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Enhasa Halls - Chrono Series Analysis => Chrono Trigger DS Analysis => Topic started by: FaustWolf on January 01, 2009, 04:03:21 pm
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http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24237
Are there any more reliable sources for sales figures out there?
How do you guys think it's doing? The World Ends With You, by contrast, has only sold .34 million -- though Japanese sales aren't factored into that number so it's really difficult to compare how CT:DS is faring against competitors.
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I really hope they getting newcomers not just old fans of the series, unfortunately that not something you can easily check.
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And in comparison, http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=13437®ion=All, Final Fantasy IV for the DS has sold 1.04 million and has been out for quite a while. And The World Ends With You has also been out quite a bit longer than CTDS. .71 million copies for CTDS, that's amazing. And its first week of sales is just phenomenal.
Good find, man, I've been looking for this for a while.
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Thanks for the FFIV comparison, fascinating. It's doing pretty well then!
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Indeed it is! And just look at it, FFIV has been out in America since 07/22/08 and has sold .37 million copies, while CT has been out in America since 11/25/08 and has sold .29 million copies! Even with a four month head start, FFIV leads by less than .1 million. And unlike the games we've compared it to, CTDS is due for a release in Europe in February. I honestly believe its sales figures are going to be stellar.
This topic's made me so damn giddy.
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Nice, seems it's doing really well. I'm eager to see how CTDS fares in Europe...
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I'd certainly like to think Square Enix is testing the waters here. Kato and Mitsuda teamed up for Sands of Destruction already, so a Dream Team alignment is still possible...though by "Dream Team" I really just mean Kato and Mitsuda. :D
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Right, Faust, I agree. I've been hoping since announcement that CT:DS was just paving the way for another Chrono game.
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I think you also have to factor in the fact that FFIV has gotten, what? 4? 5? Previous releases. Chrono Trigger's only had two (including original release).
I'd certainly like to think Square Enix is testing the waters here. Kato and Mitsuda teamed up for Sands of Destruction already, so a Dream Team alignment is still possible...though by "Dream Team" I really just mean Kato and Mitsuda. :D
Don't you mean World Destruction?
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Dragon Quest IV DS sold 90k copies in North America and 140k copies in Europe (both versions were released in September 2008), so if this is any indication for CT DS, we might be in for a nice surprise.
Don't you mean World Destruction?
The game got a new title for the English version (in addition to Mitsuda expanding the soundtrack and the developers tweaking the gameplay difficulty).
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Good find, man, I've been looking for this for a while.
.... I've been using this sites for weeks. I would have posted the link had I known it was a secret.
In any case, what do you suppose could happen if this port manages to sell over a million, or even 2 million units? It might just force them to make another sequel, or maybe they already have one in mind :) .
I'd certainly like to think Square Enix is testing the waters here. Kato and Mitsuda teamed up for Sands of Destruction already, so a Dream Team alignment is still possible...though by "Dream Team" I really just mean Kato and Mitsuda. :D
Psh, are you going to denied the selling power of Akira Toriyama because of some grudge you have on forums? For shame, I thought you wanted this series to do well :( .
Although if they have Nobuteru giant robots, that would be awesome too :p .
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I wrote in another thread I happen to prefer Toriyama's basic character designs over Yuuki's, so I wouldn't mind. Though, if I really had a choice in the matter I'd pick either Senri Kita (recent Fire Emblem games) or Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II, III) for the artwork. I'd really like to see someone re-interpret characters designed by Toriyama.
EDIT: Wait, scratch that -- either the Valkyrie Profile artist or whoever did the character art for Drakengard II. Delish.
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I wrote in another thread I happen to prefer Toriyama's basic character designs over Yuuki's, so I wouldn't mind. Though, if I really had a choice in the matter I'd pick either Senri Kita (recent Fire Emblem games) or Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II, III) for the artwork. I'd really like to see someone re-interpret characters designed by Toriyama.
EDIT: Wait, scratch that -- either the Valkyrie Profile artist or whoever did the character art for Drakengard II. Delish.
I see....
As long as they avoid this we should all be fine. :lol:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/12/squenix-character-design.jpg)
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Ha! That's probably why I didn't suggest Tetsuya Nomura, though I do adore his art as well.
Come to think of it though, I really wouldn't mind seeing Dalton in a luxurious Porrean-tailored trenchcoat in Chrono Break. You see, he'd have a trenchcoat and an eyepatch, and that makes it...new.
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Ha! That's probably why I didn't suggest Tetsuya Nomura, though I do adore his art as well.
Come to think of it though, I really wouldn't mind seeing Dalton in a luxurious Porrean-tailored trenchcoat in Chrono Break. You see, he'd have a trenchcoat and an eyepatch, and that makes it...new.
Dalton in an eyepatch would look... strange. Wouldn't be the worst thing they could do with him though.
...for some reason I just had the image of Flea giving Dalton a 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy' style makeover. My brain just exploded, excuse me while I cleanup the pieces...
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Um, Dalton already has an eyepatch, Zerg...
(http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/thumb/d/d2/Dalton.jpg/250px-Dalton.jpg)
I want there to be a laser behind that eyepatch, personally. If they can make Grobyc, they can give Dalton a laser eye.
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I'm really looking forward to the sales numbers in Europe.
It's still a shame that the game is released 3 months after both the US and the japanese releases, hopefully that will not have a major impact on the sales of the PAL territory.
It will be a great emotion to finally see a Chrono game in my games store, 6 years that I've awaited for this day.
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Um, Dalton already has an eyepatch, Zerg...
(http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/thumb/d/d2/Dalton.jpg/250px-Dalton.jpg)
I want there to be a laser behind that eyepatch, personally. If they can make Grobyc, they can give Dalton a laser eye.
Son of a... o.o how the heck did I never notice that before? Learn something knew everyday. Ignore my comment then.
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You know, if the creators went with the Valkyrie approach, Dalton could insert a fake eyeball into his socket every now and then. Though he would look at you funny. His "lazy eye" effect may be what distracted the last defender of Guardia long enough for Dalton to pierce Guardia's last defense.
My apologies to anyone who's reading this with a glass eye.
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My apologies to anyone who's reading this with a glass eye.
Don't worry, you can't read with a glass eye...Unless you were trying to use it as a magnifying glass...?
But, anyways, that glass eyeball trick sounds way too advanced for Mr. "Look-over-there!"...>_>
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Ha! That's probably why I didn't suggest Tetsuya Nomura, though I do adore his art as well.
Come to think of it though, I really wouldn't mind seeing Dalton in a luxurious Porrean-tailored trenchcoat in Chrono Break. You see, he'd have a trenchcoat and an eyepatch, and that makes it...new.
His eye patch would have a diamond encrusted on it, with a 24k gold strap. With the side possibility of shooting lasers.
Soldier: "Dalton Sir, I come with bad news"
Dalton: "YOU HAVE FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME!" <shuuww>
Soldier:"AHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
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Now I'm imagining Dalton's voice is the same as Skeletor or Megatron...! >_>
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Now I'm imagining Dalton's voice is the same as Skeletor or Megatron...! >_>
That would be AWESOME!
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(http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/thumb/d/d2/Dalton.jpg/250px-Dalton.jpg)
I just want to know what Dalton is retardedly waving at in this OA. It will forever be a mystery.
Or maybe he just wants a hug?
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It looks like he's just moving his cape back to me...
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It looks like he's just moving his cape back to me...
Then he should consult with Magus on how to do it RIGHT.
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No no, he's doing jazz hands. He's a man of pizazz, doncha know.
I'm really looking forward to the sales numbers in Europe.
It's still a shame that the game is released 3 months after both the US and the japanese releases, hopefully that will not have a major impact on the sales of the PAL territory.
It will be a great emotion to finally see a Chrono game in my games store, 6 years that I've awaited for this day.
I hear ya, the fact that Europe's getting the CTDS port is such a great move--it's ridiculous how many games they miss out on. And the sales figures should just blast out of control after this. :>
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The site I listed hasn't been updated for ages, and no European numbers have been factored in. Anyone have a better source?
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I looked around, but I couldn't find a good source--most sites disregard Europe's sales or just list the .89 million figure...
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Europe's got such a huge market though...I sure hope Square Enix knows how much money it's making there at least. Europe may be our best hope for a new Chrono game if it does well enough there.
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It hasn't even been a month since CTDS came out in Europe, though...
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Now I'm imagining Dalton's voice is the same as Skeletor or Megatron...! >_>
"I Will cause the fall of Gaurdia, yes yes."
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Sad thing is, I would have taken Dalton more seriously had his line actually been that.
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Well I bought it! *chalks one on the board*
There have been double page spread adverts for it in games magazines etc, and being the first anticipated european release, I hope it flies off the shelves. This is reliving my childhood with loads of people discovering it! Great stuff!
It got really good scores from reviewers, 9/10s and 10/10s all over the shot, and has a 10/10 review sticker on the front of the box! :D
Im taking a little break, Im already 15 hours in. I wanna enjoy it, dont want it to end! I love the way its set up, altho I havent tried DS controls yet (and the first thing i did was change run to manual rather than automatic, much better the classic way).
=)
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Good to know it's getting lots of advertisement in Europe.
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Sad thing is, I would have taken Dalton more seriously had his line actually been that.
Mmh, who knows how his line was in the Japanese version? :?:
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No one seemed to have updated the european sales. Anyone knows where you can actually check that?
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I'm pretty sure I've said it in this very thread a couple times, lockgar...CTDS only came out in Europe earlier this month (February). Sales figures usually wait a bit to add up before they're released.
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The "Look over there!" trick actually worked. Look down upon Dalton all you want, but you have to look down further to the heroes. >_>
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The "Look over there!" trick actually worked. Look down upon Dalton all you want, but you have to look down further to the heroes. >_>
What are you talking about...? Did someone bring up that line? I believe ryu planeswalker & FW was talking about Dalton's DV line...
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I blame SE horrible Ad campaign. "Good Morning Crono!" That's it? Come on, where were the TV commercials. It definitely should have gotten more publicity than goddamn FFXII. It needed it more and was a much better game.
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I think it's probably difficult to gather money for advertising for the 2nd port of a game...
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Aye, it's downright unnecessary, since the game was virtually unchanged. Part of this comes back to whether SE wanted CTDS to lure in newcomers, or whether they were more after the diehard fans.
Although that's just TV commercials, didn't they do pretty well getting the word out in gaming magazines?
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But they didn't need to. They only needed one or two ads in magazines, because after all they were video game magazines.
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Right, but they got tons of reviews and things like that. And I'd think that was probably the easiest and cleanest way to reach their target demographic.
Anyways, I don't know much about their marketing strategy for CT--which is why I kinda look more towards the sales figures instead.
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I wonder how the sells are doing in Europe. :kamina
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Soldier: "Dalton Sir, I come with bad news"
Dalton: "YOU HAVE FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME!" <shuuww>
Soldier:"AHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
Now I'm imagining Dalton's voice is the same as Skeletor or Megatron...! >_>
Funny.....for me I'm hearing Darth Vader since he says that line word for word just about....lol
In any case I don't know when that site was last updated but if those numbers are recent then the Euro sales have been piss poor. Only 50K sold. The biggest complaint of Euro gamers on that website is that it's only avalible in English over there. I can see where that may hurt. In any case if those numbers do happen to be up to date then CTDS is only 100K shy of 1 million. In contrast any idea what the total sales of the original SNES version and the PSX versions were?
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http://gametab.com/news/2986872/
Pretty relevant. We got 4th on the sales of all games by Square, of course SOIV isn't out in Europe so.
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*wonders why SE is not impressed*
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Chrono Trigger DS: 790,000
The Last Remnant: 580,000
Square Enix president Yoichi Wada, on The Last Remnant: "It will be a Square Enix RPG for the world... [it will] become a cornerstone for our worldwide strategy." http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3159373
Corporate logic is just... :picardno
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Wow... Last Remnant has a huge budget, yet it failed. Yet Chrono Trigger DS sold more, despite being a port. I really don't get the logic of Square nowadays.
I think even The World Ends with You is getting a sequel and that didn't sell as much as CTDS. Granted, TWEWY is excellent, but I still question why Chrono is getting the shaft... unless there are employees who are against a Chrono sequel... until most of the team has been united.
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Yoichi Wada is a dick D: