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News and Updates => Site Updates => Topic started by: ZeaLitY on October 07, 2009, 08:21:22 pm

Title: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 07, 2009, 08:21:22 pm
Well, finally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuYyGT1FzRo&fmt=18)! This stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KWUf5X-R4U&fmt=18) should have (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3y-bq00LYU&fmt=18) been done (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL3ow3mleyk&fmt=18) eons ago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks3Okseizv8&fmt=18), but at (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjovDP4GvT4&fmt=18) last, the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-sOnc08sA&fmt=18) analysis review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtIDAtSVIQ&fmt=18) is finished (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6xru-HU_jM&fmt=18) and the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p30v604BY40&fmt=18) Chrono Trigger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebgeRfRg_zA&fmt=18) DS content (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUjDrfUXHvM&fmt=18) and analysis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUKWj_vurQE&fmt=18) has been (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOgWtH6WB7o&fmt=18) added to (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUKWj_vurQE&fmt=18) the encyclopedia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqM-ef-NcF8&fmt=18) properly. SO GET FIRED UP YOU BASTARDS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3NfE7cNKoA&fmt=18)!! The Compendium's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U-uLeuKQJA&fmt=18) recovered from (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98NEll1E1b0&fmt=18) the troublesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3NfE7cNKoA&fmt=18) times and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34AG_mR9feE&fmt=18) is ready (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YM3ItVAL7A&fmt=18) to enter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI15eWz8Wec&fmt=18) the next (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXaiwwD_y7w&fmt=18) phase. Google (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nPjFkFEAl4&fmt=18) trends results (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYzgCI6Q1I&fmt=18) show that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIoz1bpzHWk&fmt=18) searches for (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2vpqd9gKXk&fmt=18) Chrono Trigger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-r3If2zwEA&fmt=18) and Chrono (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyxX3tNkodY&fmt=18) Cross are (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA4P1A3jtu0&fmt=18) both in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC-0-JRE8yk&fmt=18) decline, and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYA6CQ_E_k&fmt=18) are almost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAlztMvvNkk&fmt=18) hitting the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABPI84u3qdo&fmt=18) valley decline (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=minOlGpOVMA&fmt=18) they had (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxMhtA2Putc&fmt=18) reached before (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkcN4N-UbKU&fmt=18) Chrono Trigger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiy-TOxarTo&fmt=18) DS was (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyPT7b6ngmg&fmt=18) announced. But (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4NFvR4TeHM&fmt=18) the Compendium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwx0ZQyTkwA&fmt=18) will continue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhVgSI77ygE&fmt=18)! Past the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXvBmkJft9Q&fmt=18) break you'll (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyc37aOqT0&fmt=18) find our (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJcTkBMyxs&fmt=18) new event (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIinzNVEF08&fmt=18) schedule and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhol_lJiDhY&fmt=18) more information (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdUvndXqTFg&fmt=18). And we've (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg533zKA3YY&fmt=18) got Chrono (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LK01R-sCNg&fmt=18) Cross's 10th (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvF0MaFldI&fmt=18) birthday coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPi543zFVk&fmt=18) up in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WfrPX9-xgA&fmt=18) November (for (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx2ye-6geIk&fmt=18) the Japanese (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpxi5asagE4&fmt=18) release, of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS77UgB3A0U&fmt=18) course!) and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Hx--kvqkg&fmt=18) I'll try (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bLzzQfTS68&fmt=18) to get (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a9__4uTe_A&fmt=18) Cross on (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUzJZvgi5HU) Wikipedia's main (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYF0jHdhSPM&fmt=18) page to (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHFX19o5Kfc&fmt=18) commemorate. SO LET'S GET STARTED (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0f12pUyzfY&fmt=18)

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First, let's clear up how the collaborative events will go from now on.  [EVENTS]  [March, April, May] - Spring's Gift - Fan art contest! The winner is the Artist of Termina. [June, July, August] - Dream Splash! Summer's Cry - A site-wide creative celebration focused on a single, expansive theme! [September, October, November] - Autumn's Fate - Remixing contest! Since the Chrono catalogue is so heavily remixed, more points go to more obscure source songs! Winner is the Bard of Regiorra. [December, January, February] - Winter's Fragments - Fanfiction contest! Entries are judged on quality, theme, and closeness to recreating the Chrono feel. We take full advantage of the holiday season to compose works here. Winner will be the Poet of El Nido. And there we go!  [BOUNTY SYSTEM]  Check out the Great To-Do List (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/board,88.0.html) forum, and you'll see that a bounty system has been launched to incentivize contributions. It's not much, and it probably won't help a great deal either, but there you go!

Second, let's get some site things out of the way!  [1]  CT DS stuff is totally added to the encyclopedia, along with analysis from the CT DS forum review. Pages updated from the forum and analysis review include: Magus (Guilde identity) (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Magus_(Guile_identity).html), Fates of the Chrono Trigger Team (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Fates_of_the_Chrono_Trigger_Team.html) (overwhelming force note), Chrono Trigger DS Canonicity (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Trigger_DS_Canonicity.html)  [2]  Until we get a full dump of all the DS scripts and assemble it into a spreadsheet, you can use these dumps for finding things: NA (English, French) (http://chronofan.com/Black/Publications/CTDS-USDump.zip) - JP (English, Japanese) (http://chronofan.com/Black/Publications/CTDS-JPDump.zip) ]  [3]  utunnels recently found an interesting Japanese Chrono Trigger site with very detailed maps; check it out here (http://omoteura.com/chrono_trigger/index.php?%A5%C0%A5%F3%A5%B8%A5%E7%A5%F3%A5%C7%A1%BC%A5%BF%A1%A6%A5%A2%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C9%A1%BC%A5%E0%C3%CF%B2%BC).  [4]  I left a ton of links up there to music that helped me update the site, so have fun!

Now, some project news!  [1]  TheMage has found a new RPGMakerXP project named Chrono Break. Check it out at its thread headquarters here (http://www.hbgames.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=67327).  [2]  GenesisOne's awesome Chrono Trigger pinball project has entered the next stage; he's drawn up schematics for it. Check them out here (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,7890.15.html).

Time at last for fan stuff!  [FICTION]  The fantastic Chrono Helix (http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,7760.75.html) has been updated; check it out! [ART]  We begin with a rare gift from The Princess: Don't lick!! For ears! Ayla go away and please don't, come back and please :( (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/a/af/Aylachrono.png). pandor has a ton of new pictures depicting her latest figure works. Check out the Radical Dreamers! [ Frog: 1 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/e/e7/Ctupdate008.jpg) - 2 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/c/c8/Ctupdate009.jpg) - 3 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/a/ab/Ctupdate005.jpg) - 4 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/2/2b/Ctupdate011.jpg) | Crono: 1 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/c/c3/Crono001.jpg) - 2 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/8/80/Crono005.jpg) - 3 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/8/87/Crono007.jpg) - 4 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/9/9b/Crono012.jpg) - 5 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/e/ec/Ctupdate046.jpg) | Magil: 1 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/3/38/Ctupdate012.jpg) - 2 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/c/cc/Ctupdate014.jpg) - 3 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/f/f9/Ctupdate015.jpg) - 4 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/a/af/Ctupdate021.jpg) - 5 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/b/b3/Ctupdate031.jpg) | Group: 1 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/3/36/Ctupdate029.jpg) - 2 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/2/20/Ctupdate036.jpg) - 3 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/1/1e/Ctupdate040.jpg) - 4 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/5/51/Ctupdate042.jpg) - 5 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/d/d1/Ctupdate044.jpg) - 6 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/b/bd/Ctupdate050.jpg) - 7 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/7/71/Ctupdate052.jpg) - 8 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/5/53/Ctupdate060.jpg) | Radical Dreamers Serge: 1 (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/a/a5/Ctupdate057.jpg) ] Next is GenesisOne with Lucca AWESUM!! (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/3/30/Lucca_Awesum.JPG). Continuing the Chrono Panda phenomenon is ONSLAUGHT with [ Come On (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/thumb/b/b6/Comeon.jpg/460px-Comeon.jpg) - Marle Panda (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/5/50/Marleview.jpg) - Pandourer (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/0/0b/Pandourer.jpg) - Crono Battle (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/f/f9/Cronobattle.jpg) - Crono Panda's Birthday Cake (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/7/78/Crono_Panda%27s_Birthday_Cake.JPG) (by GenesisOne) ] Uboa continues her Magus designs with this new sketch (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/9/96/Uboacc6.jpg). Mysticalpha rounds things out with another great comic; this one's called Skins (http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/7/7e/Skins_by_mysticalpha.jpg).

PUUUUULAAAAAAAASUUUUUUUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg533zKA3YY&fmt=18)
Title: Re: The Compendium is Complete
Post by: KebreI on October 07, 2009, 08:32:28 pm
THIS IS THE ZETTA HOT POWER OF YOUTH!!1!

Title: Re: The Compendium is Complete
Post by: ZombieBucky on October 07, 2009, 08:36:13 pm
HELL YES MY FRIEND.
HELL YES.
 :bell
Title: Re: The Compendium is Complete
Post by: FaustWolf on October 07, 2009, 08:37:25 pm
WHOOOAAA, the Compendium has reached critical mass! The universe is starting to get sucked in...!!
Title: Re: The Compendium is Complete
Post by: Romana on October 07, 2009, 08:53:04 pm
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Title: Re: The Compendium is Complete
Post by: Sajainta on October 07, 2009, 08:56:35 pm
Fan-fucking-tabulous.  :D

I've been looking through the To-Do list, seeing if there's anything I can do.  I will try, to the best of my ability.
Title: Re: The Compendium is Complete
Post by: Lord J Esq on October 07, 2009, 09:07:11 pm
Holy moly! That post is almost more links than not! Well done, Springtime of Youth Brigades, and well-done :grimm.
Title: Re: The Compendium is Complete
Post by: ONSLAUGHT on October 07, 2009, 10:03:01 pm
The To Do List, I shall often visit, and I'll also handle things that aren't even on it and aren't necessary. It's all in the name of Chrono afterall! I'M FROM BARBADOS I KICK THIS STUFF'S ASS!
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: radicalblues on October 08, 2009, 08:23:40 am
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Magus_(Guile_identity).html

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At the end of Chrono Trigger DS, Magus erases his own identity and begins anew with the feeling he must search for something.

Objection. The Dream Devourer is the one who devours his memories. Magus simply gets pwned and while dream devourer is going OM NOM NOM DELICIOUS MEMORIES I MUST EATS IT, Magus simply accepts this by saying that if that's to happen, so be it. Magus never pushes the reset button on his brain. :franky

Great work!!
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: Zephira on October 08, 2009, 10:23:26 am
I'm pretty sure Magus had the ability to escape without being eaten. Schala was trying to teleport him to safety at the end. She did rebuff him, but she still had at least a little bit of sympathy left for her baby brother. He just decided to let his memories be eaten, since he had no other reason to keep living.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: tushantin on October 08, 2009, 04:26:50 pm
D= Dang you forgot my artwork again... Jah nevermind you've been hella busy these days.  :lol:

Helluva nice updates! Those new CTDS info look pretty intriguing.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: ZeaLitY on October 08, 2009, 04:56:24 pm
D= Dang you forgot my artwork again... Jah nevermind you've been hella busy these days.  :lol:

Helluva nice updates! Those new CTDS info look pretty intriguing.

Ah, sorry, but we usually avoid posting any art with that massive DeviantArt watermark all over it. It kind of destroys the ability of the art to be appreciated.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: tushantin on October 08, 2009, 05:45:18 pm
Ah, no problem then, and sorry about that. Once I release the project officially, I'll hand over all the artworks, cutscenes and sprites to the Compendium. Nowhere else would be safer.  :lee:

Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: radicalblues on October 08, 2009, 08:24:43 pm
I'm pretty sure Magus had the ability to escape without being eaten [...]

Doesn't change the fact that the Dream Devourer did it, not Magus. =X
I think that Magus simply surrendered. But only because he knew that by surrendering at that battle, be might have a chance of winning the war.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: Zephira on October 08, 2009, 08:28:24 pm
Technically, Magus used the Dream Devourer to erase his identity. It was still his own intent. He didn't so much surrender as he did just throw himself at the beast. It's like the difference between getting run over by a truck because you couldn't cross the street in time, and throwing yourself in front of a truck because you want to be run over.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: FaustWolf on October 08, 2009, 08:45:23 pm
Hmmm! That's an interesting take on what happened. All this time I figured Magus had the ability to destroy his own memory; provided that the physical structure of the brain is what stores memory, I figured earlier that wiping his memories couldn't be any more difficult than making his ears pointy.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: Zephira on October 08, 2009, 09:04:44 pm
Taking liberties, you could say that there is some spell to wipe memories, just like there's one to change a human into a frog. It might not be the physical structure of the brain so much as proteins or electrical impulses in the brain (I have not studied this in depth and I have no sources), though magic seems like it would influence matter and energy on a molecular level. Assuming some mutation allows mages/wizards to control elements and atoms like that, it's very possible that an unskilled magician could accidentally screw up his own mind (scientist handling radioactive materials screws up and exposes himself to radiation; untrained demolition worker wires a bomb wrong and blows himself up).

And now we're just getting off topic. Maybe this should go into Analysis :lol:
GREAT JOB Z!
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: radicalblues on October 10, 2009, 07:59:01 am
Technically, Magus used the Dream Devourer to erase his identity. It was still his own intent. He didn't so much surrender as he did just throw himself at the beast. It's like the difference between getting run over by a truck because you couldn't cross the street in time, and throwing yourself in front of a truck because you want to be run over.

Magus wasn't getting in front of the truck with the intention to get run over, he was "OH YEAH MOTHERFUCKING TRUCK I'M GONNA KICK YOUR ASS", and then he realized he was powerless, so he just ended saying "OH K PWNED =/, NEXT TIME I'LL GET YOU, FUCKING TRUCK."

He clearly didn't realize he was powerless until Schala told him, I'm sure that had it been Magus' choice, he would have gotten Schala outta there and killed Lavos.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: Zephira on October 10, 2009, 02:46:24 pm
You missed the part where Schala tried to teleport him to safety. I guess I'll have to play it again to get the exact details, but I know that Schala tried to send him away without his getting hurt.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: radicalblues on October 14, 2009, 07:08:11 pm
Hmm true =x that does make me doubt...

*watches cutscene again*

Eclipse Magus: A new foe has arisen here, in this endless expanse that is Time's Eclipse. It feasts upon thoughts, dreams, and memories. Do not think to meddle here. This enemy is my affair.

This line makes me think that Magus was trying to fight a memory-eating monster. The result to lose a fight against a memory-eating monster is, well...

Schala did seem to teleport him back to safety, and Magus could have very well erased his own memories... but there's no hint to a memory-deleting spell, while there is a hint for a memory-eating monster which Magus was just in front of =X even if said monster was still good enough to just let him go away.
Title: Re: The Compendium Is Complete
Post by: Lorenz on November 21, 2009, 01:22:24 am
How fitting that this debate is being carried on by someone with a Glenn picture arguing that Magus got stomped and someone with a Magus picture arguing that everything went according to ol' Janus' plan.   :P