreigners on their websites (such as bandwidth and etc.) but I don't think most of those people have a good reason >_>.
Apologies if this post offended you... but this is a sad reality for now.
No offense taken (I'm French so...). I was thinking something like that anyway, since there must be a reason how no experience was successful in 10 years.
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We need a military coup. Yeah. A coup. A military coup. We'll take over Square. Yeah. Square Enix. Then we'll *makes chopping actions* hack into the rom, and we'll do, um, do crazy, no CRAZY STUFF with the rom.
Nah, seriously, more community work. Fan art, fanfics (oh god, no more Lucca/Marle lemons, please!) fanmusic and home made swords. And even MORE analysis.
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Chrono Break is the best I can think of.
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I think tutorials would be great for TF but also simple explanations of what everything is and what those things can do. Just looking at it and trying to understand what everything does is kind of confusing for me since I don't have any background with anything like that.
Another problem I have is a lack of ideas. Maybe a short list of ideas that would be cool but also semi easy for the newer TF users.
Perhaps a program with all the information we've gotten so far would be useful?
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About the foreign community stuff:
Since most members of these fanbases are still kids(in their behavior), there will always be these kind of experience. It's all because of this childish prejudices, but there is nearly no way to prevent them except thinking.
But there are also many people who want to share the game with other people, and some, for example me, find nearly no fora or whatever else in their mother language, so they try looking for some in "more popular" languages(with success, as you see).
I bet there are many Japanese fans who would want to work with an english community, but it's not always possible.
As for the topic, why just working in one part? I mean the people skilled with TF can make more TF Tutorials(maybe easier ones), and some may take the fanstuff section or whatever.
Giving people a bigger range of possibilities makes them want to be part of the community, but even without this range, who doesn't want to be?
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I voted TF and rom hacking (mwaha!), but I would love to see Fanart/Fanfiction contests also! As stated in other replys, the Chrono Break idea is good, but I doubt this site, at it's present size, is big enough for such an endevour quite yet. Perhaps when we've amassed zee hoards! :evil:
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I think we need a Wikipedia entry. I can't believe we don't even have one yet!
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There is a Lucca`s porn alternative missing in that poll...
Hahahaha
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Its coming man. Its coming.
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This is probably the single BEST thing to do in terms of accomplishing the first option as to the issue of your "next big thing." So many people, even professors that I've had in the past, are refering others to wikipedia to introduce a new interest. Homestarrunner.com has a whole wikipedia to itself. There is no reason why, what with all the information on this website, the people who run this site should not be able to convince the wikipedia people (or whatever it takes to make one of those) to make a "CHRONO WIKI" or "CHRONO COMPENDIUM WIKI" or whatever would make sense.
In any case, I would cast my vote for this alternative. Good luck!
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Fanart/Fanfiction since there is no chance for CB by simply mustering out forces. Square Enix has turned into a money hungry corperation, and doesn't really care about their consumers anymore. Aslong as they're stupid enough to buy Dragon Quest XXXXX or FF XXXXX, they'll keep making them and ignore other stuff.
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Aslong as they're stupid enough to buy Dragon Quest XXXXX or FF XXXXX, they'll keep making them and ignore other stuff.
That's precisely the kind of statements that I think is non-sense. What's the problem with DQ and FF, Square and Enix have always produced new episodes for those 2 franchises, there's nothing different about this fact now than before (before what?). Why do you focus your critics on DQ and FF? How is Square Enix "ignoring other stuff" when it produced all the following games that aren't DQ and FF-related:
Grandia III
Star Ocean 3
Front Mission 4 and 5
Valkyrie Profile 2 and DS
Seiken Densetsu 4 and DS
Drakengard 1 and 2
Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song (even though we all know that the SaGa series is crap)
Musashi Samurai Legend
Radiata Stories
Itadaki Street whatever (even though this series is Japanese-only)
etc.
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Plus "ignoring" may be a good thing, in the long run. Square-Enix is more than aware of how popular the Chrono Series is (moreso in the states, but whatever). However, I don't want a new one every two years. Dishing them out that fast would completly destroy the entire series. However, tere is somewhat of a limit. There's no news of a third game yet, and something this massive would take at LEAST 3 years after announcement of it. So, its entirely possible that even IF we do get one, it won't be until about 10 years after Cross was released.
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Yes, this evil corporation talk is bogus. Fans want Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, ESPECIALLY in Japan. So Square Enix dishes out Final Fantasy and DQ. To those games' fans, we are comparatively a minority.
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Yeah, and there's really nothing "evil" about a corporation that's out to make money. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but money is the bottom line, always has been the bottom line, and will always continue to be the bottom line. When they made Chrono Trigger, believe it or not, they did it to make money. That's the existence of a corporation for ya. The sooner you can live with that reality, the more at peace ye shall be. :D
Anyway, I think the focus of the Compendium should be the total revival of the series. Look at the Novel Project and the CT Remake Petition and other great projects like these and tell me what you see. Personally, I see efforts centered around the desire to revive this series and keep its legacy and story alive.
So, if you ask me what the emphasis should be on, it should be on whatever it takes to revive the series--not just with those of us who have stayed with it over the years, but also with those who have moved on to newer titles.
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Yeah, and there's really nothing "evil" about a corporation that's out to make money. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but money is the bottom line, always has been the bottom line, and will always continue to be the bottom line. When they made Chrono Trigger, believe it or not, they did it to make money. That's the existence of a corporation for ya. The sooner you can live with that reality, the more at peace ye shall be. :D
Sad but true... :roll:
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I think Square-Enix has enough on their hands. I highly doubt that we will ever get a Chrono Break. We've already been waiting for years for any word. To say that they don't listen to their fans is bogus. The Chrono community I would think isn't NEARLY as large as Final Fantasy communities. That's why there's so many FF games - because the fans like them more then Chrono.
The only way we can get a CB is to expand the community vastly. Right now, I'd like to see much more ROM hacking content. Tutorials would be wonderful. I think fan fiction and art is the second most important, followed by Chrono Break buisness. Wikipedia could certaintly help the community grow, too. :)
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I believe we are going to see Chrono Break some day. They are releasing a lot of games that I'm sure they have smallest communities.
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They are releasing a lot of games that I'm sure they have smallest communities.
Yeah that's true as well...
I mean, by simply having "Chrono" on its name a new Chrono game would most likely sell more than like Drakengard, FMA and other today's SE titles....
So even if we keep a comercial-only view of the subject, still it would be good for SE...
And well, SE is likely to gather all it can in order to make the game not only a comercial one, but a success in all aspects and this way gaining a lot more money :lol:
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I think Square-Enix has enough on their hands.
Umm, sorry about the ignorace...but what? Most of their games they can finish quickly, since it will definetely sell on name. Chrono, no matter what people think, is quite niche, due to the lack of Squeenix support. Well, I personally like it that way, and I hope that CB is the last of the Chronos.
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if they even make CB
which I hope they do . . . they could do so much
i wish not to stir up rumors, but i heard something about the new Chrono game released on PS3
don't get me wrong, it's hard to believe . . . but i am not giving up hope
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Don't worry dude, I believe you! Oh, and bye the way *starts whispering* I heard, and you didn't hear this from me, that Square Enix are moving Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest to Xbox 360!
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So the date of the poll is 3/18... it was posted a week ago... and its currently the 13th... Did you mean to post 3/8 instead maybe?
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A robust Rom Hacking community is the key to our success.
Yep. Well, except for the word "the." I think that it'll give us something unique and marketable to the broader Chrono community.
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Don't worry dude, I believe you! Oh, and bye the way *starts whispering* I heard, and you didn't hear this from me, that Square Enix are moving Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest to Xbox 360!
...*Vader no*
Anyways, more analysis FTW! *shot*
uh...I'm divided between Chrono Break and Temporal Freeze (that is a rom hacking app, right?).
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I voted fanfiction and the lot because I'm more involved with those things as opposed to ROM hacking...but i believe that Temporal Flux is the way of the future. The ability to create good ROM hacks of Chrono Trigger will definately gain more interest than any fanfiction anyone could write.
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it would be awesome to have everyone combine ideas for the possible sequel to Squares Chrono Cross
we could all think up amazing ideas of, how to start it off, and how it would end
MORE techs, specially duels and triples for a numorous amount of characters
i voted for the Chrono Break research because this series is incredibly good, and with the amazing minds on this board, we could most definately come up with something worthwhile for Square
. . . that is, if Square would even READ the a letter, they are probably sick of us fans trying to ressurect something that could already be possibly dead
i won't giv up hope . . . i am writing a letter to the headquarters in Japan very soon in the upcoming weeks
*note* I was going to send the 1 ZeaLITY had up on the Chrono Break page, but suggestions as to what to put in the letter would be a possibility from all.
send me a PM if ur interested after I am finished wit Zealy
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This is probably the single BEST thing to do in terms of accomplishing the first option as to the issue of your "next big thing." So many people, even professors that I've had in the past, are refering others to wikipedia to introduce a new interest. Homestarrunner.com has a whole wikipedia to itself. There is no reason why, what with all the information on this website, the people who run this site should not be able to convince the wikipedia people (or whatever it takes to make one of those) to make a "CHRONO WIKI" or "CHRONO COMPENDIUM WIKI" or whatever would make sense.
In any case, I would cast my vote for this alternative. Good luck!
The site is a wiki. We use the same software Wikipedia does, except we run a closed editorial system that prevents anonymous users from making changes or registering new wiki accounts.
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Hopefully CB isn't going to be this giant flop filled with emo/metro guys and infinitely weaker gals. Too bad it is. Unless another internal studio makes it. But not the FF:CC one. God, please, no.
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Temporal Flux and ROM hacking. That would be awesome