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Bend of Time - Inactive Projects => Darkness Beyond Time - Dead Project Discussion => Project ZEAL => Topic started by: Symmetry on January 05, 2005, 01:07:48 am
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Hello everyone,
We expected participation in Project ZEAL to wane over the holidays, but now that the next semester is gearing up and schedules returning to normal, I'd like to get the fic moving again.
First of all, if you're reading this and are still participating, please post here and let us know.
Secondly, if you know anyone who might be interested in joining and that you think would make a good addition to the project, please invite them. It's definately not too late to join and really we're at a good point in the story for more heroes and heroines. (Or villians for that matter!)
Thirdly, I don't know how much planning everyone has done on the side, but I think it would be good to recap here where exactly your characters are going in the near future.
Hope to see everyone back on their creative feet soon!
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I'm still here, and about ready to roll. School starts next week, so in a week or so I should have a groove. I'm not really sure where Argus is going in the story at this point (other than the End of Time) and I'm a little unsure how that whole scene is being handled, so a recap would be nice.
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I'm here, just waiting for the next section to start up. I don't have any specific plans yet, aside from being at the End of Time.
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The Gamefaqs Cross board could probably be tapped for an author or two. Other than that, we could run an advertisement on Chronoshock.com or Chronicles again. Claado's coming back in a month as well.
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I believe this next scenario is going to start of with Gaspar giving a brief explanation of what's going on to the people gathered at the End of Time. From there I'd assume everyone is heading back to the Middle Ages - I think we tried to setup two subplots going at once awhile back, but the idea never seemed to catch on.
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I'm ready.
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I'm definitely still here as long as everyone else is. The holidays were actually the most opportune time for me to get work done on the project, but whatever.
As far as Garg goes, being a local and extremely useful as long as he isn't fully aware of what the bigger picture is, he won't be showing up at the End of Time. He's currently either on the ferry to or settling in Porre (600 A.D.), and in addition to studying law, he's already planning his own side projects to get back at Toma. If there is still a particularly long time before he is found and manipulated by Gaspar's Heroes, I may write one of these occurring (and, of course, failing).
Also, anyone who cares, there was a reason other than motivation for introducing the two characters I did in my previous episodes. They will become apparent later.
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I'm here, at least I assume I am. I have, at times, deceived myself on this point.
Anywy, I"m here and ready to get writing. Hopefully, I can get more done this semester than I did during the fall. Hopefully.
Anyway, as for my plans, my character Aias is entwined heavily with Symmetry's Sessimine, and other than that he's generally going to muck about in the Zealian waters. And that's all I'm gonna say, so nyaahhh.
(I apologize for any strange humour or oddness here. Too much Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy recently.)
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May 6, 2005.
Don't panic.
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The Gamefaqs Cross board could probably be tapped for an author or two. Other than that, we could run an advertisement on Chronoshock.com or Chronicles again. Claado's coming back in a month as well.
Or, you might want to check FF.net for people who've recently posted CT or CC fics.
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Obviously I'm still here, which could have gone without saying.
Sessi & Naomi are tied up with Aias and some interesting things are about to unfold there at the ball.
It just now occurred to me to ask whether or not anyone is interested writing for the "villians" of our fic - the Council members and their lackeys. I've introduced most of them (if not all) earlier in the fic, but other than one or two, nothing specific has been planned for the Council members there. If anyone's got an evil streak they're looking to indulge....
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Hi. I'm not really here. But hello anyways. Ciao.
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I'm sorta here...I think I'll get something stable soon...But I've said that a few times previous, huh?
:cry:
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(Posting this here because it doesn't quite warrant another thread and this is someone on-topic)
I'm wondering when this is going to progress. It looks like we have about all we need for the introductory section, so should we start up thread II?
The only loose end we really have is the end of the jailbreak sequence. I was planning to write in what happened there by Sigma telling the story in the End of Time. Perhaps we could start this thread with her telling this part of her story, followed by brief stories of those who weren't in Thread I. How does this sound?
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Sounds good to me. Although I'm for anything to end this slump and get the ball rolling on the EoT scene, and the project as a whole.
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One of my ambitions has been to set characters and the world of ZEAL up on Wiki pages for easier navigation. They would not be linked on the Main Page, which would keep general traffic away. My ZeaLitY_To_Do_List entry has hardly seen any traffic, and it has been up for awhile.
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I've haven't been present on the site much, or for that matter, online anywhere over the past week or so. I've had a number of other things to deal with, and I've been a little burnt-out on the whole, so I'm taking a wee bit of a hiatus for maybe another week.
I think the next scene that we need posted is ZeaLitY's Gaspar post and revelation of what all is at stake. When that's up Atrius, ZeaLitY, and I have scenes that are all-but ready to be submitted.
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I've never understood that expression, even though I've used it. "Anything but ready" means they weren't ready, yet "all but ready" means they are? I've been puzzled by this since childhood.
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Does it help to think of it as "everything but ready"?
Makes sense to me. X is pretty much complete, save a few minor loose ends. It's "all there", but just shy of being ready to present.
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Alright, I guess I'll hold off, then. Just don't make me wait too long.
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I've begun. http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/PZ
This will hopefully assist authors to a great degree by allowing quick referencing of information that otherwise might take digging or just be considered arbitrary. I'm starting with the World right now.
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Alright, I've added my characters into the list. I'd like to recommend the following outline format I used, for quick reference of stats:
Full Name: (If relevent)
Race: (Human, Demihuman, Mystic, ZEALian, etc.)
Age:
Weapon of Choice:
Elemental Proficiency: (Use CC format if they've been hanging out in El Nido and using elements; otherwise, use CT format)
Combat Strength: (Tier according to the chart. Most will be Tier 2, Keystonian Heros/Heroines. Weaker ones, like Sigma, will be Tier 1, Keystonian Citizens. The strongest, like Backer and Serian, will be Tier 3, Keystonian Legendary Heros/Heroines.)
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I'm here and working as fast as I can to have a character ready. Just been a touch busy, sorry
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http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/PZ_World should be done, except for stuff that we will add as we go along the story.
I completely forgot about something that needs to be done before we launch into the Story -- the scene in which Toma finds the Rainbow Shell thanks to Nanashi clearing the way in the Giant's Claw. Ybrik Metaknight originally wanted to do this; he's been leaning towards returning to his former presence here, so I'll ask if he wants to try his hand at it.
Edit: I also completely forgot that CTF might have wanted to do this, as Garg's involvement in this story arises from Toma's alleged "stealing" the shell from him.
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I just added Amy...and Kaeru, whom I had to create a new heading for as he's not from either Keystone or ZEAL...So, do we want like, every character on that? I just added my major characters (I saw someone already copy & pasted my Hunter for me), leaving out characters that won't eventually stick around for very long (all of my other Magness characters)...But as some of those characters (Gil & Flea at least) play quasi-large roles early on, perhaps I should add them all? Or just Gil & Flea perhaps?
Which characters should be included in this list? Or should it be all-composing?
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The litmus test for adding a character is, "Is someone else going to author this if I have to leave." Since those guys are on the way out, I'd say nah, but as Glenn will appear regularly as a hero, sure.
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I don't know if I can commit myself to writing any scene for this. I'm still very busy most of the time, and have several fanfics of my own to finish. If anyone else wants to write the Toma scene, go for it. One of my biggest problems is that I'd have to go through this entire Project Zeal forum to know what's going on with the larger story so that I could write the scene so that it fits in with everything. If someone wants to fill me in, I could maybe have time to write a brief scene, but at this point I can't do anything major.
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Just looked over the Wiki transfer and I think it works nicely. I'm not sure how to edit it as I've never done it myself, but if I searched around for a few minutes I think I could figure it out. I'll try and add the "stats" early this week.
I think if the character serves any major role whatsoever, they should be added to the Wiki. Remember when we talked about writing a "readers manual" for the Project? If we do a complete job here, we'll have most of that ready when the time comes to release it.
Hmm. I suspect that the Toma scene would be handled well by CTF, since he can tie that into Garg's storyline more easily (if he needs to any further) if he was writing it.
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Argus has been added to the character sheet.
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Symmetry: I recently filled in the "Editing Help" page in the Encyclopedia. It contains all the code you'll need. To get to it, just click the "Editing Help" link when editing a page.
About the Toma subplot: If CTF wants to write it, that's fine with me. I just want to make sure he makes at least a brief mention of Sigma.
On that note, once we have all the posts for the first thread done, we might want to consider reordering it for effect, spreading out posts covering the same character so they're not all clustered at the beginning or end.
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Good idea.
It might be worth holding off on presenting the project so far for a little while longer, as we may have several new recruits joining in the very near future. That would allow us to insert their introductions along with everyone else's.
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As long as everyone tells me anything that needs to be considered when writing the scene (i.e. whatever the deal with Sigma is, I haven't been keeping up with that very well) so I don't overlook anything, I can probably write the Toma scene. But if we're going to re-order things, then I'll probably want to write a couple more scenes that would also be placed early on along with it. I figure at first glance that I'll be writing the Toma scene from ZEAL's point of view, have a brief mention of them observing the original timeline, and then go through the whole interference. Any problems or suggestions, let me know. I've got exams all this week--early dismissal--and therefore plenty of time to work on it.
Also, while I'm fairly sure Garg is at no point going to be involved in any key skirmish--especially against anyway of magic ability--and stand his ground for two seconds, I don't think he should be considered "weak." Unless, of course, Tier One includes Toma, in which case I would be fine with labelling Garg in the same manner. Comments?
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Just read Sigma's bio for a summary of what happened to her. Feel free to elaborate as you wish.
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Ah, well that's not too much, then. I'll get to work. Elaboration considered.
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Dot
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Waiting on Symmetry. He disappeared.
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Sorry, everyone.
I've had a complete creative meltdown as of late. This semester has been absolutely hell.
It would definately be a shame if all of this went to waste, though. Is anyone else still interested, or has the time for this project come and gone?
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Hah, you mention failure and lack of interest in the halls of the Compendium! Barring Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes, the opposite is the case. Just like the old roll calls, we can rouse people up if we wish, and once the new site is unleashed, our popularity can only increase and bring in new authors. It's always there.
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I for one am still interested, and will be here to help.
Actually, I'm currently working on a walkthrough of ZEAL palace, which should be helpful.
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Ready and waiting. I don't want this project to die.
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Oh... f**k.
Reaffirm some things for my Toma post(s):
The temporal experiments are being undertaken at the Centre by the elite of the School of Temporal Magic, overseen by the Council, correct?
How would the ZEALian agents refer to Keystone?
(Minor details:) What time of year is it in ZEAL (i.e. early or late), and how long has the project been running? Want to make a few cultural references in the ZEALian point of view.
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Zeality or Symmetry can correct me, but so far as I understand it:
Almost. I don't think that it was the School actually doing the experiments, but several of the "best of the best" from said School.
Probably something similar to "Timeline 75-AP7J-K" or some such. No name, just a call number.
My guess would be around 1025 AD or so (to use Keystone years). Zeal and Sym would know better.
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Most of the plot events in Keystone (so far) happened in 1021 AD, but you don't really have to match that. I believe the ZEALian calendar starts at 0 being 12,000 BC by the Keystone calendar. So, I'd probably put the ZEALian date at something like 13025 plus some abbreviation to mark the current era. A few suggestions:
CE - Common Era
ME - Modern Era
MA - Modern Age
NA - New Age
ZC - ZEALian Calendar
ZR - ZEALian Reckoning
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Of course, it could be devided into several different ages. This could be, say, the 1475th year of the Second Age of Zeal, reckoning from the last major event (meteor strike, closing of the Ocean Palace, last war, or possibly when they discovered the secrets of incredibly long life.)
As for those abbreviations, my vote's for ZR
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Er... I asked what time of year and how long the project's been running (equivalency). I could care less about the actual year. Good thing to establish, though. I particularly like ME, for having the "feel" of being a method of denoting time, and ZC for being cool.
And elite is the "best of the best," is it not? :D
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Ah, I thought it had said "the elite School," not "the elite of the School." My bad.
And as for the time of year, I have no idea, and the program has been running for several years, but probably not much over a century. I'd say 70 years or so.
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Oh yeah, I'm still here...I actually have to make some minor changes to the parts I've already written, mainly just what one of my characters (I think it was Hunter) looks like. I kept trying to draw him as I described and it just never worked out how I wanted, so I made him look different and there are some very slight Crono-throwbacks (bandanas baby!).
Mainly I'd be able to write during the week, but only able to upload my writings probably on the weekends at a friend's house. My comp is still dead and the laptop i'm using isn't the best for online right now...
Still very interested. Although, damn if I'm pissed that I can't work on my Magness story which segways (sp? does that look wrong?) into this somewhat...
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I'm here. And ready to go, incidentally.
Whenever the rest of the gang arrives...
~.C.S.~
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The timeline should be A18, now that I think about it. The one they just destroyed was A17. The project is relatively new, so they shouldn't be on like their hundredth timeline.
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When was it esatablished that the last one they destroyed was A17? Or have I just been really bad and didn't read the posts as closely as I should have?
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Well, you missed it because I called the Frozen Flame of the last timeline in Roget's post "Flame A17." I surmised the timeline would be known as that also.
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Very possible. However, who says that a Flame is going to be present in each timeline? It is entirely possible that in timelines without Lavoses... Lavi... In a timeline without a Lavos, there might not be a Flame.
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So far, I think they've found one in every timeline.
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*shrugs* Alright, then. Just wanted to make the point that it isn't neccessarily a requirement.
And how do you pluralize Lavos, anyway?
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Well, it could be a prerequisite. Having Lavos erupt is the easiest way to dispose of a timeline; I wrote that when they're through conducting research, they instruct the Frozen Flame (sort of like an Arbiter) to cause Lavos to erupt in prehistoric times, and torch life.
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*shrugs* Alright, then. Just wanted to make the point that it isn't neccessarily a requirement.
And how do you pluralize Lavos, anyway?
I'd go with either the "deer" method (don't change it for the plural), or "Lavoids."
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I'm beginning on the second part of my Toma installment (may be divided into two (ZEAL POV and POV inside the Claw), since it's so long). Did we plan on cloning the Introduction thread and rearranging the current posts chronologically as well as putting these in their proper place or just sliding them in at the beginning of the first subplot in retrospect (in retrospect because these are prior to scenes already published for both Sigma and Garg)?
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I think we agreed that we'll do some rearranging once all the posts are in.
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So, wait, would A17 then be the alternate dimension in Magness? I remember we were talking about that dimension as being one of the ones Zeal was messing with and how that would be an easy way to do it...I just wanted to know because when I get to the chapters in Magness where they transfer, I might see about writing a part from Zeal talking about that or something...
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That's interesting. V, it's still sad that ZEAL results in the total trashing of the dimension in which your fic takes place.
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Yeah, but, it's only part of it...Magus/Gil eventually makes it back to Keystone...
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For anyone who has a character actually in Zeal, I wrote up a walkthrough program for the Palace itself.
It's a simple text-based executable, descriptions of each room. Feel free to take a look, if ya want. My favorite is the Conservatory, personally, which is in the very back, off of the Ballroom Balcony.
http://cc.herograw.com/Black/Aitrus/zeal.exe
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So, what exactly are we waiting for?